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#rockbox log for 2014-03-25

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17:07:10saratogai think i accidentally threw out my Clip Zip with the trash
17:07:13saratogastupid thing is too small
17:07:29pamaurythat's sad
17:07:43ZincAlloy:(
17:07:57pamauryalexbobp: got the sansa view
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17:11:51copperlol
17:11:56copperI've been saying it for years.
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17:16:03saratogait was only 20 dollars, probably just buy another one
17:17:55CymewMy Sandisk clip+ have this problem that the volume doesn't really change much when I increase the volume from nil to max. Is this a feature of the hardware, or would this change if I installed Rockbox in the device?
17:19:20saratogathat sounds like its broken
17:20:12CymewIt does change, but not as much as my old Philips GoGear.
17:20:47CymewI thought that it might be the firmware that worked that way
17:21:05saratogathat still sounds like probably broken, but you can try rockbox and see if its any different
17:21:13saratogarange should be something like 50 dB IIRC
17:22:00saratogaI guess if it changes over only part of the volume range it could be that one of the two gain stages in the headphone amp failed
17:22:22saratogaalthough it would be curious if it failed in a way that locked the volume without actually breaking output completely
17:22:43CymewThat's not a feature of the headphones then?
17:23:04*Cymew slaps forehead
17:23:20CymewI tested it with other ones so of course it's not. Sorry for asking...
17:24:02CymewWell, sounds like someone more than I react like there's something fishy.
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17:28:38CymewHmm. There is an uninstall mentioned in the manual. Maybe I can try out Rockbox without removing the option of using the built in software then
17:28:59CymewThanks for the reality check, saratoga!
17:29:05gevaertsYou can dual-boot...
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17:29:59CymewIf I need to send it back to the seller I don't want them to complain that it's my fault because I have installed Rockbox on it...
17:30:36CymewBut, it sounds like it might be broken then. Will check with the friend who suggested I buy one of his was as wonky
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18:01:48kugelsaratoga: news regarding the mp3 issue?
18:04:29saratogasorry i've been incredibly busy with work and haven't had time to do much on it
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18:05:05saratogaprobably its going to need me to step through the 32 and 64 bit decoders dumping the coefficients until i find where they diverge
18:05:37saratogathat reminds me, on a 64 bit system is there some way to force warble to use 32 bit?
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18:40:11kugelsaratoga:
18:40:49kugelyes. the easiest way is to use a separate build folder for the 32bit, run tools/configure and edit the makefile like normal
18:41:08kugelerr, run tools/configure like normal and edit the makefile*
18:41:27kugeladd -m32 to the GCCOPTS and LDFLAGS line
18:41:44kugelthe LDFLAGS line needs -L/usr/lib32 additionally
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18:58:49saratogaso LDOPTS gets both -m32 and lib32?
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19:02:37saratogahuh i don't know how to get the 32 bit libs on ubuntu
19:03:49saratogaah whatever i'll just run two VMs
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19:07:09kugelsaratoga: dpkg −−add-architecture i386
19:07:15kugelapt-get update
19:07:38kugelapt-get install libc6:i386 libsdl1.2:i386
19:07:40kugel(iirc)
19:08:54kugelsaratoga: see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
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19:09:29copperhmmm, what? http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2075&target=ipod4g
19:12:33kugelsaratoga: making 32bit work is less hassle than two VMs really
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