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#rockbox log for 2014-02-27

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02:01:08E1NShi everyone! o/
02:04:19[Saint]Hi. If you have a question (about Rockbox), please just go ahead and ask it. If someone can assist you, they will.
02:04:28E1NSroger that
02:05:12E1NSin the webpage , there is nothing about ipod classic 7G - 160GB . is posible ?
02:05:29E1NSi read the guide for 5th/5.5th.
02:05:50E1NSbut i don't know if the 7G ipod classic is supported
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02:06:05E1NScould anyone tell me ?
02:06:15the-kyleIf it's not on the website, then sadly, it's probably not yet supported.
02:06:29[Saint]the-kyle: lets refrain from wrongness today
02:06:39[Saint]E1NS: yes, it most certainly is supported
02:07:08[Saint]We don;t differentiate between the 6/6.5/7G Classic, though, as there's no need to for our purposes.
02:07:18the-kyleAh that's the difference.
02:07:53[Saint]E1NS: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation
02:07:53E1NSok
02:08:13[Saint]Presently, there is no officially supported installation mechanism for this device.
02:08:24E1NSand after the instalation . i can upload music from a fileManager in a GNU/linux ?
02:08:24[Saint](and it is rather unlikely that there will be in the near future)
02:08:31[Saint]Correct.
02:08:53[Saint]After installing Rockbox, its technically no longer an iPod.
02:09:00E1NSso nice
02:09:05E1NSi like the idea xD
02:09:31the-kyleIt's the only way I'd ever buy an iPod *chuckles*.
02:09:34[Saint]A very small amount of Apple code remains to handle some very low level things, but for the most part we're in complete control after installation.
02:10:23[Saint]The only issue is that there is technically no supported installation method, and the target is classed as "unusable", so we could /technically/ decline support.
02:10:26[Saint]But we don't.
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02:11:18[Saint]We will however point you in Freemyipod's direction until its actually running Rockbox. As we have zero control over the freemyipod code base.
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02:11:52[Saint]The main reason why it is "unusable" is due to emCORE and the convoluted install method.
02:12:05E1NSi see
02:12:12[Saint]Its actually *very* usable.
02:13:46E1NSok [Saint] thz
02:13:58E1NSi read the documentation and try to load rockBox
02:14:09[Saint]Stable/Unstable/Unusable don't necessarily mean what they appear to. Its confusing. For the most part its an internal naming scheme used to match against a specific set of requirements.
02:14:41E1NSunusable but really posible xD
02:14:44[Saint]ie. "covered by the installer"; "has a manual"; "has all available feature set"; etc.
02:15:34[Saint]Its highly possible in some cases for an "unusable" build to be more stable than the current "stable" release.
02:15:57E1NSgreat
02:17:07[Saint]If you can avoid it at all, I do rather strongly advise against proceding with the emCORE installation under a Windows OS.
02:18:15[Saint]Nothing can go wrong in an irrecoverable way (its virtually impossible to "brick" any iPods later than the Nano2G). But there's a lot of room for things to go wrong in a way that will make installation fail.
02:18:47[Saint]Avoiding Windows 8 and USB 3 is a good start if you're forced to use Windows, though.
02:19:05[Saint](those are two things that cause issue for totally unknown reasons)
02:19:33E1NSi see
02:19:54E1NSthanks
02:20:09[Saint]If you have access to a debian based system (or even a virtual machine), it can make things go a lot smoother.
02:20:16E1NSi read the guide and boot a windows only for the installation
02:20:24[Saint]Either way you can pop into #freemyipod-support if you get stuck
02:20:33E1NSok
02:20:55E1NSit is good to know
02:20:56E1NSxD
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11:01:44pamaurycopper: can you try this build: https://www.dropbox.com/s/iq6m411mc7up4y6/rockbox_fuzep_extended_debug.zip
11:02:37pamauryjust tell me if you trigger the bug or not
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11:38:18gevaertsZagor: did you see a few days ago that the rsb alias wasn't updated last time?
11:38:36Zagoroh, no I didn't notice
11:38:42ZagorI'll fix it
11:38:46gevaertsOf course, we need to elect a new one *soon*, so maybe it's not worth the effort now :)
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