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#rockbox log for 2014-02-23

00:03:43*lebellium wants to fix all the broken themes on the theme website and contact the authors but no email address :(
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00:30:30saratogai wouldn't let lack of an email stop you from fixing them :)
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01:40:07lebelliumokay I fixed 4 Clip+ and Clip Zip themes, and contacted the authors on the forum. Now I deserve to sleep :)
01:40:24ZincAlloylet me check my email :D
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01:41:08ZincAlloyor the forum..
01:43:51lebelliumwhat's your theme?
01:44:23saratogacan you just upload the fixed themes to the site?
01:44:33ZincAlloyI've only added two variations of cabbiev2..
01:45:06lebelliumsaratoga: no, that's why I can only fix themes for which I can contact the author on the forum http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/board,24.0.html
01:45:08ZincAlloyCabbieV2Jam and CabbieV2helv
01:45:30ZincAlloyI think you're lacking rights :D
01:45:36lebelliumsaratoga: If I could get the email address used by the author to upload the themes, it would be much easier...
01:46:23saratogalebellium: maybe one of the site admins can upload the files for you
01:46:41lebelliumZincAlloy: looks like your themes are not broken :)
01:47:02ZincAlloyI would have been surprised if they were
01:48:46lebelliumsaratoga: for the themes which don't have their own forum thread, that could be a solution indeed. We can discuss that further tomorrow :)
01:50:57lebelliumwhat I don't understand is how a theme uploaded in February, one month after the new restrictions, can be broken... -_- http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2062
01:51:07lebelliumthe author used release 3.13 or what?
01:51:18ZincAlloymost people do
01:51:36ZincAlloyit's the latest stable
01:53:04ZincAlloywow, some people must really dislike cabbiev2jam
01:53:16ZincAlloyone and a half stars?
01:53:40lebelliumthey are some "haters"
01:53:52lebelliumcopper knows that problem too
01:53:58ZincAlloyyeah. haters gonna hate
01:54:37ZincAlloyit sure is an improvement. and the custom fonts are nice to have
01:54:52ZincAlloyand so is the fm screen
01:54:58lebelliumIf you think it's unfair and you don't deserve it, the only way is to upload a new version: the download count remains but the stars are reseted
01:55:11ZincAlloyI don't care
01:55:47ZincAlloythe rating will go up once a couple more votes come in..
01:57:15ZincAlloyand I've already won the popularity contest. cabbie v2 is the default theme after all :D
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02:11:47ZincAlloytheme authors should get automatic notifications when their themes break..
02:12:24lebelliumthat's a good idea
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04:41:29cmhobbs_are there any fm transmitting devices like the soundfly stuff that'll run rockbox?
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05:13:50alexbobpI have the latest rockbox utility on 64 bit linux segfaulting when I press autodetect (on a clip zip)
05:13:54alexbobpwould anybody like a valgrind log?
05:15:04alexbobphttp://pastebin.com/EgLBa0rX
05:20:38alexbobpoh it's a null deref
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05:28:17alexbobp(in case anyone was worried about my well-being, I was able to install after selecting the device manually)
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11:19:32bluebrotheralexbobp: thanks for the log, will give it a look later
11:19:54bluebrotherI thought all those autodetection issues would be resolved. Doesn't seem so :(
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12:03:51alexbobpbluebrother: no problem
12:04:08alexbobpglad somebody noticed :D
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13:09:58lebelliumhum
13:10:14lebelliumI think that http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1421 is not possible to fix with the new theme engine restrictions :(
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13:11:34lebelliumThe progress bar is slipt into 2 parts to display the total track time in the middle
13:11:44lebelliumno way to fix that to my knowledge
13:12:02lebelliumany theme guru around here?
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13:18:27lebelliumI really wonder why kugel added thoses restrictions
13:18:31lebelliumI don't see any advantage
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13:18:40lebelliumI only see the time needed to fix the themes
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13:27:34kugellebellium: because people otherwise do awkward stuff (as you linked) which we never intended to support
13:28:13lebelliumyeah but as long as it works, do we care if it's awkward or not ?
13:28:28kugelit's a real burden for us to deal with skins that do strange things we could never even think about
13:30:27lebelliumI think what he did with the progress bar is nice and smart, even though that was not intended to work
13:30:42lebelliumit's a pity to have to redesign a part of the theme to fix it
13:32:05kugel"but as long as it works" <- the skin engine does not work as wanted in some places, and people create weird workarounds by exploiting weak syntax checking
13:32:27kugeland then get back to us when the weird workarounds don't work anymore
13:33:09kugelthis makes it very hard for us to fix the actual bugs
13:33:17kugelor even identify them
13:33:49lebelliumok got it
13:34:06lebelliumI have the email for this author, I'll ask him if he wants to fix it
13:34:35lebelliumbtw kugel, I already fixed 4 themes :) http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/board,24.0.html
13:35:09kugelfwiw, I think I restricted only that the progressbar may not be smaller than the parent viewport, didnt I?
13:35:23kugelah, nevermind
13:35:42lebelliummay not be bigger* :)
13:36:27kugelI don't suppose you could make the total playtime in a different, later viewport, so it draws over the pb?
13:37:11lebelliumit's already in a different later viewport. But as pb is dynamic, it always displays over
13:37:22kugelright
13:38:03lebelliumI was able to fix the other themes easily. But for this one I don't see any other solution than redesign it
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13:41:18lebelliumkugel: btw, what was the conclusion of the discussion about FS #12951 ?
13:41:54kugelthe centering could be smarter
13:42:47lebelliumeasy to do?
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14:05:06kugellebellium: nope
14:08:46kugelcould probably use the old calculation (which tends to round down) for hte time being
14:09:00kugelbut ideally the algorithm should take the font baseline into account
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14:12:31lebelliumif it's hard and long to make it smart, it would be nice to use the old calculation temporarily. For now I'm obliged to use an old 2013 build, my theme looks too awful with your commit :(
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17:48:41eaxTesting..
17:48:43eaxExcellent.
17:57:03pamauryeax: you are the guy who wants to recover the zenxfi3 right ?
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17:59:18eaxpamaury: That I am :) Am on an incredibly unstable connection though, so I may dissapear sometimes :) (Am ssh'd and screened in so I won't loose the convo)
17:59:49pamauryok, we have logs of channel too ^^ Which OS are you using ?
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18:00:32eaxExcellent :) I am on OS X :)
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18:01:42pamauryeax: arf, that will be tricky
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18:01:55eaxI have Linux Mint in a VM if that will help? :)
18:02:07pamauryyeah greatly, if you can "give" usb devices to the VM
18:02:34eaxCHecking..
18:03:12eaxSeems to be possible yes :)
18:05:25pamauryare you familiar with git ? best would be to clone our repository and compile a few programs
18:05:53eaxI am :)
18:06:19pamauryperfect, see http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit for the link to the repo
18:06:52pamauryyou'll need to install the libusb-1.0-0.dev package too (don't remember the exact spelling)
18:07:01eaxGotcha :)
18:08:51pamaurywhen you have both, go to utils/imxtools/sbtools (relative to the repository), run "make", you should now have a "sbloader" executable
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18:09:58eaxWill do that when possible :)
18:12:44pamauryyou'll also need to download https://www.dropbox.com/s/shbay6wbvsfdbq2/creative_zenxfi3_recovery.sb
18:14:47eaxTHanks :)
18:15:38eaxHm, just found out that I won't have power on my trainride now, is it ossible to meet you here tomorrow at the same time? My laptop will "die" in about 5 minutes :/
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18:16:13pamauryeax: sure, just poke me anytime
18:16:58eaxExcellent, thanks a ton pamaury !
18:17:14eaxTalk to you tomorrow then :)
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20:24:52kugelgrrr, I forgot to edit the commit message of f6c26d3
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20:26:00lebelliumsd automounting works?!
20:26:02lebelliumnice
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20:36:40lorenzo92kugel: nice patches :)
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20:51:38lebelliumJdGordon kugel bluebrother FS #12953
20:52:01lebelliumthe bot is broken or what?
20:52:08kugellorenzo92: hey!
20:52:14lebelliumhttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12953
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20:53:19kugelI managed to make it work quite nicely (and also enabled sd/mmc card simulation for sims), the external sd is mounted (virtually) to /mnt/media0/<microSD1>
20:53:47lorenzo92nice :)
20:54:39lorenzo92kugel: it looks good, also not hackish at all! moreover i guess now it looks more close to what it does on native targets
20:54:49kugelyes exactly
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21:04:58lebelliumkugel: Just updated my R0 to the latest build. I confirm the FMS display issue also occurs on this device and SD automounting didn't work, I had to reboot
21:10:16lebelliumhum no wait
21:10:28lebelliumthe autobuilder is not up to date
21:10:38lebelliumwas still 3f11676 :à
21:10:41lebellium:)
21:10:57lebelliumI try again
21:11:20lebelliumhum no
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21:11:37lebellium3f11676 for YP-R0, f6c26d3 for the other targets kugel
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23:44:35kugellebellium: build is finally available now
23:44:57lebelliumok
23:50:21lebelliumkugel: okay, automounting works
23:51:27lebelliummnt>media0>microSD1 and mnt>mmc is not problematic for the database?
23:52:38[Saint]Oh. You're thinking a link loop?
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23:53:52kugellebellium: try it :)
23:54:41lebelliumI will tomorrow, it's getting late now
23:55:23lebelliumbut IIRC I had the same problem on R0 and Android: obliged to use "select directories to scan"
23:55:28lebelliumotherwise the database doesn't work
23:56:15[Saint]It works fine...it just gets stuck looping through itself indefinitely. ;)
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