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#rockbox log for 2013-05-04

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01:01:06madcat1990Yay! My ipod lives again!
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03:03:13Water2Sorry if that double-posted. Either the IRC web-client has changed or there is something screwed up on my end.
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03:25:14WaterI'm pretty sure there used to be a "past year of commits" page...?
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05:02:42WaterHey guys. I'm trying to alter the source code for the Fuze+. I want to make the volume keys operable even when device is in Hold Mode. Can anyone point me to the file(s) i'd need to work on?
05:08:57madcat1990the firmware would be a good place to start
05:09:27madcat1990firmware folder that is
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08:11:33kingsleyIs rockbox somehow related to a more general purpose linux distribution that has been ported to mp3 players?
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08:37:42bluebrotherkingsley: no
08:39:40bluebrotherit shares some code with the Ipod Linux Project, and (iirc) some code from the Linux kernel is also used. But that's about it.
08:40:54kingsleyCan rockbox access a command line shell, like ipodlinux evidently could?
08:41:34bluebrotherthere is no command line shell in Rockbox
08:42:04bluebrotherit's a music player firmware. It's not designed for anything else
08:42:15bluebrotherso there is no point in a CLI.
08:42:50bluebrotherif you want a CLI you need to check the IPL project
08:43:39bluebrotherthough afaik that's dead these days. There's freemyipod.org, but afaik that only targets the newer Ipods.
08:49:18kingsleybluebrother: Thanks for your thoughts.
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12:24:18pamaurydamned, anyone here want help me find a lcd datasheet ?
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12:25:40pamaurythe lcd+controller part is lms250gf03, which has a datasheet but most registers are undocumented, only the minimum amount of information is provided.
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14:02:15AlexPkingsley: http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/11/28/rockbox-is-not-linux/ :)
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14:45:41pamaurycool, lcd working on Zen X-Fi, unfortunately it uses a very bad setup: 32-bit/pix dotclk mode, doesn't quite fit our 16 packed RGB scheme :-/
14:46:08pamauryI wish I could find the lcd driver datasheet to change this
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20:42:11jones641What is the best device to run Rockbox on?
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21:27:08pamauryhum, the creative ZEN has the same lcd as ZEN X-Fi apparently, those two are incredibly close
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21:36:29bluebrother^nice. Now I get the "No partition found" on rolo-ing too.
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21:36:40bluebrother^which hopefully gives some additional hints ...
21:38:12pamaurybluebrother^: which device ?
21:38:43bluebrother^pamaury: mini2g.
21:38:59bluebrother^see FS #12857
21:39:00fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12857 3Data abort error on iPod Mini 2G (bugs, unconfirmed)
21:39:40bluebrother^I'm trying to figure what's different since the libfixedpoint change
21:40:59pamauryah yeah, that's tricky
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21:50:23bluebrother^wow. It booted!
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21:53:54bluebrother^ok. So 95e23de changed the order of -Wl,−−gc-sections and -T<linkerscript>. Changing the order back fixed the crash, at least for the first test I just made.
21:59:24*bluebrother^ wonders why this happens
21:59:44bluebrother^time to update the other mini and test ...
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22:03:59bluebrother^hmm. If Fade on stop / pause is enabled and I connect the mini to USB it doesn't seem to recognize the disconnect.
22:04:06bluebrother^disabling that option makes it work
22:04:18bluebrother^well, if playback was running when connecting it.
22:04:23bluebrother^but that's a different issue.
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22:10:27bluebrother^yay! Works on the other mini2g as well, and even after a hard reset
22:10:27jones642how about a quick list for rockbox like the one on the samsung galaxy devices?
22:11:27gevaertsjones642: could you describe that a bit better for those of us who don't use samsung galaxy devices?
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22:12:26jones642basically there is an option in the menu like 'Add to quick list' that adds the currently playing song to a playlist.
22:13:02bluebrother^Context menu / Playlist Catalogue / Add to Playlist
22:13:08bluebrother^there you are :)
22:13:23jones642*digs out simulator*
22:13:39bluebrother^ok. I have no idea why this change fixes things but it seems to do the trick
22:13:57bluebrother^at least it works on two devices (HDD one / CF modded one) for me
22:14:01gevaertsbluebrother^: linkers are magic. Commit and try to forget :)
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22:14:20bluebrother^I'm going to push that change and hopefully someone can explain that to me later :)
22:14:43bluebrother^gevaerts: the strange thing is that it simply changes the order of -Wl,−−gc-sections and -T<script>
22:15:01bluebrother^but as it seems the linker is behaving differently depending on the order ...
22:23:18jones642So, rockbox for android will get android-style menus and such?
22:23:33gevaertsWell, if someone does the work, yes
22:24:05gevaertsThere's a lot of code that mixes UI and lower level functionality that needs to be cleaned up though
22:24:09bluebrother^it's basically agreed that Rockbox on Android (or whatever) should have a native UI
22:24:23bluebrother^but nobody did it yet.
22:24:56jones642that would probably need alot of redesign to the WPS, etc
22:25:11gevaertsDepends
22:25:31gevaertsWe could just drop the WPS concept as it exists today for android, at least in the short term
22:26:05bluebrother^replacing our own theming engine with something lua-based might be a good idea anyway
22:27:37gevaertsBut that would by no means make the basic problems go away. Basically all code in apps/ (there are some exceptions) assumes our display code and keymap handling, all over the place
22:28:43gevaerts*keypad
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22:29:17gevaertsThat's also blocking things like my headless http-controlled streaming server port :)
22:29:50bluebrother^shouldn't the button action thing actually help with that?
22:30:03gevaertsMaybe
22:30:35gevaertsIt's hard to say without having things properly separated I'd say
22:31:16jones642wouldnt all the plugins also need to be recoded? they all use the power button to exit
22:31:43gevaertsMost plugins aren't very essential
22:32:38gevaertsWe'd keep them on the traditional devices of course, but do you e.g. need a zx spectrum emulator inside rockbox on android, when there are several native android ones available?
22:32:52bluebrother^or calculator :)
22:33:07jones642ok, maybe not *that* but the coverflow stuff is kinda usefull
22:33:34*bluebrother^ doesn't consider that useful at all :)
22:34:01gevaertsMayne, but that one could be rewritten in a *much* nicer and more integrated way in a new native android UI
22:34:33gevaertsThe only essential plugin is credits.rock, IMO :)
22:34:48bluebrother^properties.rock is also quite useful
22:35:06gevaertsWell, all right. We'll keep that one too :)
22:35:13bluebrother^though since there aren't that much size constraints on an Android device both those plugins could be integrated into Rockbox
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22:35:23bluebrother^(which they actually were at some point)
22:35:38gevaertsStill. the *entire* architecture of all that is based on assumptions that aren't very valid on android
22:35:50bluebrother^yeps
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22:47:22*bluebrother^ fears that there's still a problem left with FS #12857
22:47:22fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12857 3Data abort error on iPod Mini 2G (bugs, unconfirmed)
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