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#rockbox log for 2013-11-04

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08:11:52namespaceSo, I downloaded the utility, it runs, but it won't install the patched bootloader to my Sanza Fuze Plus, is this a known issue with a known fix?
08:12:02namespace(Like say, I forgot some step and need to go do it.)
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08:18:32[Saint]define "won't install the patched bootloader"
08:18:53namespaceI can't. Because that's all it says in the automated installer.
08:19:00[Saint]It should just be dropping a patched firmware file on the device and prompting you to safely disconnect and reboot.
08:19:04namespaceAnd the log file didn't seem to be very helpful.
08:20:36[Saint]Rockbox utility should be asking you to provide a firmware file, yes?
08:20:57namespaceYes.
08:20:59namespaceAnd I do.
08:21:13[Saint]ANd then what.
08:21:19namespaceWhen I dropped the vanilla firmware file into my Sanza's root it updated.
08:21:24namespaceSo presumably it's legitimate.
08:21:41namespaceThen it starts the installation.
08:21:56namespaceAnd fails, with the error that it couldn't install the patched bootloader.
08:23:25namespacePherhaps the program doesn't have the right permissions to modify my device?
08:23:30[Saint]WHat firmware version is this?
08:23:31[Saint]While the installer _should_ be able to patch any version of the firmware, that may not be the case.
08:23:48[Saint]It shouldn;t be a permissions issue, as it doesn;t need any fancy access.
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08:23:58[Saint]Its just dropping a firmware file in the main storage.
08:24:11namespace02.38.06
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08:25:29[Saint]Oh, hmmm. It may be a permissions issue, this target is different than I thought.
08:25:57namespaceWhen I try to run the utility from shell it won't bring up a window, tips?
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08:27:09[Saint]You could always just try this:
08:27:13namespaceNevermind.
08:27:15namespaceGot it working.
08:27:21namespaceThe graphical program anyway.
08:27:22[Saint]pamaury keeps a compiled bootloader here - http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26284.msg219884.html#msg219884
08:27:26namespaceNow to see if it installs...
08:27:41[Saint]and current builds are here: http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-sansafuzeplus.zip
08:27:53[Saint]extract both to the main storage and reboot.
08:28:11namespaceNope...okay I think I'll try that.
08:28:57namespaceThe build is current.
08:28:57[Saint]the firmware version you're using is indeed known good - frankly, I have no idea why the utilty would be failing.
08:29:13namespaceMe either.
08:29:21namespaceI'm a little frustrated, but only a little.
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08:34:36namespaceApparently that file has been "deleted or moved".
08:34:53namespaceYou are talking about the dropbox one right?
08:46:55[Saint]Oh - well, that sucks.
08:48:05[Saint]I guess I could compile it for you.
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08:49:43[Saint]One sec.
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08:53:21namespaceI'm curious about what's wrong with the utility.
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08:56:48bluebrothernamespace: post the System Trace output somewhere
08:57:04namespacebluebrother: Give me a pointer in the direction of how and I might do that.
08:57:05bluebrotherHelp / Troubleshoot / System Trace
08:57:22namespaceBut then, I'd probably end up obsessing about it and fixing the issue myself.
08:57:37bluebrothercopy that output and post it to pastebin.com (or something similar)
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08:58:33[Saint]I'm uploading a patched bootloader now.
08:58:46[Saint]but for some reason my upspeed is crippled right now.
08:58:57[Saint]~4 mins
08:59:15bluebrother[Saint]: why a patched bootloader?
08:59:52[Saint]sorry, wrong terminology
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09:00:01[Saint]bootloader-patched firmware.
09:01:15bluebrotherah :)
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09:01:30bluebrotheranyway, I'd like to see what the real problem is here.
09:01:45[Saint]Oh, indeed.
09:02:45*[Saint] should've chosen a better content host but its at that stage where it'd take just as long if I cancelled and started it anew elsewhere. Bah.
09:03:14namespaceWait, I think I figured it out.
09:03:22namespaceThe mountpoint is listed as /run/lock.
09:03:25[Saint]Gah. :)
09:03:32bluebrotherthat one won't work :)
09:03:39namespaceFigured.
09:03:39[Saint]Yeah - that'll do it.
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09:03:46namespaceHow to fix?
09:03:57[Saint]give the corret mount point.
09:04:08namespaceI don't think there's a button to change it.
09:04:23[Saint]There is indeed.
09:04:44namespaceNope, only seeing 'eject' here. Maybe I need to put the device into another mode so it can be properly mounted?
09:05:41bluebrothergo to the configuration dialog
09:05:46namespaceOr is the mount point in setting-knew it.
09:06:12bluebrotherthe whole "Device" area has a "Change" button
09:06:33[Saint]well - even though its largely pointless: http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-sansafuzeplus.zip
09:06:37bluebrotherwow, is that really that unclear? Might need a change then
09:06:59[Saint]https://mega.co.nz/#!uAgD2S6R!KQJZUy8K3QLTKt-VWijk40cM_DMqc5r0-Wh9TVEGYFg rather.
09:07:02[Saint]damn pastebuffer.
09:07:37bluebrother:)
09:08:16bluebrotherwe really need a new release ...
09:08:26namespaceIt's working now.
09:08:35namespaceReally should have caught the mount point thing way sooner.
09:11:25namespaceThanks guy.s
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09:12:25[Saint]I should've asked.
09:12:33[Saint]It was really foolish of me not to.
09:12:43[Saint]That should've been my first question.
09:13:01[Saint]My apologies.
09:13:12Andrew_SPardon the interruption. FYI to the channel: I posted a question regarding a SanDisk Clip Zip w/audio gliches on the 2nd. copper asked if I might link a sample of the audio. I've done this. URLs: (more) −− http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20131102 http://gra.midco.net/~atsdroid/sandisk_clipzip_glitching.mp3
09:13:39bluebrothermaybe we should run autodetection every time the configuration dialog is opened if the player configuration is invalid
09:13:45namespace[Saint]: I should have noticed.
09:14:09namespaceIt doesn't help that I hadn't mounted my Sanza yet.
09:14:16namespaceOf all the crucial steps to miss...
09:15:26[Saint]Blindly trusting it to find the correct mountpoint isn't uncommon.
09:15:37[Saint]Some users have no concept of what this actually is.
09:15:50namespaceTrue.
09:16:02[Saint]And there is a certain tendency to expect it to work as intended.
09:16:06namespaceDoesn't change that *I* should have known better.
09:16:22[Saint]We're all merely human.
09:16:24[Saint];)
09:16:34namespace"/run/lock, yeah that looks like the right mount point" *facepalm*
09:16:56[Saint]shoulda used sudo.
09:17:12bluebrotherwith removeable devices mounted on /run/<something> these days it's not too far off.
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09:17:27namespaceThe funny part is that thought actually went through my mind.
09:17:39bluebrother[Saint]: why? You don't need sudo for installing (except on sansapatcher / ipodpatcher based devices)
09:17:43namespaceAnd devices being mounted on /run is exactly why I though that.
09:17:58[Saint]bluebrother: you would if you wanted to patch to /run/lock
09:18:08*bluebrother liked it better when removable devices were mounted to /media
09:18:13[Saint]I was being humorous.
09:18:21[Saint]Or attempting to.
09:18:57bluebrotherseems it's too early for me :)
09:18:58Andrew_Sto update the matter: I've taken the unit back and exchanged it for another, the replacement does not exhibit the issue I'd noted earlier, so it appears to have been some manner of hw issue. The link has a sort passage recorded from the bad unit on which you the hear the problem, less the noise and slight distortion from recording and compression. This could be of interest to the community...
09:18:59Andrew_S...of Zip owners. I'll monitor the irc log for any followup responses, but I am not soliciting any at this time. Thanks everyone!
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09:19:52namespaceThanks guys, I'm out.
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10:39:24alijosahi i've googled a bit and can't find a definitive answer to whether Rockbox supports a generic Novatek Microelectronics MP3 player
10:41:08alijosalike this one here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-4GB-USB2-0-MP3-WAM-Music-Player-With-FM-Radio-Function-Voice-Recorder-Purple-/310785937023?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_PortableAudio_MP3Players&hash=item485c490e7f
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10:58:48[Saint]alijosa: it does not.
10:59:27alijosathanks man! much appreciated
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11:19:33wodzanyone has bright idea why .somesection : { *(SORT(__something.*)) } in linker scripts doesn't sort input sections by name?
11:23:49pamaurywodz: is it supposed to be possible ?
11:24:36pamauryI find some occurrences of SORT_BY_NAME on google
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11:25:15wodzSORT_BY_NAME is alias for SORT
11:26:49pamauryare you sure the syntax is correct ?
11:27:48pamaurytry SORT(__something.*)
11:27:55pamauryie without the surrounding *()
11:28:57wodzthe first wildcard is about object file it comes from as in *(.text*) for example
11:31:37pamauryjust saying...linker scripts are weird
11:34:30wodzWhoa it seems it sorts it correctly. Its just readelf doesn't indicate this :/
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13:15:38[Saint]scorche: is it possible to add "modify" back to the forum?
13:16:14[Saint]I just went to add an edit to a prior post and was rather surprised to find it impossible.
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13:34:57[Saint]Oh. Ok. Nevermind, scorche. It is indeed there. Apparently its my week for browser spazzes.
13:35:05[Saint]Apologies.
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16:55:31prymeroothttp://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20131103#10:50:32 anyone?
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16:59:35pamauryprymeroot: I'm no sansa expert but it seems to indicate it is bricked, looks like internal storage failure to me. Maybe funman can help ?
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17:04:56prymerootpamaury: Well, there was two times when the Rockbox started. Unfortunately, it turned off very fast. I don't even tried to change sth in settings (MSC or sth).
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17:07:49pamauryprymeroot: and now it doesn't even boot right ?
17:08:06prymerootpamaury: That's right.
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17:10:04pamaurymaybe you can unbrick it but it it failed without doing anything, it's probably a hardware failure. You should definitely ask funman because he knows more than me. We have a procedure here http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick but you shouldn't attempt it without being told to by someone knowledgeable
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17:18:20prymeroot„If it reports 4MB, your flash is broken.” I told that my system detect 3.6M partition, so…
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17:31:34funmanpamaury: I can not help
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17:33:09funmanpamaury: for the record, the expert in bricked Sansa is now gevaerts
17:33:22*gevaerts throws things at funman
17:33:28gevaertsI am not!
17:33:34*gevaerts never even saw one!
17:33:46prymerootSo there's no hope to unbrick my Clip+?
17:33:54gevaertsWell, I do know a bit about unbricking PP-based sansas, but not AMS-based ones
17:34:04funmanwell me neither.. all I ever knew about these things is in the wiki. The only known way to brick way is to modify mkamsboot specifically for this.
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17:34:09funmanBroken != Bricked
17:34:27funmanif your device breaks, throw it in the bin, end of story
17:34:57funman"way to brick way" => "way to brick one"
17:39:18prymerootMaybe you are right with this fragment about bin. That's my second Clip+. First still works, but I broke the jack input and sound is really distorted.
17:42:42funmankeep it for parts then (jack, battery, screen, buttons)
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17:50:50prymerootThe second Clip is probably from newer series – it has SanDisk logo on the front, instead of sansa. There's any differences in build?
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18:28:23NarodAre you sure it is a Clip? I don't think that the original Clip or the Clip+ were released with a different logo. The Clip Zip has "SanDisk" on the front.
18:29:24prymerootYes, both are Clip+.
18:31:56lebelliumprymeroot: that's right. The newer Clip+ have a "SanDisk" logo :)
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18:32:44lebelliumreleased in December 2012
18:32:53lebelliumor end November
18:35:30prymerootladyblink: Any differences except the logo? I heard something about battery terminal wire, which may be broken
18:36:32prymerootlebellium: ^
18:38:01lebelliumNot sure
18:38:06lebelliumI only have the old Clip+ myself
18:38:09lebelliumhave a look at http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70834
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18:58:52prymerootlebellium: Well, I would to swap few parts from the newer Clip+ to the old one. Housing, buttons and jack input, of course.
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19:30:52Szczepanciopamaury: Hi, what is progress on the fw of E380?
19:33:47pamaurySzczepancio: none currently, I'm leaving to Portugal, so I'm packing
19:34:24Szczepanciopamaury: I wish you nice traveling :)
19:34:49madcat1990pamaury : Tell me you've at least visited the Azores islands!
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19:35:29Szczepanciopamaury: So ok, I will be just waiting for news. Thank's for great work!
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19:36:02toffe82:) wrong tab
19:37:02bertrikA regular old clip has no microsd slot, the clip zip has a square color screen, the clip+ does have a microsd slot and has a rectangular blue/yellow display like the clip
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19:38:29bertrikThe clip+ can have two different PCB layouts, two different OLED displays and two different radio chips, but all clip+'s use the same rockbox binary
19:40:03prymerootbertrik: So it is possible to change the jack input from the new Clip+?
19:40:21prymerootis it*
19:40:31bertrikI guess so, don't know for sure
19:42:26lebelliumbertrik: what you say is dated 2011 or ealier. There is a new hw variant since then. Look the ABI link above
19:43:06bertriklebellium: which post exactly?
19:43:32lebelliumThe 1st one?
19:48:05lebelliumDifferences are said to be: different screen, different build quality for the headphone jack and belt clip, "SanDisk" logo, and new colors (special green and blue)
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19:52:24lebelliumoh and bertrik
19:52:40lebellium"Another difference: the FM chip is SI4700, while on my older player it's RDA5802.
19:52:42lebelliumAccording to Rockbox HW info, RDA5802 is actually supposed to be the new chip while older revisions should have SI4702 and the ZIP have the SI4703."
19:54:11bertrikok, but hardware-wise the clip+ variants are as I described and I don't see any evidence for new hardware in that thread
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20:40:42treaki__hi folks
20:41:36treaki__(hi leute)
20:41:48madcat1990ohai
20:43:32treaki__a schoolmate told me that there is a open source firmware for MP3-Players and i have just installed Rockbox on my Sansa Clip+
20:43:33treaki__(Ein Schulkamerad erzhlte mir das es eine OpenSorce Firmware fr MP3-Player gibt und da habe ich gleich Rockbox auf meinen Sansa Clip+ installiert)
20:43:50madcat1990(we speak english ;) )
20:44:04treaki__general its works much better than the stock firmware but i have some issues
20:44:10madcat1990Go on
20:44:27treaki__yea, i have wrote bilingual;)
20:44:45treaki__i have following questions:
20:45:14treaki__1. is it possible to change the power switch delay?
20:45:44madcat1990as in, the amount of time it takes, while holding the power button, for it to turn off?
20:45:59treaki__at the stock boot loader you have to press the power button some time (i guess 2 seconds) to start the player
20:46:41treaki__yes thats what i mean
20:47:06treaki__but the time its takes while holding to turn off is fine
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20:47:37treaki__my problem is that the player starts up if i just press the button for less then a secound
20:49:19treaki__so in compared to the stock firmware the player often starts up by mistake while carrying in the pocket
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20:50:23madcat1990Hmm.. Unfortunately, that goes beyond my level of expertise.
20:50:46madcat1990I don't think there is anything we can "Configure" in our boot loader though rockbox. This does sound like an issue/bug. You should report it
20:51:12madcat1990http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=2 here
20:51:48treaki__ok, thanks for the advise so far
20:52:06treaki__i have some other issues/questions about rockbox
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20:53:06treaki__my second problem is that there is no general key lock feature
20:54:14madcat1990have you tried checking this document : http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus.pdf and see if there's any indication of this feature?
20:54:23madcat1990if not, go to that link and submit a suggestion for a feature
20:54:38gevaertsThere's a lock feature on the WPS
20:54:40gevaertsmadcat1990: no
20:54:47gevaertsWe do *not* take feature requests
20:55:07gevaertsYou can discuss new feature ideas on the forums, but they are *not* welcome on the tracker
20:55:16madcat1990Oh, my bad. I'll keep that in mind
20:56:26treaki__yes, i have "checked out" the manual but only to look up some thinks, i dont read it entirely
20:57:33treaki__i know there is the possiblity to lock the keys while playing by pressing the select and the home key together
20:59:41treaki__gevaerts, do you mean i should report my start up button hold delay problem in the forum instead at the link madcat1990 send?
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21:00:20gevaertstreaki__: if it's a bug, it belongs on the tracker (i.e. the thing madcat1990 linked to). I have no idea if it actually is a bug though
21:02:34treaki__lock key problem: one thing is that it is very impractical to request to press two buttons at once because you need two hands for that. The way it works in the stock firmware with long pressing the home button is much better....
21:03:18treaki__the secound thing is that the player ulocks themself if the playlist endet and you are unable to lock the keys if you are not in the "playing main screen"
21:03:22gevaertsOne problem is lack of buttons
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21:04:03treaki__for example there is no way to lock the keys while you are listening to FM radio or recording
21:04:29gevaertsI'm sure nobody would object to the idea of a general soft-lock feature, the problem is usually the details
21:04:52NarodI thought the lock option was enabled for FM radio? Or are some keymaps missing?
21:04:58gevaertsForget having a single button press (short or long) that's available in all the screens you want it in
21:05:44*gevaerts blames Sandisk for not having a proper hold switch
21:06:02NarodWell, the Fuze (the old one) got a hold switch.
21:06:30gevaertsYes, all of the old players had them
21:06:32treaki__yes, of cause there are not anough buttons for the feature rich rockbox :)
21:08:21NarodIn all seriousness, though, I don't mind not having a hold switch as long as the soft-lock works properly. I like the way it handles on the Clip models. Pushing the middle button and home at the same time is a good solution.
21:08:45treaki__but I would rather like to have the key lock feature at the "long press home button" action instead of the suddle repeat screen
21:08:57*treaki__ just found out jet that this screen existed
21:09:30treaki__i used the playback setings menu before to switch on of repeat/suffle
21:09:38n1slong press of one button is rather easier to do unintentionally
21:09:45gevaertsWell, that's why we recommend reading the manual :)
21:10:03gevaertsAnyway, it's not a shuffle/repeat screen. You can have any option there you like
21:12:01treaki__Narod, i just tried out on my sansa clip+ with latest stable rockbox release soft-lock feature does not work at FM Radio
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21:13:41NarodLet's see if this works... g#421
21:13:43fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #421 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/421 : 3 by (changes/21/421/1)
21:13:48NarodThere.
21:15:13gevaertsYes, post-3.13 :)
21:15:25treaki__back to my first question and gevaertss advice. i don't know either of the mentioned problem is a problem which sould be reported at the bug tracker or not
21:16:01NarodOh, right, there isn't a new stable version yet. So...go ahead and try the devbuilds if you live on the edge, treaki. (They usually work fine.)
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21:16:05gevaertsYou'll get that if you run a development build though
21:16:21treaki__that depends in my view of the defenition of a bug. is there a guidline where i can refere to and and find out which things sould be reported at the tracker and which not?
21:16:51gevaertsWell, a bug is when something isn't working as designed and/or documented :)
21:17:17NarodI would assume that the hold and power button thing is supposed to be the way it is right now.
21:18:25NarodMy Clip Zip also boots up even if I just "click" the button, by the way. It shouldn't be a big change, but I dunno.
21:18:30treaki__ok, than i think my first problem is more like a feature request. on the other hand you could question if a mp3 player is designed to go on by mistake... so it could also be a bug. but i think i will report this to the forum.
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21:20:05treaki__ok, i guess i will jump into the could water and try out the latest devbuild...
21:21:03*treaki__ is a debian user still runing his maschine at stone age level squeeze (just got away from lenny:))
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21:24:24*treaki__ reads http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NoDo
21:24:45treaki__rofl: "An Advanced Settings setting to hide Advanced Settings"
21:25:11NarodOh, by the way...could it be that Sansa devices are prone to headphone jack failures?
21:25:24NarodBecause every single Sansa device I owned ended up having a broken jack.
21:25:50treaki__mine is working...
21:26:19NarodJust you wait. ;)
21:26:37treaki__how long have you used your sans?
21:27:19NarodMy Clip+ I used for two years until the jack stopped working properly, Fuze...eh, maybe a year and a half and my Zip also a year and a half.
21:27:26treaki__i have bought my sansa at the begin of 2012 and used it since today. it is still working fine...
21:27:56NarodOh and the buttons of my Clip+ are worn out. I have to press them really hard to get them working.
21:28:21NarodBut it's a very old Clip+ model, I bought it in...2008, I think.
21:29:58treaki__so i will see if my clip+ is still working at 2016;)
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21:31:00NarodNah, mine broke after two years, so you only got a few months left until you're entering the danger zone. ;) Maybe I'm just too rough with my mp3-players. But hey, my Nano 2G is pretty old now and still works like a charm.
21:31:10NarodI wonder if anyone found out what broke USB mode on the nano 2g, though..
21:31:36treaki__so if you still are not annoyed about my questions i got a third one
21:32:15NarodGo ahead.
21:33:37treaki__the RTC (real time clock) value conversion works different in compare of the stock firmware and rockbox on my sansa clip+
21:34:02NarodWhat do you mean?
21:34:28treaki__so if i set the correct time at rockbox its the wrong time at the stock firmware and on the other and if i set the correct time at the stock firmeware the rockbox time is wrong
21:35:00NarodHey, you're right. It does that on my Clip Zip as well.
21:35:09treaki__so my question is: is it possible to tell rockbox that it sould convert the time to the format the stock firmware also use
21:35:34NarodDifferent question: Why would you use the stock firmware, anyway? :P
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21:36:47treaki__(this is also a common problem at multi boot pc systems (linux and windows) where you habve to tell your linux that the Bios clock is set in localtime instead of UTC
21:37:10NarodOh, hold on, on my Clip Zip it works fine. I only had to set up both clocks properly and now they display the correct time in both the OF and rockbox.
21:38:23treaki__Naked, because I can
21:38:45treaki__ok if it works at your clip+ i will try to do it again...
21:39:03NarodMy Clip Zip, not my Clip+ :P But I can try it out on that one as well.
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21:44:53treaki__if it doesn't matter you, to do so, i would appreciate that
21:49:05*treaki__ just got another problem
21:49:31NarodOh, well, I thought I had it on my desk but I don't. I'll try that thing out should I stumble upon that little device again.
21:49:44treaki__my sansa clip+ is hanging on rockbox usb driver mode
21:49:55Narodhanging?
21:50:41treaki__yea, the usb icon is shown but i have pulled out the cable
21:52:47treaki__a now its right. seams to be a broken usb cable/hub/swich/port whatever
21:52:48NarodDoes it happen every time, without fail?
21:53:02treaki__tryed out another cable/port combination and now its working
21:53:07NarodWell then.
21:53:24gevaertsUSB support is a bit unstable at times on the newer sansas
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21:55:05treaki__by the way, is there a way to tell rockbox to ask before activating mass storage?
21:55:26bluebrother^no
21:55:40bluebrother^but if you hold a button when plugging the player in it will charge only
21:55:48treaki__sometimes you just want to charge up the player on the computer withot having the storage activated. so you could listen to music while plugged on...
21:56:20treaki__does it matter which button?
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21:57:02gevaertsIdeally a button that doesn't do annoying things otherwise :)
21:57:04bluebrother^usually no
21:57:18bluebrother^you might not want to use the power button :)
21:57:32gevaertsWe usually recommend the "select" button, as that one will just open the context menu, which doesn't do anything
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22:04:14madcat1990treaki__, this is a known bug, try putting your default theme
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22:05:50*gevaerts tries to explain that while there are indeed indications for theme-related USB issues, not *all* USB issues are going to be theme-related
22:08:11bluebrother^best to not use a theme at all :D
22:08:13*bluebrother^ hides
22:08:28treaki__Narod, ok i have set the time again on both systems and now it is working correct in dual boot
22:09:20treaki__seams to be another mechanism behind. possible more then one real time clock integrated...
22:09:27madcat1990bluebrother^, any updates on the memory issues with usb thus far?
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22:11:07bluebrother^none that I'm aware of
22:11:34madcat1990=/ there haven't even been that many commits as of late
22:11:39madcat1990did something happen?
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22:13:09bluebrother^people have been busy doing other things.
22:13:18madcat1990Wifes and family, I s'pose?
22:13:22bluebrother^so sure, things did happen :)
22:13:23gevaertsYes, the mp3 player died out
22:13:37bluebrother^oh right, forgot about that one
22:14:21gevaertsWell, that's a bit of an overstatement, but it's still a fact that the dedicated higher-end mp3 player is being pushed aside by the smartphone
22:14:21fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 739a7ae, 225 builds, 35 clients.
22:14:46bluebrother^for the sake of it, a new build :)
22:17:05madcat1990YAY! *checks changelog*
22:17:44madcat1990whoa o-o
22:18:03bluebrother^that's been hanging in gerrit since quite a while
22:18:17bluebrother^now to review the two following ones ...
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22:20:18NarodI still prefer having a dedicated mp3-player. I tend to use my smartphone a lot and that's no fun with cables dangling everywhere. Bluetooth isn't an option because, well...wireless. Battery drain.
22:25:56madcat1990I am now using subsonic
22:26:04madcat1990but This project still interests me
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22:29:24bluebrother^then stop using it and get a real player!
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22:44:22madcat1990I still have my clip+ But with the USB problem, getting files in/ out of it is a hassle =/
22:44:33madcat1990thusly, why I have been keeping track of this project
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22:46:29foolshGeez it looks like it's going for an all time build time record with that one commit
22:48:10bluebrother^Zagor, Bagder: seems like now the git error did hit some build clients. At least mine: http://pastebin.com/BbwuMpRj
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22:49:02gevaertsMine too. Trying to fix manually
22:50:47bluebrother^hmm, now gerrit can't merge the review and pushing the fixed one doesn't work for some reason :(
22:50:56bluebrother^guess I'll keep doing that for later
22:51:19gevaertsA manual git pull origin master gets my client going again
22:52:42gevaertsOr fetch
22:52:57gevaertsAnd those checkouts definitely never saw anything non-master
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22:54:13bluebrother^same here
22:54:30bluebrother^though I'm still wondering what's wrong with those packs git is complaining about.
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23:01:16gevaertsHmmm
23:01:17gevaerts"remote: error: unable to open object pack directory: ./objects/pack: Too many open files
23:01:20gevaerts"
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23:01:28gevaertsThat could be an actual hint!
23:01:33gevaertsBagder: ping
23:02:16*Bagder notices
23:08:37gevaertsStill getting the same
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23:19:13Bagdergevaerts: now?
23:19:18gevaertsBetter!
23:19:28Bagdergreat
23:19:33gevaertsNow let's hope the other build clients pick up :)
23:20:35BagderI restarted mine and it looks fine
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23:36:21fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3Build round completed after 4920 seconds.
23:36:23fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 335ec75, 225 builds, 39 clients.
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23:47:12fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision c49a447, 225 builds, 39 clients.
23:50:43*bluebrother^ feels Rockbox Utility 1.4 coming closer
23:53:21fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3Build round completed after 369 seconds.
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23:54:53lebelliumWould be great to sync changelog.txt with http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility
23:55:10lebellium(yes I love my H300 v1.31k :) )
23:56:11lebelliumbluebrother^ ^

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