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#rockbox log for 2012-11-06

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00:37:57JdGordon[Saint]: ping
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01:02:20pamaurydamn, the sony upgrade procedure is borked: if the script returns !=0 then it won't clear the upgrade flag and restart and thus...try to upgrade again !
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05:08:26JdGordon[Saint]: is there any way I can nudge you toward the %xd(A, %xx) bitmap strip code instead of the long conditionals?
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06:29:34[Saint]I *really* don't like that method, but...if I must.
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09:06:00*wodz asks for tests of g#348
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09:15:32[Saint]g348
09:15:35fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #348 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/348 : imageviewer: gif viewer based on giflib-5.0.2 by Marcin Bukat (changes/48/348/1)
09:15:45[Saint]:)
09:17:46JdGordonwodz: did you see my reply to your comment?
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09:23:20wodzJdGordon: yes, but this doesn't convince me at all
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10:45:47kugelpamaury (logs): linux framebuffer device
10:46:17kugelit's dead simple since you can mmap() then memcpy() from our framebuffer
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10:58:35kugelpamaury: ^
10:59:37pamauryah cool, I guess it's the same here. Except that I bricked the device, will be a pain to fix, stupid Sony
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11:02:30pamauryhey funny, sony released the gcc cross compiler for the devices, I'm not sure it's released needed but that can be helpful
11:03:32kugelyou might just reuse the display (and perhaps other drives like alsa), it's pretty generic apart from the device file
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12:37:03andyc101Anyone here?
12:37:38andyc101I have a h320 not booting
12:38:15andyc101Did have rock box sometime ago but when booting it shows no evidence of it
12:39:05andyc101I think I have bricked it bit I'm confused how
12:39:46andyc101Boots to original firmware
12:40:06andyc101Ver 1.29 E loading ...
12:40:13andyc101Hdd spins up
12:40:25andyc101Head reads something briefly.
12:40:59andyc101Then it parks. Remains spinning yet on loading screen for eternity. Until reset
12:41:06andyc101Does not mount
12:41:39wodzwhat you mean boots to original firmware?
12:41:46andyc101The last thing I did(my fault) was to attempt to format to Wbfs
12:41:59andyc101Attempts to boot original firmware.
12:42:14andyc101Constantly on loading.
12:42:26wodzbut does it show any evidence of rockbox bootloader?
12:42:31andyc101No
12:42:45andyc101Can I force it to boot to USB loader?
12:42:58wodzthere is no usbloader for this device
12:43:19wodzit uses hardware usb<->ata bridge
12:43:34andyc101It doesn't mount
12:43:40andyc101What do?
12:43:50wodzthe bridge needs to be setup
12:43:58andyc101Go on...
12:44:08wodzI mean bootloader/firmware/rockbox should do it for you
12:44:29andyc101How do I get it took mount?
12:44:37andyc101To*
12:44:51andyc101Thanks for responding by the way
12:45:03wodzdoes it shows up as a device? If you f*** up partition table/filesystem it will not mount anyway
12:46:03andyc101No not recognised as USB device. I'll have to double check though.
12:46:36wodzwhats on the device's screen when you plug the cable?
12:46:47andyc101I fear the table is screwed. I tried to format as WBFS (wii file system)
12:47:48andyc101I river splash screen then VER 1.29 E start
12:48:07andyc101Then VER 1.29 E Loading...
12:48:20wodzhave you tried to plug usb cable into turned off device?
12:48:26andyc101Yup
12:48:33andyc101Many times
12:49:19andyc101I once tried mounting it directly connected to a CF Connection
12:49:27andyc101Did not mount
12:49:46andyc101Head lifts reads (something) then parks.
12:50:16andyc101If firmware is good it should still be seen as a device right?
12:50:56wodzok. AFAIK you did not installed rb bootloader or you have performed OF firmware upgrade which overwrites rb bootloader. Then you f*** up the partition table and/or filesystem on disk which confuses OF.
12:51:30wodzOr disk is dead
12:52:21andyc101Afaik?
12:52:53andyc101Of =os?
12:53:14wodzAFAIK = as far as I know, OF= Original Firmware
12:53:24andyc101;)
12:54:17andyc101Would this issue arise if I simply upgrade firmware after rockbox install?
12:55:06wodzyes
12:55:18andyc101I fairly sure now there is no RB on the device. It's doesn't boot Any sign of it
12:55:56andyc101Ok. So assuming its not detected. How can I get it booting?
12:56:45wodzripp off the drive and use appropriate converter to connect it stright into PC
12:57:08andyc101Format as FAT32
12:57:12wodzyes
12:57:20andyc101Does it use CF?
12:57:30wodzno it is 1.8" PATA drive
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12:58:10andyc101So a 1.8 pata cable.
12:58:19andyc101To USB?
12:58:36andyc101Is that a posability?
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13:00:15wodzI doubt you'll find 1.8" pata -> USB converter. But you will find 1.8" pata -> regular PATA cheaply. Then you'll need old fashioned PC with regular pata socket.
13:05:39andyc101http://www.byteccusa.com/product/adapter/BT-194/BT-194.htm. Non price!
13:06:53wodzthis will not work - it is for 1.8" ZIF
13:07:23wodzhmm, maybe not - the description is confusing
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13:10:00andyc101eBay item Item #:250735785693
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13:10:21andyc101I have a pc I can hook up a sata to
13:10:44andyc101If rather avoid it if I can find an adapter on the cheap
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13:14:53wodzthis one is for ZIF as well
13:15:28andyc101The one i posted?
13:15:31wodzyes
13:15:54andyc1011st one?
13:15:58wodzthe plug on the photo is CF part, the ribbon cable is for ZIF connector in disk
13:16:11wodzthe one from ebay
13:20:31andyc101eBay item
13:21:20andyc101Confusing. The larger image shows s comparison to a hdd. The hdd inside the iriver already has that.
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13:22:44andyc101The zif is a thin ribbon connection right? Whilst the 1.8 pata is like a miniature 3,5 pata.
13:24:57andyc101Thanks for all
13:25:04andyc101Your help.
13:25:17andyc101I'm knackered. Time for bed.
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15:26:53kugelpamaury: managed to unbrick it?
15:31:55pamaurydidn't have the time, I'm at my lab and I'm very very tired so I'll go to sleep asap. But I know how to unbrick it so it's only a matter of a few hours
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17:12:24amayeris the image that is showing durring boot compiled info the firmware or is that something that can be swapped out?
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17:54:19amayeri found it after some more googleing. thanks
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18:59:12amayerdid we remove the spam filter from the forums?
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19:11:29Tornenope.
19:11:40Tornethis is just hte spam that gets through :)
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21:08:38A_flying_wolfHello, can anybody help me?, i think i bricked a iAudio M3, installed the bootloader but forgate to install the fw files, its now booting and turning off and if i connect it to usb it hangs and windows & arch linux doesnt recognize the device
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21:12:07gevaertsA_flying_wolf: you'll want to talk to amiconn I suspect
21:12:13gevaertsNot many people have an M3
21:12:31A_flying_wolfOhlol, is this mp3 player so rare?
21:12:37A_flying_wolf(or just old :P)
21:12:52amiconnThe M3 is nearly unbrickable
21:13:30A_flying_wolf:o, that sounds nice
21:13:31amiconnThe cowon loader in flash is never overwritten.
21:14:27amiconnIf something is missing, just power down, the connect usb and power on. It should connect to usb, unless the battery is really low
21:14:39A_flying_wolfHmm, okay
21:14:40amiconnIn the latter case, just retry, but also connect the charger
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21:14:51A_flying_wolfOkay
21:15:37A_flying_wolfI don't think that the battery level is high, it only charged for 40 minutes after i found it after 2 years :P
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21:15:51amiconnOnce you have usb disk access that way, you can start repairing things
21:16:01A_flying_wolfSo i think its a good idea to let it charge for a few minutes?
21:16:11amiconnThat might indeed be a good idea
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21:17:20A_flying_wolf(if i connect charger the hdd light jumps to green and mode light to white, charge light stays off and device doesnt respond to button presses, is that good?)
21:17:25amiconnAnd yes, the M3 is both old and relatively rare. The X5 is the most widespread of the coldifre iaudio series (M3, M5 and X5)
21:18:11amiconnThis is probably because of the missing firmware. The M3's cowon loader is a bit less clever than that of the M5/X5
21:18:30A_flying_wolfOkay, but it does charge now?
21:18:40A_flying_wolf(i hope, i guess i'll find out)
21:19:17amiconnPower off again (disconnect everything, then press the pinhole reset button to make sure
21:19:37amiconnConnect usb, and after that connect the charger
21:21:04amiconnIf all 3 leds are on, you can get it to charge more quickly by ejecting usb (safely remove), and then disconnecting it, but leaving the charger connected
21:21:50A_flying_wolfOkay, now again the HDD and MODE lights are on but charge off, but with usb if i disconnect it stays on(with charger it goes off when disconnecting)
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21:23:29amiconnIf you use the sequence I told you, only the charging led and the lcd stay on
21:24:10amiconnIf the charging led is not on, the M3 does not charge
21:24:17A_flying_wolfokay
21:24:45*amiconn just fetched his M3 from the drawer - battery completely flat
21:25:34A_flying_wolfI insert usb, HDD and MODE light jumps on and windows doesnt recognize anything, plugged charger in while usb was plugged in, no change
21:26:17amiconnHmm, charging light does not light up?
21:26:30A_flying_wolfNope
21:26:42A_flying_wolfIt did when i had the orginal cowon bootloader & firmware
21:26:44amiconnThen either the battery is full, charging circuit is broken, or cowon loader does something I didn't observe so far
21:26:57amiconnDoes the lcd show anything?
21:27:13A_flying_wolf(problem: the lcd is defunct :( )
21:27:40A_flying_wolfI hoped with rockbox and voice guided menus i could this device as a backup mp3 player
21:28:01A_flying_wolfI hoped with rockbox and voice guided menus i could use this device as a backup mp3 player*
21:29:23amiconnHmm, I have no idea what's happening then. Even when there's no firmware in flash (be it original firmware or rockbox bootloader), the cowon loader should handle basic usb and charging
21:30:10amiconnIt's also responsible for actually flashing the firmware, so you can always recover that way, provided the cowon loader is working. It won't overwrite itself in the flashing process either
21:31:00A_flying_wolf:(, i'll try some things :P
21:31:09amiconnSo if it's not a hardware problem, the cowon loader got broken somehow. Unfortunately I have no idea how to analyze this without even a working display
21:32:08amiconnBtw, rockbox doesn't handle charging on the M3 properly yet
21:32:20A_flying_wolfOoh...
21:32:35amiconnYou can use the (somewhat cumbersome) method I described, using the cowon loader
21:32:53*amiconn really should get around to finishing some old stuff like that
21:36:08A_flying_wolf(btw, if i boot it without any peripherals the hdd spins up and only the MODE light lights up for 2 seconds, then its turning off)
21:36:29A_flying_wolfAnd the cowon loader seems to crash at usb connect :/
21:37:46amiconnHmm, this may be your battery being really low then. So connect usb, then the charger, and leave it that way for a minute or two
21:38:05A_flying_wolfOkay
21:38:17amiconn(i.e. both things connected)
21:40:44*A_flying_wolf is back in 10-20 mins
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22:17:05A_flying_wolfOkay, the M3 shows up under my devices again!, but after a while i get the message This device cannot start(code 10) win7 x64
22:17:23A_flying_wolfAnd the mass storage is never read :/
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22:19:35n1sdoesn't the iaudios have some kind of usb mode we don't touch that Should Just Work?
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22:20:21A_flying_wolfNot that i found one, google didn't give info too
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22:22:53n1sso what does dmesg say when you connect it?
22:23:14n1samiconn: is the iaudio expert so perhaps he know some tricks?
22:23:23A_flying_wolfIm trying to figure out, but the keyboard of my eeepc works half
22:23:32A_flying_wolfAnd amiconn is already helping me :P
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22:26:43*A_flying_wolf hooks up a usb kb
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22:33:30A_flying_wolfidVendor=0e21, idProduct=0500 Mfr=73 Product=93 Serialnumber=124
22:33:49A_flying_wolfProduct: iAUDIO ...
22:33:53A_flying_wolfOh i see something now
22:34:13A_flying_wolfKernel resets usb device a few times
22:34:41A_flying_wolfscsi 3:0:0:0: > Device offline - not ready after error recovery
22:34:46A_flying_wolfscsi 3:0:0:0: > Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
22:34:58A_flying_wolfUSB disconnect, device number 2
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22:39:48*A_flying_wolf shouts at his iAudio M3
22:44:35A_flying_wolfI pulled out the HDD and it is now in USB transfer mode o.O
22:44:50A_flying_wolfLets see if it likes hotswapping
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22:45:48A_flying_wolfIT does charge normal now
22:46:05A_flying_wolfNow lets see if i can get a usb connection
22:46:11n1smaybe the battery was too low so it couldn't spin up?
22:46:24A_flying_wolfThe hdd was spinning up :P
22:46:49A_flying_wolfYAY
22:46:56A_flying_wolfMounted it :P
22:47:19A_flying_wolfInstalled rockbox back
22:48:04A_flying_wolfIts functioning now :D
22:48:10n1scongratulations
22:48:50A_flying_wolfg2g now :3
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22:49:53A_flying_wolfBrave BNC :3
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