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#rockbox log for 2013-03-06

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00:16:56SuperBrainAKdont let them!!!!!!!!! http://act.freepress.net/sign/unlock_phones/?source=share
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00:27:53kugelAlexP: released?
00:28:27AlexPkugel: Not quite - it is all built and uploaded, but it needs a Swede to move stuff around before the final steps
00:28:37AlexPgevaerts is going to try and catch Zagor tomorrow
00:28:37kugelgreat!
00:28:41kugelgood work :)
00:28:46AlexPta :)
00:29:07kugelmost impressive part was not forgetting that we actually do regular releases :P
00:29:33AlexPhehe, I id forget by a week or two :)
00:30:03kugelthat's within error of measurement ;)
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01:06:50tenthi there..
01:07:00tentI just opened my sansa clip zip
01:07:20tentI'm trying to find the two pins to short in order to see the OF partition
01:08:53tentI found two pins.. when I bridge them while connecting the sansa to the usb pen (battery unsoldered) the screen of the sansa stays black but no usb drive shows up in windows..
01:09:08tentis black screen in that case normal behavior?
01:10:24tentok I guess nobody alive in this chan.. ;) anyway I've put picture and discussion also in the forum under this topic: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,42812.0.html
01:11:14tentmaybe I'm not using the correct pins.. but don't see any others.. maybe I've to get the screws of the board off and check also the other side of the pcb......?
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01:59:44*[Saint] shreiks
01:59:53[Saint]Why did no one stop that guy!?! :)
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02:00:05[Saint]Also...wha?
02:00:23*[Saint] wonders what he broke
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10:13:22gevaerts[Saint]: easy. You broke the "no spaces in filenames" convention, which broke the release
10:13:39gevaertsWell, it broke the tarball generation script
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11:44:37[Saint]gevaerts: Oh, aha, I see.
11:45:01[Saint]Something I was unaware of, that /probably/ should've been picked up in review.
11:46:41[Saint]gevaerts: I'm happy to do s/ /_/ or so, if its an issue of mass contention.
11:46:50gevaertsI don't think anyone knew tools *would* break, but yes, someone should have noticed
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12:01:21lebelliumwhat's the difference between 1 and - for the font setup?
12:01:46kugelessentially none
12:02:47lebelliumok thx
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12:24:30[Saint]1 and * is "always use userfont", whereas _ is the userfont or a fallback to sysfont.
12:24:53[Saint]But, I'm fairly sure userfont will fall back to sysfont anyway. SO, yeah, basically nothing.
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13:07:24lebellium %tp can only be used in a conditional right? %tp alone doesn't make sense right? I don't know why I used it in my theme for clip zip....
13:17:38[Saint]Yes, it is only useful as a conditional.
13:18:20lebelliumand so only useful in a SBS or WPS
13:18:35lebellium%tp in FMS doesn't make sense
13:18:37[Saint].....no? WHy?
13:18:57[Saint]It's just as useful there as anywhere else.
13:19:13[Saint]I'm not sure why you'd think it wouldn;t be.
13:19:14lebelliumbecause if the player reads the FMS file, that means there is a FM tuner actually...
13:20:02lebelliumthere can't be a false case with a %tp in a FMS file
13:20:47[Saint]Oh, derp. Sorry. I was mixing up %tp and %Tp
13:23:12lebelliumaha no, I'm not working on a touchscreen target yet, I'm making the theme for C200 :)
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15:04:00gevaertsZagor: can you move uploaded 3.13 files to the right place? AlexP built them yesterday
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16:55:09Zagorgevaerts: I have to run now, I'll fix it later tonight.
16:55:14gevaertsOK!
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18:16:56lebelliumhttp://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2238/20130306174018bis.jpg :)
18:17:23copperhttp://outpost.fr/gear/fuze-se425.jpg
18:17:32funmanlebellium: looks photoshopped, the hours are not the same :)
18:18:03funmanthe device on the right is android, right?
18:18:34lebelliumI took the picture 30 secondes after rockboxing the fuze+, I haven't set the time yet :)
18:18:49lebelliumthe device on the right is the awesome YP-R0
18:18:51lebelliumnot android
18:19:15lebelliumI hate touchpad devices and I hate this Fuze+, I just bought it for my collection :D
18:20:33copperI love mine
18:20:37copper:3
18:21:27lebelliumI have 65 mp3 players, experience told me touchpad is the worst invention ever lol
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18:28:09*scorche|sh still loves his hp touchpad ;)
18:28:50lebelliumahaha HP touchpad has a touchscreen, not a touchpad. I have nothing against touchscreens :)
18:35:40lebelliumBTW, I tried your theme copper, nice one :)
18:35:49copperthanks :)
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18:58:56k0stekHi. I have verry strange problem with my sansa clipp. when i connect it to PC i delete files, but when i disconnect my device these files are still on it. Recconect to pc - those files are still on it. Some1 could help me?
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19:00:25k0steki forgot to say : i've tried to format it - same thing. i've tried to install any firmware - nothing.
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19:17:40gevaertsTried to format, or formatted?
19:21:10k0stekyep. formatting done and there is still rockbox and those files
19:22:21k0steki can boot sansa and rockbox. but i can update/upgrade FW, delete or add files
19:22:43gevaertsAre you sure you formatted the internal flash?
19:22:49k0stekyes
19:23:22k0steki tried to format from sansa, from windows, from linux.
19:23:43funmanwhich files?
19:23:47k0stekall.
19:23:49bertriksome of the OF are regenerated if you delete them IIRC
19:24:08Tornewhat files are you trying to delete?
19:24:17k0stekmusic
19:24:26k0steki cant add music.
19:25:55k0stekwhen i copy files on sansa, it looks like files are copied
19:26:15k0stekbut when i unplug device they arent on it
19:26:36k0steki tried also to remove RB - no success
19:26:49k0stektried to install orginal FW - no success
19:28:14k0stekTorne: i cant delete anything or add anything.
19:28:38k0stekgevaerts: windows couldnt complete formatting
19:33:32k0stekany ideas?
19:34:20gevaertsAre you using rockbox or the OF for USB?
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19:42:31k0stekOF?
19:43:21k0stekaaa
19:43:28k0stekrockbox and OF
19:43:35k0steksame thing
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19:44:20AlexPthey very much aren't :)
19:44:41AlexP(I realise that isn't what you meant)
19:44:45k0steksame thing happend :P
19:45:59k0stekif i play game from plugins and i set new record i have *PANIC* updating size on empty dir
19:46:26k0stekmaybe this would help to claim wtf
19:47:34AlexPsounds like the flash is buggered to me
19:47:52k0stekyeah
19:47:57AlexPIf formatting failed it doesn't sound like just a screwed up filesystem
19:48:29k0steki came with same conclusion
19:51:29k0stekhttp://sansa.lithium.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/My-Sansa-Clip-has-become-Read-Only/td-p/64548
19:51:46k0stek1st post
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19:53:56k0steksame simmilar symptoms
19:54:18funmanwhat was the error when you tried to format?
19:54:43k0stekwindows system could not complete formatting
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20:51:46lebelliumif anyone interested, I'm done with my theme for C200 :) http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1778&target=sansac200
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20:52:07tenthi
20:52:37tentis Saint online? =)
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21:02:13tent...
21:05:57lorenzo92lebellium: good job ;)
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21:28:16k0stekso no1 can help me with my issue?
21:35:10funmank0stek: i guess it means the memory in your clip is broken
21:40:40tent?
21:41:00k0stekso theres no solution for this. well i must live with that :)
21:41:34funmank0stek: you can still put your music on uSD card at least
21:41:53k0stekyep i know that
21:42:32k0stekty for help ang good night
21:42:34k0stek*and
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21:43:11tenthello, about sansa clip zip continuously stuck in the initial anitmation of the logo/flower: anyone has ever experienced it or could suggest some solution?
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21:45:07funmantent: hello, try to plug usb before the logo comes maybe and reformat the player. we don't really know how this closed source OS works so there's not much we can do
21:45:46tentthe fact is it newer shows up any usb drive in windows when I plug the device
21:46:36tentwhat I mean is I'm unable to access or format anything if no usb drive shows up when pluggin it in..
21:47:20tentI tried to plug it in before power up, after, while, pressing back button, unsoldering the internal battery, etc..
21:48:26tentbut one thing you say says to me that if I still se this animation/flower logo it means there is no rockbox firmware running on the sansa but still the proprietary OS, is that correct?
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21:49:31tentbecause all of this happened after installing rockbox with the installer.. so I tought the rockbox firmware was already written on the sansa..
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21:53:05funmanyes, the flower comes from the OF, not rockbox
21:53:16funmanthat means you did not install the bootloader
21:54:35tentuhm..
21:55:31tentbut then what is now blocking the OF that comes from the rockbox installer if not being the bootloader?
21:57:33funmanask Sandisk, not us
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21:59:21tent?
21:59:38tentwell but sandisk does not know what the rockbox installer does I suppose..
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22:00:33tentmaybe you know if the rockbox installer will as first step write the bootloader or instaed perform some other thing before on the filesystem or so? that could explain it I mean?
22:02:29tentanyway what the fact seems to be is that apparently I could throw my sansa player just away?? no way to understand what happened and no way to recover.... but I admint it is also kind of strange I'm the only one having hat this problem... maybe just bad luck..
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22:05:33lorenzo92tent: hum first of all of course Sandisk doesnt know about the installer :). second, I'm not expert of any sansas but for sure if OF boots (at least a little) it doesn't need to be unrecoverable, just wait for some expert and check the wiki perhaps
22:07:47tentok I can wait.. whom should I try to contact?
22:08:09funmantry rockbox or anythingbutipod forums
22:08:33funmanhttp://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53958
22:08:45tentwell I posted on rockbox forum already but yes I will try this other one, thanks!
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22:24:48corona_windows does no work with my ipod
22:28:08kugellorenzo92: did ou see my comment about the ci message?
22:28:34lorenzo92kugel: hum what is the "ci message"?
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22:29:15kugelcommit message
22:29:19lorenzo92kugel: ah you mean your patched?
22:29:22lorenzo92*patches
22:29:29kugelg#410
22:29:33fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #410 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/410 : Samsung YP-R0 LCD enable improvements by Lorenzo Miori (changes/10/410/5)
22:31:01lorenzo92kugel: ah wops, I have just noticed them, let me see
22:31:34lorenzo92kugel: the memframe relates to rockbox generic memframe driver
22:32:10kugelbut how's the patch related to it?
22:33:32lorenzo92kugel: right. it's not related...
22:33:39tent@lorenzo92: sei italiano? :P
22:34:48lorenzo92tent: si, certo :) but here English has to be used :p
22:34:49tentit's a pitty nobody had experience on sansa clip zip performing the same unbrickprocedure as described here http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaClipV2UnbrickingTutorial
22:34:58tent;)
22:35:14tentof course.. just had that doubt.. ;)
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22:45:36lorenzo92kugel: fixed ;)
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22:46:51lebelliumwould it make sense to make an Archos Ondio theme nowadays except for my own usage? I mean, are there still dinosaur Archos users?
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22:47:21lorenzo92kugel: oh no, wait I'm getting a warning right now, hum let me check again, dunno why
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22:54:05lorenzo92kugel: okay now should be fine, damn next time I'll avoid this kind of cross-patching ^^
22:54:20lorenzo92fortunately not a lot of conflicts...
22:56:27lorenzo92okay another thing to do is to review the alsa wrapper, seems buggy at times and we have bad noises on R1 (and on some R0s too)
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23:09:33kugellorenzo92: replied
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23:11:20kugellorenzo92: for the alsa wrapper, I can suggest trying the poll-method of the driver
23:11:54kugel(alsa-pcm.c can work signal-driven (default) or polling-based, switchable with a #define at the top)
23:12:20lorenzo92kugel: yeah I've seen, I will give it a look also for recording (yes, I know ho basically implement but I still need to study your code hehe)
23:12:31lorenzo92*how
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23:18:01kugellorenzo92: it's quite possible that I implemented the alsa driver in a wrong way which causes noise on some devices. it just happened to work where I tested it
23:18:27lorenzo92kugel: hum okay
23:18:55kugelI'm saying I'm no alsa expert so dont take my code for golden :)
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23:19:44lorenzo92received :)
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23:24:54kugellorenzo92: pushed
23:25:07kugelthanks for your work :)
23:25:16lorenzo92kugel: perfect, thanks for your review :)
23:26:08lorenzo92i'll push on gerrit R1 patchset soon
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23:26:32lorenzo92or maybe i'll do something still on R0, let's see
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23:36:28kugellorenzo92: microsd support is still open :)
23:37:28lorenzo92kugel: yeah right, unfortunately (don't know why) I've lost my previous hotplug attempts :( :( the main point was the missing possibility of passing some parameters to the hotplug executable
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23:38:30kugellorenzo92: which parameters? I think all you need is set via environment variables by the kernel
23:39:27lorenzo92yes, sure, I did that using the sysfs interface, BUT i.e. calling a kill -pid did not work where calling only a kill (or ls to see the effect) worked
23:40:25lorenzo92so perhaps adding a pin-check (still in a polling fashion unfortunately) in the button handling section?
23:41:03lorenzo92otherwise I have no idea how setting up such interrupts from user space without any hack?!
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