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| 00:27:23 | Belzebub | Hello |
| 00:28:29 | Belzebub | Rockbox support *.mogg files? |
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| 01:30:31 | amayer | where can i get arm-elf-eabi-gcc? |
| 01:33:52 | funman | amayer: run ./tools/rockboxdev.sh |
| 01:34:19 | amayer | do i need to be admin? |
| 01:34:24 | amayer | (root) |
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| 01:37:24 | amayer | what is the makeinfo? |
| 01:37:26 | amayer | sudo apt-get install makeinfo doesnt no package found |
| 01:39:13 | amayer | is there a wiki page to help with this? |
| 01:39:15 | amayer | i cant find anything by searching |
| 01:42:42 | funman | texinfo |
| 01:43:23 | funman | amayer: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CrossCompiler |
| 01:43:37 | amayer | funman: thanks. |
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| 02:00:47 | amayer | what is the difference between stared and watched in gerrit? |
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| 02:21:29 | funman | maybe just starring doesn't send you updates by email? |
| 02:21:49 | amayer | funman: how to do watch a change then? |
| 02:22:02 | amayer | i found out how to star it but i cant find a "watch" button anywhere |
| 02:24:09 | funman | sorry no idea |
| 02:24:29 | amayer | funman: thanks anyway |
| 02:46:39 | amayer | if i cherry pick a change for gerrit then rebase will it remove my cherry pick? |
| 02:46:42 | amayer | or will it only remove/replace it once the change is merged? |
| 02:53:45 | amayer | i guess i could just cherry pick to a seperate branch for compiling... *solves own problem* |
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| 04:38:59 | ikeboy | hello I have been having problems with my sansa fuze v2 4gb. I installed rockbox on it three days ago, it worked for about a day , and then it shut down . Now it won't respond to anything. Windows won't recognize that I even plugged anything in . can someone help |
| 04:39:33 | ikeboy | if someone can help can they please email me webmaster@trupdate.com |
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| 05:24:30 | saratoga | you need to stay in IRC for more then 45 seconds if you want help! |
| 05:26:16 | derf | Hey, he left an e-mail address! |
| 05:26:23 | derf | That's better than most drive-bys do. |
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| 05:35:46 | saratoga | Bluebrother: would it be possible to have rockbox utility check to see if a user has selected a folder where the paths "windows\system32" or "winnt\system32" exist and suggest to them that they have picked the wrong drive to install rockbox to? a lot of users seem to have trouble with this |
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| 07:30:52 | [Saint] | soap: the reason I stole VLC's setup was that it fitted in with the 60MHz/16KHz range we were already using. |
| 07:30:58 | [Saint] | I'm open to suggestion. |
| 07:31:34 | [Saint] | I was thinking about 32, 64, 125, 250, 500, 1K, 2K, 4K, 8K, 16K? |
| 07:31:49 | [Saint] | But 32MHz seemed a bit low to me. |
| 07:32:23 | [Saint] | That, and, I wouldn't know how to convert the presets I stole from VLC into these modified ranges. |
| 07:33:06 | [Saint] | (and, you're likely right, 14~16K is tightly grouped...to much so for me, but I assumed I just had "old" ears) |
| 07:34:20 | [Saint] | VLC purports to know what they're doing wrt sound/video, so I stole from them so I could easily get a nice list of presets tuned to the frequency steps I "borrowed" from them. |
| 07:37:27 | [Saint] | I'll put up a version with the stepping listed above, as googling suggests that is mighty common for a 10 band EQ. |
| 07:38:01 | [Saint] | I just can't promise I'll get the presets right if I try convert them, or that I'll be able to find another nice set of presets to steal from. |
| 07:38:15 | [Saint] | errrr "borrow" |
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| 09:17:13 | wodz | Is there reliable way to test in preprocessor if we target 32 or 64bit system? |
| 09:19:02 | wodz | for linux and mingw it should be sufficient to test UINTPTR_MAX, how about cygwin? |
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| 09:28:39 | JdGordon | wodz: did you figure out how to do the screen log? |
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| 09:30:58 | wodz | yes |
| 09:31:04 | wodz | works pretty good |
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| 10:07:57 | kugel | wodz: UINTPTR_MAX should always be sufficient |
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| 10:09:21 | kugel | wodz: additionally autoconf defines ARCH=ARCH_AMD64 or ARCH=ARCH_X86 respectively for you |
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| 10:19:30 | wodz | kugel: this doesn't cover PPC64 for example |
| 10:19:51 | wodz | gtg |
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| 10:22:39 | kugel | cygwin runs on PPC64? |
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| 10:56:00 | pixelma | probably not cygwin but OSX |
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| 11:03:43 | kugel | what's wrong with PPC64 in this regard anyway? |
| 11:05:29 | Belzebub | Rc |
| 11:05:45 | Belzebub | Rockbox support *.mogg files? |
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| 11:11:45 | Zagor | Belzebub: no. this is the first I've even heard of it |
| 11:12:45 | Zagor | ogg can already support 255 channels, so I don't quite see what mogg adds |
| 11:14:18 | funman | wodz: using predefined compiler defines is the most reliable i guess |
| 11:15:33 | wodz | funman: for example which? I can't find compiler define telling what ptr size is (aka 32/64bits arch) |
| 11:15:43 | kugel | wodz: UINTPTR_MAX |
| 11:16:23 | wodz | thats from stdint.h AFAIK |
| 11:16:44 | kugel | is that a problem? |
| 11:17:06 | funman | wodz: i mean __i386__, __x86_64__ etc .. |
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| 11:18:35 | wodz | kugel: I don't know, I implemented check just as UINTPTR_MAX range check but I ask if there is some better way |
| 11:18:54 | Belzebub | Zagor: *.mogg is multistream files |
| 11:19:00 | kugel | that check is totally fine |
| 11:19:08 | Zagor | Belzebub: so is ogg |
| 11:19:14 | Zagor | what's the difference? |
| 11:19:34 | kugel | perhaps just the extension :p |
| 11:20:11 | Zagor | kugel: no, mogg is a container with several ogg files in it. |
| 11:20:18 | Zagor | I just don't understand why |
| 11:20:21 | kugel | wodz: my cpp defines __SIZEOF_POINTER__=8 if that's I don't think there is any guaratee that it's defined unlike UINTPTR_MAX |
| 11:20:36 | Belzebub | Zagor: http://pastebin.com/TXTqyjj7 this is a difference |
| 11:20:39 | kugel | if that's any help but* |
| 11:21:00 | kugel | I would leave it |
| 11:21:58 | Zagor | Belzebub: I understand they are different formats. what I'm asking is "why are people making unstandard mogg files that require custom code instead of making standard multichannel ogg files?" |
| 11:22:43 | Belzebub | Zagor: for dj's and people who want play the instuments |
| 11:23:00 | Zagor | Belzebub: but ogg already supports that |
| 11:23:16 | Belzebub | Zagor: lossless? |
| 11:23:19 | Zagor | ogg *is* multichannel. mogg doesn't add any new feature, only new complexity. |
| 11:23:46 | Zagor | lossless is a codec issue, not a container issue |
| 11:26:38 | Zagor | so yes, you can have multichannel lossless (such as flac or oggpcm) in standard ogg files |
| 11:27:28 | gevaerts | We don't support those combinations though, IIRC :) |
| 11:29:35 | * | Zagor grabs some files to investigate |
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| 11:40:15 | Zagor | Belzebub: are there any files not ripped from Guitar Hero? |
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| 11:43:35 | Belzebub | Zagor: nope |
| 11:44:18 | Belzebub | Zagor: have a oryginal voice and not premastered track |
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| 11:45:00 | Zagor | Belzebub: What do you mean? |
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| 11:45:33 | Belzebub | Zagor: Can U download a package? |
| 11:46:14 | Zagor | Belzebub: I have only found files ripped from games like Guitar Hero or Rockband |
| 11:46:39 | Belzebub | Zagor: give a download link |
| 11:48:29 | Belzebub | Zagor: this file probably stolen from studio |
| 11:49:38 | Belzebub | Zagor: You must have audacity to open mogg file |
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| 11:56:08 | Zagor | Belzebub: that one is not lossless btw. it averages 183 kbit/s per track. |
| 11:57:19 | Belzebub | but awesome |
| 11:57:29 | Zagor | and they are in Rock Band, so I'd bet it comes from there: http://www.rockband.com/songs/artists/Papa+Roach |
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| 12:10:03 | [Saint] | I changed g386 around again. |
| 12:10:06 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #386 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/386 : 10 Band EQ w/Presets adapted from VLC by Hayden Pearce (changes/86/386/4) |
| 12:10:40 | [Saint] | Seems I was having some bad luck botching git amend, but I'm fairly confident I fixed it up :) |
| 12:49:34 | [Saint] | The new frequency stepping seems quite nice. |
| 12:50:09 | [Saint] | I'm still open to suggestions for better preset configuratons. |
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| 14:52:10 | redhot | HOwdy everyone! |
| 14:52:33 | redhot | Can anyone tell me about CPU and batery usage of RockBox?! |
| 14:52:53 | pamaury | it depends on the target |
| 14:52:57 | redhot | Rockbox 3.12 on SanDisk Sansa Clip + 4GB |
| 14:53:15 | redhot | WHat files uses more CPU and battery: MP3 or FLAC? |
| 14:53:52 | redhot | Of course I can measure it but it'll take too much time :) |
| 14:54:05 | redhot | So I ask you gurus of code! |
| 14:54:23 | pamaury | funman might know the answer for the first one |
| 14:54:36 | pamaury | saratoga knows about codecs, I think flac is more extensive |
| 14:55:00 | redhot | pamaury: I think opposite :) |
| 14:55:09 | redhot | So we need kewl expert! |
| 14:56:05 | pamaury | I'm not a codec expert, I mostly know about drivers, and I don't know much about the clip+ but I think the battery life is pretty good compared to the sandisk software |
| 14:56:53 | redhot | pamaury: exactly, it is quite the same ~15 hrs (with low-power headphones, of course) |
| 14:57:19 | redhot | But I think difference MP3-FLAC may be significant... |
| 14:57:27 | redhot | Just a stupid question |
| 14:57:28 | pamaury | you can also find more information here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaRuntime |
| 14:57:42 | gevaerts | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison |
| 14:58:00 | redhot | pamaury: Yay! Kewl links! Thanks, man! |
| 14:58:39 | pamaury | and here http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison |
| 14:58:40 | gevaerts | Both flac and mp3 are relatively low. On single-core, flac uses less CPU, but keep in mind that it will need more flash access, so that CPU gain might not translate to better battery life |
| 14:59:16 | redhot | gevaerts: I see you suggest me to perfrom benchamrks, right? :) |
| 14:59:35 | pamaury | it depends on the file, mostly the data rate |
| 14:59:42 | gevaerts | If you want meaniingful data for your own use case, yes, you need to do the work :) |
| 14:59:59 | redhot | as always!))) |
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| 15:00:07 | pamaury | in any case, both mp3 and flac have low cpu usage, compared to other codecs |
| 15:00:22 | redhot | that sounds good, thanks |
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| 15:22:25 | funman | redhot: clip+ battery life is around 20 hours iirc |
| 15:23:04 | redhot | funman: I have used it with Pro headphones so didn't have more than 15 hrs |
| 15:23:37 | redhot | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaRuntime also tells about ~15 hrs |
| 15:24:00 | funman | that page is very likely more correct than my thoughts |
| 15:24:24 | redhot | it is ok |
| 15:24:46 | redhot | I have to perfrom my own benchmarks) |
| 15:24:47 | dfkt | funman, i think we got some 18-19h out of the clip+ before it was stable, when some things were still missing... around 14-15h is what i get with current builds as well |
| 15:25:07 | dfkt | (which still is 5h more than with stock firmware :) |
| 15:25:41 | funman | redhot: if you run battery_bench it would be nice to put the results on the wiki btw |
| 15:26:01 | funman | dfkt: it'd be nice to go back to that performance! |
| 15:26:17 | redhot | funman: ok, no problem! what should I do for that? |
| 15:26:21 | redhot | Just run those app? |
| 15:26:22 | dfkt | funman, maybe that was even before the clock of the AMS devices got fixed |
| 15:27:33 | funman | redhot: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginBatteryBenchmark |
| 15:29:09 | redhot | funman: does it requires full discharge cycle? |
| 15:29:16 | funman | yes |
| 15:29:22 | redhot | ok, roger that |
| 15:29:40 | redhot | On weekend I will perfrom testing for flac and mp3 using this plugin |
| 15:33:55 | redhot | funman: any specific requirements for headphones used? |
| 15:34:08 | redhot | batterylife very depends on them too |
| 15:34:24 | funman | nope just mention what you feel necessary in the wiki |
| 15:35:49 | redhot | ok |
| 15:36:26 | dfkt | i once tested battery life with some 16 ohm iems, and then with some 300 ohm phones (at the same volume setting)... didn't really give any difference in play time (but of course the volume level for the listener is quite different) |
| 15:37:05 | redhot | definitely |
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| 15:40:56 | redhot | Perfect! Thanks, guys |
| 15:41:35 | redhot | I'll measure this tiny masterpiece-player |
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| 17:27:54 | copper | I remember seeing different frequency response graphs for the Fuze, with the OF and with Rockbox |
| 17:28:23 | copper | Can someone please explain how Rockbox can change the FR of the Fuze's DAC? |
| 17:28:32 | copper | in simple terms, if possible |
| 17:29:09 | copper | s/DAC/output/ (I don't know if it's the DAC that was affected, or something else) |
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| 17:38:46 | pamaury | copper: fuze or fuze+ ? Generally you can tweaks some physical parameters of the amplifier or of the DAC, resulting on different FR |
| 17:39:06 | copper | can't remember which |
| 17:41:13 | pamaury | in the case of the fuze+, to pick a concrete example, you can tweaks many voltages and biais at different stages of the amplifier and the DAC |
| 17:41:18 | pamaury | *tweak |
| 17:41:22 | copper | hmmm |
| 17:42:00 | copper | is that common? |
| 17:42:45 | pamaury | the SoC of the fuze+ (imx233) is much more configurable that many other SoC |
| 17:43:59 | pamaury | but targets using an external codec like WM* can also be quite configurable |
| 17:44:43 | copper | WM = Wolfson DACs? |
| 17:44:50 | pamaury | yes |
| 17:45:02 | copper | and what's the intended purpose for such configurability? |
| 17:45:41 | copper | (just curious) |
| 17:47:26 | copper | to adapt to different circuit designs I assume |
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| 17:48:02 | pamaury | I'm not an expert of this field but I suspect it's mostly for two reasons: 1) you have many things to tweak in such DACs and it's mostly free to let the user tweak them 2) you can adapt many circuit and optimise for the parameter you care most about (consumption, quality) |
| 17:48:47 | copper | so it's not impossible that Rockbox can sound different from the OF in certain cases? |
| 17:49:15 | copper | or at least measure differently |
| 17:49:37 | pamaury | exactly, I know that on some WM* there is a high quality mode which improves the sound quality but result in higher consumption |
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| 17:50:38 | pamaury | I don't remember if it was integrated but the impact was quite noticeable |
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| 19:50:32 | lorenzo92 | I have the R1, I already set up a modified firmware and rockbox starts |
| 19:50:33 | lorenzo92 | of course nothing works :p |
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| 19:51:08 | lorenzo92 | this player is originally designed to be used in landscape, thus I think the best approach is to use the same policy to rockbox, do you agree? |
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| 19:57:02 | pamaury | lorenzo92: depends on how you feel it :) the ZEN X-Fi 2 is landscape in the OF but I feel it's better in portrait, better use of the screen |
| 19:58:07 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: okay, I just wanted to see if there was a kind of rule :) Yeah I'm thinking about doing it in portrait too hum doesn't matter for the moment I'll simply start implementing basic things like hardware buttons and touchscreen hehe |
| 19:58:34 | pamaury | anyway that's simply a matter of exchanging width and height at this point |
| 19:58:39 | lorenzo92 | yeah |
| 19:58:40 | pamaury | I don't think there is a rule |
| 19:59:52 | lorenzo92 | I don't know if starting now to do a new target or starting now implementing something on top of R0 and then port it to a new target hum |
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| 20:00:02 | lorenzo92 | I think I'll need to do things right :D |
| 20:01:10 | lorenzo92 | I will reuse some code of R0 tough, so I will simply use the files in R0 directory without copying them if not necessary, later moving them could be done if necessary for style |
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| 20:41:30 | Edsansaclipplus | hi |
| 20:42:15 | Edsansaclipplus | My rockbox doesn't start up anymore and it just boots the original firmware, any advice? |
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| 20:45:45 | AlexP | what device? |
| 20:48:14 | Edsansaclipplus | Sansaclip + |
| 20:53:11 | AlexP | Did you upgrade the Sansa firmware? |
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| 20:55:33 | Edsansaclipplus | I didn't, should I? |
| 20:56:11 | AlexP | No, but if you had that would have removed the Rockbox bootloader |
| 20:56:27 | Edsansaclipplus | Let's say somehow the bootloader got removed, how do I get it back? |
| 20:56:48 | AlexP | Reinstall it |
| 20:56:48 | AlexP | Using the utility |
| 20:56:48 | AlexP | as before |
| 20:57:52 | Edsansaclipplus | Utility doesn't work on mine, how do I put the bootloader on manually? |
| 20:58:05 | AlexP | How did you install it in the first place? |
| 20:58:41 | Edsansaclipplus | Exctracted the files to the main dir on the device, I just re-did that and it didn't do anything. |
| 20:59:15 | AlexP | Then you didn't install the bootloader |
| 20:59:20 | AlexP | So it will have never worked |
| 20:59:39 | AlexP | And I'm pretty sure Rockbox Utility does work with the clip+ |
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| 21:00:05 | AlexP | The bootloader install involves giving the utility an original sansa firmware file for it to patch |
| 21:00:55 | Edsansaclipplus | So you're telling me you don't how to do it manually? Thanks anyway. |
| 21:01:07 | AlexP | I do, but the utility is much easier |
| 21:01:23 | jlbiasini | hi I cannot build Zen X-Fi3 simulator : http://pastebin.com/hfJJj0Yk any idea? |
| 21:01:29 | AlexP | What are the symptoms of it not working for your clip+? |
| 21:01:58 | AlexP | If you insist on doing it manually, then the manual has the instructions |
| 21:02:41 | Edsansaclipplus | Says config path is invalid, and then won't give me the option of selecting it. I have installed it before manually, and one day it started booting into the std firmware. |
| 21:03:04 | AlexP | So you patched the original firmware using mkamsboot? |
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| 21:03:29 | pamaury | jlbiasini: perhaps ask kugel, it seems related to threading |
| 21:03:29 | Edsansaclipplus | If that's what it took to install it orignally, then yeah, that's what I did. |
| 21:03:43 | AlexP | Then do that again, as I said the instructions are in the manual |
| 21:04:52 | pamaury | jlbiasini: are you building under linux ? |
| 21:04:56 | jlbiasini | kugel: any idea on why I get this error? |
| 21:05:12 | jlbiasini | yes, I unstalled libsdl 1.3 dev |
| 21:05:26 | jlbiasini | I just tried with version 1.2 |
| 21:06:19 | jlbiasini | ... and get another error : http://pastebin.com/uPQg1f9g |
| 21:06:56 | Edsansaclipplus | Bootloader webaddress isn't found. |
| 21:07:10 | AlexP | Which one? |
| 21:07:14 | AlexP | The Sansa one? |
| 21:07:18 | AlexP | mkamsboot? |
| 21:07:34 | pamaury | jlbiasini: I'm not sure it's sdl related, it's something about signals |
| 21:07:47 | Edsansaclipplus | http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/clipplus/ bootloader-clipplus.sansa |
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| 21:07:55 | AlexP | you have a space in there |
| 21:07:58 | AlexP | remove it |
| 21:08:11 | AlexP | The link as shown in the online manual works |
| 21:08:18 | Edsansaclipplus | Yeah just noticed, that's the one FROM the manual. |
| 21:08:23 | AlexP | pdf? |
| 21:08:27 | jlbiasini | let's try Zen X-Fi2 then! |
| 21:08:27 | AlexP | or online? |
| 21:08:28 | Edsansaclipplus | Yeah |
| 21:08:31 | Edsansaclipplus | pdf |
| 21:08:53 | AlexP | one mo |
| 21:09:09 | Edsansaclipplus | There is a space in both the links mkams boot and the one I put. |
| 21:09:39 | AlexP | It works fine here |
| 21:09:47 | Edsansaclipplus | Or could just be newline character being dodgey. |
| 21:09:52 | AlexP | Your reader is inserting a space where it crosses the line I guess |
| 21:12:36 | lorenzo92 | pamaury, kugel: I have BUTTON_LEFT missing in action.c. Do I need to simply mock it defining a button that won't never be used in the button-target.h? |
| 21:13:39 | lorenzo92 | okay the trick worked of course, but it's not so nice :D |
| 21:14:10 | pamaury | lorenzo92: rockbox expects that one of your button be BUTTON_LEFT, preferably a working one |
| 21:14:54 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: hum R1 has only 3 butttons, and a touchscreen, okay I can eventually bind vol up/down to left right if it makes sense... |
| 21:15:10 | pamaury | lorenzo92: it can be a touchscreen button |
| 21:15:26 | Edsansaclipplus | AlexP, some reason I'm not getting any oput file from running the exe :/ |
| 21:15:41 | pamaury | I think it get automatically defined if you use the standard touchscreen code |
| 21:15:41 | AlexP | you are running it a command prompt? |
| 21:15:47 | AlexP | Not just double clicking it? |
| 21:15:50 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: ahhh okay, so for the moment I did not "touch" this part ^^ so i'll mock it for the moment |
| 21:15:52 | lorenzo92 | thanks |
| 21:16:00 | Edsansaclipplus | Running it with windows 7's "run" |
| 21:16:08 | AlexP | run it from a command prompt |
| 21:16:15 | AlexP | it is a console application, not gui |
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| 21:18:23 | bluebrother | why on earth use mkamsboot directly? |
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| 21:18:52 | AlexP | bluebrother: See earlier, I couldn't be bothered to continue pushing rbutil :) |
| 21:19:09 | bluebrother | and what exactly does "doesn't work on mine" mean? |
| 21:19:16 | AlexP | bluebrother: see a bit later |
| 21:19:34 | bluebrother | *if* there is a bug it can only get fixed if people tell about it. "doesn't work" is pretty useless. |
| 21:20:04 | bluebrother | AlexP: I haven't found an explanation of the "doesn't work" thing :o |
| 21:20:10 | * | bluebrother reads again |
| 21:20:24 | AlexP | bluebrother: [20:02:42] <Edsansaclipplus> Says config path is invalid, and then won't give me the option of selecting it. I have installed it before manually, and one day it started booting into the std firmware. |
| 21:20:42 | Edsansaclipplus | Ah |
| 21:20:42 | bluebrother | ah. |
| 21:20:42 | Edsansaclipplus | sorry |
| 21:20:46 | bluebrother | missed that before |
| 21:20:55 | bluebrother | well, in that case the path selestion is likely to be invalid |
| 21:21:03 | * | bluebrother needs more details |
| 21:23:19 | Edsansaclipplus | Right, so I click utility (btw thanks Alex, it works again now, somehow the thing must've deleted the patched OF file) and it says something about configuration file being invalid, so it takes me to another window where I can select my model, or click auto-detect, autodetect causes the program to pull ".exe is not responding" and it selecting the path manually doesn't give me the actual option of selecting the J directory, only C and K (sometimes) |
| 21:23:28 | AlexP | Edsansaclipplus: no worries |
| 21:23:56 | bluebrother | ok, so select something in the dialog, then close it with Ok |
| 21:24:04 | bluebrother | then go to Help / Troubleshooting / System Trace |
| 21:24:15 | bluebrother | post the trace to pastebin.com (or something similar) |
| 21:24:29 | AlexP | by the way, once the patched bootloader is installed, that file is gone - the only way to get rid of it is to install an unpatched OF firmware |
| 21:24:52 | jlbiasini | pamaury: kugel: Zen X-Fi2 sim doesn't build either! |
| 21:24:56 | AlexP | "the get rid of it" being the Rockbox bootloader |
| 21:25:44 | Edsansaclipplus | Bluebrother, what am I selecting and where? |
| 21:25:55 | pamaury | jlbiasini: works with the build bots ! |
| 21:26:36 | bluebrother | Edsansaclipplus: select some for the "select your device in the file system" select some drive letter |
| 21:26:41 | bluebrother | then select some player. |
| 21:26:47 | bluebrother | then click Ok in the dialog |
| 21:26:54 | jlbiasini | pamaury: what is that? |
| 21:26:57 | gevaerts | Ideally, select the correct drive letter and player :) |
| 21:27:14 | Edsansaclipplus | Is this what you want? http://pastebin.com/7d2ZLLa6 |
| 21:27:34 | bluebrother | yes |
| 21:27:36 | * | bluebrother looks |
| 21:27:49 | Edsansaclipplus | Only gives me the option of selecting C. |
| 21:27:50 | pamaury | jlbiasini: we have bots building different version of rockbox on each commit |
| 21:28:10 | pamaury | http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi |
| 21:28:28 | bluebrother | if you go to Help / Troubleshooting / System Info, does it show all your drives? |
| 21:28:28 | jlbiasini | so you mean I have a problem on my building environment? |
| 21:28:51 | pamaury | jlbiasini: yes, are you on linux ? |
| 21:28:54 | Edsansaclipplus | Sort of, it doesn't show them with anything in. |
| 21:29:08 | bluebrother | what does this mean? |
| 21:29:22 | jlbiasini | yes debian squeeze 64 bit |
| 21:29:31 | bluebrother | you should see a list |
| 21:29:33 | jlbiasini | oups Wheezy! |
| 21:29:37 | jlbiasini | = testing |
| 21:29:53 | Edsansaclipplus | http://pastebin.com/MK9s6nfp |
| 21:29:55 | bluebrother | which shows drive letter, drive name (aka label) and free and total space |
| 21:30:09 | Edsansaclipplus | Yeah, both free and total have 0. |
| 21:30:14 | bluebrother | this is weird |
| 21:30:21 | bluebrother | what OS are you using? |
| 21:30:27 | jlbiasini | that's strange because i was building fuze+ with no problem till now... |
| 21:30:47 | Edsansaclipplus | windows 7 home premium sp 1 64 |
| 21:30:52 | bluebrother | hmm. |
| 21:31:24 | bluebrother | seems your drives are rather small then :) |
| 21:31:27 | pamaury | jlbiasini: that's a different thing |
| 21:31:36 | * | bluebrother goes for the windows machine |
| 21:32:06 | Edsansaclipplus | Well, it works now that I've got rockbox installed. |
| 21:32:16 | AlexP | bluebrother: 64 bit? |
| 21:32:28 | bluebrother | AlexP: yes. Shouldn't be a problem |
| 21:32:30 | Edsansaclipplus | Although I could have been being a complete and utter derp before. |
| 21:32:54 | Edsansaclipplus | I think my OF is a tad dodgey |
| 21:33:30 | pamaury | jlbiasini: can you "grep -R SA_ONSTACK /usr/include" ? |
| 21:35:07 | bluebrother | works fine for me on W7 Pro 64bit |
| 21:35:21 | Edsansaclipplus | Is the device plugged in? |
| 21:35:44 | Edsansaclipplus | And has it got Rockbox installed? |
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| 21:36:24 | Edsansaclipplus | Because, it only gave me this problem when rockbox wasn't installed, but I had other issues with the device as well, when I plugged it in I got a few random errors from windows. |
| 21:36:33 | Edsansaclipplus | Rockbox has fixed these though. |
| 21:36:44 | Edsansaclipplus | So basically I think it's a problem with the sasafirmware update software. |
| 21:38:23 | Edsansaclipplus | Thanks for the help, I'm off now. |
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| 21:40:01 | bluebrother | hmm. |
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| 21:52:36 | amayer_ | if i find a bug with a patch in gerrit do i post feedback to gerrit or the tracker? |
| 21:53:00 | gevaerts | Both, I'd say |
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| 22:01:16 | amayer_ | thanks |
| 22:01:47 | amayer_ | gevaerts: to clarify the bug is specific to the patch and doesnt exist without the patch |
| 22:02:02 | gevaerts | Oh |
| 22:02:12 | amayer_ | so just gerrit then? |
| 22:02:15 | gevaerts | In that case, it shouldn't go near the bug tracker at all |
| 22:02:35 | amayer_ | ok. just makeing sure. |
| 22:04:36 | jlbiasini | pamaury: http://pastebin.com/gYRqaf5g |
| 22:07:34 | pamaury | jlbiasini: I don't understand, thread-linux.c includes signal.h which should contain SA_ONSTACK... |
| 22:08:08 | pamaury | *thread-unix.c |
| 22:10:48 | pamaury | jlbiasini: can you try to add this in thread-unix.c: |
| 22:10:48 | pamaury | #define SA_ONSTACK0x08000000u |
| 22:16:59 | jlbiasini | pamaury: where is thread-unix.c is it the one in ./firmware/asm/thread-unix.c ? |
| 22:17:12 | jlbiasini | I had it there and no change! |
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| 22:17:42 | jlbiasini | *add |
| 22:18:03 | pamaury | hummm |
| 22:18:51 | pamaury | so, replace SA_ONSTACK by this value in this file then ? |
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| 22:18:59 | pamaury | jlbiasini: ^ |
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| 22:22:13 | jlbiasini | pamaury: no change |
| 22:22:29 | edsansaclipplus | Ugh, so I leave the device on (in rockbox mode) and it turns itself off, and I click it on again, and it starts with OF T_T |
| 22:22:31 | jlbiasini | it would have been confusing anyway :D |
| 22:23:07 | edsansaclipplus | Hmm nvm, just restarted it and now it's in RB mode again.. |
| 22:23:28 | jlbiasini | pamaury: I thing I will just reinstall and comfigure my git tree from scratch |
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| 22:23:41 | * | lorenzo92 wonders why samsung had to compile a different module (r1gpio vs r0gpio) when the hw is the same... |
| 22:23:48 | pamaury | jlbiasini: I'm not sure that's a problem with your tree |
| 22:24:24 | jlbiasini | well if the bots can build how is it possible? |
| 22:25:25 | pamaury | sometimes things don't work for strange reasons, if you are at git HEAD, there is no reason to reconfigure, the best you can do is make reconf && make clean && make |
| 22:25:41 | pamaury | but replace SA_ONSTACK directly by its value in the file should do it |
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| 22:27:19 | kugel | lorenzo92: different team working on it |
| 22:27:31 | kugel | teams* |
| 22:27:41 | pamaury | ah kugel |
| 22:27:48 | lorenzo92 | yep ... so the gpio module is the same, pretty sure from ida, but I don't have the include for R1 this time |
| 22:28:11 | lorenzo92 | ioctl base code is different, any hints? I'm sure they changed only the magic (G for R0) |
| 22:28:30 | pamaury | perhaps you can help jlbiasini, he has a problem with SA_ONSTACK being undefined, I think you know the signal trick for threading better than me, perhaps you're seen this before |
| 22:29:00 | jlbiasini | hilfe! |
| 22:29:44 | lorenzo92 | kugel: from a quick n dirty it may be that the have used a M instead of G, no sense, but my intuition (based on code) says so ^^ |
| 22:31:19 | * | lorenzo92 intuition is not always a good idea |
| 22:32:26 | kugel | jlbiasini: does /usr/include/signal.h include <asm/signal.h>? |
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| 22:34:44 | jlbiasini | kugel: no |
| 22:35:30 | kugel | that's probably your problem. if you include <asm/signal.h> in thread-unix.c it should work |
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| 22:37:12 | lorenzo92 | kugel: looking at the binaries, before doing an ioctl there is an operation with a 16 bit number, namely 0xBFF3B900 for R0 with magic G and 0xBFF3B900 for R1 with a probably different magic |
| 22:37:21 | lorenzo92 | any clue about it? |
| 22:37:41 | jlbiasini | kugel: still not... |
| 22:37:54 | lorenzo92 | kugel: whops is 0xBFF3BF00 for R1 |
| 22:38:11 | jlbiasini | we are talking about firmware/asm/thread-unix.c rifht? |
| 22:38:21 | jlbiasini | *right |
| 22:41:47 | kugel | yes |
| 22:42:02 | jlbiasini | then it doesn't solve the issue |
| 22:42:29 | jlbiasini | can you compile it on your computer? |
| 22:43:35 | pamaury | jlbiasini: are you sure you are editing the right file ? |
| 22:43:49 | kugel | does it recompile anything? |
| 22:44:00 | kugel | after you make a change |
| 22:44:23 | jlbiasini | not sure because I made make clean first |
| 22:45:27 | jlbiasini | kugel: yeah it recompile some stuff but hang the same way |
| 22:47:04 | pamaury | jlbiasini: can you try to introduce some obvious compile error in that file to check ?! |
| 22:47:35 | kugel | jlbiasini: and the error remains if you replace all occurences of SA_ONSTACK with 0x08000000? |
| 22:48:37 | jlbiasini | you mean 0x08000000u isn't it? |
| 22:48:53 | pamaury | kugel: I told him but he says yes, that seems unlikely |
| 22:48:53 | pamaury | jlbiasini: same thing (here) |
| 22:49:17 | jlbiasini | no but I tried also and yes it remains... |
| 22:52:05 | jlbiasini | Ok I just #include "ta mère en slip" and get an error for it |
| 22:52:37 | pamaury | lol |
| 22:56:29 | jlbiasini | ;) |
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| 23:02:08 | neoed | Hey, I put a wmp media playlist file into the playlist folder, but it won't show up when I click "playlist catalogue" any thoughts? |
| 23:03:54 | dfkt | rockbox supports m3u and m3u8 only, afaik |
| 23:04:39 | neoed | I take it I can't change that with a clever rename can I? |
| 23:05:07 | dfkt | no, they're definitely in different format... maybe there's a converter for those out there? |
| 23:05:52 | dfkt | yep, lots of results in google for wpl-to-m3u |
| 23:07:22 | kugel | jlbiasini: fwiw, #error guarantees compile failure :) |
| 23:08:13 | neoed | Haha, windows media player allows me to save it as m3u anyway :) |
| 23:08:25 | dfkt | ah, even better |
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| 23:09:47 | neoed | Although some of the files are missing? |
| 23:09:50 | jlbiasini | yes but it's less fun than #include "your momma..." |
| 23:09:50 | neoed | That's strange. |
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| 23:11:04 | lorenzo92 | kugel: yeah my intuition was quite ok, I was just opening r1GPIO instead of r1Gpio device -.- |
| 23:11:25 | lorenzo92 | so the magic is G for R0 and A for R1 haha just to make me crazy |
| 23:12:32 | * | lorenzo92 R1 has now working hardware buttons a new fresh target |
| 23:13:25 | dfkt | the r1 has buttons? ;) |
| 23:13:46 | lebellium | trolling dfkt :) |
| 23:14:03 | | Quit neoed (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) |
| 23:14:09 | dfkt | just trolling samsung's silly naming scheme (like cowon's)... r0 and r1 are so very different |
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| 23:15:44 | lebellium | R0 and R1 could make sense at the time because they have similar hw and they were released at the same time. But now there is the R2, successor to the R1. So the naming scheme is a bit strange.... |
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| 23:16:51 | Tim_Elliott | Anyone have a Sansa Fuze Plus? |
| 23:17:29 | saratoga | Tim_Elliott: if you have a question, just ask it |
| 23:18:08 | Tim_Elliott | I'm considering buying one and wander how well Rockbox works with the touch interface |
| 23:19:11 | Tim_Elliott | Great deal http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390526168578 |
| 23:20:29 | lorenzo92 | dfkt: yep....3 buttons ^^ and touchscreen |
| 23:20:39 | lorenzo92 | xD |
| 23:20:45 | lorenzo92 | soo many haha |
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| 23:21:07 | Edsansaclipplus | Hi, how does the device refer to itself, if I'm creating a playlist, what path do I use? |
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| 23:21:35 | * | dfkt is still hoping for a j3 rockbox port - 6 buttons + touchscreen ;) |
| 23:21:49 | dfkt | congrats, lorenzo92, btw! |
| 23:22:24 | lebellium | I guess at the time you said the J3 is good enough, no need for Rockbox. Am I wrong? :D |
| 23:22:56 | dfkt | well, it has no replaygain, other than that it basically does it all |
| 23:23:12 | dfkt | rockbox never hurt to have on any device ;) |
| 23:23:39 | Tim_Elliott | I got a Insignia pilot a few years ago and was hoping they would update the firmware or someone would port Rockbox to it. Instead, the whole line was pretty much abandon |
| 23:24:19 | saratoga | Edsansaclipplus: the player will ignore drive letters and such, so it doesn't really matter so long as the path exists |
| 23:24:45 | saratoga | relative paths work as well |
| 23:25:50 | Edsansaclipplus | Ah, basically, in my windows music folder, there are certain items which aren't in a folder, these are automatically put into a device on the machine, is there anyway to quickly solve this? |
| 23:26:11 | Edsansaclipplus | *put into a folder on the device (with the artist namer, and then anothe wone with the album name) |
| 23:26:52 | saratoga | i don't understand the question |
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| 23:27:23 | dfkt | "syncing"? |
| 23:28:19 | Tim_Elliott | Is anyone still working on the iPod Classic port? |
| 23:28:39 | saratoga | well theres been multiple commits in the last week, so |
| 23:28:53 | Tim_Elliott | Nice |
| 23:29:44 | Edsansaclipplus | Okay, basically. I synced a playlist to my device, and it skips out several songs, these songs were not in any artist folder or album folder on my computer, but when they synced over, they were put in a folder on the device, rendering the playlist useless. Is there anyway to fix this short of going through the playlist via notepad and changing the directories? |
| 23:30:18 | Edsansaclipplus | After I synced, when I tried to open the playlist, it skipped out the songs, the songs ARE on the device. |
| 23:30:31 | Edsansaclipplus | As when I tried to sync again, it said they were "already on device" |
| 23:31:05 | saratoga | add the files to a new playlist, then save the playlist on the device |
| 23:31:48 | Edsansaclipplus | I don't follow. |
| 23:33:07 | saratoga | a playlist is a list of files, right? |
| 23:33:20 | saratoga | so add the files to a list, save to the device |
| 23:34:07 | kugel | jlbiasini: something is wrong with your setup if the compiler fails with this error (SA_ONSTACK not defined) and the file doesn't contain it anymore |
| 23:34:47 | pamaury | try to disable ccache |
| 23:35:20 | saratoga | is anyone around who can add files to the download server? |
| 23:35:36 | jlbiasini | wait: error doesn't mention SA_ONSTACK |
| 23:36:18 | pamaury | jlbiasini: what is the error then ?! |
| 23:36:24 | jlbiasini | http://pastebin.com/rThLJnzu |
| 23:38:12 | pamaury | wow, that is *very* strange |
| 23:39:02 | pamaury | which version of sdl do you have ? |
| 23:39:13 | pamaury | I have version 1.2.something here |
| 23:39:44 | jlbiasini | libsdl-1.3-dev |
| 23:40:01 | pamaury | try with libsdl-1.2 |
| 23:40:03 | jlbiasini | I have errors with sdl 1.2 too but not the same |
| 23:40:30 | pamaury | I prefer 1.2 because I think the 1.3 has/will introduce(d) changes |
| 23:40:38 | pamaury | can you show the errors with 1.2 please ? |
| 23:40:59 | jlbiasini | http://pastebin.com/uPQg1f9g |
| 23:41:15 | jlbiasini | those are the SA_ONSTACK |
| 23:41:50 | pamaury | common, that's impossible, have you replaced all the occurences of SA_ONSTACK with 0x80... ? |
| 23:41:55 | jlbiasini | oh right that's why the fix was not working : I changed the version in the meantime |
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| 23:43:40 | jlbiasini | wait that was before I have to test i again |
| 23:47:56 | jlbiasini | ok sorry for the version mixing |
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| 23:50:52 | jlbiasini | now it's working thanks guys! |
| 23:52:57 | pamaury | jlbiasini: cool :) I'll now we would succeed |
| 23:53:10 | pamaury | did you replace SA_ONSTACK ? |
| 23:53:25 | pamaury | if yes, could you try to get it back to normal and add #include <asm/signal.h> ? |
| 23:53:32 | jlbiasini | yes that solved the problem |
| 23:54:27 | pamaury | what ? the #include ? |
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| 23:56:43 | jlbiasini | no |
| 23:56:50 | jlbiasini | the SA replace |
| 23:57:45 | pamaury | ok, can you try to #include <sigaction.h> ? |
| 23:57:51 | pamaury | instead of replacing SA |
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