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#rockbox log for 2013-11-24

00:00:27n1swe pretty much need "put framebuffer on display"
00:00:39pamaurydecoding codecs on it would be pretty cool though
00:01:06[Saint]When they "opened" the display driver, they really just releaed an open shim to a closed source binary - which is still _something_ I guess, but yeah.
00:01:27[Saint]There's some painfully slow going on reversing the videocore binary.
00:01:55[Saint]Not going terribly fast, or far, though. Perhaps they need a pamaury. ;)
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00:03:20[Saint]And while doing codecs on the GPU would be very cool - I think we're fast enough on ARM with most codecs now to not make that a major worry at all.
00:03:30[Saint]s/now/for a long time/
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00:06:28pamauryis this videocore thing common or just on the rspi ?
00:06:40amiconnrpi also has the (in)famous videocore stuff like the ipod video?
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00:07:59pamauryamiconn: yeah, but a much older one
00:09:53*[Saint] is somewhat surprised that the raspberrypi hasn't restarted a new boom in the "Lyre" project...
00:10:30[Saint]You could sell kits. Raspi, PicoPSU, generic project box, bunch of buttons wired for a GPIO header, and a 7" composite LCD.
00:11:30[Saint]roll a tiny distro based on Arch or something suitable tiny. bam.
00:11:46pamaurybut it would be quite big
00:12:57[Saint]You could add a keyboard! :)
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00:14:56wodzpamaury: hwstub for rk commited :-)
00:16:34pamaurygood
00:17:11wodznow the challenge is hwstub for atj :-)
00:19:36pamauryI have two: hwstub for rknano and tcc
00:20:26wodzpamaury: I was wondering how usb connected debuggers inform gdbserver about hitting breakpoint? I was thinking that we could patch mem to jump into hwstub but then it needs to somehow inform gdbserver that breakpoint is hit
00:22:05wodzpamaury: with rknano I would start from porting hwstub to amsv2
00:22:28wodzthen you will have some means of feedback from target during development
00:22:39pamauryusually you rather write an undefined instruction and capture this undef instr handler
00:23:06wodzpamaury: we could use swi as well. That part really doesn't matter
00:24:09pamauryso what is your question then ?
00:24:39wodzhow the gdbserver knows the breakpoint was hit
00:25:01pamaurypolling or we define an interrupt endpoint
00:25:28pamauryit would be preferrable to implement transport over bulk anyway, for speed reasons
00:26:24wodzCurrent implementation has BIG benefit of being very simple. Only control transfers.
00:26:34pamauryyes I know
00:26:49pamaurythat's why I wrote it this way
00:27:33pamaurybut to support remote debugging we would need to enhance hwstub quite a bit
00:27:43pamaurywe would need to intercept the irq handler and hide usb from the running code
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00:47:50shadows[Saint]: sadly, raspi nearest competitor (in my opinion) beaglebone black is minus an audio interface
00:49:05pamaurywhat are the differences ?
00:49:21pamauryraspi has jack and hdmi audio ?
00:51:24shadowsraspi has 3.5mm type audio jack; bbb has none and it also has audio output through hdmi
00:51:52[Saint]so does raspi
00:51:56[Saint](audio over hdmi)
00:51:59shadowsah, yes
00:52:47shadowsnot an expert myself, but bbb is also fully documented
00:52:51pamauryoh really, no jack ?
00:54:52shadowsjack exists on BegaleBone and BeagleBone XM ; those are also about $100 usd more costly
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02:38:51pamaury[Saint]: I'm looking at the videocore project, they made a lot of progress recently
02:41:04[Saint]pamaury: #raspberrypi-internals is where most of the IRC stuffs happens afaik
02:42:05pamauryanyway I don't really plan to work on this, not in the near future
02:42:25pamauryor someone would have to find a very good reason for it
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03:32:35shadowspamaury: very good financial reason? do you mean that?
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03:53:22impossiblei installed rockbox on my fuze and I'm missing one song.
03:53:38impossibleit was in flac. Does rockbox play flac?
03:57:45impossibleWhoops. Turns out I deleted the file. Loving rockbox though
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08:26:56copperbattery benchmark with a recent revision on the Clip+, with lossyFLAC: https://outpost.fr/tmp/d6V.txt
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08:51:20[Saint]Whoah.
08:51:35[Saint]SO much different looking at a target where the estimated runtime is even vaguely correct.
08:53:29copper[Saint]: is there any chance that the reason is that the Clip+ is never "unboosted"?
08:53:43copper(if I recall correctly?)
08:54:30[Saint]...huh?
08:54:44[Saint]I'm not sure how those would relate to each other, even if it were true.
08:55:47copperjust some bit that I remember from the test_codec benchmarks that saratoga asked me to run some time ago
08:56:15copperdunno if the "boosting / unboosting" thing only concerned the test_codec plugin
08:56:38[Saint]I think you may be misremembering. The CLip+ certainly is "never unboosted", it very rarely boosts. And this doesn;t have anything to do with estimated runtime.
08:57:01*copper greps his logs
08:57:14[Saint]Errr, dammit. I worded that very oddly. The Clip+ has very little reason to ever boost.
08:57:37[Saint]Except if you're running some truly insane codec and to fill the buffer.,
08:58:30[Saint]You can run run an unboosted test_codec run, and that would result in awful runtime...perhaps that's what you're thinking of?
08:59:02copper<saratoga> yeah the clip+ has boosting disabled
08:59:24copper2013/07/28 20:28:43 UTC
08:59:47copperbut that related to the test_codec plugin
08:59:52copper<copper> I don't see that option on the Clip+
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09:00:12copper<saratoga> it was a bit unstable and we never figured out why
09:02:44copper[Saint]: I'm just talking out of my ass, like most of the time ;)
09:02:59[Saint]Hmmm..I see. I don't remember that sticking. I thought that was only temporary.
09:03:07coppertrying to related bits and pieces I know nothing about and don't understand :-P
09:03:17copperrelate*
09:03:58copperanyway… my Clip+ is charging, and then I'll run the year old build like the Classic
09:04:14coppersince the Clip+ battery is so much smaller, I'll be able to get the results today
09:04:21[Saint]I think I recall the Clip+ not getting terribly much out of running an unboosted clock anyway. But now I'm struggling to recall because I thought it still had boosting enabled.
09:05:53[Saint]Well, my apologies. I really thought that was only temporary, I certainly recall it having boosting once upon a time.
09:08:36[Saint]Maybe I'm mixing things I think I recall about the CLip+ and the ClipV1
09:12:06[Saint]So much variance in the SansaRuntime Clip+ stats its pretty much impossible to gain anything useful from it.
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09:13:17[Saint]9h in 2010, to 17h in 2010, 14h in 2011, to 10h in 2013, and now your 15h in 2013. :-/
09:14:34copperI guess you can only reliably compare benchmarks on the same unit, at about the same time
09:14:45copperlike what I'm doing now
09:15:20[Saint]I'll dig up and charge a Nano2G this evening when the So goes to bed.
09:15:24coppersame unit at the same time = same battery at the same age
09:15:35[Saint]Since tests there will take changing builds and looking at a screen.
09:15:42[Saint]Rather than waiting ~20h
09:15:51[Saint]+
09:15:53copperwhat is the So?
09:16:10[Saint]Significant Other - Ms [Saint] :)
09:16:14copperah
09:16:26copperand what's special about the Nano 2G?
09:16:49[Saint]Its the only target that can display its exact power usage.
09:16:57coppernice
09:16:58[Saint](to my knowledge)
09:18:08[Saint]There's about what, ~300 commits to cover in the period you're testing from?
09:18:27[Saint]git bisect should have that done in no time.
09:19:12[Saint]for reference for me later on, what is the closest "good" commit?
09:19:53copperiPod Classic: 3e1c492
09:20:07copperFuze+: c4f2a46
09:20:20copperfirst is from november 2012, second is from July 2013
09:20:45copperbut right now I have no idea if there is any relation between the two in terms of battery life
09:20:45[Saint]So its variable by device, or those are just builds you happened to have laying around?
09:21:11copperI chose the Classic commit from 2012 because that's what I tested a year ago
09:21:37copperpamaury chose the Fuze+ commit because he knew that one was supposed to have long battery life, but I think that was Fuze+ specific
09:22:16[Saint]Ok, nevermind. I'll pick an arbitrary point in time that predates both. Easier.
09:22:25copperI'll be testing the Clip+ with the same year old commit as the Classic, to see if the battery life difference is target-agnostic or not
09:23:08[Saint]I would find it hard, but not impossible, to believe that a bunch of device-specific regressions were introduced.
09:23:20copperand yeah, it's a pain to test, but that year old commit was my only known reference
09:24:01[Saint]Looking over the commits from that period, there's no immediate show-stopper that jumps out and says "test me".
09:24:07[Saint]But, there;s a few I could try.
09:24:16[Saint]I'll let git biscet descide.
09:24:37copperif it was more or less obvious, I suspect someone else would have found out about it already ;)
09:25:29copperlike I told GodEater the other day, a 25% drop in battery life is not necessarily obvious when you're casually using your DAP
09:25:32[Saint]You'd think. But stranger things can happen.
09:25:48[Saint]And, no. It isn't.
09:26:12[Saint]I charge all the time, whenever I can.
09:26:28[Saint]So I wouldn't ever notice it unless battery time dipped below ~5 hours.
09:27:16[Saint]Hmmmm...there _was_ a really big playback engine reshuffle....
09:28:33copper[Saint]: btw, the battery life difference with the Fuze+ is rather interesting:
09:28:37copperhttps://outpost.fr/tmp/laE.txt
09:28:40copperhttps://outpost.fr/tmp/LUN.txt
09:29:01copper41 hours in july 2013 vs 30 hours now
09:29:25copperso if the problem is target-agnostic, there may be a chance that it came after july 2013
09:30:06copperthough the Fuze+ is a slightly different beast, since there has been a lot of work semi recently to improve its battery life
09:30:17copperbut the drop is large enough to be worth mentionning
09:30:50coppera Fuze+ build from late 2012 would also likely run for 30 hours, because the improvements came later
09:31:15copperthe more devices we collectively test, the better, I guess
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09:40:07[Saint]After July?
09:40:15[Saint]Well..that's my candidate excluded than.
09:40:22[Saint]*then
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09:42:31[Saint]g#479 ?
09:42:33fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #479 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/479 : 3 by Michael Sevakis (changes/79/479/9)
09:44:34coppermy config sets 44.1 kHz
09:46:12[Saint]If I assume target has nothing to do with it, and take your "July-ish" feeling into account...that seems like the likliest change to accidentally balls something up - though it shouldn't, to my knowledge.
09:49:01[Saint]I initially suspected the playback engine rework, but with the data you've given that is ruled out.
09:49:28copperthat means running two more benchmarks on any given target: one with that revision, and one with the revision before that one
09:50:21[Saint]I'm not going to go with any gut hunches on this one, I'll end up leading myself astray.
09:50:56[Saint]I'll pick an arbitrary point in time in the "known good" region and let observation and git bisect decide.
09:51:41[Saint]If I don't manage to sneak away tonight I should have all day tomorrow.
09:52:10copperhmmm, but that commit predates the 40 hours Fuze+ revision
09:53:03[Saint]When it was committed to gerrit, yes.
09:53:07[Saint]To Rockbox, no.
09:53:57[Saint]It was committed between the 2nd and 5th of July 2013
09:54:09coppergit log puts it online 3112, while the Fuze+ revision is on line 2536?
09:54:27copperthe Fuze+ revision was committed on July 23
09:54:54[Saint]Ahhh, well. Shit.
09:55:25copperunless that IS indeed the offending commit, and instead of 40 hours, the Fuze+ should have gone 50 hours!
09:55:38[Saint]Hahahaha :)
09:55:48[Saint]...possible.
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09:56:58[Saint]Serve's me right for going looking again for possibly-suspect commits.
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09:58:42[Saint]Knowing my luck I'll test on N2G when I get a chance and everything will be kosher.
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09:59:38copperugh, that is a big commit
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10:01:38[Saint]But if one assumes your F+ revision is "good" it can't be the offender.
10:02:29[Saint]Disregarding that info, it certainly looks like a suspect. It walks over enough things.
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10:03:16[Saint]I'll take off the speculation hat until I can do something about it. Thinking about possibilities is driving me nuts.
10:03:25copper[Saint]: the Fuze+ revision is special because it includes work on saving battery; there's no telling if the improvements were so large that they would absorb the regression.
10:04:41copperIf the clip+ with the year old revision shows better battery life, I'll try the sampling rate commit on it right after
10:05:42copperI'd rather test the Clip+ over my Fuze+ and Classic because 1) I don't use it, and 2) its battery is smaller and thus the benchmark last half as long
10:05:47copperbenchmarks*
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10:12:25copperthat wouldn't explain the Fuze+ regression
10:12:47copperif it lasted 40 hours WITH the regression, then its later regression would not be related
10:12:59coppersigh
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12:59:45pamaurycopper: how is the clip+ doing ? finish ?
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13:00:12pamauryOne on my fuze+ finished the after 7h ! That the fuze+ I only rarely use, maybe the battery is dead :(
13:00:17copper07:26:57 UTC <copper> battery benchmark with a recent revision on the Clip+, with lossyFLAC: https://outpost.fr/tmp/d6V.txt
13:00:35copper15 hours
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13:03:49pamauryis that good or bad ?
13:04:25copperthat's fairly normal I think
13:04:42copperexcept I'm using (lossy) FLAC, which is very efficient
13:05:01copperright now I'm running another benchmark on the Clip+ with the same year old revision that I ran on my Classic
13:05:08copperwe'll see if there is a significant difference
13:08:18copperfor reference, FLAC on the Clip+ decodes nearly 4 times faster than LAME
13:08:33copperand my lossyFLACs are barely twice the size
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20:18:05copperpamaury: clip+ currently at 22%, but that's expected: I started the benchmark somewhat late
20:18:26copperer, I'm replying to the same question for the second time
20:18:31copperbacklog
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20:21:17pamaurycopper: on my fuze+ I think I will reach 30h but no more
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20:26:43CultistHello
20:27:29CultistI wondered if anyone could recommend a music player with good rockbox support, something 16 or 32gb with good build quality in the $100~ range
20:27:31saratogaif you want to test battery life a lot, i'd recommend a DMM and a USB cable
20:27:39saratogatotal cost on Amazon.com is less than 10 USD
20:28:43saratogaCultist: probably a sandisk player and a microsd card
20:28:55copperpamaury: is your current Fuze+ revision older or newer than the 40 hours one?
20:29:18CultistI've got a Sandisk zipclip with rockbox on it, but it keeps freezing up and crashing when I try to play ogg files
20:30:14saratogadoes it always happen with the same files?
20:30:16n1sCultist: any ogg files or sepcific ones?
20:30:21saratogai'm surprised, ogg support is quite stable
20:31:01Cultisthappens with all the ones I've tried
20:31:24Cultistall converted from flacs, I guess it's possible something was going wrong with the conversion
20:31:27Cultistbut they play fine on mycomputer
20:31:36saratogaat the same place in each file?
20:31:42saratogaor is it random
20:31:42Cultistbefore they start
20:31:47CultistI open the file, everything freezes
20:31:50saratogaah thats probably bad files than
20:32:07Cultistexcept they work on my computer's media player
20:32:13n1swe still shouldn't freeze
20:32:21saratogatry this file and see if it works: http://download.rockbox.org/test_files/vorbis_128.ogg
20:32:54Cultistgotta dig up a microsd card, misplaced the one I had in there (I haven't messed with it in a while)
20:35:20pamaurycopper: all revisions we are testing are older than the 40hours one
20:42:39Cultisthm
20:42:42Cultistit works now
20:42:55CultistCould the filenames cause a problem?
20:43:08Cultistthings with overly long names, or with accented characters?
20:44:07saratogano those won't matter
20:44:34saratogaso that test file works, but your files do not?
20:45:54saratogacheap DMM: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EK3NRS/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i1
20:46:09gevaertsLarge vorbis comment stuff, maybe?
20:46:15bertrikor perhaps weird/overly large metadata
20:47:07n1sthe problem with huge metadata is supposed to be fixed
20:47:52n1sanyway i'd be interested in a file that freezes the player with a recent version of rockbox
20:48:04saratogawow someone actually makes a USB power meter: http://www.amazon.com/PortaPow-Monitor-Multimeter-Ammeter-Chargers/dp/B00DF2485S/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1385322439&sr=1-1&keywords=usb+power+meter
20:48:12saratogawonder if its any good
20:49:02n1s"now accurate to 0.01A" doesn't sound super useful
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20:49:45saratogaah yeah too low to be that useful
20:49:51saratogaerr, our currents are too low
20:50:49saratogaa real DMM is cheaper and more versatile anyway
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21:01:10Cultistwent afk
21:01:23Cultistsaratoga, yeah. Or at least, they used to not
21:01:36saratogaso they work now?
21:01:36CultistI need to go get a new higher capacity microusb card, biggest one I can find at home is 8gb
21:01:46CultistI must have misplaced my old one with my music
21:02:04CultistI'll rebuild the set on a new card and see if they work now
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21:04:09Szczepanciopamaury: Did you make anything on linux based sony players?
21:05:59pamaurynot yet
21:06:02Szczepanciopamuary: I mean, did you anything after my absence.
21:06:35SzczepancioMeh, bad.
21:07:18SzczepancioI know it's not your fault, but it's bad that nobody take interest in sony linux mp4 player's. They are great.
21:08:58pamauryit's not that nobody is interested, it is that nobody has time
21:09:54saratogayeah, there are a lot of mp3 players out there
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21:36:09wodzpamaury: I have problems compiling qeditor http://pastie.org/8505799
21:37:12pamaurywodz: give me 5/10 minute and I'll be available
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21:50:13pamaurywodz: it compiles fine here :-/
21:51:19pamauryah I see, I'm using a gcc extension syntax
21:51:58wodzqmake emitted warning also: "Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: widgets"
21:52:29pamaurywodz: change the offending lines to this: http://paste.pm/c59.c
21:55:15wodzpamaury: works, thanks
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22:02:14WaterHey guys. Anyone in here use a Fuze+?
22:03:19pamauryplenty
22:03:51WaterIs this a known bug: turn on Fuze+ (start screen set to "Resume Playback"), as soon as playback starts, long-press the "Play/Pause" button. RB now hangs for 20 seconds and nothing can be done.
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22:04:26WaterI'm guessing it has something to do with the bookmark file.
22:04:46pamaurythat rings a bell but I'm note sure
22:05:01pamauryI'll try it when my fuze+ has finished my battery bench
22:05:17WaterCool. Ty.
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22:06:42wodzpamaury: qeditor doesn't work for me. With my xml file it spits "parser error : Extra content at the end of the document </xml>" loading stmp files crashes the whole thing "GLib (gthread-posix.c): Unexpected error from C library during 'pthread_setspecific': Invalid argument. Aborting."
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22:07:01pamauryweird
22:09:05wodzpamaury: my description file: http://pastie.org/8505850
22:13:27pamaurygoogle chrome doesn't like your file either
22:14:18pamauryah, you don't need to close the <xml> tag
22:14:46pamauryactually you must not close it
22:16:10wodzpamaury: that is contrary to what your XML.txt file states :-)
22:17:12wodzpamaury: after removing </xml> from my file it crashes qeditor the same as your stmp xml description files
22:18:02pamaurycan you run valgrind ?
22:18:20pamauryor gdb
22:18:40pamauryby the way, if you put your xml file into utils/regtools/desc/
22:18:47pamauryit will automatically be loaded
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22:19:46pamauryit should be named regs-rk27xx.xml probably, for this to work
22:20:21pamauryI have no idea why it crashes though
22:20:24wodzbacktrace of the crash: http://pastie.org/8505870
22:20:56wodznot very helpful I guess
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22:25:12pamauryindeed
22:25:16pamaurymaybe ask bluebrother^
22:25:22pamauryhe knows a lot about QT
22:30:02wodzvalgrind summary: http://pastie.org/8505890
22:33:50pamauryso the program is not doing anyway strange
22:33:56pamauryI mean appart from crashing ^^
22:35:04wodzyeah, without that minor detail it works great :P
22:35:14wodz*besides
22:35:42pamauryI never pretended that it actually works !
22:35:57pamauryI just pretended that it does things on my computer :p
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22:40:10pamaurywodz: maybe it's a problem with QT ?
22:40:24pamauryor maybe it's related to this warning in qmake
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22:40:58wodzpamaury: I don't know C++ and don't know QT so can't say
22:41:18wodzpamaury: which version of qt do you have on your machine?
22:41:30pamauryi'm not QT expert some maybe I did something wrong
22:41:32pamauryQT4
22:42:22pamaury4.8.5 iirc
22:44:05wodz4.8.1 here
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23:06:13pamaurycopper: fuze+ ran for 26h :-/
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23:13:16Waterpamaury: What file type/bit-rate? I got 33 hours 6 months ago when mine was brand new.
23:13:40Water~224 kb/s mp3
23:14:05pamauryWater: we are bisecting a power regression, this test does not represent the current status
23:14:15Waterah
23:14:19pamaurythe best we have obtained is ~40h with high quality mp3
23:14:36Waterwow cool!
23:15:30pamaurybut we have regressed since then and we trying to find why
23:15:49WaterCould I help with my Fuze+?
23:16:44Waterpamaury:
23:17:17pamauryI'm waiting for the results of copper but yeah definitely
23:17:48pamaurybest you can do is pop up tomorrow, I'll send you the files for a specific revision and explain you the procedure
23:17:53pamauryif you don't mind :)
23:17:59WaterGlad to help.
23:18:16WaterAround what time tomorrow?
23:19:02WaterSend the links.
23:19:06pamauryany time, I'll always connected during the day (GMT time)
23:19:10pamaury*I'm
23:20:56WaterOops, i misunderstood. I'll pop in tomorrow ready to go.
23:21:51pamauryok thanks
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23:24:14WaterI have a vague memory of some commit comment months ago with words something like "remove all frequency scaling". I didn't actually read the code. We do scale CPU frequency on the Fuze+ though, right?
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23:35:00pubwsliHello, I'm experimenting with addons in rockdoom and I keep encountering the same error. While Doom runs fine, my addon does not. I downloaded the .wad I wanted and put it in .rockbox/doom/addons.
23:35:18pubwsliI loaded Rockdoom, selected my addon, and pressed play game. Every time I do this, the lines of text flash as usual, but it says in one of them that something is wrong with my shareware and then it gets stuck on a line about sprites, duplicating it every second until it's been about 30 seconds, then rockdoom quits.
23:35:45pubwsliDoes anyone know what could be the issue?
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23:43:43foolshWater: Yes the Fuze+ does frequency scaling. You probably remember this (Tue Sep 4 00:35:58 2012 "imx233: disable cpu frequency scaling") it was disabled but on (Fri Jan 18 18:59:08 2013 "imx233: enable cpu frequency scaling on all targets") it was enabled
23:44:21pubwsliI figured I had a bad .wad so I found another, but I got the same result. Where did I go wrong?
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