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#rockbox log for 2013-03-15

00:06:44pamauryI tested on fuze+
00:07:30pamauryproblems might come from target which define std_keylock and behave badly in radio screen if there is a similar but slightly different mapping, like with BUTTON_REL for example
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00:43:41JdGordonpamaury: should be fine
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00:45:51lebelliumget dozens of "Notice: Undefined index: extension in /home/themes/private/themesite.class.php on line xxx" again while uploading a theme
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01:18:53amayerlebellium: ill look into it
01:19:04lebelliumthanks
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17:15:57cyphunkhi, im looking for some rockbox potential devices that are in early staages of analysis. i have experiance with firmware analysis (image analyses, crypto, disection, driver RE, etc) and would be happy to try to help. i looked at the targetstatus wiki page but this appears to list devices already well past the early stages of reworking
17:16:14cyphunkwhere do people generally post very early information about potential new targets?
17:21:16pamaurycyphunk: it depends, sometimes we don't post any information, and we don't necessarily have a general list
17:22:12AlexPcyphunk: People tend to work on what they fancy, and stick up what information they can be bothered to stick up :)
17:22:56pamaurycyphunk: if you are looking for devices with an already supported soc (that's the easiest), I know some gogears use the imx233 for which we have a port
17:23:09pamaury(philips gogears)
17:25:45cyphunkpamaury: will look at it. but not looking for a specific architecture. just more or less looking for a place to play with hardware RE and firmware analysis or RE and thought some rockbox targetsd that maybe have been stalled for whatever reason would be a good place
17:26:58cyphunkchecking out the gogear
17:27:46cyphunkpamaury: have a linkfor a gogear firmware image? (still going through the forums)
17:28:03pamauryhum, I could clearly use some help on the creatives but the reverse engineering is already mostly done on them, or some other people are working on it. The Sansa Express could be rockboxable too (but a bit old and hard to find). Let me see for the gogears
17:28:22*pamaury hates the way philips use confusing names to their players
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17:32:22pamaurybased on my personal files, the following players use imx233 at least: SA3VBE04/08 (GoGear Vibe), SA4ARA08KF_37 (GoGear Ariaz), SA4VBE04KF_37 (GoGear Vibe, new version I guess). I can't find the links anymore, need more time to search
17:33:00pamaurythe SA32xx too
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17:35:00pamauryhttp://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=SA4VBE04VN/12&slg=en&scy=FR
17:35:30pamauryhttp://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=SA4ARA04KF/12&slg=en&scy=FR
17:36:32pamauryah some Sony too are imx233 based, like the Sony NWZ-E363, nice target
17:38:14pamauryside note: the philips installers are a pain: you need to do an actual installation to get the firmware, those are not cab archives
17:39:59pamauryOn another SoCs, many samsung players are TCC based for which we have a pretty support already: YP-T10, YP-Q1, YP-P2, YP-K5. There is the YP-S3 which is S5L8700 based
17:43:50cyphunkokay i see from the forums that the gogear's firmware is via an updater
17:44:46cyphunkmight try to get it via that
17:44:50pamauryyeah, you download an updater, install it and usually you can find the firmware in the C/Program Files/something
17:45:29pamauryIf you are looking for a really tough challenge, you can try to work on rknano-b based targets, but we have no doc for them
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18:17:14cyphunkpamaury: thanks. checking rknano also
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19:20:54pamaurycyphunk: there is much info the rknano, i've gathered some tools, I know a few players but usually we don't have a firmware upgrade and i've done some reverse engineering but it's far from done
19:22:49pamaurythe philips sa3mxx are rknano based iirc and have a fw upgrade
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