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#rockbox log for 2014-04-26

00:03:07xza23th_m
00:03:18xza23I know that issue
00:03:53xza23did you download those files by using youtube converter? or just as they are? (zippyshare media fire)
00:10:42th_mno these are pretty old mp3s (dutch audiobook) I downloaded a few years ago
00:11:19th_mfirst 12 mp3s of the book are skipped and then it starts with no 13
00:12:55th_mOk to share them but not on IRC :)
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00:16:42xza23try to
00:16:48xza23convert them
00:17:31xza23http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-Audio-Converter.htm
00:17:44xza23to a diffrent format or better or less quality
00:17:49xza23that worked for me
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00:19:06th_mgood idea, I can certainly do that. Main reason was not to get those mp3s working though, just want to help finding bugs in rockbox and helping devs improving it.
00:21:42xza23i'm not a dev i'm less then
00:21:45xza23that
00:22:48xza23pamuary helped with a brightness error apparently my clip+ is drunk when i use it shows the screen very dim after hitting on the back the brightness is good
00:22:49xza23lol
00:23:29th_mno problem, appreciate your comments and I think I will indeed try to convert the mp3s
00:23:40xza23yea
00:23:51xza23maybe the coding of the file is damaged?
00:24:06xza23but you said it works on your pc so no way
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00:31:33dfktth_m, this might be relevant to your broken mp3s: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20140318#19:50:36
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00:46:40th_mthanks dfkt, indeed very similar. will try mp3val
00:47:41dfktif the issue is fixable, it usually is the best first step - good luck
00:49:22dfktof course it would still be good to check what the actual issue is - but i'm no dev, and i couldn't say anyways why rockbox doesn't like them and other players do
00:54:21th_myep, mp3val solves it
00:54:54th_mnice program, even makes backup files automatically :)
00:59:14th_mit would be nice indeed to have it fixed in rockbox though. And if the devs think the file itself is the core issue, an error message would be nice.
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01:01:13xza23glad to help ya
01:01:16xza23:)
01:02:59xza23try to search the file that you have on the interent
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07:20:37[Saint]Ah, crap - the gradient slants slightly on these icons. I can't get away with just flipping one pair of seek/skip icons and feeling good about it.
07:21:49[Saint]I decided against using a flat icon set, not /just/ because making one was getting to be a pain in the ass, but also because I wanted to bleed a bit more of the Tango Desktop icon set through from the menu into the WPS.
07:22:47[Saint]That iconset generator script in the source, by the way? Bravo.
07:24:02[Saint]I had made a poor call on that previously when I didn't like the results I got trying to generate an incon set that was in hindsight far too small to give any pleasing results.
07:25:09[Saint]I made 64x64 96x96 and 128x128 sets for myself last night and they look amazing.
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07:49:05CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
07:49:05*[Saint] winces
07:49:43[Saint]I found much nicer icons. Gah.
07:51:35[Saint]Now to rip off the AOSP scrubber bar...
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11:01:36[Saint]Grrrrrr.
11:02:00*[Saint] now feels copper's gimp colorspace woes.
11:02:11copper:D
11:02:46[Saint]SVG -> ARGB is...fun.
11:02:59[Saint]*ARCG bitmap
11:03:09[Saint]gah - can't type.
11:03:41[Saint]Anyhoo - yeah, inconsistent colors for seemingly no reason, yay!
11:06:03[Saint]I can "fix" it by making the source image a little bit darker, and a little bit 'bluer'. Then the destination image looks a lot closer to the unmodified original.
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13:29:39[Saint]copper: around?
13:29:47copperI am
13:31:42[Saint]If you had a ffc000 strip the adjoins 000000, and needed to fit a progress bar/scrubber in between, what color(s) would you use?
13:33:14*[Saint] is aware of the odd nature of the vague question.
13:33:20copperthe adjoins?
13:33:36[Saint]One sec.
13:33:53copperlike one horizontal black bar, a progress bar just below, and an orange bar below that?
13:35:40[Saint]http://i.imgur.com/kmAXsVV.png?1
13:36:04[Saint]that's the backdrop, it looks a bit weird blank.
13:36:10copperwhere does the progress bar go?
13:36:55coppernm
13:37:03[Saint]Well I'd like to sit it right on top of the yellow/orange footer.
13:37:38copperyou backdrop isn't pixel perfect btw
13:37:54copperit's got aliasing / resizing artifacts
13:38:10[Saint]that'll just be imgur murdering it.
13:38:36[Saint]yeah, it got resized for some reason.
13:40:19[Saint]Hmm. imgur hates bitmaps with an alpha layer.
13:44:36[Saint]this is the icon color scheme, also suitably murdered in transit, for an idea of the color scheme http://imgur.com/a/3N9aH#0
13:45:10[Saint]ah, its just the previews that look awful
13:45:40copper[Saint]: something like this: https://outpost.fr/tmp/xPx.png/
13:46:05copper30% black over the orange strip for the progress bar background
13:46:15copper#666666 for the progress bar itself
13:46:30[Saint]I could color match to the edge of the icons.
13:46:46[Saint]its a similar color unless my eyes are very bad.
13:47:05[Saint](for the bar I mean.)
13:47:08copperthe icons are gradients :)
13:47:53[Saint]Yeah, sorry, I was going to pick from the darkest edge of the border.
13:48:03copperand regardless of color matching, you need to make sure whatever color you choose provides enough contrast while being discreet and harmonious enough
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13:50:08[Saint]That's why I asked, we're on a similar page though, which is nice. I'm a poor judge of color palette harmony.
13:50:34copperor dark orange (almost red), but I don't think it looks as good https://outpost.fr/tmp/Yev.png/
13:50:55coppergray is more in tune with the Rockbox palette
13:51:11copperyou can try various shades of gray
13:51:27[Saint]Bottom of the icons comes out at 464744
13:51:52copperalso make sure that the 30% black progressbar background is visible on your target device
13:52:08copperit can be visible on your PC monitor and not on your device
13:52:16copperor not visible enough
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13:53:32copperpersonally, I find it very difficult to work with colors on an application such as a music player interface, especially when it's going to display cover art with tons of different colors
13:54:17copperyou might end up with the stupid case of this one album with cover art that clashes horribly with your theme
13:54:43[Saint]...which is why pretty much every Android player color matches the UI to the dominant AA color.
13:54:50[Saint]Damn that's a smart trick.
13:54:55copperusing colors is less risky when you use them on elements that are separated from the rest by a white background
13:55:33copperi.e. an all white background, with distinct elements with colors, with the white background separating them from, say, the cover art
13:56:04copperI've tried to come up with a theme using the Rockbox colors, but I haven't figured it out yet
13:56:29copperanother tip that will avoid color clashing, is to use very dark tones
13:56:30[Saint]Its difficult. Hence my dilemma with the scrubber.
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13:56:49copperlike dark orange
13:57:12copperi.e. bright orange with a translucent black over it, playing with the transparency level of the black bit
13:57:40[Saint]I'm thinking possibly orange for the scrubber handle on the progress bar.
13:57:51copperor, or more reddish orange (the alpha black thing won't work for that)
13:58:27copper[Saint]: I'd go for a black status bar or whatever, with a thin bright orange progress bar, and an otherwise white background
13:58:59coppereh, that's been done already
13:59:11copperhttp://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1962&target=ipod6g
13:59:15copperamayer's theme
13:59:30copperit works quite well IMO
13:59:37coppervery clean
13:59:42copperhigh contrast
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14:00:26coppercome to think of it, I might work on an evolution of that theme
14:02:44copperthe trick is to not overuse the orange
14:03:47copperI'm starting to like the thick progress bar on that theme
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14:16:28[Saint]Hmmm. 4D4D4D, "VideoLAN Orange"
14:17:10[Saint]Thank you, Chrome page source viewer.
14:17:42copperblack / orange is a combination that's fairly common :)
14:18:11copperI like black / bright green, too
14:18:12dfkt#4d4d4d? that's a... subtle orange
14:19:45copperuh
14:19:46copperlol
14:19:52copperyeah, that's gray :)
14:22:46[Saint]Errr, sorry - pastebuffer screwup.
14:22:50[Saint]f48b00, rather.
14:23:21[Saint]and/or e85e00
14:25:00[Saint]Gah - Google uses a very similar orange.
14:25:23[Saint]but with a mostly whiteish theme
14:29:11[Saint]Anyhoo, thanks for the ideas - I'll mull over my options overnight - I might find myself dropping that bottom panel of yellow entirely and leaving it black.
14:29:37[Saint]But the top part has to stay. At least. I have plans for it.
14:32:09[Saint]The theme elements allow me to do so without too much fuss. Nothing is too set in stone thus far.
14:34:12[Saint]Maybe a dithered backdrop. That is very quintessentially "cabbie", which has become the face of Rockbox.
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17:39:13shpankhey guys! quick question. i got an ipod photo (4th gen) today but some idiot (probably myself a couple years ago) fucked with the file system on the ipod
17:39:37shpankrockbox utility won't install the bootloader because it can't read the old boot partition
17:39:40shpankwhat do i do now?
17:39:59shpankbtw: rockbox itself as well as the themes etc installed just fine
17:46:13shpank[ERR] Short read - requested 5387776 bytes, received 1756160
17:54:04shpankhmm... now the hard drive died
17:54:13shpankgood thing i have a spare one somewhere
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18:24:43gevaertsshpank: if you have a windows machine with itunes handy, use that. Otherwise, have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore
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18:30:01shpankgevaerts: thanks for the link. unfortunately the hdd really crapped out.
18:30:05shpankclicking noises and anything
18:30:15gevaertsoh :(
18:31:29shpankbut i immediately ordered a cf conversion kit as well as a new battery
18:31:46shpankso i will probably bother you again next week :)
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