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#rockbox log for 2013-05-23

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00:00:46svanheulenhello
00:07:30svanheuleni just installed rockbox on my sansa fuze and i'm wondering which files on the internal memory I need to keep. Is it just the ".rockbox" folder?
00:07:47gevaertsBasically, yes
00:08:03svanheulencool, thanks
00:08:13gevaertsHowever, the original firmware will re-create some of the others whenever you boot it, so you might decide it's not worth the effort :)
00:09:01svanheulennot an issue if i don't boot the oringal firmware ever haha
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03:04:35*[Saint] likes saratoga's typo :)
03:04:48[Saint]"low nitrate opus"
03:05:03[Saint]It gets the Heart Foundation tick!
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14:01:13WaterHey guys. Is it okay to report a bug on a target that is designated 'unstable'? (Fuze+)
14:02:54funmanyes
14:03:04WaterThe bug is: if the volume is set to maximum, the Fuze+ freezes less than a second after playback is started.
14:03:17WaterOkay, thanks.
14:03:18funmandevs will tell you if it's worth working on this bug or not
14:03:40gevaertsFreeze issues are always worth reporting
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15:10:17Watergevaerts: It occurs on multiple audio formats. Would you say the right category is "Operating System / Drivers"?
15:10:30WaterBut category that is.
15:10:35WaterBug*
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15:24:40gevaertsWater: probably, yes
15:26:28WaterThank you. Here it is, if anyone is interested: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12863
15:27:09funmanyou should tell pamaury when he's here
15:27:43Waterty
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16:04:24 Join minouche [0] (~d590c461@www.haxx.se)
16:04:38minoucheHello world!
16:06:15minoucheGuys, did you abandoned the svn mail feeds feature? Quite a long time we don't have anymore :(
16:06:59minoucheIs it that complicated to sort of? Can I help in any way on that? :)
16:09:02gevaertsIt was supposed to be fixed I believe, but it still doesn't work, as you noticed
16:09:06*gevaerts looks at Zagor
16:09:17Zagoroh dear
16:09:36*Zagor looks around for a rock to slither under
16:09:46*gevaerts has a box full of them
16:09:54minoucheThe bot notifications is cool when you are around here, but outside of... :(
16:10:14minouche:)
16:10:24minouchequite a looooong time even
16:10:43minouchehence my use of "abandon" lol
16:10:46gevaertsYes. That's why Zagor needs this rock :)
16:10:53minouchehahaha
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16:12:10minoucheZagor: is that rock enough? :)
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16:12:56Zagor(shh, you can't see me!)
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16:13:35minoucheeven if the svn commits canot reach your mail box, my rocks can!!!! ;)
16:14:36minoucheAnd I even can count on gevaerts help on this I guess
16:24:17Zagorheh, I think I found the error..
16:24:36Zagor@rockbox.org doesn't work well in a perl string
16:25:08amayerZagor, so you need \@rockbox.org
16:25:15Zagoranything to commit, anyone?
16:25:19Zagoramayer: yup
16:26:13minoucheahhhh! coolio
16:26:35minoucheNo text or comment to change just for the test? ;)
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16:27:32minoucheThis way you can even make the news appearing to all using the commit message! ;p
16:28:56minoucheFunny missalignement in your commi table by the way!!! (on firefox that is)
16:29:26minouchethe counter line with the rest of the table I mean
16:32:29Zagorright, the time cell starts one column too early
16:32:38Zagor*countdown
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16:35:14Zagoroh, the twitter feed died feb 22 too
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16:36:19minoucheZagor: are we suposed to already get mail?
16:36:44Zagorseems it doesn't work yet
16:36:46minoucheoops 3 months
16:37:14minoucheNo problem just in case you wanted some feed :)
16:37:35Zagoroh, I ran it in the wrong dir
16:37:54minoucheduh :/
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16:39:52Zagorhmm, no that's not it either
16:41:58minoucheCan we help in any way?
16:44:26Zagorno, I need to dig in the logs to see what's going wrong
16:45:07minoucheOK, good luck on that
16:45:27*minouche is hoping strong for Zagor
16:52:42Zagorwhee!
16:53:20gevaertsWoo!
16:53:30minoucheYou get it ?
16:53:39Zagoryup
16:53:44minoucheyouppie mail!!!!!!
16:53:49*gevaerts got an email from something pretending to be cvs :)
16:54:13minoucheWell done! and lol gevaerts something about Archos ;p
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16:57:08minoucheZagor, for your effort, you should spam us with the svn changes history since svn migration!!!!! ;)
16:57:19Zagorhaha
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16:59:50Zagorand hey presto, a twitter post
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17:00:29Zagoronly slightly malformed :)
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17:43:08JordiGHI got a pretty hard lock yesterday... Rockbox was running, but I plugged it in to a USB and the screen went dark, and the OS couldn't mount it.
17:43:27JordiGHI thought it was bricked... but today, after the battery ran out (guess it was on all this time) it came back like normal.
17:43:39JordiGHIs there some sort of hard reset I can try next time?
17:43:47JordiGHThis is a Sansa Clip+.
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17:45:34ender`hold the power button for 20 seconds
17:51:09JordiGHAh, I guess I got impatient.
17:51:16JordiGHI held it for 15 or so. :-)
17:51:26funmanit doesn't always work though
17:51:37gevaertsWe generally recommend 32 :)
17:51:41gevaertss/32/30
17:51:55gevaerts15 can be a bit short
17:53:01JordiGHAlright, I'll try that if it ever happens again.
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18:35:30saratogado those buflib changes have any impact on targets that aren't very latency sensitive?
18:36:57jhMikeSthe delays can be so long that it can affect anything, perhaps not with channel swapping but definitely excessively long isr outage and audio clicks
18:38:18jhMikeSI don't even see the necessity for that code, not even for talk in hwcodec
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18:38:57saratogaah, nice find
18:39:22AlexPBloody hell, are commit emails back?
18:39:29AlexPFirst since Jan 2012 :)
18:39:43jhMikeSin the core it likely won't affect it but, yeah, pictureflow moves buffers around alot and was making things go crazy
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19:14:37pamaurybertrik: there ?
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19:14:53bertrikyes, but I need to go shopping soon
19:15:30pamaurydid you find someone for your partly broken zip ?
19:15:35Waterpamaury: Hey, someone told me i should tell you about a bug i posted for the Fuze+: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12863
19:16:19pamauryWater: do you have an example file ?
19:16:48WaterWorks on anything I've tried.
19:17:06pamauryI must say that sounds...very strange
19:17:33pamaurylooks like playback bug to me, I don't see how volume could freeze the device, but i'll try
19:17:34bertrikpamaury: no, not yet
19:17:39WaterJust a guess here, but if it doesn't happen when bass is at zero, maybe we are overloading the ouput amp...???
19:18:23pamauryit will just clip sound, there is no hardware bass support, it's all software
19:18:48bertrikpamaury: do you still live at the same address in Vitry-sur-Seine?
19:18:56pamauryyes
19:19:03WaterLet me know if you can duplicate it, (if you are gonna try soon).
19:19:46pamauryWater: ok, i'll try tomorrow I think, today i'm just back from hong-kong, still quite tired
19:20:04Waterok
19:20:58funmanpamaury: the m200v4 freezes and even overheats if volume is past a certain value iirc
19:21:17pamauryhum, ok
19:21:18funmanit probably have nothing to do with fuze+ though
19:22:00pamauryI understand the overheat part but the fuze+/imx233 has internal die temperature sensing so we could handle that, but you cannot overheat in one second
19:22:18pamaurymaybe voltage drop ?
19:34:23saratogathe m200v4 has the VRMs set wrong
19:34:34saratogawe use the lipoly settings, but it uses a 1.5v AAA battery
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19:39:09bertriksaratoga: do you know how to fix it?
19:39:44bertrikpamaury: I'll send the clip zip your way sometime in the coming week
19:40:04saratogano i never figured out anything
19:40:18bertriksaratoga: we had a quick try at one of the devcons (3/4 years ago) but without success
19:40:21saratogathe manual is vague about the settings needed, and i don't have a v4 to experiment with
19:40:39saratogai think very few of the v4 were made
19:40:41saratogathey seem quite rate
19:40:44saratogarare
19:52:40funmaniirc only domonoky has one
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19:57:03saratogai looked around for them, but couldn't find any way to get one
19:57:12saratoganow i guess it doesn't matter, no one has those players anyway
19:58:29cereal_killerhello there, I would like to add more information on the problem I have discussed yesterday (http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20130522#11:48:30)
19:59:19cereal_killerthe command line tool of windows xp found a problem, fixed it and the problem still occurs...selecting "files" in the main menu does nothing
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20:00:02cereal_killerchecked with the tool twice, no problems found on the volume...anything I can try too?
20:01:23cereal_killerdespite plugging onto the computer and rename the folder back?
20:02:12cereal_killerexcept not despite (sorry my english is not perfect)
20:10:44cereal_killeralright...after a restart it works...does this setting require a restart?
20:11:37cereal_killerthis setting = "start file browser at /"
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20:28:24pamaurybertrik: thanks
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20:37:03gevaertsjhMikeS: stop committing stuff that reduces binsize! You're single-handedly undoing *years* of work! ;)
20:37:44jhMikeSis just padding with 0's ok?
20:38:28gevaertsI'd say so :)
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20:39:02funmani prefer random data as 0's compress easily
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20:43:42wodzjhMikeS: beware of red :-)
20:45:59*jhMikeS is aware and trying to fix
20:48:50wodzDo you know any tool which can parse arm asm and annotate instructions with their execution times?
20:50:03jhMikeSthings with hardware tone controls were using the tone filters as a prescaler?? eh?
20:50:48jhMikeSsome of this sound config is still weird
20:51:48jhMikeSI guess it would just be effectively an empty call, with the callback doing nothing
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21:50:14saratogawodz: no i haven't seen any good tools for that on older arm processors, although its usually not too hard to calculate by hand
21:50:21saratogawhat are you trying to do?
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22:01:04saratogatheres also this: http://szeged.github.io/nevada/
22:01:06saratogabut its NEON only
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