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#rockbox log for 2013-04-19

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12:51:46pamaurywodz: I'm looking at archos OF disassembly, did you notice the rockchip usb code touches some unknown register in gpio1 block ?
12:54:15wodzyes
12:55:35pamauryany hint about what it does ? nothing in the SDK ?
12:56:26wodzI didn't check this but I think sdk I have doesn't have this
12:59:20pamauryperhaps PC6 controls the XPT power, because it seems unused elsewhere
12:59:42wodzpamaury: What function in disasm do you refer here?
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13:00:08pamauryISystemRockUsb and some others
13:00:27wodzok, iSystemRockUsb is in binary form in sdk
13:00:53wodzno source
13:01:51pamaurythere are a couple of functions that access this register too, always appear need cache functions, might be usb related too
13:03:39wodzpamaury: could be
13:04:32wodzwe don't know the registers of usb host part of the chip as well
13:06:50wodzpamaury: It would be interesting to check the state of this register. Maybe it is simply setting it to some default value.
13:07:20pamauryno, the code changes this value, sometimes it appears close to some nand related code too
13:09:38wodzno, I mean test on device
13:20:31wodzpamaury: have you played with lcdif timing register?
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15:52:01bassgeishaugh
15:52:09bassgeishai let a dj friend fuck with my eq
15:52:17bassgeishanwo its not the same
15:52:17bassgeishacry
15:53:33bebnaLet me guess: he dropped the bass?
15:54:07*gevaerts would like to point out that this isn't a general conversation channel
15:55:40bassgeishano it was something about
15:55:42bassgeishacut off?
15:55:58bassgeishaive been messing with it heh
15:56:44bassgeishait doesnt seem as loud
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16:01:08bassgeishaits just suckin down that battery heheh
16:01:20*gevaerts would like to point out that this isn't a general conversation channel
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16:13:14bebnado hardlinks work with rockboxs filebrowser?
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16:13:42funmanbebna: hardlinks in fat32 ?
16:14:37bebnaahh right, ntfs added it
16:18:55Torneif you are particularly brave you can pretend that fat has hardlinks by making directory entries that point to the same cluster chain, but attempting to modify the files or running chkdsk will destroy everything ;)
16:19:05Tornei did this a long time ago for some mp3 player ;)
16:25:09bebnaThe thing is, I want "labels" for my files. But it seams the only way to that is to modify tagcache.h
16:30:53Torneyeah, the database isn't very flexible.
16:30:59Tornethe code is very old
16:32:50bebnaand it seems it also important for the rest. Some plugins and the wps use it think, didn't check yet
16:33:11Tornepictureflow depends on the tagcache
16:33:13Tornenothing else does, afaik
16:33:21Tornethe wps just parses the tag data itself.
16:33:31Tornewell, the core of rockbox does.
16:33:50Tornemost devs don't use tagcache and nor do many users
16:33:58Torneso it doesn't get a lot of attention.
16:34:44bebnaWith the storage space of today it should get more attention
16:37:10gevaertsHow is that relevant?
16:37:11bebnaI wish had some time for it... thanks anyway, bye
16:37:20gevaertsProper directories are *much* easier@!
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16:37:49bebnayeah and if you like to sort your music after schema A/B/C/D and E?
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16:55:22bassgeishawow.
16:55:31bassgeishai visited rock box yesteray and could access everything
16:55:34bassgeishanow IT has it blocked
16:55:38bassgeishaso im on my hostspot ffs
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16:55:51bassgeishai named a custom eq, couldnt figure out how to save it.
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18:13:56scorche[09:08:51] <@carols> so a few things on rock box.
18:13:56scorche[09:08:58] <@carols> we liked the ideas page a lot.
18:13:56scorche[09:09:28] <@carols> actually, application overall looks good.
18:14:06scorche[09:10:06] <@carols> but again, we were really aggressive in accepting new orgs this year and rejecting old ones.
18:14:07scorche[09:10:15] <@carols> and i think you guys fell victim to this, unfortunately.
18:14:17scorche[09:10:51] <@carols> i would encourage you guys to apply if we have the program next year.
18:14:54scorche[09:11:09] <@carols> we just made some difficult cuts, as we do every year, really :-( [09:12:12] <@carols> again, looking over your app, it all looks very thorough.
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18:19:46VideoLAN|funmanit really means previous applications were so good that we got accepted all the time, until Google wanted to make room for new projects
18:19:57Mode"#rockbox -o VideoLAN|funman" by VideoLAN|funman (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman)
18:20:26scorchei can understand the fresh blood thing
18:20:58scorchethough, i am sure there are still a number of the old-guard accepted...
18:21:11VideoLAN|funmani saw that too
18:21:30VideoLAN|funmanin the multimedia word, vlc, libav and ffmpeg were rejected as well
18:21:44scorchewow - both vlc and ffmpeg?
18:21:54evilnickSeems (to me) that RB is mostly mature now, which might have had an effect too
18:22:04VideoLAN|funmanevilnick: freebsd is arguably mature as well
18:22:05n1swe're kind of a fringe project though :)
18:22:29AlexP_evilnick: We can't be counted as mature with you in our ranks
18:22:59n1sif we improve the android app significantly, perhaps they will see us as more interesting :)
18:29:15pixelmaAlexP_: then maybe evilnick should have written the application?
18:29:33AlexP_pixelma: A good point.
18:29:38AlexP_Although
18:29:41AlexP_maybe not :)
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20:01:56gevaertsscorche: so nothing terrible, but nothing exciting either :)
20:02:11scorcheindeed
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20:02:53gevaertsI'd say that as long as the letters PM don't appear in the response, we didn't screw up
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20:05:43monkoosbob0So RB didn't make the GSoC cut this year?
20:06:13gevaertsIndeed not
20:06:20gevaertsWe can't always win
20:06:58monkoosbob0Sorry to hear it, was looking forward to applying.
20:09:13gevaertsFeel free to help us out anyway :)
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20:09:33gevaertsOr find another organisation to apply to. There are some nice ones in the list
20:10:01funmanplease no GNU rockbox
20:10:24funmanwhich org do you think could sponsor students to work on rockbox?
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20:10:40gevaertsI don't see any, really
20:11:44funmansorry i misread, you suggested that monkoosbob0 work on another project, not on rockbox through another organisation
20:12:11gevaertsWell, I'd *like* people to work on rockbox
20:12:38gevaertsBut I'd say gsoc with another organisation is better than no open source at all
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20:30:04monkoosbob0I will help if I can. Love the project, and I've already spent the time famiarizing myself with and compiling the source. New to contributing to open source projects though, hence my interest in GSoC.
20:32:21bertrikIMO, most of the stuff with a high ratio of usefulness to ease of coding has already been done, so it's a bit hard for a new coder to contribute
20:32:39AlexPa native android interface!
20:33:02gevaerts:)
20:33:17gevaertsI don't see someone new do the prerequisites for that, to be honest
20:34:04AlexPI never saud I was being realistic :)
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21:30:57bassgeishaalright dumb question
21:31:01bassgeishawas rock box started on freenode
21:31:40bassgeishai mean i know this is the official q&a chat but if im doing a review/write-up/promotional bit i'd just like to get my stuff straight :)
21:31:48evilnickEh?
21:32:10bassgeishalike where rockbox all started
21:32:12evilnickWhat do you mean? Was it started on freenode? I'm lost
21:32:24bassgeishaya the idea, the concept
21:32:27bassgeishadevelopment etc
21:32:35gevaertsNo
21:32:55bassgeishaI'm in marketing, this is going to be my push whenever i talk about music now.
21:32:56bassgeishaokay
21:33:16bassgeishaill just put url on the header gfx. ty.
21:33:25evilnickHave a look through: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ArticlesAboutRockbox for details
21:33:50gevaertsRockbox was started in people's minds :)
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21:36:02bassgeishayea im gonna comb the site
21:36:02evilnickbassgeisha: This has a good bit about the start of RB: http://www.techworld.com.au/article/413725/rockbox_developer_interview_open_source_firmware_mp3_players/
21:36:06bassgeishamake sure what im saying is right
21:36:09bassgeishaoh thanks
21:36:14gevaertsIf you write about rockbox (or anything really), please make sure not to make stuff up, then everything will be great!
21:36:30bassgeishalol
21:36:35bassgeishano dude
21:37:10*evilnick is a little bit curious
21:37:19bassgeishaAre the good screenshots ? ive seen a couple. just curious if ot shows all the features. i basically will do a review of the Zip Clip x Rockbox vs without
21:37:32evilnickWhat are you planning on writing? How are you going to push or market Rockbox?
21:37:54bassgeishaoh and i figured out what my friend changed. the precut.
21:38:09evilnickOh, for screenshots, use the Manuals link and choose the zlip clip online manual
21:38:13bassgeishaim gonna make it sound explicative bad explicative
21:38:16bassgeishaas in awesome
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21:39:13bassgeishaoh my earlier question was how to SAVE the EQ preset once youve named it. has all these great chars but any button i seemed to hit just cancelled it.
21:39:25bassgeishaif no answer right off bat ill just wait till i get home and can access it
21:39:43evilnickI haven't used that target, but it'll be in the manual
21:39:50gevaertshttp://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipzip/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-420004.1.3
21:40:17evilnickThe best thing you can do is to read the manual. A lot. And if there's anything you don't understand then by all means ask here.
21:40:37bassgeishaoh yeah i havent gotten all the way thru it
21:41:05bassgeishaits well laid out but if i remember correctly i hated the font :X sorry the designer in me prefers san serif Arial or Helvetica ;)
21:41:24bassgeishaim #1 fan girl of you music gods.
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21:58:24monkoosbob0gavaerts: Is there a list of the organizations that made GSoC? Or did you find out about the ones you mentioned by word of mouth?
21:59:12gevaertsmonkoosbob0: well, as one of the gsoc admins for rockbox, I got an email :)
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21:59:31gevaertsmonkoosbob0: see http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013
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22:00:55monkoosbob0Hah, thanks, I've been watching the page for weeks but I didn't notice the link to accepted organizations.
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22:07:49GodEaterbassgeisha: if you're trying to write something about Rockbox, would you like to crib from an article I wrote about it a while back?
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22:10:20bassgeishayes
22:10:25bassgeishai will just block quote it
22:10:48bassgeishaany any um
22:10:55GodEaterhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10835
22:11:05bassgeishapromotional writeups or acknowledgments by other communities will be helpful
22:11:11GodEaterI hope you enjoy reading it ;)
22:11:14bassgeishayes like that. perfect. throw me what u got
22:11:48GodEaterthere are doubtless other articles out there, but that one is mine.
22:12:02GodEaterit got peer reviewed here, so it's mostly not bollocks either :D
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22:22:35bluebrotherspeaking of Android ... Qt 5.1 introduces Android (and iOS) support. Might be interesting to write a Qt app version ...
22:23:59bluebrotherany news on DevCon?
22:25:46GodEaternothing concrete
22:25:48AlexPbluebrother: I don't think there are any location possibilities yet
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22:25:56GodEaterthere are two possibles
22:26:01AlexPoh?
22:26:01GodEaterparis and gent again
22:26:17GodEaterpaumary was checking in with his university I think
22:26:28GodEaterand petur says we can always go back to Dekimo again if that falls through
22:26:41AlexPah cool
22:26:51GodEaterbut as I say - nothing's been decided yet (that I've seen)
22:26:52gevaertsI suspect I can host again too if needed
22:27:15bluebrotherso we do want to have DevCon? Haven't noticed much activity on that topic (though I might have missed it, hence the question :)
22:27:45AlexPwell I just tend to turn up and drink beer, so I'm all for it
22:27:46GodEaterof *course* we want one :D
22:27:58*GodEater turns up and helps AlexP drink beer
22:28:29GodEaterand get into technical arguments I'm not qualified to have an opinion on
22:28:32GodEaterthose are great :)
22:28:33*bluebrother wouldn't mind joining AlexP and GodEater :)
22:28:45AlexPThe more the merrier :)
22:28:52GodEaterbluebrother: see other channel for extra-curriclar invite?
22:28:59GodEaterif you fancy another trip to London
22:30:29bluebrotherGodEater: yes, seen that. The main problem is that I'm doing too much other stuff to organize a trip to London. Though I really want to do that this year :)
22:31:42GodEaterbluebrother: cancel everything else ;)
22:31:44GodEaterit's worth it
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23:13:19GodEaterbassgeisha: also - pick [Saint]'s brains on themes - he's very good at them.
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23:39:20bassgeishaohh okay
23:39:28bassgeisha;) ty!
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