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#rockbox log for 2013-10-31

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04:24:50scorchewho needs a charcell device to test on? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271304988967
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08:45:34wodzI tried to link plugins as shared objects to see with readelf how it looks and eventually play with implementing dynamic loader. I modyfied plugins.make to include -fpic and final link stage to do -shared. I got this error I can't understand. http://pastie.org/8444749
08:46:12wodzAs you see I declared .rel.dyn section and assigned memory region so I have no clue whats wrong.
08:46:19wodzAny hint?
08:47:16wodzAh, I build upon my earlier elfloader stuff but this should be unrelated here as the problem is with linking
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08:49:50wodzremoving -Wl,-n doesn't change anything
08:54:01wodzremoving -T/home/wodz/rockbox/build/apps/plugins/plugin_elf.link makes it link with default ld script so this must be something wrong with linker script but I don't understand what
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15:04:09wodzfoolsh: Did you abandon the idea of wince port?
15:05:10pamaurywodz: I see no issue with your linker script, so I cannot help out of the blue, maybe it's a linker bug or .rel.dyn needs to be handled in a certain special way
15:05:24pamauryfoolsh: you want to port rockbox to Windows CE ?
15:06:47wodzpamaury: I found the solution to the linker script issue but I don't understand why it is so. Anyway this is just poking here and there to better understand various concepts.
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15:29:02foolshpamaury: Yeah, I've been at it a few days. Mostly just learning the in and outs of the scripts.
15:30:30*[Saint] wonders if its worth throwing http://pastebin.com/uZ47ek3y up on gerrit given the reception its parent had
15:32:14[Saint]It adds Shut Down as an option to any build via the magic main menu order config parameter, and ads Shut Down by default to anything that declares HAVE_SHUTDOWN_IN_MAIN_MENU, which is currently just the Player.
15:32:31gevaerts[Saint]: what's the point of that !?
15:33:34[Saint]gevaerts: it gives people the option of adding Shut Down to targets without a dedicated power button (iPods), or app targets, or...anything that isn't the Player. :)
15:33:52[Saint]Without hurting anyone that /doesn't/ want it.
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15:34:05gevaerts[Saint]: I didn't mean to be creative with punctuation, I'd have typed ‽ then :)
15:34:20gevaertsI mean, what's the point of that ! handling?
15:35:57[Saint]I liked it better than what it was originally ("?"), but it does seem entirely arbitrary. I dug this up and breathed new life into it. Jd slapped it together.
15:36:28gevaertsWhy is it there at all?
15:37:26[Saint]Is that a veiled way of saying "that's an ugly way to do it"? Or is that actually asking what its doing? :)
15:37:47gevaertsI asked why it's there because I'd like to know why it's there
15:38:04gevaertsI don't know any clearer way to ask why it's there than "Why is it there?"
15:39:53[Saint]Its there to stop Shut Down being added by default to targets that don't have HAVE_SHUTDOWN_IN_MAIN_MENU...I'm not sure how else to say it.
15:40:12[Saint]Whilst still leaving it as an option to be added by the user later.
15:40:34gevaertsIt's a *really* ugly way to do that I think
15:40:34[Saint]...which should probably have a UI, but doesn't.
15:43:28pamauryfoolsh: which devices run wince ?
15:43:54[Saint]I couldn't really think of a nicer way to do it. I'm the first to admit it isn't terribly pretty.
15:43:54coppernice, the FiiO X3 now has a USB DAC function
15:45:46foolshpamaury: Any armv4 or better Windows CE, PocketPC, or Windows Mobile > 6.1 It's sdl based so I have hardly any "porting" to do.
15:46:21[Saint]The devices the world forgot.
15:46:24[Saint]:)
15:46:57foolshThat's why I have a small hoard of them :)
15:47:20foolshSmall "as in" a few dozen or more
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15:56:40foolshMy cpu gets auto detected as arm (ver 4) by configure that's great , but...
15:56:52foolshWhat variable to set from configure so /firmware/asm/asm.make will not use firmware/asm/$arch is not used, but rather the generic funtions in found /firmware/asm/
15:57:25foolshI hacked on the asm.make file so I know "what" but not "how"
15:58:37foolshopps *will not use firmware/asm/$arch, but rather*
15:59:32*foolsh need much much more coffee
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16:04:46gevaertsHmmm
16:04:56gevaertsIIRC there used to be a way to do that
16:05:11gevaertsBut I don't remember at all how...
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16:14:18gevaertsOr rather, there used to be an issue with the maemo port that made it pick the C versions...
16:15:54foolshAh thanks, maybe something I can dig out of there
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16:16:47gevaertsAs a quick hack, you can probably change asm.make and set ASM_ARCH to something that doesn't exist
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16:18:49foolshIt looks like all the logic is contained in asm.make and relies solely on the arch, It maybe I have to add some conditions to asm.make in the end
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17:55:09amayercopper: i must say your Googley-Classic-Blue theme is great! Ive been using a slightly modified version of it since you posted it on the theme site. normally themes dont make it that long on my iClassic. I used to be continually working on a new one to try to find something I liked.
17:55:29copper:)
17:56:07copperwell, someone didn't like it :-/
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18:03:22copperamayer: feel free to balance out the rating ;)
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21:37:32copperamayer: thanks :)
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21:40:47amayercopper: no thank you!
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22:03:14[Saint]amayer: If you want to confuse people, try this one: https://mega.co.nz/#!J04RxYZS!CwtOMjtvywqSFagSs6iA4QUtWxVBXcwGxaPdv6fByq0
22:03:24[Saint](turn icons off for the full effect)
22:04:32amayer[Saint]: unless you updated it since a month or 2 ago I already have that one
22:04:48amayerI got it the last time you mentioned you were doing work on it
22:04:50[Saint]Aha.
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22:05:17amayermy brother got a kick out of it when i showed it to him (i put rockbox on his 5.5g)
22:06:58[Saint]Yeah, its best on the 5/5.5G, the Classic UI has a number of effects that are /almost/ impossible to achieve in Rockbox.
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