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#rockbox log for 2012-12-20

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08:57:34megal0maniacWhat are the methods generally used to debug rockbox during runtime on a device?
08:57:45megal0maniacOr does it depend on the device?
08:58:28megal0maniacI'm making it my mission to fix rockdoom on the Fuze+ :)
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10:39:51lorenzo92megalOmaniac: well if I'm right there is around a new logf implementation that creates a log file on the disk of your device, not sure how to use it / enable it tough. In other cases you might use the display messages :D
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10:56:12wodzAFAIK new logging API is not available for plugins (yet). You would need to hack pugin.h and friends.
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11:53:43lorenzo92pamaury: after finishing UART code (I want to write down a .c/.h to be also used with your imx233 in case...) I want to implement backlight in order to see something on screen ;)
11:54:16lorenzo92pamaury: I will give the uart code for committing since my current workspace is pretty dirty xD
11:57:28lorenzo92*you
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13:23:26pamaurylorenzo92: did you see my comment about the HW_DIGCTL_MICROSECONDS register ?
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13:46:30GeekShadowhello
13:46:53GeekShadowI didn't really follow latest development, is Meizu M3 support progressed ?
13:56:15AlexPNo
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14:42:16pamaurymegal0maniac: what is the problem with rockdoom on the fuze+ ?
14:42:33pamaurygevaerts: ping
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14:49:05pamauryLorenzo92: ping
14:49:16Lorenzo92pamaury: yes! Now I'm not home but I will fix that
14:49:39pamauryperfect, it explains why udelay() doesn't work. It doesn't fix usb most probably though
14:49:51Lorenzo92In the meanwhile I also enable RX for UART and simple loopback works
14:50:19Lorenzo92*enabled
14:50:54pamauryi'm quite interested in your uart code, I have another device (insignia infocast) which has the uart pin accessible so I can check that it works correctly on imx233. Is it uartapp or uartdbg ?
14:51:27Lorenzo92uartdbg
14:52:09pamauryperfect
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15:00:37Lorenzo92I will also try to enable backlight...you told me you have some code to test for the display right?
15:02:49pamauryah yes, wait a minute
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15:06:34pamauryLorenzo92: see pm
15:06:44pamauryas you will see, it's quite a mess, you will need to change many things to make this work
15:07:04pamauryhere are a few thought on what you should absolutely change
15:07:33pamaury- VERY IMPORTANT: fix sdram address (or put everything in iram if it fits). On stmp36xx, I think sdram is at 0x60000000
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15:08:34pamaury- VERY IMPORTANT: fix sb file generation, based on the updater.sb of the yp-z5, you should init the sdram first (see the -sdram switch of elftosb1) and run any "small stub" that the updater load before the main code, if any
15:08:50pamaury- VERY IMPORTANT: fix registers (again)
15:10:21pamaury- in main, comment everything and check step by step that it works, currently it initialises a lot of things for the imx233
15:10:37pamaury- pay special attention to the clock registers
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15:10:53pamaury- the lcdif architecture is different (use apbh/x dma instead of dedicated dma)
15:12:06pamaury- I advise you to remove all the #ifdef code which, as you can see, handles many devices (fuze+, zen x-fi 2/3, mwz, insignia)
15:13:04pamauryIf you just want to test backlight, copy the code from this to hwemul (and fix/check pwm first)
15:13:21pamauryyou might need to do some reverse engineering to find out how backlight works on the yp-z5
15:14:15Lorenzo92Yes i will have a look at bootloader....
15:14:56pamauryby the way, I completely forgot to tell you something about usb recovery mode, a useful hack
15:18:00pamaurywhen the hardware boots in recovery mode, it initialises usb and (on imx233), it has two endpoints: one bulk and one interrupt. What hwemul does is that it disconnect usb, init everything again and connect. But nothing prevents you from staying connecting and (beware hack) use the already initialised endpoints. This is much simpler than having a complete USB stack and reduces the probably of doing something wrong at the beginning
15:18:26pamauryI will send you another tool which does that (and many other things)
15:18:49pamauryit's very similar to hwemul (in fact you could call it its predecessor in a way)
15:19:31Lorenzo92Great! Indeed I've seen similarities also with UART that for some reason is already initialized!
15:20:29pamauryone feature that recovery_util (see pm) has over hwemul is that the running code already handles things like i2c, sd/mmc, otp, pinctl. It's much higher level if you can fix it for stmp36xx
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16:50:15lorenzo92pamaury: udelay fixed ;) I indeed need to carefully check all the registers
16:51:02pamaurythat's also the point of building a register map: automatically check the differences (I already have it for the stmp3700 vs stmp3780)
16:52:25lorenzo92indeed
16:52:45lorenzo92which is the output format? I could write down some script to do the job...
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17:02:17pamaurylorenzo92: I'll do it, I already have some scripts do to that, and there are some tools in the repository also
17:02:31lorenzo92perfect :)
17:03:01pamauryactually since we have a xml description in the sdk, it could prove much easier than for the stmp3700/3780
17:03:09pamaurys/xml/strange format
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17:19:54gevaertspamaury: pong
17:21:18pamauryI have a question regarding the usb analyzer (Packet Master MQP480). Because I'm tired of using the crazy software, I've begun some work to reverse engineer its protocol. Now the question is: (where) should I document my findings ? I know it's a bit off-topic but would the rockbox wiki be a place for this ?
17:22:39gevaertshm
17:22:56gevaertsSounds reasonable, at least to get started
17:23:05*gevaerts asks for Zagor's opinion
17:23:24kugelis there anything you don't reverse engineer? :)
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17:24:53pamaurynot really :) OTOH what's the use of a 1,000€ analyzer if the software doesn't allow you to use correctly ?
17:25:22gevaertsIrrelevant! We only paid 600€ :)
17:25:33pamauryand that's part of my devil plan to rule the world by writing a super cool usb analyzer software
17:26:10Zagorpamaury, gevaerts: I agree the wiki is a good place
17:26:33Zagorunless you want to start a separate project on github or some such place
17:26:54pamaurycurrently not
17:28:02pamauryactually a nifty plan would be to reverse engineer it, poke the mqp developpers and let them correct the mistakes (they say they don't have the time to document it but perhaps they can have a look ^^)
17:28:55funmanperhaps they would give you the source code if you sign a NDA ?
17:29:52pamauryI suggest it but they said no (no time)
17:30:16pamauryoh and "no customer asked to run our analyzer on linux" :-(
17:31:58pamaurythey should have accepted, now their (poorly designed) protocol will be made public
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17:34:02funmanmaybe ask again after you complained about it in public, in case it changes their mind
17:34:47pamaurysure, I just want to reverse it a bit more, the tricky part will be about all the corner cases
17:37:14pamauryat least they answer emails, that's already something !
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21:40:39saratogabluebrother: is it ok if we mark the zip stable without having a release or does that cause problems in rbutil?
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22:28:49AlexPsaratoga: I think we normally wait for a release as otherwise it confuses people
22:29:07AlexPi.e. where is the stable release for this stable player
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22:32:29megal0maniacpamaury: I'm having buttons frequently getting stuck (spinning around in circles, unable to quit game) and the keymap is wrong when in landscape mode. Remember the keymap being an issue in mpegplayer as well, but haven't checked it out recently
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22:33:55megal0maniacWill check it out and let you know
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23:16:56lazerhello
23:21:57lazerDoes anyone knows the Problem that the IRiver320 detects the compact flash card correctly but does not answer over usb?
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23:38:17lorenzo92pamaury: okay I'm done with the uart , a second and I'll show you what I did, hope it's professional enough xD
23:41:57lorenzo92pamaury: here you are :) http://pastie.org/private/uqumaf4ftj6x5upns4nuq
23:42:27lorenzo92if you can test it also on your device, initialization should work as it should, just take care of baud rates
23:42:36lorenzo92loopback works
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