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#rockbox log for 2013-12-22

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00:45:58saratogahttp://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?p=642511 < sounds like some kind of memory corruption issue?
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01:21:55antithesis_Hey guys
01:22:14antithesis_Gonna buy a new MP3 player and install Rockbox on it. Which one should I buy?
01:23:08saratogaclip, ipod maybe
01:23:11saratogadepends what you want
01:23:15antithesis_Which one has the most capabilities even without Rockbox?
01:23:19antithesis_Like an alarm clock or something
01:23:23antithesis_I don't like ipods
01:23:48antithesis_Or, well, what's the cheapest one that supports alarm clock?
01:24:26saratogai think most devices can do that
01:25:28[Saint]generally soeaking, such devices make crap alarms.
01:25:43[Saint]*speaking, even.
01:26:06saratogayeah a cell phone works best for that
01:26:45antithesis_I have a Nokia 3310 and it doesn't do that.
01:27:04saratogawell a more modern phone then
01:27:06[Saint]if the fw hangs, you're basically screwed.
01:27:19[Saint]and we couldn't promise it wouldn't.
01:27:20antithesis_And the Sansa Clip doesn't have an alarm clock, does it?
01:27:31gevaertsWhich one?
01:27:36antithesis_fw?
01:27:41gevaertsv1 or v2?
01:27:43[Saint]firmware
01:28:11antithesis_That generally doesn't happen
01:28:13gevaertsAs far as I can see in the source, the clip plus, clip zip, and clip v2 do RTC alarm, but the clip v1 does not
01:28:46[Saint]it only has to happen once to mess your day right up.
01:29:05[Saint]and we just cant promise it *will* run through the night.
01:29:16[Saint]it should...but, no promises.
01:29:19gevaerts[Saint]: it's not supposed to
01:29:28gevaertsYou want RTC wakeup
01:29:32antithesis_Don't worry, I've got backup measures for that
01:30:01[Saint]ah, well. even in that case you cant really rely on that as a certainty.
01:30:14antithesis_I've got a time switch connected to my desk lamp next to my bed, so it automatically turns on when I _really_ need to wake up :)
01:30:25gevaertsYou can't rely on the sun rising the next day, if you're after absolute certainties :)
01:30:38antithesis_It's my DIY light therapy setup
01:31:46antithesis_Meh, I still can't decide
01:31:50antithesis_Okay which one is the cheapest?
01:32:55[Saint]almost certainly one of the Clip family.
01:33:40[Saint]But it also pays to check out second hand markets locally i find.
01:33:47[Saint]Pawn shops are great.
01:34:05antithesis_Amazon is my pawn shop.
01:35:10[Saint]Well, you mentioned cheapest, so I guessed you were looking for bargains.
01:35:33antithesis_gevaerts just so we're clear: the models you named have alarm clock even without Rockbox?
01:35:41gevaertsI have *no* idea
01:35:54saratogaif you want to use it as a device, an android phone might be better given the infinite amount of software and customizability
01:35:57gevaertsAll I know is that they have the right #define in rockbox
01:36:31[Saint]Many of us only use the original firmware accidentally.
01:38:02antithesis_I don't like touch screens, though
01:38:36antithesis_[Saint] don't you mean incidentally?
01:38:40[Saint]Youll hate the future then.
01:38:47antithesis_I hate the present.
01:39:24[Saint]No, i mean accidentally. Like "ah, crap, whoops". ...and then booting rockbox instead.
01:41:15antithesis_lol
01:45:19antithesis_Wait, I can't even find half the supported models on Amazon
01:45:22antithesis_That makes things easier
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01:52:35[Saint]Some of the targets on the main page i would be willing to wager a reasonable sum on never seeing ever.
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06:03:53hexacatAnyboyd active?
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06:04:59hexacatI've got a question of sorts
06:13:25saratogajust ask
06:13:37saratogaworst case someone answers later and you can check the logs tomorrow
06:15:37hexacatI posted it on the forums at least
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06:22:12hexacatMy issue if anyone can help is I'm trying to configure my Sansa Fuse to have a control map that doesnt use scrolling
06:22:23hexacatBut rather just the directional and select/home buttons
06:22:34hexacatI assume a map from the clip or another device may work
06:23:39PurlingNayukiBy changing the keymap?
06:28:18[Saint]Doing so, in theory, is trivial.
06:28:51[Saint]I suspect you've had little input because working out sane keymaps are demanding enough.
06:29:11[Saint]Let alone crafting one for a use case a single person would use.
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11:44:01lorenzo92kugel (logs): I'm now testing your alsa patch on ypr0
11:49:50lorenzo92kugel: unfortunately it does not compile off the box ... kernel-unix.c:(.text+0x2e0): undefined reference to `call_tick_tasks'
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12:49:17kugellogbot: which patch exactly?
12:49:20kugellorenzo92: ^
12:50:27lorenzo92kugel: yes indeed you have 20 of them :D the alsa async stuff
12:50:44kugelit shouldnt touch kernel-unix.c
12:51:10lorenzo92kugel: yeah indeed, but it does because it has a patch depedency if i'm not mistaken
12:51:39kugeloh, no, cherry-pick this one
12:51:54kugelit just happens to be on the same branch as other patches
12:53:22lorenzo92ah ! okay because I was not sure if it was necessary or not ;) later i'll try again, then
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14:10:38copperwith a pretty theme, I hope!
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14:11:58kugelsure, cabbiev2
14:12:00kugel:)
14:12:23lebelliumpretty he said!
14:12:33kugelyes!
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21:06:29kugelgevaerts, amiconn: ping
21:06:46kugelor anyone else with a hwcodec target
21:07:00[Saint]"Hey, old dudes!"
21:07:30gevaertskugel: I don't have an actually working hwcodec target
21:07:32gevaertsWell
21:07:43gevaertsI do, but I need to find batteries :)
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21:09:33bluebrotherkugel: I have an Ondio but no time :)
21:09:59bluebrotheractually, I've got 2 Ondios donated a bit back, for giving them to interested developers. Would have done that during DevCon ...
21:10:34[Saint]Is there much left there to do that requires the actual device?
21:10:35bluebrotherso if you're interested I can send you one (though I won't be able to get that done this year)
21:10:51[Saint]I thought it mostly involved making sure current code still builds.
21:11:56gevaerts[Saint]: some work is more involved, and merely building is no guarantee
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21:25:47antithesis_Does the alarm clock allow you to wake up with your own music, an FM radio, or both?
21:26:37[Saint]Our fine manual should tell you this.
21:27:27gevaertsBut does it?
21:27:50[Saint]Well, if it doesn't, I'll fix it - how does that sound? :)
21:28:01gevaertsIt's a deal!
21:28:06gevaerts"Alarm Wake Up Screen: This option controls what the player does when it is woken
21:28:09gevaertsup by the alarm"
21:28:23gevaertsDoesn't really say what the possible options are
21:29:18[Saint]Ah. Hmmm. Should be fairly easy to fix.
21:29:58gevaertsantithesis_: on my fuzev2, the options are "resume playback", "recording" and "FM radio"
21:31:30[Saint]RTC timed recording seems like a bit of a niche.
21:31:40antithesis_nice
21:31:53antithesis_niches are good
21:31:57antithesis_I like niches. :)
21:35:19antithesis_And I can also record the radio? Wow.
21:38:46antithesis_Think I'm gonna order the Sansa Clip Zip. Any owners of it here?
21:38:51antithesis_How's the FM radio quality?
21:48:50[Saint]Didn't you say you hated touch screens?
21:48:55[Saint]I remember so.
21:49:04[Saint]If so, that is the *wrong* device for you, friend.
21:49:08gevaertshuh?
21:49:23gevaertsThe clip zip doesn't have a touchscreen
21:49:34*gevaerts sends [Saint] back to bed
21:49:39[Saint]Argh. Whoops. Fuze+ I'm thinking about isn;t it. Bah.
21:49:41gevaertsYou're not awake yet!
21:49:46[Saint]Clearly.
21:50:41[Saint]Anyhoo - regarding this manual edit, is it safe to assume that devices with alarm can use any of its input/playback mode as a wakeup screen?
21:50:47[Saint]Or are there weird cases to check for?
21:51:15gevaertsIt's safe to assume that checking the source will give the correct answer :)
21:51:37[Saint]Well, you're no fun. :)
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22:28:29kugelgevaerts: yea, batteries are old school
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22:47:27kugelbluebrother: I do have a Player, need to see if it still works
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