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#rockbox log for 2013-07-16

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03:08:21JinxIs USB OTG even a possibility for a Sansa Clip ?
03:10:29JinxI read "UsbOnTheGoSupport" on the wiki, but it seems a bit dated and doesn't mention more than a few pieces of hardware
03:12:04Jinxwas the whole idea scrapped / deprioritized ?
03:28:22saratogasure its possible, modern devices all have software cores, so in theory they can be programmed to do almost anything (although you might need to provide your own power supply and some sort of adapter)
03:49:13Jinxah, didn't think about power issues... that could be serious for anything beyond a flash drive
03:49:19Jinxbut...
03:49:28Jinxi was under the impression that USB OTG was specific to hardware
03:50:16Jinxwhen trying to better use my android-based phone, i read that using USB OTG wasn't possible because of hardware
03:57:54saratogayou have to implement a driver for it
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04:10:27Jinxwell i hope you're correct :)
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05:32:44[Saint]kugel: ping?
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08:01:05[Saint]kugel: Is there some reason why we don't build RaaA(oA) with the API 17 platform image?
08:02:54kugelyes, nobody has bothered yet
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09:11:53jlbiasinipamaury: ping
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09:23:26jlbiasiniis there a way to set a context keymaps for one type of setting? we have this new touchpad sensitivity setting and it would be nice to have a context for this setting only where the hard button could be use to reset/change the setting in case the user set a too low value
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11:06:44pamauryjlbiasini (logs): on the settings, I don't know, I have to have a look at this
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13:11:42jlbiasinipamaury: are you there?
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13:20:18pamauryjlbiasini_: yes
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13:48:57jlbiasini_pamaury: I don't understand the change you made on the fuze+ touchpad setting activation
13:49:14jlbiasini_and could you push a few more commit for me?
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13:51:30jlbiasini_pamaury: g#495
13:51:33fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #495 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/495 : 3[Manual] Document soft lock for FM by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/95/495/4)
13:51:49jlbiasini_g#508
13:51:51fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #508 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/508 : 3[Fuze+][lang] keymaps hint update by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/08/508/5)
13:52:04jlbiasini_and g#513
13:52:08fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #513 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/513 : 3[Fuze+][Keymaps] keymaps for radio and recorder update by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/13/513/2)
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13:56:30jlbiasini_pamaury? ^
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14:58:09pamauryjlbiasini: can I trust your commits, you tested them ?
14:58:26jlbiasiniyes I did.
14:59:12jlbiasiniwhat was wrong with the activation on fuze+ I that you rewrited it
14:59:15jlbiasini?
14:59:39jlbiasinilet me just recheck a last time if you prefer
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15:01:08pamauryjlbiasini: I didn't understand, I pushed something to gerrit and then you pushed something else ?
15:01:32jlbiasini?
15:01:48jlbiasiniwhat are you talking about?
15:03:38pamauryah this one, because I didn't like that the change was not made in the thread
15:04:31jlbiasiniyes so I abandonned it that's why it appears so
15:04:43jlbiasinibut it's the old version
15:05:52pamaurythe reason to do it in the thread is 1) make sure it doesn't interfere with the thread 2) put slow i2c in the thread, in case it crashes or timeout, it won't freeze the UI
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15:07:30jlbiasiniah ok I didn't know about that, I was more guessing than actually understanding what I was doing there
15:09:05jlbiasiniregarding the setting for what I understood from the code, if we want ours own mapping on a setting screen we have to write ours own interface, like for the other specials setting
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15:13:24jlbiasinipamaury: thank you for the push
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15:19:00jlbiasinipamaury: the last one give use a stable keymaps for fm. As record keymaps is not available for fuze+ I reset the short bottomleft and right to preset jump. Also the preset key is now working
15:29:32jlbiasiniwho do we have to ring to get a fuze+ manual rebuild? The one on the site isn't up to date anymore
15:31:34pamauryI don't know
15:32:47jlbiasinianyway no urge I have to check the application plugins manual to complete the last missing part
15:33:24jlbiasiniand after that are we going stable, or what?
15:35:41pamauryI hope, just wait for some more test on the new bootloader, apparently someone said alarm wake up doesn't work
15:40:13pixelmathe manuals are only built once a day and are updated then (sometime during the European night hours). If not broken you'll have a new manual by tomorrow in the morning
15:43:17jlbiasinipamaury: talking aboutthe bootloader if you have to make some more change on it, you could take the chance to implement the booloader option we talk about a long time ago (where one could set if he want to boot from sd or from intern memory
15:43:59jlbiasiniI mean you already add the possibility to choose on boot but it would be perfect to be able to save the choice
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15:44:39jlbiasinithat way rockbox would be nearly unbreakable on the fuze+ even after an intern memory defect
15:49:59[Sinner]well...filesystem errors. if the internal memory dies, it won't help. :)
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15:56:25jlbiasinii meant inter storege
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21:12:32wodzpamaury: something is not quite right with hwstub after refactoring (or I can't figure out how to build it)
21:13:37wodzpamaury: it seems that main.c is missing
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21:47:07wodzpamaury: Do I assume correctly that hwstub works with interrupts turned off?
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22:21:53pamaurywodz: yes, hum strange
22:22:34pamauryindeed, missing main.c
22:23:33pamaurydone
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23:03:35wodzpamaury: btw. mem rw + jump should be enough to simulate hw debugger and interface this to gdb
23:04:05pamaurywodz: yes, I use this to load arbitrary code, there is the hwstub_load tool for this )
23:05:42pamaurythat the one reason I add jump
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23:06:38wodzpamaury: what happens if some write aborts? There doesn't seem to be interrupt vector table present.
23:07:07pamauryit will crash/hang, I thought about implementing this but never did
23:07:13pamauryyou're welcome to do it :)
23:08:56pamauryit's not complicated, just never did it. Also it would be better if the stub could relocate itself to the right address, I will need this soon
23:09:07pamauryI might implment this
23:09:33pamauryI'll have a look at the vector if you want
23:09:33wodzFirst I would like to port stub to rk27xx.
23:09:38pamauryok
23:10:18pamauryif you feel something is still stmp specific, tell me; but I think it should be ok now. Just one *BIG* warning: usb_drv_recv *IS* blocking, contrary to rockbox
23:10:36wodzpamaury: You might look at rk27xx crt0.S - bootloader relocates itself
23:10:44pamauryimx233 too :)
23:11:18pamauryBut as you see I made the crt0.S rather minimal !
23:11:26wodztrue
23:11:38pamaurynot sure it erase bss !
23:12:37wodzpamaury: it clears bss
23:15:25wodzHmm, on rk27xx the stub will not fit in iram.
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