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#rockbox log for 2014-06-19

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00:36:52TheSevensteffengy1 now has a working ipod classic RB bootloader
00:37:10TheSevensize, including bootloader USB, is ~70KB
00:37:28TheSevenwe have some trouble detecting the button and hold switch state
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00:37:53[Saint]Where is this development/discussion taking place?
00:37:57[Saint]I seem to be missing it.
00:37:59TheSevenskype
00:38:03[Saint]Ah.
00:38:29TheSevenI'll mention all relevant things here anyway
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09:53:42[Saint]TheSeven: was there anything other than g#844 that needed looking at on Classic/N2G?
09:53:44fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #844 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/844 : 3usb-designware: New USB driver for Synopsys DesignWare USB OTG core. by Michael Sparmann
09:56:02TheSevennothing published right now
09:56:09TheSevenwe're working on an RB bootloader for the classic
09:56:54TheSevenwhat needs a closer look is that g#844 patch (without the prereqs on classic, with just the cache one on nano2g)
09:56:56fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #844 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/844 : 3usb-designware: New USB driver for Synopsys DesignWare USB OTG core. by Michael Sparmann
09:57:28TheSevenwrt. stability on various platforms and HID behavior (that seems to still be broken in some way that I don't understand)
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10:05:01[Saint]Hmmmmm.
10:06:16[Saint]Nope, can't build it.
10:06:19[Saint]Odd.
10:07:53[Saint]TheSeven: http://pastebin.com/k1p2xFVJ
10:09:15[Saint]Just for my sanity I check a single threaded build, and it fails the same way.
10:11:27TheSevenhm...
10:11:50TheSevenI'm using a newer compiler these days, so it might be some old gcc bug
10:12:06TheSevenI really don't get what it's complaining about in line 522 though
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10:12:21[Saint]GCC 4.8.2
10:12:29[Saint]So, not new new, but not ancient.
10:12:35TheSevenhm
10:13:23TheSevenand not a rockbox supported one either... I'm using some 4.9.0 build
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10:21:34[Saint]WHat toolchain do you use?
10:23:26[Saint]I suppose whatever toolchain you're using to build Rockbox and emCORE is a giant fuckaround to compile?
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10:30:05TheSeven[Saint]: not at all
10:30:34TheSevenvery similar to rockboxdev.sh: https://github.com/EliasOenal/TNT
10:31:06TheSeventhe hard to build parts are emcore specific: mostly elf2emcoreapp
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10:33:58JdGordon_so I had an interesting reason to possibly explain all the random skin crashes which never had an explanation....
10:34:13[Saint]Hm?
10:34:58JdGordon_scrolling lines from the skins use the viewport * which lives in the skin buffer which isnt getting moved on rebuffer
10:35:09JdGordon_im not sure if thats actually a valid explanantion or not
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10:36:55JdGordon_and i have a way to get rid of those nasty SKINOFFSETTOPTR() macro bullshit
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10:39:34JdGordon_is the buflib move callback called before or after the data has moved?
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10:45:30pamauryJdGordon_: before, because it returns BUFLIB_CB_CANNOT_MOVE if it cannot be moved
10:46:11pamauryand if you need synchronization with others parts of the code, there is the sync callback which is called before and after
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11:31:46JdGordon_err, does the scroll thread change the viewport for each scoll line?
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11:37:05JdGordon_ah fonud it, lcd-scroll.c, yeah, I reckon there is definately reason to belive this could crash
11:50:11JdGordon_pamaury: hey, can you get the person with the skin crash to try g#877 please?
11:50:13fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #877 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/877 : 3skin_engine: kill scrolling if the buffer moves by Jonathan Gordon
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13:06:06pamauryJdGordon_: sure
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20:58:34sLiteis there any way to disable usb mass storage on the ipod port?
20:59:24sLitemy car puts the ipod to mass storage automatically on plugging the usb cable to the car stereo
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21:01:20AlexPYou want to charge only? If so, hold any button on plugging in
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21:04:51sLitewell, the thing is, if i start my car
21:05:25sLitei always forget to do it
21:05:31sLiteand then im on the road
21:05:57sLiteit automatically boots up on power and goes into mass storage mode
21:06:16AlexPYou would need to fiddle with the bootloader to do anything about that I think
21:06:17sLitei would need to disable it completely, and only enable when i need it
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23:00:47TheSevensLite: which ipod model?
23:00:57sLite5.5
23:01:31TheSevenhm, I don't know much about those, but as far as I know you wouldn't have to mess with the bootloader, just with the USB detection logic of the main firmware
23:01:47TheSevenit might be easiest to completely disable USB in rockbox and use disk mode to transfer files
23:01:57sLiteyeah thats what i also thought
23:02:05sLitehow would i do that?
23:02:18*amiconn would like to understand why the build system apparently doesn't use all build clients efficiently
23:02:19TheSevencomment some lines in firmware/export/config/ipodvideo.h
23:02:40sLiteah ok, in the code, ic :) thought im just overlooking something
23:02:51TheSevenI don't fully understand why it goes to USB mode though - I thought somewhat recent (as in a few years) rockbox builds would only do that if they actually detect a USB host on the bus
23:03:09sLitewell my car radio is a usb host
23:03:27TheSevenso... what do you want it to do? just charge?
23:03:35gevaertssLite: change usb.c line 139 to say "usb_charging_only = !detect;"
23:03:44gevaertsThat should invert the button logic
23:03:51TheSeventhe car radio isn't ipod aware I guess?
23:04:08TheSevenyou might be able to work around it by putting one of these "charge only" adapters in between then
23:04:11sLitejup, bit i might just get a power supply for the cigarette lighter :>
23:04:15amiconnThe last two rounds ran without the powerful bunch of roolku's boxes, so they took rather long (1350 sec and 959 sec respectively), yet my 'halley' client effectively ran for just 11 sec resp. 75 sec
23:04:27TheSevenwhich basically disconnect the data lines and fake a power supply towards the ipod
23:05:01TheSevenamiconn: possibly somehow related to the recent server outage?
23:05:14sLiteok, i think ill compile my own version for now, until i get some hardware to fix it
23:05:20sLitethx TheSeven, gevaerts
23:07:01amiconnMost probably not. The effect is less noticeable with the overall shorter standard build rounds, yet it's nearly always there
23:07:42TheSevensLite: if you have a spare USB extension cord somewhere, you can easily build such an adapter yourself
23:08:04sLiteok, ill take a look :)
23:08:04amiconnWith the shorter rounds, my guess is that speculative build phase starts very early, and slower boxes are overtaken by faster ones almost every time
23:08:05TheSevenbasically cut it somewhere, connect red to red, black to black as usual
23:08:15TheSeventhen connect the ipod side green pin to the ipod side white pin
23:08:17TheSeventhat's id
23:08:21TheSeventhat's it*
23:08:34amiconnBut with the long rounds it's completely unclear what might cause this
23:09:02gevaertsIf you do that, make sure you use a good cable though. No point in making a charge cable that's too thin to charge over :)
23:09:24TheSevenipods don't need *that* much current, compared to phones
23:09:52*TheSeven typically uses USB connectors from broken thumbdrives, and sockets and cases from those useless USB-PS2 adapters to build such things
23:11:48sLiteaight :)
23:11:51sLitethx a lot
23:12:54TheSevenamiconn: hm. my core i3 client had to fight with some heavy database and disk maintenance tasks, and still got 11 builds
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23:15:27TheSevenamiconn: could that checkwps taking 11 seconds have thrown off speed estimation somehow?
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23:16:29TheSevenwhat happened to roolku's clients btw?
23:16:42TheSevenis it coincidence that they went missing during the server downtime?
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23:20:18*TheSeven wonders why nobody silenced that sim_read/sim_write warning yet
23:21:26*TheSeven also wonders why builds for some targets seem to randomly go missing
23:22:03amiconnHmm, it seems my proxytunnel contruction is rather unstable. Apparently builds which ran during a reconnect are logged as done locally, but the server ignores them
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23:26:55pixelmaReminds me of the time the old laptop took part in the build rounds and almost always git sim builds to do, and then of course got still beaten by better build boxes
23:27:51pixelmaCould have done bootloader builds instead
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23:39:55bertrikpixelma: my laptop always seems to get a lot of bootloaders to build
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