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#rockbox log for 2013-08-22

00:00:00Insiderit works!!!!
00:00:07InsiderVolume is now DECENT!
00:00:17Insiderpamaury YOU ARE MY HEROOOOOOO! :)
00:00:26pamaurythanks :)
00:00:43pamaurycould you give me the link where you found the american version of the firmware ?
00:00:46InsiderFUCK OFF THAT SHITTY EUROPEAN NORMATIVE!!!
00:02:28Insiderfor sure
00:03:07Insideryou have to go on the standard firmware download page
00:03:19Insiderthen you have to select 'Nord America'
00:03:28Insiderfrom the combobox on top-right of the screen
00:04:06Insiderthat is, you will redirect to the american firmware download page
00:04:11jlbiasini_pamaury: g#569
00:04:14fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #569 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/569 : 3touchpad: Disable touchpad on softlock. by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/69/569/20)
00:04:17Insiderthis one: http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=213&CatName=MP3+Players&subCatID=231&subCatName=MIDI+Keyboards&prodID=20866&prodName=ZEN+X-Fi3&bTopTwenty=1&VARSET=prodfaq:PRODFAQ_20866,VARSET=CategoryID:213
00:04:26jlbiasini_is corrected now
00:04:48pamauryInsider: ah indeed, pretty easy after all, thanks
00:04:57Insiderthe firmware.sb is slight different is size
00:04:58Borg^QueenI'm going to restore the ipod from an image backup I made. Now I'm assuming 1: I should them mount and copy .rockbox to the second partition 2 unmount and install the firmware from cli as root
00:05:00Insiderfew bytes
00:05:04Borg^QueenIs all this correct?
00:05:06Insiderin *
00:06:18Insiderok, it's 0:06 here, I'm going to sleep now.
00:06:29InsiderThanks very much pamaury!
00:06:42Insiderpamaury - Creative 1 : 0 :)
00:08:03Insiderbelieve me the volume level 31 in the european version corresponds to the level 23 of the American one!
00:08:28Insideror maybe lower enough
00:08:40Insiderthey are crazy!
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00:09:45Borg^Queenok the ipod has sdb1 and 2 I should copy .rockbox to p2?
00:12:14Insidergood night!
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00:12:20Borg^Queengn
00:12:22gevaertswell, the first partition doesn't have a normal filesystem on it
00:12:46Borg^Queenok just checking. I want to see where I went wrong.
00:13:26Borg^Queenthis is why I always make backups
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00:35:45jlbiasini_pamaury: I'm going to bed we'll see tomorrow for those patch. Also I'm wondering about the menu and option...
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00:59:19Borg^Queenok I've restored the ipod, installed rockbox and then the loader, all it well. However I can't change to the font I want.
00:59:41Borg^QueenI can select it but it doesn't load. I can the fonts from rockbox.
00:59:52fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 81f97f6, 217 builds, 20 clients.
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01:00:22amayerBorg^Queen: are you using the default theme?
01:00:45Borg^Queenyes, I haven't changed it
01:01:58Borg^Queenok well, it just erased everything again and now I can't copy anything.
01:03:35amayer...what did you erase?
01:05:30Borg^QueenI didn't erase anything
01:06:07fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3Build round completed after 375 seconds.
01:06:27Borg^Queenrb crashed
01:06:48amayerif rockbox crashed and you cannot get it to respond hold menu + select to reboot it
01:07:03Borg^QueenI did
01:07:12Borg^Queenwhile it loads, I can mount it
01:07:32amayerso did you get it to mount or not
01:08:16Borg^QueenIt was umounted, I was looking at it, put it down to type, picked it up it was off, turned it back on, connected it doesn't show up in fstab.
01:13:58Borg^Queenthe bloody cable is broken!
01:14:16Borg^QueenLooks like the work of my niece's bloody cat.
01:15:17fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision a122b52, 217 builds, 20 clients.
01:15:56Borg^Queenok installing themes
01:16:59Borg^Queenis there just a zip of all 51 themes?
01:21:27fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3Build round completed after 370 seconds.
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02:23:25Borg^Queenhi people now I have this *panic& stkov jq
02:33:02amayeris that on your nano 2g?
02:33:09Borg^Queenyes
02:33:26amayerdid you try the menu + select to reboot?
02:33:34Borg^Queenyes
02:33:41amayerit sounds like you messed up while installing something if your having this much trouble
02:33:59Borg^QueenI don't think so
02:34:27amayerdid you use emcore or does the 2g have a rockbox boot loader?
02:34:39amayeri only have a iClassic
02:35:02Borg^Queenrockbox boot
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02:36:48Borg^Queendoesn't show in fstab
02:37:21Borg^Queenwhen I disconnected it, it seems fine, when I plug it in, it shows connect
02:37:27Borg^Queenbut no entry in fstab
02:38:20Borg^Queenwhen I disconnect it now it continues to show the usb icon, I have reboot it
02:38:46amayercan you run "dmesg | tail" and see what that says
02:38:54amayer(after plugging in your 2g)
02:39:23Borg^Queencan't set config #1, error -71
02:39:50amayerwell now we just need someone that knows something about USB
02:40:24Borg^Queenresearching now....
02:41:22amayerwhat distro are you using?
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02:43:28amayerBorg^Queen: do you have another machine to try connecting it to?
02:43:34Borg^Queenthis happens in Fed, ark, pclos, and a few others.
02:43:39Borg^Queenyes, 17
02:43:46Borg^QueenI have a bank of test computers
02:43:55amayerdo you have another ipod connector cable to test with?
02:44:06amayer just want to rule out a hardware issue here
02:44:46Borg^Queenyes, I have a box full of dead mac stuff with new cables. Firs thing the "geniuses " tell people to do.
02:45:04Borg^QueenI also have another working ipod n g2, untouched, the cable works
02:45:40Borg^QueenI'm going to restore the ipod and start again.
02:46:16amayeri was going to propose that idea but it seems kinda overkill. it is probably the best thing at this point tho
02:46:32amayerBorg^Queen: you are restoring the ipod on a windows machine correct?
02:46:59Borg^Queenno, from an image file I created before I started playing with it
02:47:01amayerit needs to be FAT file system and mac puts AFP or what ever on it
02:47:13Borg^QueenI know
02:47:18amayerjust making sure
02:47:27Borg^QueenI know, thanks.
02:47:46Borg^QueenDon't let my few words, put you off. I'm just direct.
02:48:16amayer*shrugs* didnt phaze me at all
02:49:12Borg^QueenIt does some people. Just wanted to be sure.
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03:04:38Borg^Queenok got it to connect and now I'm restoring. Let me go through how I installed.
03:05:40Borg^Queen connect the ipod, mounted the vfat partition, copied .rockbox into it. Umounted, went to root cli and ran ipodpatcher
03:05:50Borg^Queenit said it was successful.
03:05:56Borg^QueenWhat did I miss?
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03:08:34Borg^Queenanyone?
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03:20:24Borg^Queenaccording to the instructions off the site, the above is correct. Can anyone confirm that?
03:24:36Borg^Queenvery well then gentlemen, the published review will reflect this.
03:24:48Borg^QueenAnd remember it was your choice to be silent.
03:24:50Borg^Queengn
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03:49:24[Saint]Gah!
03:49:29[Saint]Well...that's shit.
03:50:03[Saint]Apparently we'll get a crap review from someone because a daily was suggested for N2G and apparently no one remembered to mention that USB is broken.
03:50:06[Saint]...fun times.
03:56:30*[Saint] really feels sorry for Borg^Queen
03:57:20[Saint]Hours and hours of pissing around to get nowhere. No one catching that makes that looks really bad.
03:58:14[Saint]amayer: for future reference, N2G USB is absolutely fucked in git head
03:58:31[Saint]The user did absolutely nothing wrong, everything went as it should.
03:58:55amayerdidnt we fix it last week
03:59:02[Saint]Fuck no.
03:59:14amayerwell thats no good...
03:59:29[Saint]Its been broken for ~2 years
03:59:30amayer*guilty of not reading all the irc logs*
03:59:43amayerso what version should she have used?
03:59:52amayer(incase she decides to come back)
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04:00:09[Saint]one of the releases from the archived release page.
04:00:53[Saint]that's going to "just work". If a release exists for it, its obviously before it was cut back to unstable.
04:01:23[Saint]Note: note blaming you for anything
04:01:35[Saint](If you don't own the target, its not going to be obvious to you)
04:03:57[Saint]...and the user was more than slightly dickish about how it ended, but I suspect that was based on the frustration of compiling for hours to get nowhere.
04:04:41amayerit did seem kinda rude after we tried to help her
04:05:05amayeri left my computer and when i got back there was that note and she was gone
04:05:39[Saint]I suspect the user was used to more populated IRC channels that don't almost completely fall off the map when Europe goes to bed.
04:05:49[Saint]Bad timimg.
04:07:32[Saint]Alternatively they may not have been used to IRC at all and were initially encouraged by the almost immediate response to the initial query.
04:07:54[Saint]Pleasing users is hard. It just made me a little sad that this particular case was so preventable.
04:11:23[Saint]Hmmmm.
04:11:39*[Saint] sees a lack of ArchLinuxSimpleGuideToCompiling
04:15:19[Saint]I guess it would pretty much just consist of "install core dev metapackage"
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08:05:57copper[Saint_]: what review was Borg^Queen talking about?
08:06:02copperHead-Fi review?
08:06:42coppershe was already here before I got to bed last nigh
08:07:21coppernight*
08:08:28coppershe also said "gn" at 3:24am which seems to indicate that she's european too
08:08:55copperand her hostmask says ark linux, not arch linux
08:09:18copper"Ark Linux is a Linux distribution designed especially for desktop use, primarily for people without prior Linux experience. Its main goal is ease of use, and the inclusion of many tools end users will need."
08:09:25coppertotally different from Arch Linux
08:10:44copper"Status: Discontinued"
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09:01:14copperalso, I don't know what to do about the %?if() +1 bug
09:01:25copperif it gets fixed, it will break every single theme
09:23:52copperer, I don't even understand what it does
09:24:15copper%?if(%pv, >, 0)<higher than 0|lower or equal to zero>
09:24:22copper^^ that works as expected
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09:54:34copperI edited http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS with notes about %?if() and %ss()
09:59:28copperI'm surprised there was no changelog field
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11:04:23JdGordoncopper: what %if +1 bug?
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11:15:37copperJdGordon: if you display %mp, it will show "0" when playback is stopped
11:15:55copperhowever, to test for "playback stopped", you need to do: %?if(%mp, =, 1)
11:16:30copperalso, %?if(%ss(0, 2, %St(font), number), =, 15) returns true when the font is set to "14-Nimbus"
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11:19:12copper(and false with 15-Adobe-Helvetica)
11:24:13copperif the bug were to be fixed, I guess a solution to theme breakage would be to require new / updated themes to put a specific piece of code in the wps/sbs/fms that "acknowleges" the new behavior
11:24:39copperso that you wouldn't have to require every single theme to be updated
11:24:55JdGordonhe %mp one sounds like a real bug
11:25:14copperboth are
11:25:23JdGordonerr... actually
11:25:42JdGordoni dunno... send an email or open a bug and bug me next week
11:25:50JdGordonI'll have lots of time and hopefully motivation
11:25:55JdGordoni.e unemploeyed! :)
11:26:04copperuh… congrats? :P
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11:29:55JdGordongot about 2 weeks between jobs
11:35:58copperhttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12891
11:36:15copperg#12891
11:36:23copperno worky?
11:36:37copperer
11:36:40copperfs#12891
11:36:42fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12891 3%?if() evaluates enumeration indexes and arbitrary numbers to (number + 1) (bugs, unconfirmed)
11:36:45copperthere you go
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12:19:53wodzPlease take a look at g#576.
12:19:56fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #576 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/576 : 3lua: Switch memory allocator from dl to tlsf by Marcin Bukat (changes/76/576/1)
12:20:42wodzAs we compile tlsf as a lib I think it is wise to use it instead of dozen of other memory allocators in our codebase.
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14:36:57wodzI wanted to try FS #11922 as it is reported to stress allocator heavily but downloaded file seems to be corrupted (a bunch of 0x0a 0x0d at beginning and also file seems to be truncated). Can someone test if the problem is on my end or FS is corrupted?
14:36:58fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11922 3New Lua game: pixel-painter (patches, unconfirmed)
14:41:42pamaurywodz: which file ?
14:42:25wodzpixel-painter.lua
14:43:19pamaurylatest version contains a lot of new lines at the beginning indeed and seems truncated
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14:43:52wodzthe very first looks the same for me
14:44:03wodz*very first version
14:44:13copperyay, updated all 12 themes
14:45:16wodzhmm, since on FS there is no single complain about broken file I guess FS db got mad
14:47:46pamaurywodz: maybe ask if Zagor has a backup ? it's not very good if FS got corrupted
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14:49:18wodzpamaury: good idea
14:49:22wodzZagor: ping
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14:51:50SovonHaldercopper: do I need to upgrade ?
14:54:38SovonHalderI'm asking this cause the screenshots have the Codec/Bitrate at last line. If I upgrade, I will still have the 'Next Song' when I switch status bar to top/bottom, right ?
14:54:48copperyes
14:54:53copperdo upgrade
14:55:33copperunpack (choose "overwrite"), set a theme, turn off, turn on, set "status bar" to "top" or "bottom"
14:56:30SovonHalderdoing it...thank you
14:57:20copperwhich reminds me
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15:02:31copperFS #12892
15:02:31fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12892 3backdrop doesn't load when selecting a new theme that was just copied via USB (bugs, unconfirmed)
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15:07:02copperamayer: also, maybe you could filter out downloads from web crawlers / bots from the download count
15:08:36Zagorwodz: I doubt the db is so surgically corrupted as to just remove one bug
15:08:46Zagorwhen did it dissappear?
15:11:42wodzZagor: I am not saying that only this particular fs entry got corrupted. I just stepped at this issue so I am reporting.
15:13:44Zagorok. I'm not sure what I can do. restoring a db backup obviously means erasing all changes since then. I need more details before making such a drastic move.
15:15:01wodzZagor: Acknowledged. I doubt more details are easy to get.
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15:21:49wodzZagor: Acknowledged. I doubt more details are easy to get.
15:24:50amayercopper: great idea
15:24:57amayer*puts it in notes*
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15:26:32copperamayer: I've already identified these User Agent bits that identify known bots: 'Baiduspider|bingbot|ezooms.bot|Googlebot|YandexBot|WBSearchBot|Slurp|msnbot'
15:26:56amayercopper: thanks
15:26:57copperit's not an exhaustive list though
15:27:10copperbut it filters out a good portion of the bots
15:27:37copperI didn't look, but I'm sure there's a better list somewhere online
15:28:14pamaurywodz: I have forget your rk27xx hwstub patch, i'll have a look as soon as I'm done with this task, let's hope i'll have some time
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15:30:04wodzpamaury: thanks
15:30:24jlbiasinipamaury: ping
15:31:05pamauryby the way, I have vastly improved the tools for register maps and analysis, I now have a Qt GUI which can explore your register map and you can load data from a data dump and write analyser to display useful information. I plan to integrate hwstub in it so you can do it live and even tweaks parameters on the fly
15:31:08pamauryjlbiasini: pong
15:31:42jlbiasinipamaury: I've made alot of clean up on g#569
15:31:44fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #569 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/569 : 3touchpad: Disable touchpad on softlock. by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/69/569/25)
15:32:16jlbiasiniBut I still have a little problem...
15:32:27copperjlbiasini: I'm looking forward to see that merged
15:32:31copperseeing*
15:33:10jlbiasiniI've taken out the touchdev part ad we didn't have to turn the hold_Button target anymore
15:34:17pamauryI don't understand your last sentence
15:34:18jlbiasiniso now I have touchdev_enable called in action.c and define at driver level. It work fine, but it breaks the simulator compilation
15:34:57jlbiasiniwe had those firmware/touchdev.c/h files
15:35:43jlbiasiniI took those out of the patch as they where mainly there to control button_hold target
15:36:17pamaurythere is a slight indent issue in action.c it seems, on the unlock part. Yes that was expected, maybe you should protect that part with SIMULATOR: #if defined(HAVE_TOUCHPAD) && !defined(SIMULATOR)
15:36:47pamauryotherwise the patch is fine
15:36:57jlbiasiniok, thanks that's what I was looking for
15:37:06pamaurydid you ask someone for the settings part ? I'm not too familiar with those
15:37:20jlbiasiniand I nearly done with the touscreen one
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15:37:50pamauryI'll test on the xfi2 (touchscreen) as soon as I fix the memory instability issue, hopefulyl today with my patcher
15:39:45jlbiasiniit works, else the idea is so: if we don't have softlock we don't do anything, if we have we add a touchpad menu to group all the touchpad setting: sensitivity, disable on lock, later lock on touch on softlok.
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15:40:39jlbiasinion the touchscreen patch it's the same exept that the setting get grouped in the already existing touscreen menu
15:40:56jlbiasinipamaury: great if you can test it
15:41:53jlbiasinicopper: me too I've been struggling with finding a way to implement this cleanly for weeks now!
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15:42:57jlbiasiniand just after the lock only touchpad on lock will follow
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15:45:32jlbiasinipamaury: another thing I wanted to tell you is that I find usb much more stable on my new/old only sd fuze+ than it was on the sd+intern this also before you commited all those changes yesterday. So I thought perhaps the instability I was experiencing is related to interference between intern and microsd?
15:50:47pamaurywhat kind of instability ?
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16:00:15pamauryI know that sounds like self satisfaction but my new generic firmware patcher is definitely awesome
16:03:04pamauryinteresting, the zenxfi3 is driving its lcd at 30MHz, I thought that it was 24MHz
16:09:56jlbiasinipamaury: usb connection was dying from time to time. Some time even with partition corruption
16:10:57jlbiasinisorry I never gave much attention because there was still the possibility to use the OF
16:10:58pamauryah yes, this one, I don't know why it happen
16:12:04jlbiasiniwell now It didn't happen even once...
16:12:36jlbiasiniAnd I didn't a lot of transfer for testing and refilling my 64gb card
16:13:27pamauryinteresting
16:14:15pamauryi'll explore this issue with a ramdisk: if it still happen it means usb storage is at fault, otherwise it's the storage layer
16:23:55*pamaury definitely needs to write an updater tool for the Zen X-Fi2, the creative tool sucks
16:25:41jlbiasinipamaury: for touchscreen the patch is g#577
16:25:43fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #577 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/577 : 3touchscreen: softlock touch settings implementation by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/77/577/2)
16:29:06pamauryhaha, more awesomeness ! Zen X-Fi2 OF hacked :-[
16:51:27jlbiasinipamaury: I just notice somthing weird but pehraps it's normal: If I copy to sd (bootloader mode 1 file it goes around 4 MB/s if I copy 2 files simultanly the total of their transfer rate is above 5MB/s
16:53:48jlbiasinii'm in bootloader usb
16:54:33pamauryare you sure it's the effectivate write rate ? linux does a lot of caching
16:57:27jlbiasinithat's the problem
16:57:53jlbiasiniI tried with 3 simultaneous and I got an extra 0,5 MB/s
16:58:26jlbiasiniis there a way to know?
16:58:53copperdd if=file of=/media/fuze/file bs=$(( 8192 * 1024 )) iflag=direct oflag=direct
16:59:06pamaurynot sure if you can disable caching, the best way to know raw speed is dd, you can't beat that in theory
16:59:39copperecho 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
16:59:49copperbut dd is better
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17:02:32jlbiasinican I dd a directory?
17:03:13jlbiasinioh wait I'm going to test with videos
17:03:53jlbiasinicopper: what are bs=$(( 8192 * 1024 )) parameters
17:04:07copperblocksize
17:04:11copper8MiB
17:04:22Zagorwhy not just write bs=8M ?
17:04:27copperI never know whether the M suffix means 1000 or 1024
17:04:54copperM=1024
17:04:55ZagorM = 1024 MB = 1000
17:04:57copperMB=1000
17:04:59copperblah
17:05:02Zagor:)
17:05:03coppersee what I mean
17:05:06jlbiasiniMy question would be: are you sure, I don't want to kill my 64 mb parttion
17:05:14coppersure about what?
17:05:27copperthat command just copies a file
17:05:29jlbiasiniabout the block size parameter to give
17:05:39copperyes it's safe
17:05:41Tornethe blocksize doesn't make any difference to what it copies or where to
17:05:47jlbiasiniok
17:05:55Torneit won't copy more than the source contains
17:05:59copperlarger block sizes are faster
17:06:06copperand what Torne said
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17:06:33jlbiasiniis there a time parameter in dd or should I add it at the beginning of the command
17:06:38jlbiasini?
17:07:02copperyou don't need that
17:07:09copperdd will output the speed when it's done
17:07:15jlbiasinigreat!
17:07:37copperin megabytes per second (1000 not 1024, all transfer speeds are indicated in powers of 10, not 2)
17:07:55copper(don't ask me why)
17:09:18copper48564892 bytes (49 MB) copied, 0.112397 s, 432 MB/s
17:09:22copper^^ like that
17:09:40copper(yes that's from an SSD)
17:10:03Tornebecause powers of ten are correct, unfortunately
17:10:12copper?
17:10:18copperboth are "correct"
17:10:26copperthey're just different units
17:10:28Tornetransmission speeds have always been in powers of ten, not two
17:10:38copperthat's what I said (or meant to say)
17:10:39Torneeven before "mebibyte" and friends were invented as terms
17:11:37Tornebefore people invented the binary prefix terms, it was entirely correct to say that transferring 1MB of data at 1MB/s took slightly more than one second :)
17:11:56Torne..that ridiculousness being why people invented those ugly terms in the first place
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17:12:14copperit seems like the MiB debate will never end
17:12:39jlbiasinipamaury: I still have the volume problem on the f+: still sound even mute
17:13:05Tornei maintain that as far as disk capacity goes, you should only use units that are a multiple of 512
17:13:34Tornewhich means you can use decimal gigabytes and above, but not decimal megabytes or kilobytes ;)
17:13:46Tornesince it's impossible for any modern disk technology to give you 1,000,000 bytes of data
17:14:17copperit's 4096 with large HDDs now
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17:14:38TorneThe addressing is still in 512 byte units
17:14:44Tornethe implementation is irrelevant
17:14:44pamauryjlbiasini: I don't understand what you mean
17:15:02copperTorne: with sectors of 4096 B?
17:15:07Torneyes
17:15:09jlbiasiniwhen volume is minimum I still here sound
17:15:36jlbiasini* hear! :/
17:15:41Torneyou still request data based on its 512-byte-sector address
17:15:44copperI thought there was no mute function
17:16:06jlbiasinimute = minimum
17:16:54copperminimum isn't mute
17:17:16copperTorne: "Hard drives configured with 4096-byte physical sectors with 512-byte firmware are referred to as Advanced Format 512e, or 512 emulation drives."
17:17:32copperI don't think that applies to "Advanced Format 4K Native"
17:18:09pamaurythe driver doesn't have a mute function and it's unclear whether minimum means mute
17:18:27pamauryfor playback that's a non issue, since you have such a large volume range
17:18:50pamaurythere is a problem with radio because we don't use the radio volume and thus have a much smaller volume range
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17:19:55jlbiasiniI means that the minimal limit is too high. Even with the lowest volume possible I still have sounnd
17:20:30pamaurywith usual playback ?
17:21:37pamauryi'll see what I can do
17:22:48jlbiasiniyes, setting resetted, and the minimal is rather loud actually (I have a akg 451 it's a loud headphone set)
17:22:50fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #451 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/451 : 3lcd-common: Remove unused function lcd_puts_style(). by Thomas Martitz (changes/51/451/2)
17:22:59jlbiasinilol
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17:24:10copper111 dB/mW
17:24:15copperthat's loud indeed
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17:25:07coppersigh
17:25:24pamauryok, understood, i'll fix that ;)
17:25:37Tornecopper: it's not clear that 4k-native drives are addressed any different; the ATA spec is vague and talks about long logical sectors being 520 bytes or similar (for spare-word support)
17:25:40fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #520 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/520 : 3Plugins: text_editor PLA integration by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/20/520/3)
17:25:41jlbiasinicopper: dd if=file of=/media/fuze/file bs=$(( 8192 * 1024 )) iflag=direct oflag=direct doesn't work it complains about the file I gave him as not being a valid argument
17:25:57copperwhat was your command?
17:26:14copperno
17:26:28copperreplace if=file with if=<your_actual_filename>
17:26:33jlbiasinidd if=../Sailing\ To\ Philadelphia/01.What\ It\ Is.flac of=/media/jean-louis/1622-E34B/ bs=$(( 8192 * 1024 )) iflag=direct oflag=direct
17:26:35copperdon't pass the file as an argument
17:27:27copperwhat's the error message
17:27:36copperoh
17:27:39copperof= is wrong
17:27:47copperyou need to specify an output filename
17:27:55copperof=/media/jean-louis/1622-E34B/blah
17:28:29jlbiasiniimpossible to open <file> : invalid argument (freely translated from rench
17:28:34jlbiasini*french)
17:28:39copperpaste it in french please
17:28:46copper(I'm french and so is pamaury)
17:28:55jlbiasinidd: impossible d'ouvrir ../Sailing To Philadelphia/01.What It Is.flac: Argument invalide
17:28:58jlbiasiniyouhou!
17:29:23coppertry ls -lah ../Sailing\ To\ Philadelphia/01.What\ It\ Is.flac
17:30:17jlbiasini-rw-r−−r−− 1 jean-louis jean-louis 132M nov. 15 2011 ../Sailing To Philadelphia/01.What It Is.flac
17:30:28coppermeh
17:30:32copperlocale fuckery maybe?
17:30:51coppertry putting LC_ALL='en_US-UTF-8' in front of your dd command
17:31:24Tornecopper: hm, yes, in fact the number of words transferred doesn't appear to be limited at all :)
17:31:30Torneexcept by the available space in IDENTIFY
17:31:47Torneyou can probably claim to have anywhere from 1 to 4billion words per sector ;)
17:31:53Tornewhich is pretty great.
17:31:56copperor LC_ALL=en_US-UTF8 or LC_ALL=en_US.utf8
17:31:58Tornei want a disk with an odd number. :)
17:32:08copperTorne: you're sick
17:32:09copper;)
17:32:41jlbiasinicopper: still no luck
17:32:47Tornebut in any case, requiring muiltiples of 4096 would also rule out decimal gigabytes, but decimal *terabytes* are still fine. ;P
17:33:00copperjlbiasini: just copy the damn file in your local directory and rename it to "foo"
17:33:02Torne244140625 4096-byte sectors in a decimal terabyte. ;)
17:33:14copperuh
17:33:15copperwait
17:33:22copperjlbiasini: on what kind of mount is that file?
17:33:26copperramdisk? tmpfs?
17:33:49jlbiasinidawn! a crypted one!!!
17:33:54jlbiasinidoes it matter?
17:33:56copperno
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17:34:09copperdrop the iflag=direct and try again
17:34:13copperkeep the oflag=direct
17:34:18jlbiasiniit's in a ecryptfs directory
17:34:28copperI don't know that one
17:34:45copperbut I suspect iflag=direct is the problem
17:34:55copperdd just sucks at giving meaningful error messages
17:34:56jlbiasiniit shouldn't be a problem as long as it is mount it is supposed to be transparent
17:34:57TorneYeah, you can't read the input directly if it's not on a real block device
17:35:08TorneRight, but "direct" is requesting to bypass the filesystem :)
17:35:25Torneit's saying "get the FS to tell me, up front, the block numbers to read, then i'll read them myself"
17:35:35Torneand that's impossible if you're using a FUSE encryption fs
17:35:41Tornesince the raw blocks don't exist in plaintext form
17:35:51copperTorne: works on my luks mount
17:36:03Tornecopper: yes, because luks is using dm-crypt, which exposes a real block device in the kernel
17:36:08Torneecryptfs is a userspace filesystem
17:36:09copperI see
17:36:33jlbiasiniok I will copy it on a ssd partition
17:36:36Tornejust drop iflag=direct
17:36:41Torneno, just don't use iflag=direct
17:36:42jlbiasinithat isn't encrypted
17:36:44Torneit won't make any difference
17:36:48jlbiasiniok
17:36:57copperunless the crypt mount is slower than a Fuze+ :P
17:37:40copperthis is why my copy script first tests whether iflag=direct is accepted
17:37:41jlbiasinithe idea was to go on an unencrypted to have it work in the first place...
17:38:44jlbiasiniand do I have to plug my player first? :D
17:39:12copperThat would… help.
17:39:30jlbiasininope even without iflag=direct still doesn't work
17:39:34copperwth
17:40:01copperhow hard can it be
17:40:32*copper strongly dislikes localized systems
17:40:46Tornelocales shouldn't ahve anything to do with it other than the messages it prints.
17:40:49copperchange '.' to ',' and BAM, shit breaks
17:41:00Torneand LANG=C LC_ALL=C is the "universal" fix there
17:41:06copperright
17:41:09Torneto just nuke locales completely for an invocation :)
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17:42:03copperdid you mount the Fuze+?
17:42:08jlbiasiniok if I copy the file to /
17:42:22copperwith user rights?
17:42:32coppermount -t user
17:42:34copperer
17:42:37coppermount - o user
17:42:40coppermount -o user
17:42:56jlbiasiniand dd it from there (ie from my unencrypted ssd) it works and bug later on: dd: impossible d'ouvrir /media/jean-louis/1622-E34B/: est un dossier
17:43:12copperyes I told you to set an output filename
17:43:17copperof=/media/jean-louis/1622-E34B/file
17:43:31copperif = input file
17:43:34copperof = output file
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17:43:46coppernot "output directory"
17:44:03Tornedd does not behave at all like cp, it will not guess what you mean
17:44:03copperdd is a raw tool
17:44:04jlbiasiniit works!!
17:44:10copperyay
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17:44:45jlbiasiniso it was really that encryption stuff
17:44:58copperit should have worked without iflag=direct
17:45:19copperunless I'm missing something really fucked up here
17:45:21jlbiasiniit didn't! I even remove oflag=direct
17:45:26copperIFLAG
17:45:28coppernot OFLAG
17:45:37Tornedid you have the right filenames/etc then, though?
17:45:58Tornewithout iflag=direct it should just be doing open(), read(), close(), which should work regardless of FUSE/etc
17:46:00copper15:34:10 UTC <copper> drop the iflag=direct and try again
17:46:01copper15:34:15 UTC <copper> keep the oflag=direct
17:46:28copperiflag = input flag
17:46:32copperoflag = output flag
17:46:32jlbiasiniok 4,0MB/s now let's try 2 files together
17:46:35copperif that wasn't obvious
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17:47:00jlbiasiniI tryed first without iflag
17:47:41jlbiasiniThen it didn't work and I thought hey what's the heck let's nuke all those parameter that I don't understand anyway!
17:47:56copperwhat
17:48:18copperwhat's the point of giving you a command line for a specific purpose (measuring throughput), if you're just going it ignore it all
17:48:19jlbiasini:D
17:48:45copperwhat command exactly returned "4,0MB/s"?
17:49:04jlbiasinidd if=/09.Brothers\ In\ Arms.flac of=/media/jean-louis/1622-E34B/foo bs=$(( 8192 * 1024 )) iflag=direct oflag=direct
17:49:11copperok
17:49:48jlbiasiniI don't have an intern memory anymore so maybe those are not the values you would get on a normal device
17:50:07jlbiasinimy sd has both a system and a normal partition
17:50:35copperwhat sd card model is that?
17:50:56jlbiasinitranscend 64mb class 10 fat32 formated
17:51:45copperpamaury: did you make changes with regards to the Fuze+ sd card reader speeds?
17:52:14copper4MB/s sounds like the usual speeds (half of what the card is capable of)
17:52:28jlbiasiniyesterday a bunch of commit came in the tree
17:54:24jlbiasininow I copy 2 files simultaneously
17:54:30pamauryyes I did
17:54:41pamaurybut I do not expect this to reach top speed yet
17:54:47pamaury(with usb)
17:55:04pamauryjlbiasini: are you using bootloader usb mode or normal usb ?
17:55:11jlbiasinibootloader
17:55:31pamaurycan you check with normal usb and a very recent build ? (like HEAD)
17:56:12jlbiasinipamaury I'm head + sd boot patch that you help me to wrote to have my system on the sd
17:56:34pamauryok, then can you retry with normal usb build to see if the speed is the same or higher
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17:57:18jlbiasiniwell I will first try with normal usb (as to oppose to bl)
17:58:00jlbiasinisimultaneous copy gave me 2,5 + 2,2 MB/s
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18:27:28jlbiasinipamaury: from rb copy of one file is 6.1MB/s (as to oppose to 4.0 in bl
18:28:14jlbiasiniI didn't recompiled the bl since yesterday
18:32:30pamaurygood, I expected that value, I guess on host the card can read at ~8MB/s
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18:44:06jlbiasinipamaury: problem with simulator solved, patches updated
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18:51:33pamauryok, i'm trying the zen xfi2 with new memory patches, see if it's stable
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19:47:46pamaurythis is disappointing, I am using the exact same parameters as the OF and it doesn't work
19:48:28copperpamaury: that's probably because you weren't referred to by someone who's got credentials
19:50:07copper(I won't blame anyone if that joke is lost on them, it's not a very good joke)
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20:15:26pamauryI have checked everything: pll, clock gates, emi pins, drive, pullups, memory rail, all emi parameters, cpu and hbus are at the same frequency, *what* else could possibly be wrong ?
20:18:12pamauryah, vddio is 0.2V lower
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20:47:29pamauryhaha, vddio made the deal
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22:16:23jlbiasinipamaury: definitively sd work surprisly good without intern. I'm copying huge amount of file, not a single error...
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22:18:36wowanamewelcome back
22:19:20wowanamei made a theme; i am finetuning it now and will have screenshots up when i am able
22:19:55wowanamefunman» i'll stop annoying you today <3
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22:24:38wowanamethe screendump tool in rockbox is kind of annoying since it screencaps every change on the screen until you turn it off
22:24:58wowanamei'm gonna download the ui simulator but still it would be nice if there was a different method of screencapping
22:25:27*wodz asks for comments about g#576
22:25:28wowanamee.g. for the iPod Classic, switch the hold key once and back
22:27:05gevaertswowaname: that sounds like a bug
22:27:07gevaertsIt
22:27:11wowanameit shoudlnt do that?
22:27:14wowanamehm
22:27:25wowanamei mean after i plug it in
22:27:34gevaertsIf you enable screendumps, it's supposed to take a single screendump every time you plug in USB
22:27:34wowanameof course it doesnt screencap before it's plugged
22:27:37wowanameoh
22:27:41copperUh? Just compile a sim and press 0
22:27:45wowanameyeah i'm gonna
22:27:54wowanamesoon as i update my bootloader
22:28:02copperscreenshots look like 16 bit dithered or something
22:28:04wowanameusb bug in current
22:28:23gevaertsIf you're seeing something else, a bug report on flyspray would me most welcome
22:28:40wowanamek
22:29:07wowanamei'll test it again to make sure
22:29:55gevaertsHmm, I think I've seen something like you described at some point. Back then, it was caused by a stack overflow in the USB stack IIRC
22:30:08gevaertsThis is on the classic?
22:30:15wowanameyeah i'm getting one i think every secon d
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22:30:27wowanamegevaerts» i bet if i update the bootloader it will be fixed
22:30:30wowanameif it's a usb problem
22:30:41gevaertsSounds *very* unlikely to me, but feel free to try
22:30:53gevaertsTheSeven: any ideas about this?
22:30:54wowanamei already have usb trouble
22:32:45gevaertsScreendump code isn't related to the USB driver. It's just triggered by seeing power on the USB port
22:32:49wowanameo
22:32:51wowanameok
22:32:56wowanamemust be a bug then
22:33:05wowanamewell we have already established that
22:33:14wowaname:p
22:34:54wodzgevaerts: dump is triggered by seeing power on USB or on usb detect? Buggy driver may cause flood of usb resets which in turn may cause many usb detect events
22:35:07wowanametrue
22:35:11gevaertswodz: A USB reset shouldn't cut power
22:35:16wowanamei'll tell you all if it works when i update
22:35:19gevaertsAlso, the driver shouldn't be running
22:35:21wowaname:p
22:35:39gevaertsWe're *not* enumerating in this case
22:36:03wodzgevaerts: Strange then
22:36:04wowanamegevaerts» the ipod always treats connections the same even if plugged into a wall
22:36:21wodzwowaname: thats known problem
22:36:22wowanamethat has been noted
22:36:23wowanameyea
22:36:25wowanamei know
22:37:39gevaertsYes, someone needs to finally finish this conversion to USB_DETECT_BY_REQUEST on the classic
22:37:49wowanamelol
22:37:55wowanamethat would be great
22:38:00gevaertsWhat's so funny about that?
22:38:10wowanameiunno
22:38:25wowanamei lol a lot
22:38:44wowanamethe hells
22:38:54wowanamethe rockbox utility will not allow me to install a bootloader
22:39:21gevaertsOn a classic? Yes, that's true. Emcore is the bootloader there...
22:39:30wowanameo
22:39:32wowanamederp
22:39:46wowanameok so i have to stfw some more
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23:41:13wowanameugh i cant find how to update emcore
23:41:14wowanamestill searching
23:41:44TheSevenwowaname: run UMSboot from emcore's tools menu or through DFU, and drop a new installer image in
23:41:52wowanameo
23:41:54*TheSeven reads backlog
23:42:03wowanameTheSeven» wait a sec
23:42:09wowanamethat will update bootloader?
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23:42:18wowanameok
23:42:23wowaname>_<
23:43:31TheSevengevaerts: I have no explanation why it would screendump multiple times. a stack overflow *should* crash it
23:43:56wowanameCourtesy of wowaname's iPod
23:43:58TheSevenif it indeed triggers on USB resets that might explain things
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23:44:58TheSevenanyway, updating emcore definitely won't change that behavior. aren't you running the latest emcore release anyway?
23:45:07TheSevenI mean, you've just installed it a few weeks ago, right=
23:46:50fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision b63b330, 217 builds, 21 clients.
23:47:41wowanameTheSeven» no i am not
23:47:49wowanamei did install it a week or 2 ago
23:47:58wowanamehold a sec
23:48:01TheSeventhe latest emcore release is from january 2012
23:48:09TheSevenso you definitely have that already
23:48:12wowanameAug 14 21:01:35 TheSeven» the new one is in here, if you want to try if it works better/faster: https://mega.co.nz/#!NAoChaZA!LvrFIyi-cyTiP40U6Du7ITJpvUEITxhH5VCO2sIyKn4
23:48:21wowanameis that the new on e you are talkina bout
23:48:24TheSevenwell that's umsboot, not emcore
23:48:27wowanameo
23:48:36wowanamewell yes i have the newest emcore release
23:49:50wowaname>no ubi file found
23:50:05pamaurywe have three spam entries on gerrit
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23:50:27pamauryhow can we ban the poster ?
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23:50:58wowanamehow do i transfer the bootstrap
23:51:01wowanamethat's what i meant
23:51:09wowanamehow do i transfer that to the ipod
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23:53:33gevaertspamaury: isn't that in the sandbox?
23:53:44TheSeventhat's just a tool to bootstrap installation, which isn't permanently stored on the ipod
23:53:54wowanameTheSeven» i know
23:53:58TheSevenit's just a DFU-bootable version of UMSboot
23:54:15wowanamethen what the hell affects usb transfer to computer
23:54:28TheSevendefinitely nothing from that area
23:54:33TheSevenmost likely a rockbox bug
23:54:39pamauryare right
23:54:47wowanamebecause i cant access the ipod via usb using the updated rockbox image
23:54:57TheSeventhat's a known bug
23:54:59wowanamethe fallback works fine
23:55:00wowanameoh ok
23:55:04pamaurygevaerts: what do you think of g#569 ? For me it's ok
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23:55:07fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #569 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/569 : 3touchpad: Disable touchpad on softlock. by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/69/569/26)
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23:55:26pamauryI don't know if the way the settings are done is okay, I'm not much of an expert in this area.
23:55:27wowanamewell imma compile this ui shit
23:55:37TheSevenwowaname: it only happens on some PCs, which is why I asked you to play around with the new UMSboot to check if that works better than the old one (because the old one suffered from the same bug)
23:55:44pamauryAlso there is the question of the default value: should it be on or off by default ?
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23:55:56wowanameTheSeven» yes and i am not using the new one
23:56:11wowanameso that's why i was trying to figure out how to change over
23:56:19wowanamewould i have to redo the whole install process
23:56:22TheSevendoing that won't have any effect on rockbox, other than that this information is valuable for locating the problem with rockbox and fixing it
23:56:30wowanameoh
23:56:46TheSevenso we just need the feedback whether the new umsboot behaves other than the old one
23:56:56TheSevento check that, just boot the new umsboot via DFU
23:56:58wowanameyes and i was willing to try it
23:56:58gevaertspamaury: whitespace at the end of one line! ;)
23:57:15wowaname>boot the new umsboot via dfu
23:57:20wowanameand how would i do this
23:57:22pamaurygevaerts: can you put a comment please on gerrit please ?
23:57:31TheSevenjust like you did it during installation, just with the new bootstrapper exe file
23:57:40pamauryand appart from this whitespace ? ;)
23:57:41wowanameso i do have to repeat the install
23:57:49wowanameok
23:58:05TheSevenyou don't have to repeat the full install, you just do the first step of it
23:58:11TheSevenwhich doesn't modify anything on the ipod
23:58:16wowanamek
23:58:34TheSevenif you want to test it more extensively, you can also drop in the installer .ubi file, which is the second step
23:58:43webguest97Hi, I unplugged my Sansa Clip+ while it was transferring files and now it tries to boot but just goes to gibberish static screen.
23:58:45TheSevenbut that installer will realize that everything is up to date already and just do nothing in that case
23:58:51wowanameya

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