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00:15:04 | gevaerts | toehser: should be done now. Welcome! |
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06:32:06 | Bice | I'm trying to install rockbox on a Sansa Clip Zip, but when I run the Rockbox Utility program, I keep getting "Network error: Host download.rockbox.org not found". It's been giving me that error for the last three days. Any ideas? |
06:32:52 | Bice | I can bring up a web browser and go to download.rockbox.org and it brings up the file system, so it seems like I can connect to it. Why is the Utility program giving me that error? |
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11:45:42 | Hero | Hello? |
11:47:42 | Hero | Is anyone available to help me? |
11:47:56 | rela | wa? |
11:48:17 | copper | ask your question |
11:48:28 | Hero | I have an ipod 1st generation |
11:48:38 | Hero | I'm trying to install rockbox on it |
11:49:12 | copper | grayscale LCD? What storage capacity? |
11:49:54 | Hero | However, when I attempted to install the ipodpatcher, it seemed to only prefer ipod nano 2nd gen or above |
11:50:22 | Hero | I have version 1.1, 80 GB capacity |
11:50:59 | copper | so that's definitly NOT "1st generation" |
11:51:16 | Hero | The ipodpatcher doesn't recognize my device |
11:51:28 | copper | first gen is 5-10 GB |
11:51:51 | Hero | Either way, it doesn't recognize my device |
11:52:13 | copper | what model is it exactly |
11:52:21 | copper | is the front plate plastic or metal? |
11:52:27 | Hero | metal |
11:52:34 | Hero | I mean plastic |
11:52:36 | Hero | :( |
11:52:41 | copper | which is it |
11:52:56 | Hero | the back of it is metal |
11:53:02 | Hero | the front of it is plastic |
11:53:06 | copper | what color |
11:53:10 | Hero | black |
11:53:11 | Hero | :( |
11:53:55 | APLU | Hero: hi, you should have a Model No. on your ipod, what's the number ? |
11:54:46 | copper | when did you buy it |
11:54:57 | copper | and was it first hand or second hand? |
11:55:00 | copper | (new or used) |
11:55:02 | Hero | A1238 |
11:55:08 | Hero | that's a lot of questions |
11:55:13 | Hero | it's FAT32 format |
11:55:36 | Hero | Model number A1238 |
11:55:45 | Hero | Disc format FAT32 |
11:55:53 | Hero | I think that should be enough for info |
11:56:03 | Hero | It works like a normal ipod |
11:56:12 | Hero | It syncs with itunes just fine |
11:56:28 | copper | Hero: it's important because there are many different models, some of which require something special to install rockbox on it |
11:56:50 | APLU | Hero: ok that's an ipod classic fifth or six generation |
11:56:56 | Hero | Okay |
11:56:59 | copper | question is which |
11:57:02 | Hero | so that means it should work |
11:57:11 | copper | no |
11:57:14 | APLU | this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ipod_5th_Generation_white_rotated.png or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IPod_classic.png ? |
11:58:02 | * | copper blames Apple for the confusion |
11:58:26 | Hero | Apple Ipod Classic |
11:58:57 | Hero | Do you want to know where it was assembled as well? |
11:59:13 | APLU | hum let me guess, in china? :-P |
11:59:24 | Hero | Okay, so you at least know that |
11:59:35 | copper | so this one? http://www.cdmarket.com.ar/_NcmsImages.aspx/original/6874_ipodclassic_black_image2_20080909.jpg |
11:59:45 | copper | and NOT this one? http://makeswordswork.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ipod-classic-black.jpg |
11:59:55 | Hero | it's black |
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12:00:04 | Hero | but I was just letting you know that it was ipod classic |
12:00:23 | [Saint] | It doesn't matter what iteration of Classic it is...fuck. |
12:00:35 | [Saint] | Its a Classic. RbUtil CANNOT install on this device. |
12:00:46 | Hero | :( |
12:00:53 | Hero | Why not? |
12:01:23 | copper | [Saint]: I'm not convinced we've properly identified it |
12:01:28 | [Saint] | Because its currently an unsupported target. Rockbox Utility doesn't handle any unsupported targets. |
12:01:30 | copper | he said the front plate was plastic |
12:01:35 | Hero | It's properly identified copper |
12:01:38 | Hero | I'm not dumb |
12:01:45 | [Saint] | copper: he gave the serial. |
12:01:54 | [Saint] | all Classics have that serial, so it doesn;t really matter. |
12:01:55 | copper | [Saint]: serial is the same for other ipods |
12:01:57 | Hero | I gave the model number |
12:02:10 | copper | er, not serial, model number |
12:02:11 | Hero | I can give you the serial though if you need it |
12:02:19 | copper | and the front plate of the classic is metal, not plastic |
12:02:36 | Hero | Well, it's different from the back |
12:02:42 | Hero | the back is definitely metal |
12:02:43 | [Saint] | Well, assuming the model numer was correct. It can only be a Classic. |
12:02:53 | Hero | the model number is correct |
12:03:01 | Hero | there's no other possible number it can be |
12:03:03 | [Saint] | Then its a Classic. |
12:03:24 | [Saint] | It can be 80, 120, or 160GB, but, it'll still be a Classic. |
12:03:25 | Hero | So why is it the only ipod that won't work? |
12:03:56 | [Saint] | Because its an unsupported target. Rockbox Utility doesn't install for any unsupported targets. |
12:04:18 | [Saint] | Installation is currently handled seperately from the Rockbox project, by Freemyipod. |
12:04:33 | [Saint] | (and unsupported) |
12:04:43 | Hero | You don't have this information posted on your site |
12:04:49 | copper | sigh |
12:04:51 | Hero | It doesn't say |
12:04:58 | Hero | "does not work for ipod classic" |
12:05:41 | copper | http://km.support.apple.com/library/APPLE/APPLECARE_ALLGEOS/HT1353/HT1353_classic160.jpg |
12:05:46 | copper | so that's your iPod |
12:05:50 | copper | that one EXACTLY |
12:06:28 | [Saint] | What part of it being three possible variants are you missing, copper? |
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12:06:45 | [Saint] | WHat variant it is exactly is unimportant. |
12:06:56 | Hero | Maybe you'd be more comfortable if I sent you the information that itunes reports about this device |
12:07:01 | Hero | maybe that would convince you |
12:07:04 | copper | because the other black ipod is 5th gen, supported by rbutil |
12:07:10 | Hero | since the information I give is not enough |
12:07:21 | [Saint] | Hero: I'm convinced. |
12:07:24 | copper | Hero: anyway, the Classic port is listed on the front page as "unusable" |
12:07:35 | Hero | Itunes verifies that I have an ipod classic |
12:07:50 | Hero | it's BLACK on the front |
12:08:14 | copper | that is awfully unhelpful |
12:08:57 | Hero | Okay, I'll send you something that should help |
12:09:12 | [Saint] | Most of this conversation past getting the model number has been pointless. |
12:09:27 | [Saint] | http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation is the site you need. |
12:09:42 | Hero | http://s28.postimg.org/620tz4yrx/Hero_s_IPOD.png |
12:09:44 | [Saint] | #freemyipod-support is the channel you can get support for this tool from |
12:10:00 | Hero | I just sent a picture file |
12:10:04 | Hero | See if that helps |
12:11:49 | APLU | oh guys, while you are here, does anyone know what can I do to help with my problems: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2013-12/0007.shtml? |
12:13:25 | Hero | By the way, Saint, what will installing EmCORE do? |
12:13:29 | [Saint] | APLU: I would start by verifying the filesystem is clean |
12:13:50 | [Saint] | Hero: emCORE is a bootloader for Rockbox |
12:14:12 | [Saint] | It is currently the only way possible to boot Rockbox on this device. |
12:14:12 | Hero | Can you walk me through the steps please? |
12:14:24 | Hero | I already have found the correct download |
12:14:27 | copper | it's all explained on the freemyipod site |
12:14:29 | copper | step by step |
12:14:55 | Hero | I just want to make sure I don't screw it up if that's okay with you cooper |
12:15:40 | [7] | just try it, you can't do that much wrong |
12:15:58 | [Saint] | ^ this man right here wrote the thing, he knows ;) |
12:16:26 | copper | [Saint]: so all (actual) Classics have the A1238 model number? |
12:16:31 | [7] | if something goes wrong, worst case is typically having to go back to the apple firmware |
12:16:34 | copper | and none of the earlier iPods? |
12:16:41 | [Saint] | copper: correct |
12:16:54 | Hero | As soon as I go to install this, it says |
12:17:07 | APLU | [Saint]: dosfsck report FS as clean, but I will try to blank the device & restore/reinstall the ipod with iTunes and try rockbox again |
12:17:32 | [7] | Hero: I'd recommend to do the installation on win7 or linux though, win8 has been acting up |
12:17:34 | Hero | create file: Error 3 The system cannot find the path specified |
12:17:40 | Hero | I have win 7 |
12:17:47 | [7] | what does say that? |
12:18:02 | Hero | "could not open DFU device" |
12:18:12 | [7] | ok, so you don't have the right drivers installed |
12:18:13 | Hero | should itunes be open or closed? |
12:18:19 | [7] | itunes or non-itunes route? |
12:18:23 | [7] | ok, itunes |
12:18:27 | [7] | should be closed |
12:18:31 | [7] | (but installed) |
12:18:39 | [7] | and you need to use the itunes version of the bootstrapper |
12:18:46 | copper | "Make sure iTunes is closed" |
12:18:52 | Hero | I did use the itunes verion |
12:18:52 | [7] | there's also some trouble with the most recent itunes versions... |
12:18:54 | copper | that's what the installation documentation says |
12:18:58 | copper | you need to read it |
12:19:19 | copper | http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/DFUiTunes |
12:19:27 | Hero | I see that I didn't make sure itunes was closed |
12:19:29 | copper | written black on white |
12:19:30 | Hero | sorry |
12:19:55 | [7] | ok, so start over, kill everything apple-ish, and reboot the ipod into DFU again |
12:20:12 | Hero | they shouldn't have put "download this file" as the first thing I read |
12:20:37 | [Saint] | Its generally expected that people read the instructions before blindly charging ahead. |
12:20:45 | [Saint] | But, obviously we can't control this. |
12:20:58 | * | [7] places bets on where the next place where Hero will get stuck is :P |
12:21:02 | Hero | I was trying to follow the instructions |
12:21:10 | [7] | my take is the installer's welcome screen :) |
12:21:16 | Hero | I thought those were post-installation instructions |
12:22:29 | Hero | still not working |
12:22:35 | Hero | I made sure itunes was closed |
12:23:08 | Hero | Okay, I was supposed to kill some tasks |
12:23:22 | Hero | this is quite annoying to say the least |
12:23:56 | [7] | trust me, getting a custom driver (that could avoid this mess) to run on 64bit windows is an even larger mess |
12:24:16 | [7] | at least trying to automate it |
12:24:59 | [7] | zadig has worked surprisingly well though, we could start writing instructions for a third route based on that |
12:26:22 | [Saint] | Oh? Nice. |
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12:27:11 | copper | uh? |
12:27:15 | [Saint] | I recall looking at Zadig a while ago, it seems quite the powerful wee tool. |
12:27:23 | Hero | Still not working |
12:27:46 | [7] | what's showing in the device manager and on the ipod's screen? |
12:30:03 | Hero | Wow |
12:30:07 | Hero | I finally got it to work |
12:30:11 | Hero | Saint was right |
12:30:25 | Hero | I had to read every single instruction to figure it out |
12:30:31 | copper | ... |
12:30:52 | [7] | there's a reason for them to be there :) |
12:30:57 | copper | what do you think those instructions are there for |
12:31:07 | copper | to annoy users? |
12:31:24 | Hero | yes I do |
12:31:35 | Hero | I've installed thousands of sofware |
12:31:43 | Hero | most of them were automated |
12:31:52 | Hero | this is something like a manual install |
12:32:30 | Hero | It says UMS boot has been launched |
12:32:34 | Hero | Now what do I do? |
12:32:39 | copper | read the instructions |
12:32:40 | copper | PLEASE |
12:32:41 | [7] | I surely don't read every little bit of instructions either, but I both seem to be better at skimming through them to decide what's important and what isn't, and I actually start reading them literally when something is acting up... |
12:33:39 | Hero | cooper, I know I'm going to screw it up |
12:33:47 | Hero | that's why I need help |
12:33:49 | copper | if you don't read the instructions, that is likely, yes |
12:35:07 | copper | the process isn't easy because of Windows / Apple driver shennanigans, but at least the instructions are completely |
12:35:10 | copper | complete* |
12:35:19 | copper | they explain what to do, step by step |
12:35:25 | copper | which is exactly what you asked for |
12:35:30 | copper | step by step instructions |
12:36:35 | copper | and it's a bit offensive to completely ignore written instructions and instead ask for live people's time and attention |
12:37:25 | Hero | Well, I made it to the emcore installer |
12:37:31 | Hero | thank goodness |
12:37:42 | Hero | cooper, I came here to get help |
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12:38:02 | copper | first, it's copper, not cooper |
12:38:11 | copper | second, we can't help if you don't read the written instructions |
12:38:20 | Hero | The thing is |
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12:38:39 | Hero | getting to the emcore installer is the end of the instructions |
12:39:02 | [7] | now you should have instructions on the screen of the ipod? |
12:39:11 | copper | at what instruction are you right now, exactly? |
12:39:11 | [7] | you're now getting into the automated part |
12:39:46 | Hero | I had to press menu and play buttons simultaneously |
12:40:05 | Hero | Now it's at boot menu |
12:40:13 | Hero | and I see a rockbox logo |
12:40:20 | Hero | but no more instruction |
12:40:27 | [7] | there are some more on the wiki |
12:40:31 | copper | jesus |
12:40:33 | [7] | how to properly install rockbox |
12:40:39 | copper | "Even though Rockbox starts, the installation is not complete yet. Continue reading and following the instructions to the end of the page!" |
12:40:41 | Hero | :( |
12:40:44 | copper | in bold red letters |
12:40:49 | Hero | sorry |
12:40:57 | Hero | I'm so dumb |
12:41:16 | Hero | I don't see the "more instruction" |
12:41:26 | Hero | where is that part [7] ? |
12:41:33 | copper | Hero: please link to the instruction page that you are at right now |
12:41:40 | [7] | the "more instructions" is basically extracting the rockbox zip file onto the ipod and rebooting it |
12:42:12 | Hero | http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/UMSboot |
12:42:23 | Hero | [7] can you link me to that part? |
12:42:25 | Hero | I don't see it |
12:42:38 | copper | you don't see the line that I quoted? |
12:42:39 | copper | in red? |
12:43:11 | [7] | ouch, who messed up that wiki page |
12:43:22 | Hero | I'm using ice chat cooper |
12:43:24 | [7] | those headlines make it appear as if those were linux-only instructions |
12:43:31 | Hero | It didn't highlight anything you said in red |
12:43:45 | [7] | the line is in read on the wiki, not here |
12:43:59 | copper | oh god… |
12:44:21 | Hero | I agree with [7] |
12:44:26 | Hero | It says on LINUX |
12:44:34 | Hero | I have win 7 |
12:44:41 | Hero | so I dis-regarded that part |
12:46:31 | [7] | I've reverted that wiki change for now |
12:46:37 | [7] | now it should be more clear |
12:47:03 | Ketturi | *panic* in lastest dev build |
12:47:38 | copper | [7]: maybe you should update the link to the rockbox build archive |
12:47:51 | copper | so that people download the latest build instead of that 2 year old build |
12:48:11 | Hero | thanks [7] |
12:48:23 | Hero | and saint |
12:48:30 | [7] | copper: I'll happily do so (and update the fallback image) once we've fixed that USB mess |
12:48:37 | Hero | cooper, you should work on your people skills |
12:48:54 | [7] | Hero: I wouldn't say that |
12:49:13 | Ketturi | *PANIC* playlist_resume(): OOM pc:000122F44 sp:4000AC20 A: 0004C7D0 bt end |
12:49:29 | copper | Hero: it's COPPER |
12:49:35 | copper | you really cannot read |
12:49:58 | copper | 11:38:03 UTC <copper> first, it's copper, not cooper |
12:50:12 | copper | you keep calling me cooper |
12:50:27 | Hero | I have a friend named cooper |
12:50:32 | Hero | It's a bad habit |
12:50:33 | copper | I'm not your friend |
12:50:40 | * | [7] wonders if icechat doesn't have name autocompletion :P |
12:50:57 | Hero | It does, I just don't know how to use it |
12:51:08 | Hero | I'm not tech savvy |
12:51:20 | [7] | typically type the first one or two letters as a unique prefix and hit tab |
12:51:20 | Ketturi | c and TAB... |
12:51:22 | copper | oh, you're not? |
12:51:28 | copper | I thought you installed THOUSANDS of software |
12:51:36 | Hero | I know that comes as a surprise to you cooper |
12:51:41 | Hero | but no, I'm not |
12:51:43 | copper | and if you're not tech savvy, why do you insist on ignoring written instruction? |
12:51:45 | [7] | lol |
12:51:50 | [7] | and again |
12:51:50 | [7] | wow |
12:51:58 | Hero | well, put it this way |
12:52:07 | Hero | Compared to you guys, I'm not |
12:52:27 | copper | COPPER |
12:52:32 | copper | C.O.P.P.E.R. |
12:52:38 | copper | god damn it |
12:52:40 | [7] | so... someone gonna fix USB on the classic? |
12:52:43 | Hero | I don't like that word |
12:52:45 | Ketturi | but yeah, there is sometingh fishy going on with lastests iPod 5.5G build... |
12:52:53 | Hero | because it reminds me of cop |
12:53:11 | Hero | and it actually auto-completed that time |
12:53:15 | [Saint] | Lets keep this on topic, shall we? |
12:53:31 | [Saint] | And nice things up a bit. |
12:53:51 | Hero | Saint and [7] helped me completely |
12:53:57 | Hero | which I appreciate |
12:56:02 | [Saint] | Hero: Oh, before you go - http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-build.html |
12:56:11 | Ketturi | and now whole ipod is not detected as disk drive... |
12:56:20 | [Saint] | The iPod Classic doesn;t have a manual yet, due to being unsupported currently. |
12:56:35 | [Saint] | But, the manual for the iPod Video is basically the same. |
12:56:57 | [Saint] | With the exception of supporting a couple of features the Classic doesn't at this point. Like FM and Recording. |
12:57:12 | Hero | Do I have to install anything else? |
12:57:18 | [Saint] | No. |
12:57:25 | Hero | thank goodness |
12:57:42 | copper | optionally: fonts and themes |
12:57:51 | [Saint] | That link is just a link to some documentation you may find useful |
12:58:01 | Hero | Okay |
12:58:08 | copper | assuming you did follow the final instructions and installed the latest rockbox build |
12:58:18 | Hero | To be honest, all I wanted to do is to be able to play .flac files |
12:58:35 | Hero | on my ipod |
12:58:46 | copper | you also might want to go in the settings menu of emCORE and set Rockbox as the default boot option, and set the quick boot parameter thingy |
12:59:07 | copper | so that your iPod boots straight into Rockbox when you turn it on |
12:59:29 | Hero | copper, how do you set the quick boot thingy? |
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13:00:18 | copper | turn off the ipod (long press play), turn it back on |
13:00:29 | copper | use the scroll wheel to show the tools icon |
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13:01:56 | copper | instructions for that are missing from the emcore wiki, btw |
13:03:34 | copper | click on the emcore tools icon, -> settings -> Default action: Rockbox |
13:03:44 | copper | and "fastboot action" -> rockbox |
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13:06:17 | Hero | the default is set to rockbox but rockbox doesn't load automatically when I turn on the ipod |
13:06:26 | copper | what I just said |
13:06:36 | copper | 12:03:45 UTC <copper> and "fastboot action" -> rockbox |
13:08:27 | Hero | Okay, that worked |
13:08:43 | Hero | anything else I need to do? |
13:08:58 | copper | did you download http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-build.html ? |
13:09:05 | copper | er |
13:09:06 | copper | no |
13:09:28 | Hero | What do I need that for? |
13:09:30 | copper | http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipod6g.zip |
13:09:32 | copper | this |
13:09:36 | copper | that's the latest build |
13:09:55 | copper | did you download that and unpack it onto your iPod while mounted as an external drive on your PC? |
13:09:55 | Hero | so do I have to follow a long list of instructions again? |
13:09:58 | copper | no |
13:10:26 | Hero | hang on |
13:10:34 | copper | boot rockbox, plug into your PC via USB, unpack that zip file onto your iPod that is mounted like an external hard drive |
13:11:12 | copper | then unplug your iPod; the screen should read something like "new version of rockbox detected, would you like to reboot?" |
13:11:16 | copper | say yes |
13:11:22 | Hero | hang on |
13:11:26 | copper | the iPod will reboot, running the latest version of Rockbox |
13:11:34 | Hero | let me see if I can try that without screwing anything up |
13:11:59 | copper | tell your unpacking software to replace existing files |
13:12:45 | Hero | it's too late |
13:12:50 | Hero | I already unpacked |
13:13:00 | Hero | what should I do? |
13:13:16 | copper | what? |
13:13:36 | copper | didn't your unpacking software ask about overwriting existing files? |
13:13:37 | Hero | I unpacked the files without telling my software to replace existing files |
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13:13:44 | Hero | no, it did not |
13:14:00 | copper | then I assume you never actually installed rockbox |
13:14:14 | Hero | Hmmm |
13:14:18 | copper | because otherwise, it would have asked you for confirmation |
13:14:31 | Hero | okay, so what should I do now at this ponit |
13:14:38 | copper | unplug the ipod |
13:14:47 | Hero | it's unplugged |
13:14:55 | copper | what does it say on the iPod screen |
13:15:17 | Hero | I'm on the main page of Rockbox |
13:15:35 | copper | long press play until the iPod turns off |
13:15:40 | Hero | rockbox-ipod6g is in my files |
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13:15:55 | copper | what |
13:15:57 | copper | the zip file?? |
13:16:07 | Hero | not the zip file |
13:16:15 | Hero | just the file that was inside the zip |
13:17:04 | copper | "THE" file? |
13:17:13 | Hero | yes |
13:17:16 | copper | one single file? |
13:17:19 | Hero | yes |
13:17:36 | Hero | I thought that was what I was supposed to do |
13:17:51 | copper | the zip file doesn't contain one file |
13:17:56 | Hero | actually, it's only showing up as a folder |
13:18:03 | Hero | but there doesn't seem to be anything in it |
13:18:56 | copper | you need to unpack the zip file at the root of the iPod |
13:19:27 | Hero | that's what I thought I did |
13:19:28 | copper | it will create a .rockbox directory at the root of your iPod, containing a whole bunch of files and directories, visible from your PC |
13:19:56 | Hero | that's what I believe I have set up already |
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13:20:52 | copper | let's check something first |
13:20:58 | copper | long press "play" to turn off the ipod |
13:21:01 | copper | then turn it back on |
13:21:07 | copper | let me know when you're done |
13:21:32 | copper | while unplugged, I mean |
13:21:37 | Hero | I'm done |
13:21:38 | copper | unplug, turn off, turn back on |
13:21:40 | Hero | now what |
13:21:44 | copper | so you see the rockbox menu? |
13:21:50 | Hero | yes |
13:22:00 | copper | go in the System menu |
13:22:07 | copper | then "Rockbox Info" |
13:22:11 | Hero | oka |
13:22:19 | copper | what does the Version line read? |
13:22:59 | Hero | r31515-120101 |
13:23:04 | copper | sigh |
13:23:11 | Hero | r31516-120101 |
13:23:14 | Hero | sorry |
13:23:27 | Hero | I told you I would screw it up |
13:24:43 | Hero | copper, help me |
13:24:48 | copper | can some other Windows user please guide Hero into unpacking the latest build onto the root of the iPod? |
13:25:24 | copper | let's try it this way |
13:25:32 | Hero | okay |
13:25:38 | copper | Hero: unpack the rockbox-ipod6g.zip file onto your hard drive, not the ipod |
13:25:59 | copper | it should produce a directory that's called '.rockbox' (notice the leading point) |
13:26:08 | copper | yes? |
13:26:14 | Hero | just a second |
13:26:22 | Hero | I just want to know something |
13:26:29 | Hero | what did I do wrong the first time |
13:26:38 | Hero | I mean, we are assuming I did it wrong the first time |
13:26:40 | * | [Saint] points out that Rockbox Utility will work *now* |
13:26:42 | copper | I don't know because I can't see what you're doing |
13:26:44 | Hero | which is unfair |
13:27:20 | copper | [Saint]: is it foolproof? |
13:27:35 | Hero | the .rockbox file is already on my ipod root directory |
13:27:43 | copper | Hero: it's an old one |
13:27:49 | copper | it's almost 3 years old |
13:28:00 | copper | er |
13:28:03 | copper | 2 years old |
13:28:13 | * | [Saint] points out that the instructions don;t actually state that one should flash an updated build |
13:28:20 | copper | I know |
13:28:24 | [Saint] | as, one shouldn;t, generally speaking. |
13:28:44 | Hero | Hang on |
13:28:50 | Hero | I'm trying something on my own |
13:28:53 | Hero | I'll get back to you |
13:28:55 | copper | [Saint]: if he comes back here and complains about some rockbox problem on a 2 year old build, won't you guys request that he install the latest build? |
13:29:23 | Hero | Ha |
13:29:28 | Hero | I tried something on my own |
13:29:46 | Hero | and now it asks about boot change |
13:29:53 | copper | ok, reboot |
13:29:58 | Hero | now it says |
13:30:09 | Hero | version 8566cd7-131224 |
13:30:12 | Hero | boom |
13:30:15 | copper | congratulations |
13:30:44 | Hero | My tech-savvy skills are on empty but I still managed to remember something |
13:30:51 | copper | you are now running the latest version of Rockbox for the iPod Classic |
13:31:03 | Hero | It's about time |
13:31:20 | Hero | I didn't think I would make it this far |
13:31:32 | Hero | I couldn't have done it without copper, saint and 7 |
13:31:43 | copper | you can now install extra fonts http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.13/rockbox-fonts-3.13.zip and some custom themes http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=ipodvideo |
13:32:09 | copper | many themes requires one or more font from the font pack linked above |
13:32:15 | [Saint] | But I really recommend Rockbox Utility for that. |
13:32:16 | copper | requireù |
13:32:20 | copper | require* |
13:32:39 | Hero | What's Rockbox Utility |
13:32:45 | copper | http://www.rockbox.org/download/ |
13:32:47 | copper | this |
13:32:51 | copper | the "Installer" |
13:33:03 | copper | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility |
13:33:09 | [Saint] | As long as you can tick the "unsupported targets" box, Rockbox Utility should autodetect the device. |
13:33:11 | Hero | will I be able to install it with no problem? |
13:33:53 | [Saint] | One should hope so. Its supposed to be fool proof. :) |
13:34:11 | [Saint] | The only probalem is it can't *install* Rockbox on the Classic. |
13:34:25 | [Saint] | But, it can update it, and install themes and other files. |
13:34:26 | copper | but Rockbox is already installed on your system |
13:34:31 | copper | so that's fine |
13:34:43 | Hero | should I unpack the files to the root directory again? |
13:34:53 | copper | yes, or use the Rockbox Utility |
13:35:44 | Hero | it recognizes the device but says my configuration is invalid |
13:36:05 | [Saint] | that path is probably wrong. |
13:36:11 | [Saint] | *the path |
13:36:21 | Hero | it's not |
13:36:28 | Hero | the path is E |
13:36:45 | Hero | I think the problem is that the utlity doesn't recognize ipod classic |
13:36:50 | copper | 12:33:10 UTC <[Saint]> As long as you can tick the "unsupported targets" box, Rockbox Utility should autodetect the device. |
13:36:53 | [Saint] | It does. |
13:36:58 | Hero | it doesn't even have it as selectable from the menu |
13:37:25 | Hero | when I click auto-detect, it stops working |
13:37:38 | copper | did you tick the "unsupported targets" box? |
13:37:41 | [Saint] | There should be a very obvious checkbox to show disabled targets on the UI. |
13:38:06 | copper | was gonna say |
13:38:38 | Hero | there's no "unsupported targets" |
13:38:52 | copper | it's actually called "disabled targets" |
13:39:20 | Hero | Okay I found it |
13:39:21 | Hero | but |
13:39:28 | Hero | now it says mountpoint unwriteable |
13:39:33 | copper | then you'll find the "iPod Classic (6th gen)" entry under "Apple" |
13:39:45 | Hero | copper, I made it that far already |
13:39:52 | Hero | but now a new error shows up |
13:39:58 | Hero | mountpoint unwriteable |
13:40:10 | [Saint] | That's...odd. |
13:40:10 | Hero | says I need to fix errors before continuing |
13:40:30 | [Saint] | Argh. Probably wasn;t unmounted cleanly. GAh. |
13:40:42 | Hero | How do I fix it? |
13:41:07 | copper | Hero: you didn't click "eject" before unplugging the iPod? |
13:41:23 | Hero | probably not |
13:41:24 | copper | or "eject safely" or something like that |
13:41:31 | Hero | hmmm |
13:41:33 | copper | you never do that, even with USB flash drives? |
13:41:42 | Hero | never |
13:41:48 | copper | Yikes. |
13:41:58 | Hero | never ran into a problem until now though |
13:42:33 | copper | I'll leave the rest to Windows users |
13:42:43 | Hero | If I were still in the military they would demote me for negligence |
13:42:44 | [Saint] | I'm entirely unfamiliar with chkdsk on Windows. |
13:42:59 | Hero | I have to run chkdsk to fix it? |
13:43:49 | copper | the emcore installation page says "Safely eject (or unmount on Linux) your iPod's hard disk drive" |
13:44:00 | [Saint] | Assuming that's the fault, it may be able to recover it, yes. |
13:44:01 | copper | but I guess that requires a screenshot of what exactly that is |
13:44:28 | copper | which was there until [7] removed it |
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13:44:40 | Hero | copper, we ran into problems and I had to keep plugging and unplugging |
13:44:53 | Hero | initially, I did eject |
13:44:53 | copper | http://kb.sandisk.com/euf/assets/images/faqs/309/id104-w7-eject.gif |
13:44:57 | [Saint] | Running chkdsk with the auto fix and badblocks options may do the trick. |
13:44:59 | copper | that's "safely ejecting" ^^ |
13:45:18 | Hero | copper, read my previous comment |
13:45:27 | copper | Hero: you need to "safely eject" every time |
13:45:33 | copper | with all external storage devices |
13:45:34 | Hero | oh well |
13:45:45 | Hero | what's the downside of not doing so? |
13:45:50 | [Saint] | This |
13:45:51 | copper | USB flash drives, USB HDD drives, iPods, sd cards, everything |
13:46:04 | copper | Hero: file system corruption |
13:46:05 | Hero | I never ran into any problems until now |
13:46:13 | copper | you got lucky |
13:46:27 | Hero | to me, this is just an installation error |
13:46:37 | Hero | or an error related to installation |
13:47:19 | Hero | I watched youtube videos. Even those tech guys remove their usb without ejecting |
13:47:55 | copper | if they didn't write data to it, the flash drive filesystem might be ok |
13:48:08 | copper | but here you wrote data onto the ipod |
13:48:22 | Hero | I see |
13:48:29 | Hero | oh well |
13:48:47 | Hero | I've been using these devices for years and never used eject |
13:48:58 | Hero | so I didn't think it would be a big deal |
13:49:09 | copper | what do you think the option is there for |
13:49:14 | Hero | I don't have tech savvy buddies to hang out with to warn me about these things |
13:49:50 | Hero | It's there for people who like to be "uber" safe |
13:50:00 | copper | No. |
13:50:13 | copper | it's there to prevent file system fuckups like the one you're experiencing right now |
13:50:24 | APLU | [Saint]: I've fully blanked (with dd) and I did a restore of my nano2g with itunes, then I installed RB, it still crash quickly with RB 3.10 |
13:50:39 | Hero | I see |
13:50:53 | copper | Hero: Windows (and other operating systems) don't immediately write data onto USB storage devices |
13:51:02 | copper | the data is fist cached, and then written later |
13:51:19 | Hero | The average joe doesn't know stuff like this |
13:51:22 | copper | if you unplug the device without "safely ejecting", some of the data may have been written, and some not |
13:51:26 | Hero | we just buy the devices and use them |
13:51:31 | copper | and / or incorrectly written |
13:51:31 | Hero | then learn from trial and error |
13:51:42 | APLU | I have "SWI at 6A60" on my display :( |
13:51:59 | copper | Hero: I have no idea where the average Joe learns how to use computers |
13:52:32 | copper | and since nothing comes with a manual anymore… |
13:52:39 | copper | (and since no-one reads them anyway) |
13:52:47 | Hero | I never sat in on an official computer course. |
13:52:47 | copper | (like you earlierà |
13:52:49 | copper | (like you earlier) |
13:53:06 | Hero | When I was little, I was sent to the computer room to play games on it |
13:53:22 | Hero | and I learned how to use the computer on my own |
13:53:49 | Hero | They didn't give us any manuals to read ever |
13:54:01 | Hero | and yes, you can buy usb devices without manuals now |
13:54:14 | Hero | so it's negligence on the part of the people that sell such devices |
13:54:16 | copper | I remember back when the Macintosh IICX booted into an animated tutorial on how to use the computer |
13:54:24 | PurlingNayuki | Any committer here? |
13:54:46 | PurlingNayuki | My fix at G#700 should be commited. |
13:54:47 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #700 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/700 : by PurlingNayuki (changes/00/700/1) |
13:56:17 | PurlingNayuki | And a new volume limiter feature at G#697 needs more testers and reviewrs. |
13:56:18 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #697 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/697 : Implement volume limiter feature by PurlingNayuki (changes/97/697/4) |
13:57:37 | Hero | Never owned a mac ever |
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13:59:13 | copper | Hero: if it's any consolation, you pretty much chose the most problematic device to install Rockbox on |
13:59:32 | copper | which is why the Classic is listed as "unusable" on the front page of the Rockbox web site |
14:00 |
14:00:26 | Hero | that combined with my un-techsavvyness equals recipe for disaster |
14:00:32 | copper | your first mistake was to incorrectly identify your iPod, which is very common (Apple is to blame for that) |
14:00:55 | copper | which is why I asked you a whole bunch of questions, because users almost always get it wrong |
14:01:10 | Hero | I feel like I got everything wrong |
14:01:11 | copper | now thanks to [Saint], I know just to ask for the model number at the back of the iPod |
14:01:26 | Hero | if this was an exam, I failed terribly |
14:01:45 | copper | Hero: when doing an exam, it helps to read the questions fully |
14:01:59 | copper | swap "questions" for "instructions", and you got the idea |
14:02:20 | Hero | When doing an exam, I have to read the instructions and the questions carefully |
14:02:37 | Hero | unfortunately, I usually screw up at least one of them or both |
14:03:21 | copper | anyway |
14:03:34 | copper | you should use whatever Windows tool to "fix" the filesystem on your iPod |
14:03:49 | copper | or you could just reformat the partition with emCORE and install Rockbox again |
14:04:07 | copper | the second option is more "fool proof" IMO |
14:04:17 | copper | it ensures you've got a clean install |
14:04:19 | Hero | wait |
14:04:25 | Hero | something is wrong with my ipod |
14:04:35 | Hero | it shut off and won't turn back on |
14:04:43 | Hero | the battery was completely full before |
14:05:03 | Hero | wtf |
14:05:32 | copper | I have to go for a bit |
14:05:33 | APLU | Hero: try to reset it, check the lock button |
14:05:43 | Hero | there we go |
14:05:50 | Hero | I was worried for a second there |
14:06:35 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
14:07:26 | Hero | Now there seems to be the equivalent of a blue screen on the ipod |
14:07:52 | Hero | somebody help |
14:13:34 | Hero | my computer is not recognizing my ipod anymore |
14:16:54 | APLU | Hero: i don't know if your model have a disk mode, mine as and I can restore it with itunes in this mode whatever happen :) |
14:17:21 | Hero | Hang on let me try something |
14:19:05 | Hero | This is my first time running itunes since installing rockbox |
14:19:27 | copper | your Rockboxed iPod won't work with iTunes |
14:19:27 | Hero | I think itunes is a bit confused about my current configuration |
14:21:08 | Hero | Okay, so I'm screwed then |
14:21:30 | copper | why screwed |
14:21:45 | Hero | because my computer won't recognize my ipod anymore |
14:22:07 | copper | Hero: unplug the ipod, turn it off (long press play) |
14:22:09 | Hero | and there are many strange things happening now |
14:22:17 | Hero | I did that already |
14:22:18 | copper | then press play and keep pressing play while it boots |
14:22:23 | copper | it should bring you to the emcore menu |
14:22:29 | Hero | It will re-boot again |
14:22:30 | Hero | but |
14:22:35 | Hero | it will eventually freeze up |
14:22:47 | copper | please do what I just said |
14:22:50 | Hero | that's what's happened the least several times |
14:22:54 | copper | that should boot into emcore instead of rockbox |
14:22:58 | Hero | Okay, I'm just letting you know what will happen |
14:23:23 | copper | no, emcore should boot fine |
14:23:27 | copper | not rockbox, emcore |
14:23:39 | copper | let me know when you have the emcore menu |
14:23:39 | Hero | bro |
14:23:46 | Hero | nothing happens when I hold down play |
14:23:50 | Hero | I have to re-set |
14:24:00 | Hero | my ipod is in freeze mode |
14:24:19 | copper | then long press menu and play until you're at the emcore meny |
14:24:22 | copper | menu* |
14:24:33 | copper | er |
14:24:35 | copper | select and menu |
14:24:52 | Hero | No, it still auto-boots to rockbox |
14:25:04 | copper | I said, keep the buttons pressed until it boots into emcore |
14:25:25 | Hero | I had to reset the device copper |
14:25:30 | Hero | do you understand? |
14:25:48 | Hero | once I did that, it boots to rockbox |
14:26:06 | copper | because you didn't hold the buttons while it booted |
14:26:35 | Hero | Okay, I'm in the boot menu |
14:26:38 | Hero | now what? |
14:26:47 | copper | you're inside emcore? |
14:26:51 | Hero | yes |
14:26:55 | copper | with the shutdown icon and the rockbox icon? |
14:27:00 | Hero | you think my computer will recognize now? |
14:27:09 | copper | no |
14:27:12 | copper | it's not over |
14:27:23 | Hero | What should I do now? |
14:27:27 | copper | use the scrollwheel to go into the emcore Tools menu |
14:27:45 | Hero | okay.... |
14:27:58 | copper | in the Tools menu, select "Reformat data partition" |
14:28:03 | Hero | really? |
14:28:05 | copper | yes |
14:28:14 | Hero | I have to start all back over again? |
14:28:19 | copper | not all over |
14:28:23 | copper | since emcore is already installed |
14:28:42 | Hero | I see a list of no's and yes's |
14:28:49 | copper | select yes |
14:29:09 | Hero | lol, I think I know why it is configured that way |
14:29:23 | copper | once the data partition is reformated, you'll be able to boot into the fallback Rockbox image |
14:29:30 | Hero | I see |
14:29:41 | copper | then while the fallback Rockbox is running, connect to your computer and unpack the latest rockbox build zip |
14:29:52 | Hero | okay hang on |
14:30:12 | copper | and make sure to SAFELY EJECT before you unplug the ipod |
14:30:15 | Hero | it recognizes my device again |
14:30:15 | copper | ALWAYS |
14:30:21 | Hero | okay |
14:30:31 | copper | yes that was the point of that operation |
14:30:35 | Hero | that's a difficult habit to re-intoduce |
14:30:42 | Hero | but we'll see what happens |
14:31:01 | copper | if you don't safely eject before unplugging, you will almost certainly run into troubles like earlier |
14:31:06 | copper | sooner or later |
14:31:22 | Hero | No, that was my first time ever running into such trouble |
14:31:50 | copper | feel free to disregard my advice, but then I won't help you fix it a second time |
14:32:05 | Hero | You already showed me how to fix it |
14:32:18 | Hero | I won't forget how to fix it if it ever happens again |
14:32:34 | copper | except that's the radical approach, which erases all data on your iPod |
14:32:56 | copper | so you'll have to reinstall rockbox and copy all your music files all over again |
14:33:02 | Hero | I don't plan to have much data on it anyways |
14:33:32 | Hero | Before installing rockbox, I only had three songs on the previous os |
14:34:18 | copper | so you bought the MP3 player with the largest storage capacity |
14:34:24 | copper | Makes sense. |
14:34:26 | Hero | Just in case |
14:34:41 | copper | Oh, yes, with three songs, you're pretty safe. |
14:35:03 | Hero | Actually, one time I needed to re-install win 7 |
14:35:17 | Hero | I moved all my computer files to my ipod before doing so |
14:35:26 | Hero | so it was useful for that |
14:36:15 | Hero | My ipod is the only external usb/hard drive I have right now |
14:36:24 | Hero | other than my tablet |
14:37:42 | copper | anyway, did you re-install the latest Rockbox build? (unpack the rockbox zip file at the root of the mounted iPod) |
14:39:13 | copper | [Saint] and whoever: shouldn't there be a rockbox IRC channel just for support? #rockbox-support or somethng |
14:39:36 | copper | to clear the noise from the actual dev talk |
14:39:48 | Hero | yes |
14:39:53 | Hero | I re-installed |
14:40:00 | Hero | let me try the utility thing now |
14:40:10 | copper | Hero: the Version line reads like before? |
14:40:12 | Hero | Also, I remembered to eject safely |
14:40:25 | copper | *-131224 ? |
14:40:26 | Hero | yes I made sure it started with an 8 |
14:40:34 | Hero | yes, it is the latest version |
14:40:40 | copper | ok |
14:44:12 | Hero | The mountpoint is still unwritable |
14:44:18 | Hero | we haven't fixed that problem yet |
14:44:20 | Hero | but hang on |
14:44:25 | Hero | I was trying to do that before |
14:45:15 | Hero | interesting |
14:45:35 | Hero | I think it is the utility itself that is causing this new problem I am having |
14:46:09 | Hero | the ipod is acting up again. Computer won't recognize it again |
14:46:22 | Hero | this happened after I tried running the rockbox utility |
14:46:39 | Hero | basically, it doesn't like the configuration of my ipod |
14:52:14 | Hero | the check disk feature doesn't seem to want to work |
14:54:11 | Hero | Actually |
14:54:28 | Hero | I think the problem is rockbox itself |
14:55:00 | Hero | I reformatted the partition, then I unpacked the files back on to my ipod |
14:55:07 | Hero | then I safely removed it |
14:55:22 | copper | and then rebooted the iPod? |
14:55:27 | Hero | then I turned it back off and on |
14:55:43 | Hero | and then I tried reconnecting it back to the computer |
14:55:51 | Hero | the computer won't recognize it |
14:56:15 | Hero | I'm convinced that it is rockbox itself that is causing this |
14:56:25 | copper | what's on your iPod's screen when that happens? |
14:56:36 | Hero | currently nothing |
14:56:39 | Hero | it shuts off |
14:56:56 | Hero | by itself |
14:57:04 | copper | are you sure it's not just the display that times out? |
14:57:09 | copper | touch the scrollwheel |
14:57:16 | Hero | trust me |
14:57:19 | Hero | it's not that |
14:57:33 | Hero | it doesn't do anything when I touch the scroll wheel or anything else |
14:57:42 | copper | never heard of that issue |
14:57:44 | Hero | I have to reset the device in order for it to turn back on |
14:58:39 | Hero | How many people do you know that attempts to use rockbox with ipod classic gen 6 |
14:58:52 | copper | lots |
14:58:59 | Hero | hmmm |
14:59:01 | copper | it's actually quite popular |
14:59:09 | Hero | I guess |
14:59:26 | Hero | Well, it's back on now |
14:59:33 | Hero | I'm wondering what I should do from here |
14:59:34 | copper | and I'm using it myself |
14:59:39 | copper | on my iPod Classic |
14:59:53 | Hero | interesting |
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15:00:02 | copper | but the port has known USB problems |
15:00:09 | copper | maybe you're just running into those |
15:00:35 | Hero | what port? |
15:00:36 | copper | you can try this: turn off the iPod, then turn it back on while keeping a button pressed, to boot into emCORE |
15:00:53 | copper | the Rockbox port for the iPod Classic |
15:01:17 | copper | from the emCORE menu, go into Tools, then select "Run Rockbox fallback image" |
15:01:34 | copper | then when the Rockbox fallback image is running, connect the iPod to your PC via USB |
15:01:38 | copper | see if that fixes it |
15:01:49 | Hero | booting into emcore doesn't help the computer recognize the device after what I am now calling "the crash" |
15:01:56 | copper | the rockbox fallback image is an old build that supposedly works better over USB |
15:02:26 | copper | I didn't say to connect via USB while emCORE is running |
15:02:28 | Hero | so after "the crash" nothing I do will cause the computer to recognize the ipod unless I reformat and re-load the rockbox files |
15:02:38 | copper | did you even try what I just said |
15:02:58 | Hero | Yes |
15:02:59 | Hero | of course |
15:03:31 | copper | then ask [7] |
15:04:32 | Hero | actually |
15:04:40 | Hero | once I run the fall back image |
15:04:53 | Hero | the computer is able to recognize the ipod |
15:04:57 | Hero | so what does this mean? |
15:07:05 | copper | sigh |
15:07:10 | copper | that's what I told you to do |
15:07:17 | Hero | Ya, bro |
15:07:18 | Hero | and I did it |
15:07:22 | Hero | nothing to sigh about |
15:07:26 | copper | 14:02:39 UTC <copper> did you even try what I just said |
15:07:26 | copper | 14:02:59 UTC <Hero> Yes |
15:07:26 | copper | 14:03:00 UTC <Hero> of course |
15:07:32 | Hero | bro |
15:07:38 | Hero | I know you told me to do it and I did |
15:07:45 | Hero | we're moving on now |
15:07:47 | copper | 14:01:50 UTC <Hero> booting into emcore doesn't help the computer recognize the device after what I am now calling "the crash" |
15:07:58 | Hero | forget about that |
15:08:04 | Hero | that was just my incompetence talking |
15:08:13 | copper | yes, well, it's tiresome |
15:08:22 | Hero | don't give up on me now |
15:08:26 | Hero | I've gotten this far |
15:08:30 | copper | I should have given up long ago |
15:08:53 | Hero | It's the holidays bro. Don't give up your good spirits |
15:08:55 | Hero | please |
15:09:02 | copper | didn't they teach you rigor at school |
15:09:09 | Hero | I'm almost there |
15:09:16 | copper | or are you still in school |
15:09:17 | Hero | Just need to figure out this last part |
15:09:21 | copper | and they didn't cover that part |
15:09:32 | Hero | What does rigor have to do with this problem I'm having |
15:09:55 | copper | rigor has everything to do with carefully reading instructions and listening to people who are trying to help |
15:10:01 | copper | and not assuming anything |
15:10:55 | Hero | I did it to the best of my ability |
15:10:58 | copper | because as it is now, me and others have had to repeat stuff several times to get you to do the right things |
15:11:04 | Hero | I'm sorry if I failed miserably |
15:11:15 | Hero | I don't know about all of that |
15:11:22 | copper | you don't know anything |
15:11:25 | copper | which is the whole point |
15:11:35 | Hero | I'm not supposed to |
15:11:41 | Hero | This isn't my area of expertise |
15:11:44 | copper | yes |
15:11:53 | copper | which is why you need to show more rigor |
15:11:59 | Hero | Okay. |
15:12:01 | Hero | I will try |
15:12:01 | copper | you can't take shortcuts |
15:12:03 | Hero | let's move on |
15:12:05 | copper | you can't make any assumptions |
15:12:29 | copper | anyway |
15:12:35 | copper | what is the current state of your ipod right now |
15:12:42 | copper | plugged / unplugged? |
15:12:46 | Hero | plugged |
15:12:46 | copper | running Rockbox fallback image? |
15:13:33 | Hero | Yes |
15:13:38 | Hero | it's running the fall back image |
15:13:51 | Hero | If I attempt to run the lastest version |
15:13:53 | copper | is the ipod "mounted" on your PC, i.e. do you see it as an external hard drive? |
15:13:56 | Hero | it won't recognize the device |
15:13:59 | Hero | Yes |
15:14:02 | copper | ok |
15:14:10 | copper | erase the .rockbox directory on it |
15:14:18 | copper | compltely |
15:14:23 | copper | completely* |
15:14:37 | Hero | are you sure this is a good idea? |
15:14:48 | Hero | I did it, but I'm just asking |
15:14:52 | copper | yes |
15:14:54 | copper | do it |
15:14:57 | copper | ok |
15:14:59 | Hero | I just said I did it |
15:15:21 | copper | now download this zip file, and unpack it at the root of your mounted iPod drive, like before: http://files.freemyipod.org/releases/20120102/rockbox-ipodclassic-r31516-20120102.zip |
15:15:22 | Hero | can I at least leave it in the trash can |
15:15:27 | copper | that's an older release of Rockbox |
15:15:47 | Hero | what is downloading an older version going to do? |
15:15:55 | copper | which supposedly doesn't have the USB problems of newer builds |
15:16:17 | Hero | I could have sworn I already had an older version |
15:16:38 | copper | yes, I / we made you install the latest build, but that one doesn't seem to be working properly with your PC |
15:16:41 | Hero | isn't that what I had before I upgraded to this newer version? |
15:16:45 | copper | yes |
15:16:49 | Hero | What I'm saying is |
15:16:56 | Hero | why do I have to install another older version |
15:17:05 | Hero | when I already had one to begin with before the upgrade |
15:17:34 | Hero | isn't the "fall back image" the older version? |
15:17:46 | Hero | I'm just inquiring |
15:18:12 | copper | yes, but "installing" the older version normally, will allow you to boot it directly instead of fiddling with the Tools menu from emCORE |
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15:18:50 | copper | and possibly saving your settings (I don't think the fallback image allows you to do that, though I may be wrong) |
15:18:58 | Hero | I see |
15:19:12 | Hero | So what do you want me to do now |
15:19:23 | Hero | I'm curious to know what you mean by "install normally" |
15:19:36 | copper | 14:15:22 UTC <copper> now download this zip file, and unpack it at the root of your mounted iPod drive, like before: http://files.freemyipod.org/releases/20120102/rockbox-ipodclassic-r31516-20120102.zip |
15:19:40 | copper | I mean that |
15:19:43 | copper | ^^ |
15:20:33 | copper | then unplug the ipod, turn it off, turn it back on, check in the System -> Rockbox Info menu that you have the correct version (*-120102) |
15:20:48 | Hero | Yes, and I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, how is that going to be any different from what we had setup beforehand |
15:21:21 | copper | just see if that version allows you to copy files to your ipod via USB without errors |
15:21:31 | Hero | Okay, hang on |
15:21:50 | Hero | I will try it, but I guess this is just a troubleshooting procedure |
15:23:15 | Hero | by unplug, you mean eject first, then unplug |
15:23:45 | Hero | I'm just trying to be rigorous |
15:23:56 | copper | yes |
15:23:58 | copper | indeed |
15:24:25 | Hero | yes, I have version *-120102 |
15:24:41 | copper | ok, now plug your iPod to your PC via USB |
15:24:59 | copper | try to transfer some songs, then "safely eject" and unplug |
15:25:26 | Hero | yes my computer recognizes the device |
15:25:37 | copper | do the whole thing |
15:25:37 | Hero | looks like the latest version has some issue |
15:25:41 | Hero | I will |
15:25:44 | Hero | I'm just saying |
15:25:52 | Hero | the latest version couldn't even make it this far |
15:26:00 | copper | 11:48:31 UTC <[7]> copper: I'll happily do so (and update the fallback image) once we've fixed that USB mess |
15:26:19 | copper | that's also why the iPod Classic Rockbox port is listed as "unusable" |
15:26:31 | copper | to scare off newbies like you |
15:26:42 | Hero | I'm not s |
15:26:47 | Hero | But I'm not scared |
15:26:52 | copper | I can see that |
15:27:25 | copper | because, see how much time it took to get it running for you? |
15:27:38 | Hero | I guess |
15:27:40 | copper | too much effort |
15:27:56 | Hero | but honestly, I don't think the problem is on my end |
15:28:00 | copper | notice how everyone else disappeared |
15:28:12 | Hero | the install procedure is jacked up |
15:28:20 | Hero | I've been installing programs for years |
15:28:25 | copper | Hero: USB problems with the Rockbox port for the iPod Classic are known |
15:28:26 | Hero | never had any such trouble |
15:28:39 | Hero | It wasn't known to me |
15:28:40 | copper | this isn't a one click install thing |
15:28:42 | Hero | until now |
15:28:48 | Hero | I can see that |
15:28:51 | copper | running Rockbox on an iPod Classic is almost akin to "hacking" |
15:29:01 | Hero | yep |
15:29:12 | copper | because Apple made it very difficult for Rockbox and the likes to run on the iPod Classic |
15:29:15 | Hero | to be truthful, I have a bit of experience with doing such things |
15:29:31 | Hero | My rigor is just a bit off today |
15:29:41 | copper | anyway, did you manage to copy some audio files and safely eject? |
15:29:50 | Hero | I was just about to ask about that |
15:29:53 | Hero | You see |
15:30:06 | Hero | normally when I add music files, I have to do it through itunes |
15:30:12 | copper | not with Rockbox |
15:30:22 | copper | with Rockbox, you just use the Windows Explorer |
15:30:25 | Hero | so I just want to verify with you the proper rigor to apply when adding files through rockbox |
15:30:33 | Hero | Okay |
15:30:37 | Hero | just verifying |
15:30:42 | copper | Rockbox won't work with iTunes |
15:30:52 | Hero | I found that out already |
15:31:03 | copper | may I ask where you heard about Rockbox? |
15:31:06 | Hero | I just wanted to verify the "rockbox" procedure for adding files |
15:31:19 | Hero | from a friend |
15:31:50 | Hero | I don't think he has a ipod classic though |
15:31:55 | Hero | He has an ipod nano |
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15:32:08 | Hero | so he didn't have to use much rigor for his installation |
15:32:24 | copper | we've been at this for almost 4 hours |
15:32:35 | Hero | which is sad |
15:32:39 | copper | imagine if we had to spend four hours with every user |
15:32:43 | copper | just not possible |
15:32:58 | Hero | and I actually consider myself tech savvy |
15:33:02 | Hero | which is even sadder |
15:33:45 | Hero | yes the file was properly added |
15:34:01 | copper | then keep that Rockbox version and don't update it |
15:34:22 | Hero | can I at least play around with the latest version to see if I can get it to work? |
15:34:33 | copper | do as you like |
15:34:39 | copper | I've explained everything to you |
15:34:45 | copper | so now it's up to you |
15:35:16 | Hero | I just get the feeling that if you were performing the rigor on my device, somehow you would figure out a way to get it to work |
15:35:21 | Hero | I want to do the same |
15:35:29 | Hero | just keep messing with it until it works |
15:37:36 | Hero | Well, anyway, I appreciate all your help |
15:37:52 | Hero | You helped me until the end |
15:41:04 | copper | Hero: an alternative is to install the latest Rockbox build, but always reboot into the "Rockbox fallback image" before plugging the iPod into your PC via USB, for file transfers |
15:41:54 | copper | that's more cumbersome, but it would allow you to benefit from all the latest features, while being able to transfer files via USB without Rockbox crashing |
15:43:15 | Hero | Hmmm |
15:43:22 | Hero | I'll have to try that |
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15:48:14 | copper | and, erm, don't forget to reboot into the new Rockbox build after unplugging the iPod |
15:49:43 | Hero | I see |
15:50:31 | Hero | I just won't be able to use the rockbox utility for anything |
15:50:43 | Hero | I still can't get that to work properly |
15:50:57 | Hero | nor can I get the chkdsk to work either |
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19:42:32 | lorenzo92 | kugel (logs): g#395 updated and g#701 fixes the rest |
19:42:34 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #395 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/395 : Samsung YP-R1 target port by Lorenzo Miori (changes/95/395/16) |
19:42:35 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #701 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/701 : by Lorenzo Miori (changes/01/701/2) |
19:44:03 | lorenzo92 | bot bug! in the title there is a / character and it seems like the whole title gets stripped |
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21:05:21 | saratoga | scorche|sh: can you purge the forums of zero post accounts so that banning spammers is a little quicker? |
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