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#rockbox log for 2013-12-02

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11:54:50pamaurygood, the fuze+ power regression is now solved
11:57:58lebelliumthere was only one responsible commit?
11:59:12Zagorpamaury: nice!
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12:00:46pamauryyeah, I made the battery bench and I have the same time with HEAD + reverted commit and with the revision with the best known running time
12:00:59pamauryI only get 37h because my battery is a bit old now
12:01:15lebelliumone good thing done, thanks
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12:20:16pamaurywould someone object against converting battery_bench to pluginlib or at least using pluginlib as a fallback if no other keymap is defined ? that seems like a reasonable solution at at the moment
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12:24:41wodzIt would be great if ALL test plugins use pluginlib only
12:25:12wodzand also it would be great to have easy switch to build test plugins only as well
12:26:41pamauryor many it could be great if all or most plugins could use pluginlib as a fallback
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12:27:01wodzpamaury: afaik that is impossible
12:27:02pamaurymany one couldn't use all the feature but that would greatly simplify the work
12:27:16pamauryor display a message saying that's impossible
12:27:31pamaurybecause at the moment, you cannot ship *any* plugin without fixing all of them...
12:28:03wodzYeah. Another soultion would be to have per target whitelist
12:28:21pamauryI will send a mail to see
12:32:20copperpamaury: good job! Is the offending commit Fuze+ only?
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12:32:37copper(and, what was it?)
12:32:55wodzcopper: When the sd is in TRAN state it cannot enter sleep mode
12:32:57pamauryno it's imx233 generic
12:33:15copperwodz: and what's that in english? :P
12:33:56wodzcopper: SD card has a bunch of states it can be in. One of them is TRAN state which is the state in which you conduct actual transfers from/to card
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12:34:29wodzcopper: If you keep card in TRAN state, card's internal controller doesn't allow to enter sleep mode
12:34:31copperbut I ran my benchmarks without an SD card inserted
12:34:41wodzcopper: internal flash is sd also
12:34:53pamauryinternal flash is mmc, which is the same
12:34:58copperI see
12:35:15copperso that wouldn't affect the iPod Classic, I take it?
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12:35:29pamauryno :(
12:35:30wodzthis particular commit cannot
12:35:33copperok
12:36:05pamaurycopper: if you have a good commit and a bad commit for the classic, I can lookup the commit list (if it's not too big) and tell you if I see anything suspicious but that's all
12:36:24copperthanks, but I only tried two builds a year apart
12:36:32pamauryI have to do more tests, I'm curious whether we can save more powers by 1) use the sleep/wake command on MMC 2) powering down SD/MMC completely after some inactivity
12:37:11pamaurycopper: I guess the classic doesn't have many commits but if you could, say, reduce this a bit, maybe to six months that would help a lot
12:37:27coppernoted
12:37:29wodzpamaury: Did you finish benchmark/bisecting? Are you confident there are no other factors?
12:37:55wodzpamaury: You latest bench didn't hit 40+ mark
12:39:29pamaurycopper benchmarked a commit and got 41h, on mine the same commit gives 37h and I get 37h with HEAD
12:40:10pamauryIf someone with a brand new Fuze+ wants to benchmark HEAD to double-check he is welcome
12:40:41wodzpamaury: My point is that the 'very old' and HEAD seems to not be inline still
12:44:52kugelpamaury: absolutely not! pluginlib actions is preferred
12:46:08kugelpamaury, wodz: perhaps the plugins configure could be made to work like "all,none,pla" (where pla compiles/ships only those that use pluginlib actions)
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12:47:11wodzkugel: that is one of possible solution
12:47:33wodzkugel: But from my perspective for the initial port days it would be easier to have whitelist file
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12:53:01pamaurykugel: what do you mean by "absolutely not" ? to what are you referring ?
12:53:14kugel"would someone object against converting battery_bench to pluginlib"
12:53:20pamauryah yeah :)
12:54:36pamauryI've sent a mail to rockbox-dev about this issue
12:54:38kugelwodz: why? in the initial days you create a single pla and disable all other plugins that require more work
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12:56:33wodzkugel: It is cumbersome when you start do define more complicated keymaps and you have to either 1) define fake keymaps for all or 2) compile the plugin you are working on by hand
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12:56:56pamauryand hacking in SOURCES is not great either
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13:00:42kugelhm, does anyone know speex?
13:01:08kugelit seems to trip over chunked talk clips
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13:11:47lebelliumpamaury: NWZ-E340 and 440 are very close! The few differences spotted: miniUSB (E340) vs WM-Port (E440), voice and FM recording on E440, more video formats supported on E440 (H.264, MPEG-4).
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13:12:49pamauryquite possible, however the E440 is quite boring because it uses raw NAND and I haven't reverse the FTL yet
13:13:10lebelliumLooks like the E340 has been released in Russia only, but I'm not sure
13:13:27lebelliumBut they have exactly the same design, I don't know why there are not in the same series
13:13:59pamaurycrazy Sony marketing ^^
13:16:13pamauryThe cube plugin could clearly be converted to pluginlib
13:16:44pamauryit only has one more action than standard plugin has which could either be not mapped (the "pause" mode) or mapped to repeated select (which could be "mode")
13:17:32pamauryI'm sure chessclock too can be mapped to pluginlib
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13:23:44lebelliumpamaury: is g#490 ready to be committed?
13:23:46fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #490 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/490 : 3 by Lorenzo Miori (changes/90/490/15)
13:27:08mortalislebellium: undo chmod in powermgmt-imx233.c
13:29:45lebelliummortalis: I assume you are talking to pamaury or lorenzo. I have nothing to do with that :P
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14:07:00pamauryyeah it's lorenzo92 who should do that
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14:07:25pamaurylebellium: nand is not working on the z5 yet. We will commit this one very soon but it's basically not working without hacks
14:08:32lebelliumpamaury: I know that, Rockbox has been running on my Z5 for 1 year now. But it needs to be plugged to computer :)
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14:56:41pamauryhum, providing pluginlib fallback will prove more difficult than expected, there is a *wide* variety in how plugins handle butttons
14:56:49pamauryI even discovered button_status() !
14:58:41pamaurythe main problem is that most plugins assume buttons form a keymap
14:58:47pamaurywhich is not true with pluginlib
14:59:18pamauryso basically I would need to enhance pluginlib with a "fake button" API which behaves exactly like buttons: buttons are bitmak, repeat is part of the bitmask, so on
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15:11:04kugelpamaury: the easy cases have been converted already :p
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15:14:45pamaurykugel: well yeah, I guess it's easier to just replace some with pluginlib entirely rather than provide pluginlib as replacement
15:14:59pamauryon the other hand, provide pluginlib as fallback avoids changing much of the code if done properly
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15:22:49kugelpamaury: if pluginlib can cover all functionality the legacy keymap should be dropped
15:24:29pamaurysometimes it can cover and sometimes it's borderline (cf my mail)
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15:25:54kugelpamaury: btw, metronome.rock has a case where some targets add extra buttons (outside PLA) while the main buttons are handled via PLA
15:27:15kugelyou can create button maps on top of PLA so that it will chain down to the PLA context. these extra maps can be target specific
15:28:22pamauryah interesting, seems much better this way
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15:29:30pamauryThere something unclear about button handling: if pluginlib action is used and there is a system event, is it returned by the function ? or ignored ? or processed with default handler ?
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15:30:33chrisjjOut of interest, can anyone recall the cause of the big drop in ram suage at SVN v~27600? http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6822/wxcq.png
15:31:16pamauryAt random I would say buflib, ie that's not an actual decrease, it is dynamically allocated
15:31:32pamauryor any dynamical use of the audio buf actually
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15:31:57pamaurychrisjj: did you try the build I posted on the forum ? did it change anything on your device ?
15:32:16pamaurychrisjj: by the way, I don't see how the bootloader could have charged before, it was disabled on the stmp3700 !
15:34:40chrisjjTrying now...
15:34:52kugelpamaury: you have to call to the default handler, like with get_action in core
15:35:15chrisjjRe the bootload, I have on ZEN charging right here on V1 Beta.
15:35:28kugelplugin_ctr0.c provides a convinience wrapper, though, to quit the plugin for POWER_OFF and USB_CONNECTED
15:35:46kugelsee metronome.c:983
15:36:13pamauryok I'll have a look at this later
15:36:39chrisjjIt says "Charging status: discharging" but "Battery: xx%" is rises and thn RB Settings, System, Info confirms.
15:37:47pamauryhum, ok that's by luck then because rockbox doesn't touch any power setting in the V1Beta bootloader and Creative must setup charging. Anyway now rockbox does handling charging correctly
15:37:54pamaury*handle
15:43:25chrisjj"that's by luck" :)
15:46:04chrisjjOK, re your added RB-own charging on 3f55f01-131201 , yes it is working. Well Done again Amaury!
15:49:17pamaurychrisjj: tentative lcd fix: g#688
15:49:18fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #688 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/688 : 3 by Amaury Pouly (changes/88/688/1)
15:53:24pamauryI don't have any issue anymore with my ZEN lcd so it's hard to debug, maybe there are several variants of the ZEN but I couldn't find any trace of it in the OF disassembly either
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15:58:42chrisjjFingers crossed for g#688 imx233_dma_reset_channel :) I'll test this as soon as it reaches the daily build. Thanks.
15:58:43fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #688 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/688 : 3 by Amaury Pouly (changes/88/688/1)
15:59:14foolshpamaury: I remember the sansa e250 v1 boards and e250 v2 baords had similar LCD troubles if not exactly the same "white screen of death"
15:59:26chrisjjP, when you say "I don't have any issue anymore with my ZEN lcd", do you mean that g#688 has fixed the black screen after bootloader, for you?
15:59:27fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #688 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/688 : 3ZEN: new try at fixing the lcd by Amaury Pouly (changes/88/688/1)
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16:00:10chrisjjfoolsh: the ZEN WSoD is gone TMK. We've got just a BSoD.
16:00:48pamaurychrisjj: I don't plan to commit g#688 unless someone reports any success with it
16:00:49fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #688 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/688 : 3ZEN: new try at fixing the lcd by Amaury Pouly (changes/88/688/1)
16:01:41chrisjjpamaury: I don't see any ZEN beta testers with a build system.
16:04:07pamaurychrisjj: even with HEAD I don't have any issue
16:04:26pamauryI can upload a build corresponding to this gerrit patch
16:05:02pamauryyou still have troubles with HEAD right ?
16:05:53chrisjjMost kind. I'll wait for that build. BYW, FYI re your "did you try the build I posted on the forum" I didn't see you post that on the forum. I got it later from Daily Builds.
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16:07:14pamaurychrisjj: https://www.dropbox.com/s/scx4ya1jj1hgvq1/rockbox-zen-lcd-fix.zip
16:08:01chrisjjTaking it now - thanks.
16:13:05chrisjjRe HEAD, I've not tried HEAD specifically, but I do still have trouble with that latest daily build.
16:14:42pamauryok, then tell me when you have tried with the build from my dropbox, let's hope
16:14:58chrisjjSorry to report rockbox-zen-lcd-fix.zip 9ff1819-131202 shows no improvement to the LCD BSoD.
16:15:54chrisjjpamaury, to save your time, I suggest you sync your test with mine, and if that fails, I mail you a unit showing the test fail.
16:16:17pamaurywell my tests are pretty actually: they all work !
16:16:23pamaury*pretty easy
16:16:38pamauryWhat is your test procedure: reboot until it BSoD ?
16:16:45chrisjjWell, that shows those tests are not good enough :)
16:16:59pamaurynot necessarily, units may vary from each other
16:17:18chrisjjYes my test procedure is reboot until BSoD. But perhaps sensitive to conditions.
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16:17:53pamauryand you confirm it is not the bootloader which fails
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16:18:36chrisjjHang on, that last test was with the V1Beta bootloader. Trying again with V1Beta2...
16:18:59chrisjjpamaury, what model is yout ZEN? 4GB? 8Gb?
16:19:12pamaury2GB
16:19:52chrisjjOK, I'll add a 2Gb to the suite.
16:22:49chrisjjMeanwhile, 4Gb is the nearest I have to yours, so retesting with that.
16:23:24lorenzo92it seems that git code viewer strips last empty line...does someone confirm?
16:23:36pamauryI don't think the storage size is relevant, there could many more differences like the SoC ROM version for example
16:24:18pamauryI will add a debug screen to display the exact chip version, that's a useful information
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16:25:11chrisjjSorry, again no improvement - BSoD remains Conditions: ZEN 4Gb "J"; Bootloader version V1Beta2_fb8faa1; RB version rockbox-zen-lcd-fix.zip 9ff1819-131202; default settings.
16:25:54pamauryso the bootloader displays a few lines of text and then you get a BSoD ?
16:26:07chrisjjUseful indeed. I'll wait for that, and then we'll resync the test.
16:26:25pamaurydo you get a BSoD in the bootloader itself sometimes ? (ie the device stays black and doesn't even display the few lines of text)
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16:30:23chrisjjHave I seen a BSoD after the CREATIVE logo but before "Boot version:... "? No never (in thousands of cycles).
16:31:28pamauryhum interesting
16:31:57chrisjjAnother thought about conditions, could OF version be relevant?
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16:33:27pamauryProbably not, however the fact that it never fails in the BL is a very interesting fact
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16:34:10pamauryI will need to verify something, I have a new idea
16:34:34chrisjjInteresting agreed, since lcd.h is used in both.
16:35:03chrisjjBut re OF, why "Probably not" not "Definitely not"?
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16:35:36pamauryProbably not as in "No except if you already had BSoD in OF"
16:36:26chrisjjEvery unit in this test suite is certified free of OF BSoD!
16:37:19pamauryso definitely not
16:39:00pamaurychrisjj: could you do me a favor and try a new bootloader: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lylxog0szynnxtm/firmware-zen-v3.nk
16:39:17pamaurybasically this is the current bootloader (HEAD as of now)
16:39:27pamauryJust use it normally, torture it as you wish
16:40:11pamauryAnd tell me if you manage to get a BSoD in the bootloader, ie you see the Creative logo but not "Boot version: ..."
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16:43:19chrisjjTrying bl v3 now...
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16:49:13chrisjjNo change so far - BSoD remains. Conditions: ZEN 4Gb "J"; Bootloader version V1Beta3_3f555f01; RB version rockbox-zen-lcd-fix.zip 9ff1819-131202; default settings.
16:50:32chrisjjFAOD: No BSoD before bootloader ... so far. I will continue testing. GTG now.
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17:33:04foolshpamaury: Even though I don't have the hardware to test them, if the simulators are working I can help with some keymaps. I need the experience anyway.
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17:39:18pamauryfoolsh: I am in the process of converting some plugins to our pluginlib action framework first, but after that you can definitely give a hand
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17:54:41foolshpamaury: Cool, can't wait
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18:15:15pixelmaafter the kind of "desaster" (too many contexts with increasing amount of overlaps where you couldn't tell if you break another target when trying to fix one) with the first incarnation of pluginlib actions I'm very sceptical about this :\
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18:21:37pamaurypixelma: I don't know if you had a look at the plugins recently but many of them could just use pluginlib action, they don't need any more button or just one extra button
18:22:12pamauryhave specific keymap for them is a waste of time, and a maintenance burden
18:22:48pamauryand my initial approach is to say that we could (and should) provide a reasonable pluginlib action fallback when it's possible to help new ports
18:24:40pamauryand it's not only about this, it's about the more general question of how can we select only a subset of plugins to provide for a particular target because we are missing keymaps for the others
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18:27:30pixelmanot sure but not being able to fix the keymap for any one existing target without the often well hidden possibility to break others was a maintenance burden too (as I said that was the problem with the first version of this). Since I had a target with one of the least possible buttons and combos (the Ondio), I keep being sceptical. E.g. if you now say "some only need one additional button" I'm not sure if that's possible on all targets.
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18:29:04pixelmajust saying, cleaning up the code and unifying the way plugins handle buttons (even if it's not PLA) is still a good idea I guess.
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18:37:01Szczepanciopamaury: Hi, is there any progress on e370 (that non-linux based mp4)?
18:37:39lebelliumSzczepancio: there is new keymapping and improved battery life, check the latest builds :)
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18:40:46Szczepanciolebellium: The plugin's are not working, still?
18:41:23Szczepancioare still not working*?
18:43:09lebelliumno
18:45:11lebelliumThey won't be working as long as the keymapping is not done
18:45:29lebelliumpamaury has probably not much time for that and I'm not interested doing it
18:47:26Szczepanciolebellium: meh, sounds shitty.
18:48:34lebelliumwhich plugin do you need?
18:50:05pamaurypixelma: My proposition at the moment is the following:
18:50:06pamaury1) keep the current keymap for all plugins
18:50:06pamaury2) enhance pluginlib action to provide a button-like interface
18:50:06DBUGEnqueued KICK pamaury
18:50:06pamaury3) in all plugins where it's possible, provide a default keymap based on this new interface
18:50:06pamauryThat way we do not break any target and we provide reasonable default for the new ones. At the same time it allows one to cleanup the code
18:51:48pixelmawhat do you mean with "button-like interface"?
18:53:16pamaurythe current pluginlib action returns things like PLA_SELECT_REPEAT which obviously doesn't work when the code is matching for button | BUTTON_REPEAT. So the idea is to have a little wrapper to translante X_REPEAT to X | BUTTON_REPEAT and X_REL to X | BUTTON_REL. that way the same code ca handle both normal button and pluginlib action
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18:59:16Szczepanciolebellium: It should be nice to play some games on it, but I found that it having small screen enough for plugin's.
18:59:30SzczepancioBut my sansa clip zip was good enough to play mario, by the way.
18:59:47SzczepancioAlso, doom and other's.
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19:00:59lebelliumok
19:01:08lebelliumfeel free to set the keymapping then :)
19:03:41Szczepanciolebellium: i know i can do it, but... i still waiting for someone to hack a e470. It's my main player, so u know, i can do with it everything. What I said, e380 is my dad mp4, and i don't wanna do not anything with it. I can exchange, but I think e470 is better for me.
19:04:06Szczepancio(Bigger screen, etc.)
19:04:22SzczepancioI asked for progress on e370 because i am partially interested in it, but not fully.
19:07:35lebelliumok
19:09:15lebelliumI wanted to buy a E474 but the seller did not reply and actually I don't have much money right now. pamaury was also interested in buying one but he's currently abroad
19:09:41pamauryI tried on leboncoin but didn't an answer
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19:10:35Szczepanciolebellium: I should donate you to get faster work, but I am so young and i don't spend money on internet thing's, u know.
19:11:15lebelliumpamaury: the one in Nantes? we asked the same guy I think :D I could have asked the other seller in Paris but I should not spend too much right now
19:12:52pamaurylebellium: I don't remember, anyway I didn't an answer
19:13:04lebelliumSzczepancio: I'm not sure that would really speed up things. pamaury is working on 36 000 players at the same time, so he doesn't have much time :D
19:13:25Szczepanciolebellium: That not an work, that a passion really :D
19:13:33SzczepancioThat not hobby*
19:15:15Szczepanciolebellium: Do us other work than RE? :>?
19:15:31pamaurySometimes I think about just stopping but no other project is as cool :)
19:15:44SzczepancioOSDev is cool :)
19:16:06SzczepancioBut it's hard and developer do at it slow progress.
19:16:36SzczepancioAlso, finding exploit at psp games to get usermode access on ps vita can be cool.
19:17:37pamauryThe only projects I find very cool are the graphic cards RE but really that's not rewarding to work against manufacturers which try so hard to f*** you
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19:19:17pamaurylebellium: do you know the nwz-e585 ?
19:19:29lebelliumpamaury: yes
19:19:58pamaurywhat is your opinion ?
19:21:06lebelliumIt's the very first non-Android Sony player to support FLAC! :)
19:21:54lebelliumup to 77hrs audio playback
19:22:06lebelliumLooks great
19:22:13lebelliumbut the price....
19:22:50pamaurythere is one at 50€ on leboncoin
19:22:59pamaury16GB
19:23:27lebelliumwhaouh!
19:23:47pamauryif you want it, ask now or I might :p
19:24:42lebelliumarf scratches
19:24:46lebelliumI hate scratches
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19:26:56lebelliumI let it to you :)
19:27:01pamauryeveryone hates scratches ;)
19:27:10pamauryok
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19:36:50lebellium_even though there are a few scratches, 50€ is a very good deal for it. But I don't have money right now, and I don't really need the Noice Cancelling since I wouldn't use the Sony earphones.
19:37:54lebellium_the E475 would be enough for me
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19:42:15pamauryif anyone wants to review g#490 before it goes it, it's right now
19:42:16fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #490 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/490 : 3Initial commit for the YP-Z5 port by Lorenzo Miori (changes/90/490/16)
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19:49:00alexisisisHi everyone. I trying scrobble my scobble.log from my Clip+ with qtscrobbler in linux. QTScrobbler isn't allowing me to load the log though, I can browse to the device and can see the log but it is greyed out and won't allow me to select it. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong and don't really know where else to ask about it so any help would be very much appreciated.
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19:50:05chrisjjDoes drag and drop to your HD work?
19:50:12alexisisisI'm sorry, I'm an idiot, I thought it was asking to locate the log, not the device
19:50:37alexisisischrisjj, I was going to try that but I just realized what it was asking for and now it's loaded the log fine
19:51:06chrisjjYou're not an idiot. That's a reasonable thing to expect - you might have two logs!
19:51:11chrisjjGlad you're fixed.
19:51:47alexisisisthat's true! Well all good now, thanks anyway.
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20:34:51toehserNeither %?pv<|dr(1,1,1,1)||> nor %?if(%pv,<,0)<dr(1,1,1,1)> does what I expect - which would be the rectangle appearing/disappearing as the volume passes 0db - but %?if(%pv,<,0)<%Vd(x)|%Vd(y)> DOES work - is this a bug? Something special about drawRectangle? Something I'm conceptually missing? Note, it _will_ draw the rectangle when it goes to the next song... or at some point... but not real-time, the way it will with the views... what am I misunders
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20:44:01coppertoehser: why so many ||| in the first example?
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20:44:33copperwhat about %?if(%pv,<,0)<dr(1,1,1,1)|>
20:44:55copperanyway, using viewports is better
20:45:19toehserIt has the weird lag - doesn't take effect right when the volume changes - but does when I skip the song to next
20:45:31copperwith viewports?
20:45:47toehserThe ||| are because I want the symbol on negative, but not mute or 0 or +
20:46:06toehserviewports work if I only do the dr once, first, and swap them
20:46:31toehserso with defining 2 viewports and doing <%Vd(x)|%Vd(y)> works...
20:46:47toehserbut doing <dr ...| > directly _doesn't_
20:47:03toehseras if it doesn't think the dr needs to be actually executed when it changes
20:47:07toehseror something with refresh
20:47:41toehserit works "late"... that is, I change the volume, it doesn't seem to take effect, but then skipping to next song or other actions, it appears...
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20:49:24lorenzo92pamaury: thanks for merging and for all the help :)
20:49:42pamaurywe are not done yet ;)
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20:56:25kugellorenzo92: is there anything ypr0 related that I can have a look at?
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21:00:21fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #634 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/634 : 3 by Lorenzo Miori (changes/34/634/2)
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22:16:11foolshg#689 Do other targets use a touchpad besides the fuzeplus?
22:16:12fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #689 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/689 : 3Docs: Manual entry for touchpad sensitivity. by Benjamin Brown (changes/89/689/2)
22:16:55foolshI see gigabeat in some places but I haven’t a real clue
22:17:52pamauryfoolsh: the gigebeat has a sensitivity setting but it's not handled the same as the Fuze+
22:18:19pamauryeither it should be updated to use the same infrastructure or it uses another way, I don't remember
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22:19:19pamaurylet me check this
22:19:44pamauryok the gigebeat has a touchpad setting but which is boolean
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22:21:07pamauryit uses the same setting as the Fuze+ expect there are two modes: boolean (normal & high) and range (A..B where A and B are target specific, A=-25 and B=25 on the Fuze+)
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22:22:57foolshOk, I'll use the sim to help me flesh it out more. thanks
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22:26:14pamauryIf one day someone had told me there were such crazy backlight systems, I would not have believed it
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22:37:55foolshpamaury: Is the gigabeat's bool (normal & high) setting an exported hardware function? Just a general question, since it's bit of a strange way to write it.
22:38:20pamauryyes, touchpad_set_sensitivity
22:38:53pamaurywhich in this case is in firmware/target/arm/s3c2400/gigabeat-fs/button-meg-fx.c
22:41:22pamauryI am not crazy, OLED displays don't have backlight right ?
22:43:31lorenzo92kugel: what lebellium pointed to you is legacy stuff, I had a more clean code BUT the result is the same
22:44:01kugelwhat is the result?
22:44:03lorenzo92kugel: there is a bug in the kernel driver, so there is little chance to make it fully working without touching the kernel I fear
22:44:30lorenzo92the problem is that sound card is initialized only once. Either recording or playing works.
22:44:46kugeldid you look at the kernel driver code?
22:44:54lorenzo92so if you start recording, again playback is impossible and the other way round
22:45:21lorenzo92yes I guess i found the reason: but I'm unsure and I did not have much time to look at it unfortunately
22:45:50kugelwell, if we can identify the bug we can ship a fixed driver, like with radio
22:48:37lorenzo92hum
22:48:42lorenzo92i'm not sure we can
22:48:49lorenzo92it is not a module
22:48:58lorenzo92but perhaps i'm wrong and that could be done
22:49:43kugelthe module could perform some hacks to prevent the in kernel driver from being used i think
22:50:25kugelwhat happened about your microsd work?
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23:43:44pamauryyeah lcd working on the sansa express
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23:45:06*gevaerts considers asking if there are players pamaury is *not* working on :)
23:47:25pamauryI swear this is the last I have work in progress at the moment
23:47:32pamauryat least serious work in progress...
23:47:45pamauryand this one is very easy
23:48:22pamauryplus now one owns this player anymore so it's just for fun I guess
23:48:25pamaury*no one
23:48:54gevaertsWe need to keep up the tradition of supporting stuff you can't even get second-hand any more :)
23:50:30pamauryexactly
23:50:44pamauryI had to wait one year to see one second-hand so it clearly qualifies
23:51:02gevaertsYou probably got the very last one
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23:53:32pamaurydamn this SSD1303 display controller must have been designed by a devil
23:54:16pamauryseriously who organises the pixels in bank of 8 vertical pixels so that each byte represents 8 *vertical* pixels in a horizontal manner ?!
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23:56:52pamauryand also who has the crazy idea to have N banks: the N-1 first one have 8 pixels whereas the last one has more ?!
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23:59:01derfpamaury: It's just like the tiling done in current GPUs :).

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