#rockbox 2014-02-05

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01:52:03	Srara	So you guys have any links or w/e to show me how to remap the holding down of the home button or a combo of home + middle to pwr button?
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02:55:06	[Saint]	Srara: /rockbox/apps/keymaps/keymap-<your_device_here>.c
02:55:49	[Saint]	Before you bother doing anything there, though, you'll need to know that you can successfully compile Rockbox on your system without modification.
02:56:14	[Saint]	First step, if you're on Windows - don't be.
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02:56:36	Srara	>.>
02:56:59	[Saint]	That might sound kinda corny, but its completely serious.
02:57:09	Srara	Well than no go for me then.
02:57:15	[Saint]	If you're on Windows, you'll need a unix virtual machine to get this running.
02:57:27	Srara	I don't have time to dual-boot linux and I can't run two VM's at once
02:57:34	[Saint]	Ah.
02:57:56	Srara	Unless I want my processor to explode. That's always an option.
02:58:08	Srara	What language is all of this in?
02:58:35	[Saint]	Mostly C, with tiny bits of Assembly sprinkled around.
02:58:54	Srara	So what's the problem with windows?
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02:59:58	[Saint]	We'd need to use CygWin (a terribly, terribly, nasty-ass unix transition layer) that has been unsupported by anyone here for years.
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03:00:10	Srara	I'm willing to install stuff and meow meow, It's just I'm not going to close down the VM or the PC just so I can do some rockbox modding.
03:00:37	Srara	I'd use it if it would work.
03:00:46	[Saint]	The problem is that even if you did install CygWin, it almost certainly wouldn;t compile. :)
03:01:23	[Saint]	Then you'd spend more time chasing up bugs there than you would applying the fix for your issue in the first place.
03:01:37	Srara	=/
03:02:31	Srara	Damn, is there anyone who I can get to do it for me? I can't even get my old PC out of the garage cause' it's frozen shut.
03:02:40	Srara	And my backyard is an ice rink.
03:04:10	[Saint]	What exactly is it you're wanting done? Keymapping is problematic, as when you start moving keymaps around, you also need to take into consideration the function(s) you'll be wiping out.
03:04:22	[Saint]	The keymaps on most of these targets are extremely crowded.
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03:54:15	toehser1	Why not 2 VMs? Just give both less memory.
03:54:38	[Saint]	It would be 3 VMs, I assume.
03:54:59	[Saint]	And if you're talking about having to dig a machine out of the garage, I'm /guessing/ its not terribly performant.
03:55:49	[Saint]	I'm still waiting for the keymapping requirements.
03:56:06	toehser1	Another clip+ user with broken buttons... another vote for the zip with its improved buttons...
03:56:37	[Saint]	Yeah, that's all very well and nice, but not terribly relevant to the current situation.
03:58:00	toehser1	My first comment was relevant. If he's already running a VM setup, it is probably way easier to get a Linux build environment, than to get Cygwin working.
03:58:34	toehser1	The "processor explode" thing isn't really the way it goes, it is usually memory that must be juggled when you get up to too many VMs.
03:59:10	[Saint]	OP had stated that they are already running 2 VMs, and didn;t want to run another.
03:59:14	[Saint]	That is the end of it.
03:59:24	[Saint]	The why isn;t important.
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04:01:28	toehser1	OP said he "can't" run 2 VMs unless he "want's his processor to explode". It is useful to offer experience on the possibility or how, not on the why.
04:02:06	[Saint]	Ok, so, s/2/1/, and its still totally irrelevant.
04:02:20	[Saint]	"OP doesn't want to".
04:02:24	[Saint]	DOne. Finished. End.
04:03:36	toehser1	Re-read log, OP didn't say he didn't want to.
04:04:33	[Saint]	No. They said they can't. Which is even more final.
04:04:49	[Saint]	Whether that is technically correct or not is not our place to discuss.
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04:24:37	Srara	Back
04:25:00	Srara	The bit about it being "cant" is because It's already so laggy that WoW runs at 20fps.
04:25:07	Srara	Think about that.
04:25:43	Srara	Oh, and I've pretty much ignored the problem for now. I'll work on it w/e, but it was that I want to remap the power button to something, pref a combination of buttons that isn't used.
04:26:14	[Saint]	Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, whatever reason you can't/don't want to/whatever is good enough.
04:26:22	[Saint]	I don't need a reason.
04:26:41	[Saint]	Apparently someone else wants you to justify it, but I couldn;t care less. :)
04:27:00	Srara	Yeah I'm sorry I didn't mean to cause an argument.
04:28:27	[Saint]	I don't think it would be possible to get a button combo that isn't used everywhere, unless you go for something really obscure like \|<< + >>\|
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04:28:47	[Saint]	Some plugins use some fairly odd combinations.
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04:30:10	[Saint]	But, this could be fixed rather trivially by allowing shutdown in the main menu on all targets.
04:30:49	toehser1	The problem I think is that the shutdown button is also the stop button on the clip+, it isn't actually shutting down that is the issue, is it?
04:31:09	[Saint]	Button combinations aren't really relevant if we do this cleanly.
04:31:12	[Saint]	see: http://pastebin.com/psPG5pyY
04:31:31	[Saint]	All that needs is a "shutdown" option added to the main menu config line.
04:32:11	[Saint]	I wanted to add shutdown as an (off by default) menu option for all targets, but I was told that wasn't a particularly nice way of doing it.
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04:32:51	[Saint]	Another possibility is adding shutdown as a Hotkey option.
04:33:14	[Saint]	Once you start remapping keys, things get really messy.
04:33:38	[Saint]	Its incredibly hard to remap a function without wiping out other functions elsewhere.
04:34:12	toehser1	OP originally mentioned it as an issue as that key (stop/pwr) is needed to leave the recording menu - adding a shutdown option to the menu won't help with that.
04:34:12	[Saint]	On some targets, it wouldn't even be possible I don't think. You'd need to give up something, somewhere.
04:35:10	[Saint]	The cleanest option here is adding shutdown to hotkey.
04:35:26	[Saint]	But I don't have a patch for that and its exceedingly unlikely I'll provide one.
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04:35:59	[Saint]	...but even then I don;t think hotkey is available in the recording menu.
04:36:04	[Saint]	s/menu/screen/
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04:36:29	[Saint]	This is bound to screw something up, somewhere.
04:36:46	[Saint]	Its hard enough to get a working keymap when all the buttons are functional.
04:37:48	toehser1	I have a way, that I've used- but not a nice way... (1) Remove plastic button and broken power switch (2) poke metal object (paper clip) down into player such as to close circuit.
04:39:05	toehser1	I used to have to turn one on that way when I couldn't plug it into USB to turn it on.
04:43:49	JdGordon	didnt I add the hidden option to put shutdown in the main menu?
04:46:05	JdGordon	g#156
04:46:19	JdGordon	g156
04:46:34	JdGordon	:/
04:52:12	[Saint]	You did. I fixed it up. And made some noise about it, and it got shut down.
04:52:21	[Saint]	No pun intended.
04:52:45	[Saint]	(that was the patch I linked above)
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04:53:14	[Saint]	I would like to see it go in, personally.
04:53:44	[Saint]	Without grepping my logs, I believe it was something along the lines of "That's a particularly ugly way of doing it"
04:54:19	[Saint]	gevaerts took some specific objection to it, maybe he'll remember when he reads the logs.
04:54:26	JdGordon	Does that even build on other non PLAYER_PAD targets?
04:54:43	JdGordon	SHUTDOWN_PREFIX looks undefined
04:55:02	[Saint]	Hm?
04:55:12	JdGordon	oh misread diff
04:55:16	[Saint]	I have this in my builds now.
04:55:22	[Saint]	She's all well and good.
04:55:38	[Saint]	Apparently its just...hideous.
04:55:42	*	[Saint] shrugs
04:56:24	JdGordon	ok, no, it wont build on PLAYER_PAD builds
04:56:36	JdGordon	put it on gerrit... i'll push it :)
04:56:39	JdGordon	looks fine
04:56:56	JdGordon	ah, the lang change is probably the problem
04:57:04	JdGordon	i think that will break things
04:57:12	JdGordon	again, only player builds though, so meh
04:57:27	Srara	Yeah shutdown isn't actually the problem, it's the leaving menu and plugins. Like doom and recording.
04:57:49	Srara	Also, I can't just short the circuit because my son thought it would be a great idea to try and superglue the buttons down.
04:58:03	[Saint]	JdGordon: I seem to recall the objection was in the (admittedly, slightly odd) prefixing system.
04:58:11	[Saint]	But I may be misremembering.
04:59:05	[Saint]	Tack it on to the original task if you want. ~80% of it is your work. :)
04:59:08	JdGordon	well the other option is makeing it default to on
04:59:47	[Saint]	YEah. And that's not gona happen.
04:59:56	JdGordon	then this is what we have
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05:00:02	JdGordon	untill someone makes a plugin :p
05:00:08	JdGordon	which i have always meant to :/
05:10:23	[Saint]	JdGordon: regarding PLAYER_PAD, if memory serves, that's unhandled by this becase they already have a shutdown option.
05:10:54	JdGordon	it will give a compile error
05:11:14	[Saint]	Oh, ah. Hmmm.
05:11:40	JdGordon	you need to do #define SHUTDOWN_PREFIX ""
05:12:07	[Saint]	specifically for PLAYER_PAD?
05:12:30	JdGordon	in line ~56
05:12:31	[Saint]	Oh, ah. Right. I see.
05:12:33	JdGordon	as a #else
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05:25:57	JdGordon	11min
05:31:13	[Saint]	JdGordon: Can't reach my build machine at home to test it, but, this should be what you're looking for - rebased to current git head - http://pastebin.com/UBYw2aUW
05:32:04	JdGordon	looks good
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09:39:17	kugel	grrrr: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16660
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09:39:38	kugel	I'm not sure we depend on it anywhere but it is present in gcc 4.4.6 and lower
09:54:24	kugel	4.6.x has the fix
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10:35:34	gevaerts	[Saint]: I don't remember that...
10:39:12	kugel	[Saint]: why s/LANG_SHUTDOWN/LANG_SHUTDOWN_MENU_ITEM/ ?
10:39:51	kugel	that complicates things unecessarily
10:40:22	kugel	also the IDs should not be named after where it's used but just after the string they represent
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10:52:18	[Saint]	gevaerts: I may be misremembering the specific objection of yours, but there indeed was one.
10:52:39	gevaerts	Maybe, but then it's your job to find it :)
10:53:16	[Saint]	No, no, it's fine. :)
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18:57:52	ikeboy	Does anyone know why textviewer won't open in the sansa fuze+ sim for me?
18:57:59	ikeboy	And yes, I'm using HEAD
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19:00:57	ikeboy	The exact error I get is "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
19:03:09	pamaury	looks like a bug
19:03:11	pamaury	let me try
19:04:20	pamaury	ikeboy: if you have the source code, you can use gdb to backtrace
19:04:27	pamaury	that would help probably
19:04:38	ikeboy	how, exactly?
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19:08:27	pamaury	run "gdb ./rockboxui", then "r" (enter), it will run, when it crashes you can use "bt" (enter) to backtrace. If you don't get anything useful, you migth have to recompile in debug mode
19:09:42	pamaury	but maybe it just comes from outdates plugins, I would advise you run "make reconf", "make clean", "make" and "make install" and retry before going further
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19:53:50	kugel	lebellium: i merged the ypr1 work
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20:00:48	gevaerts	kugel: I've "fixed" the player red now
20:00:59	kugel	coo
20:01:00	kugel	l
20:02:02	gevaerts	I imagine we may want to "fix" the recorder one more time for the next release, although maybe even that is one step too far
20:06:07	kugel	hwcodec to death if you ask me
20:06:45	kugel	we can put a last release but I'm not sure it's any better than 3.13
20:07:06	gevaerts	Yes, I'm not sure
20:07:15	gevaerts	Either kill it now or kill it in a month
20:07:26	gevaerts	I'll try to start a mailing list discussion soon
20:07:41	kugel	I've waited so long for it I can wait a month more :)
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20:30:01	lebellium	kugel: cool! thank you
20:46:45	bluebrother	speaking of discussions, we should start one about a DevCon date if we want to have it this year :)
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20:51:12	lorenzo92	kugel: thanks for pushing the patch :)
20:51:40	lorenzo92	I'm sorry i couldn't help but had to prepare exams...
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22:13:20	lebellium	kugel gevaerts is it possible to get http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-samsungypr1.zip working now that the patch has been merged?
22:13:50	kugel	yes I think so
22:14:00	kugel	gevaerts knows whats needed
22:15:09	gevaerts	Does it use the same toolchain as the r0?
22:15:36	kugel	yepp
22:16:12	kugel	grml
22:16:22	kugel	Im looking into microsd support for the ypr0
22:16:37	gevaerts	OK, should be done
22:16:42	kugel	I'm not sure what's the better (less bad) approach:
22:16:46	gevaerts	We'll see after the next build
22:16:51	lebellium	kugel: about automount?
22:17:02	lebellium	thanks ge
22:17:03	lebellium	gevaerts:
22:17:39	kugel	1) install a hotplug executable (via /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug) and have this script send a signal to the running rockbox
22:17:58	kugel	2) poll periodically using the appropriate ioctl
22:18:57	kugel	1) seems better but I don't like the idea that we create a separate script outside the rockbox binary
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22:49:45	wodz	kugel: I don't understand your objection to #1. ypr0 port is special anyway.
22:53:14	kugel	lebellium: can you check whether the latest ypr1 build produces sound on your r1?
22:55:13	lebellium	kugel: arf, I'm not really willing to launch virtualbox to compile a build right now
22:55:32	kugel	ok
22:55:47	lebellium	once http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-samsungypr1.zip is working, I'll do it for sure
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22:57:46	wodz	pamaury: Any progress with yp-cp3?
22:59:16	lebellium	kugel: it still doesn't work on yours and you just want double check?
22:59:23	kugel	lebellium: a build should be ready in a few
22:59:53	pamaury	wodz: no, I have been super busy these days, I just came back at home, let me eat first then I'll try with the backlight hack
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23:00:22	pamaury	nice to see some progress on the YP-R{0,1} ports :)
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23:08:19	kugel	lebellium: build is ready
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23:12:23	kugel	hm, I can't make sound work, even with patch #16 of g#395 which worked yesterday
23:12:40	kugel	OF still plays fine so not a hardware damage
23:13:13	lebellium	ok
23:13:15	lebellium	let me try
23:13:42	lebellium	I think I'll keep my current rockbox.sh and not use the one shipped in the build
23:14:08	kugel	why?
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23:15:25	kugel	btw, I changed the safe-mode button to volume-down (you need to reflash the bootloader) and the OF button to volume-up (new rockbox.sh is enough) so that it's more similar to the r0
23:15:32	lebellium	kugel: because I use the ROM from ABI, I'm not sure it is really the same as the one you compiled yourself
23:16:19	kugel	changed respective to the previous gerrit patches, I don't know what other ROMs on ABI do
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23:20:11	lebellium	I have sound here
23:22:01	kugel	well, thats strange
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23:24:00	lebellium	the only difference with you is that I use a different ROM and a different rockbox.sh
23:24:06	lebellium	the build should be the same
23:25:53	lebellium	in your rockbox.sh you removed things like amixer cset numid=1,iface=MIXER,name='PCM PlayBack Switch' 2
23:26:02	lebellium	I don't know if they were important
23:28:37	*	kugel checks
23:29:29	kugel	lebellium: can you paste that?
23:30:14	lebellium	kugel: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kjcbuk9rq8zuz5p/rockbox.sh
23:31:25	kugel	lebellium: fwiw, I didnt remove those. the lines simply were not there in lorenzo's patches
23:32:07	lebellium	ah
23:32:16	lebellium	so he should know :D
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23:33:36	kugel	lebellium: works again now
23:33:54	kugel	this stuff shouldnt be in rockbox.sh
23:34:59	lebellium	that looks rather dirty to my non-dev eyes indeed
23:35:25	kugel	i wonder which of these lines are significant. our pcm-alsa code should take care of that
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23:38:24	lebellium	we'll see that wih Lorenzo after his exams
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23:45:29	lebellium	grrr
23:45:32	lebellium	DB Error: database is locked (5)
23:45:33	lebellium	SQL: UPDATE themes SET approved=:approved, reason=:reason WHERE themeid=:id Array ( [:approved] => 0 [:reason] => Theme was replaced by newer version. [:id] => 1683 )
23:46:41	scorche\|sh	is that from the themes site?
23:46:44	lebellium	yep
23:46:49	lebellium	I wanted to update my theme
23:46:54	scorche\|sh	lovely
23:47:03	scorche\|sh	i'll try to check on that when i get home
23:47:20	lebellium	thanks
23:49:30	gevaerts	Probably "expected"
23:50:59	gevaerts	There are some issues with the way the themesite code uses sqlite (or maybe they're just inherent to using sqlite?) that can lead to this sort of thing
23:51:24	gevaerts	I'd recommend just trying again
23:51:44	lebellium	ok
23:52:08	scorche\|sh	what he said =)
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23:53:57	bluebrother^	ok, I've just made a major update of the bot. This should hopefully fix it falling off every now and then it had recently.
23:54:12	bluebrother^	if it acts up just kick it, it should then leave the channel
23:54:58	lebellium	gevaerts: scorche\|sh okay it worked now :)
23:55:48	lebellium	kugel: I fixed and updated 2 of my themes which no longer worked due to your new restrictions. Unfortunately there are dozens of others also not working but from other authors which are not necessarily active :S
23:56:06	lebellium	who*

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