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#rockbox log for 2014-02-14

00:02:16JdGordon[Saint]: i was hoping to get the latest version of the shutdown in menu patch, but too late now :p
00:02:46[Saint]Oh?
00:02:55[Saint]Did you just make your own?
00:03:38JdGordonno, i'm at work so cant do anything about it now :)
00:03:46JdGordoni made a plugin last night to edit the order
00:03:54JdGordon(icase you didtn see the commit)(
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00:06:27[Saint]Ah. OK. Right, well. I'll still put it up on gerrit anyway. I just forgot about it.
00:06:44[Saint]Do you want me to hijack your original task, or create another?
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00:11:00JdGordonhijack my one
00:17:11JdGordonthe UI is a bit painful on that plugin... I'll hopefully have time over the weekend to fix it (doubtful though)
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00:48:13[Saint]JdGordon: done (added g156)
00:48:15fs-bluebot_3Gerrit review #156 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/156 : 3root menu: add the shutdown option to all builds by Hayden Pearce
00:48:31[Saint]Awwww, shit. I messed up preserving the author. Bah.
00:48:45JdGordondoesnt matter :)
00:48:54JdGordonfeel like fixing the plugin to handle the !?
00:48:57[Saint]I guess I *completely* hijacked it. Sorry. :-(
00:49:14[Saint]Oh, crap. Right Yep.
00:49:41JdGordonit is really horrible code, so if you get scraaed don
00:49:46JdGordont worry :)
00:49:50JdGordonffs i hate this keyboard
00:50:24[Saint]Well, I basically just need to (carefully) find and replace ? w/ !. Not too difficult.
00:50:58JdGordonjust search for all the strcmp(menu_item[ ...'s
00:51:08*[Saint] nods
00:51:08JdGordoni was going to split that out into another function
00:51:29JdGordonalso shows how out of practice I am, copying the strings around everywhere is lame
00:52:25[Saint]Oh...wait. What? Hmmmm.
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00:52:34[Saint]"?" only appears in a single line.
00:53:42JdGordonyou need to handle where it compares againt menu_table[*].string
00:53:56[Saint]Ugh.
00:54:31JdGordonmenu_table[index].string[0] == '!' ? &menu_table[index].string[1] : menu_table[index].string
00:59:32[Saint]Yeah. Nah. Maybe when I wake up a bit more. I just screwed that up spectacularly.
00:59:39JdGordon:)
00:59:50JdGordonalso the whole UI is crap
00:59:57JdGordonso i might rewriet the whole thing on sunday
00:59:58*[Saint] seems to have a knack for making syntactically correct bullshit
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02:24:26[Saint]Uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.
02:24:41[Saint]The forums are horrendously slow.
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02:41:53jasomI noticed opus support in the release notes; does it want it wrapped in ogg?
02:49:56[Saint]jasom: nope.
02:50:06[Saint]*.opus is sufficient.
02:50:29[Saint]We have some test files at http://download.rockbox.org/test_files/
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13:18:42copperhmm
13:18:52copperDoes the Clip+ not support RDS data?
13:25:56copperok, it doesn't
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13:31:31Ooga_Boogahi how i can shuffle all my music and not only one folder?
13:33:11ikeboyYou use the database
13:33:34ikeboySelect "tracks" and All
13:34:53Ooga_Boogathere is a lot of folders there
13:34:58Ooga_Boogain folder tracks
13:35:05Ooga_Boogathere is only internal storage music
13:36:06ikeboyYou can also select Artist then <All tracks>
13:36:52Ooga_Boogayeah in artists there is all tracks but only from internal
13:37:01Ooga_Boogai cant see micro sd
13:40:30Ooga_Boogaa there is auto update option i thought this is auto function
13:41:37ikeboyYou need to set which folders to go into the database, and set the auto also. Which device are you on?
13:41:47Ooga_Boogasansa clip zip
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13:43:13ikeboyI'm not sure the controls then but try settings->database->select directories to scan and auto update (two different options
13:43:31Ooga_Boogathanks
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14:26:21coppermy new Clip+ theme: https://outpost.fr/viewimg/xfd.png
14:26:30copperhttps://outpost.fr/rockbox/ClipGym-2014-02-14.zip
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14:29:28randomuser_hi everybody, anybody using version 3.13 on Iriver h120 & booting from rom? hangs; same happens with version 3.12, 3.11.2 seems latest to work; seems related to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12769?string=iriver&project=1&type[0]=2&sev[0]=&pri[0]=&due[0]=&reported[0]=&cat[0]=&status[0]=open&percent[0]=&opened=&dev=&closed=&duedatefrom=&duedateto=&changedfrom=&changedto=&openedfrom=&openedto=&closedfrom=&closedto=
14:30:35randomuser_also, thanks every developer for awesome work!
14:32:58randomuser_difference between the link and my behavior here is I can reproduce it on every boot, booting from ram & hd works as expected; also, I'm using cf2ide + cf card instead of default hdd
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15:13:15wodzrandomuser_: gevaerts tested recently various combinations and except known dircache bug everything worked as expected.
15:14:28gevaertsrandomuser_: try disabling dircache and see if that makes a difference
15:15:00gevaertsIf you're on CF, not having dircache should not be *too* terrible
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16:44:19copperhttp://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2064&target=sansaclipplus
16:45:07relahi
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18:34:47randomuser_?
18:40:38randomuser_thanks a lot for dircache tip, looks like it solved the problem
18:44:09gevaertsWell, it worked around it :)
18:45:56randomuser_should I be worried about any unpleasant consequences?
18:46:54gevaertsnot having dircache can cause slower directory lookups. With a rotating disk, that's *very* noticeable
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18:47:14gevaertsWith flash, it shouldn't have too much of an impact
18:48:16celaanybody know if the bootloader is fixed for CreativeZENXFi black screen issue?
18:48:21randomuser_ok, seems like no problem, even my folder structure & file count is quite flat/low
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18:58:23jasom[Saint]: FYI .opus is ambiguous; there is a draft RFC suggesting that ogg/opus should have a .opus extension http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-terriberry-oggopus-01#section-8
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18:59:08jasom[Saint]: and in fact the test-files you point me at are in an ogg container
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20:45:06saratogawe require that Opus be in an ogg container, but it should not be named .ogg as that is reserved for vorbis files
20:45:55copperwhat about .oga?
20:46:12copperI'm unclear on the standard about that
20:47:03copperit seems to me that Ogg as a generic container format pretty much failed
20:47:15copperunlike Matroska
20:49:03copperOgg tools don't even know about new codecs like Opus without modification
20:51:10copperi.e. they can't read basic information from the headers, and they can't read Vorbis Comments
20:51:32copper(in Opus files)
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21:05:55saratogai think we decided not to add oga a while back because it was ambiguous what formats could be in it
21:06:01saratogacheck the logs from 2007 or so
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21:07:07saratogai noticed that new clip sport has WMA but not WMA DRM support
21:07:19saratoganot MTP either
21:07:36saratogai wonder if that means they stopped using the MS package
21:14:04copperare there still shops selling DRM'd WMA?
21:14:14copperI thought they all close up shop a while ago
21:14:18copperclosed*
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22:38:32wodzsaratoga: ping
22:39:58wodzgevaerts: So whats this dircache bug is all about actually? There were quite a few reports about it and the solution isn't obvious nor documented AFAIK
22:40:51gevaertswodz: the h1x0 does some magic with eeprom to speed up some dircache things. That's the bit that has issues
22:40:54gevaertsThat's *all* I know
22:41:17saratogawodz:pong
22:41:18gevaertsSo it's not a *general* dircache bug
22:41:37wodzgevaerts: yes I mean generic h1x0 bug
22:41:44*gevaerts nods
22:43:15wodzsaratoga: You said once you designed mips(ish) core in vhdl. Do you feel like asking a few questions about mips exceptions/interrupts handling?
22:43:34saratogaah no, i don't know anything about that
22:43:41wodzbammer
22:43:50saratogai just did the decode, registers, and ALU
22:44:11saratogawhy MIPS?
22:44:42wodzsaratoga: I am working on iriver e150 port which is mips 4kec core
22:44:57saratogaah interesting choice
22:45:38wodzand this is one of the 'historically important' architectures I don't know much about
22:46:16wodzgevaerts: we should at least document the issue in release notes or something like this
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23:27:42lebellium[Saint]: it's not possible to change the album art size depending on the playback status (play or pause) right?
23:28:04[Saint]sadly, no.
23:30:35[Saint]That would require a preload system for %Cl, similar to say, viewports or images, with identifiers. Which in itself requires (what I'm told are non-trivial) changes to the way album art is handled.
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23:32:18[Saint]But, it would indeed be nice to do %Cl(small,x,y,w,h); %?C(small) or whatever, indeed.
23:33:00ZincAlloyit would be a great addition to many themes.
23:33:12ZincAlloyespecially on square screens
23:35:29lebelliumindeed
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