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#rockbox log for 2014-08-15

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01:18:00franklinDoes snprintf work with doubles?
01:18:19franklinI try snprintf(buf, 128, "%f", pi), and all I get is "f"
01:18:37franklin(so I'm assuming no, but is there a way?)
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04:41:32[Saint][7]: ping?
04:42:20[Saint][7]: (logs} can you walk me through updating emCORE without using UMSboot?
04:42:42*franklin pings [7] for the third time today
04:42:43[Saint]UMSboot just locks the device up hard.
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08:41:28user890104[Saint]: which version of UMSboot?
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08:48:24tenzipHello, anyone there?
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09:11:55TheSeven[Saint]: which UMSboot version does that?
09:12:09TheSevenif you have emcore tools, you can just do python runfirmware 0x08000000 installer-*.ubi
09:13:16TheSevenuser890104: no, didn't nail down the timer thing yet, I let franklin mess around with it
09:13:41TheSevenit's about the lowest priority issue that we have right now anyway ;)
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11:22:49copperhow come AAC is so much slower to decode than Vorbis (and even MP3)?
11:23:22funmancopper: it's "Advanced" so more complex?
11:23:49funmanthough it would depend on what kind of AAC file as there are several profiles
11:24:06copperlow complexity
11:24:11copper~192 kbps
11:24:29copperthat's on the Classic
11:24:44copperI got totally different test_codec results on the Clip+
11:26:07funmanhow different?
11:26:21copperI ran those a while ago
11:29:18funmannero 320 is about 1.5 times slower than lame 320 on both
11:35:36copperwavpack could use a boost too
11:36:06copperand FLAC always wins by a large margin
12:06:17relafunman: remember my problem with certain mp3s?
12:06:27relafunman: i have updated to the latest dev build which solved the problem
12:06:36relareason: idk :)
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15:11:37timemobwhat is warning: 0000002 during recording
15:12:00timemobI just
15:12:01timemoblost 5 days of record due to this
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17:37:50franklingevaerts, do you know of a todo list for the Classic? a list of bugs?
17:38:18gevaertsfranklin: why do you *always* keep asking me about everything?
17:38:38franklinBecause who else is there to ask? :) You seem to know a lot
17:39:15gevaertsThe entire idea of an irc channel is that you can ask everyone
17:39:29franklinBut no one else answers ;)
17:40:04plocoJdGordon: I've test the g#913 and leave you some comments. its almost there.
17:40:07fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #913 at : 3Call the setting callbacks from the touchregions by Jonathan Gordon
17:40:21franklinAt any moment, only about 10% of people are actually at the keyboard...
17:40:29franklin(and I know you'll be one of them :))
17:41:02franklinok then, does /anyone/ know of a todo list/bug list for the iPod classic?
17:41:48plocoonce its fix, then I will add the missing callback for EQ cutoff, gain, and q...also for replay-gain pre-amp.
17:43:12plocoand [Saint], do you know balance doesn't do anything on Android? we can change the value but nothing will happen.
17:43:38franklin[Saint] is away
17:44:23franklin(but he might read the logs, so ask anyway)
17:46:49ploco.....I am not asking. trying to pass a message of current issue. and you just blocked my toughs
17:46:57gevaertsploco: feel free to ignore franklin
17:48:58ploco[Saint]: in order to make the balance to work on android, I could make a dsp that manipulated the sound on the fly. so its not a major problem at all.
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18:11:12IgoRCLhi, guys.
18:11:32IgoRCLSorry for offtopic but we need some participants here
18:14:36gevaertsTheSeven: that's the third time someone tells us about this. You know it's off-topic, isn't once enough?
18:16:37gevaertsIgoRCL: that's the third time someone tells us about this. You know it's off-topic, isn't once enough?
18:16:47gevaertsTheSeven: sorry, wrong tabbing
18:17:26IgoRCLgevaerts: Sorry
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18:29:08franklinbertrik, did you write the timer code for the classic? if so, can you help me with it?
18:29:34bertrikI think I wrote some stuff for s5lxxxx, not specifically for the classic
18:29:47bertrikxxxx=8701 if I remember correctly
18:29:50franklinoh, the copyright has your name in it :)
18:30:22franklinBut the problem is, it doesn't work! :(
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18:31:20franklinThe timer interrupt is never generated, so the timer doesn't work...
18:33:06bertriklooks like I wrote the timer in firmware/target/arm/s5l8700 which was later copied to s5l8702
18:35:57franklinSo maybe the SoCs aren't compatible?
18:36:08franklinAt least not with TIMERC
18:36:17franklin(piezo uses TIMERA, and it works fine)
18:37:54bertrikhm, I don't know, maybe the timer just isn't enabled, or maybe it works fine but the interrupt does not
18:40:12bertrikperhaps you can show the counter value in a debug menu to verify if the timer is running at all
18:41:33franklinThe counter value? TCCNT?
18:42:42franklinIt stays at zero, (10 ticks after the timer is set)
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18:46:15franklinStrange... timer a works (for the piezo), but timer c doesn't
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18:49:27franklinSo any idea why?
18:53:45franklinBut why would it work on the nano2g but not the classic? Does it even work on the n2g?
18:54:46bertrikI have a couple of ideas, IIRC peripherals like the timer can be put into reset and also have their clock gated off, so perhaps it's somehow still in reset state, or it's not receiving a clock signal
18:55:20bertrikor maybe it's being interfered with by some other software module that thinks it has exclusive access to timer c
18:55:45bertrikor indeed the SoC is a little bit different
18:56:02bertriklike TIMERC being not present, or at a different base address
18:56:29bertrikor the timer is running off a different clock signal
18:56:35franklinYeah, I thought it could be something else using TIMERC also
18:56:41franklinAny idea what?
18:56:57bertrikno, I'd grep for it
18:57:05franklinTheSeven thought it was because of the clock gate too
18:57:17franklin(well, it /could/ be because of the clock gate)
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18:58:24franklinYeah, that would be a huge grep that would return a ton of false positives :)
18:58:28bertrikmaybe you can display the clock gate register in a debug menu
18:59:02bertrikas far as I can tell, timer c is not used by other peripherals, except for the meizu but that's a completely different target
18:59:14franklinso clock gate?
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18:59:53bertrikpossibly, I'd have to read the datasheet again to see which register contains the clock gates
19:04:17bertrikthe s5l8700 has only one clock gate bit called TIMERclkON
19:04:51bertrikin the PWRCON register
19:05:09bertrikso if TIMERA works, then TIMERC should work too according to that theory
19:05:49bertrikbut maybe there's a separate bit for timer C in the '02
19:09:50bertrikoh, looks like the '02 has two PWRCON registers, while the '00 has only 1
19:11:14bertrikhm, '00 has PWRCON + PWRCONEXT, '02 has PWRCON(0) and PWRCON(1), maybe they are actually the same
19:11:51*bertrik if confused by the code
19:18:12franklinwhere's the datasheet?
19:18:54franklinmaybe I need to set PWRCON?
19:22:12copperfranklin: did you consider my suggestion to implement Made for iPod headphone remote control?
19:22:27franklinI don't have any, so I can't test ;)
19:22:57bertrikfranklin: I have a local copy, not sure where I got it from
19:23:10franklinIs it legal to share?
19:23:11copperthe Classic has a TRRS socket and it's still unused
19:23:24bertrikit's called S5L8700X.pdf
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20:23:02franklinTheSeven: ping
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20:31:15franklincopper, regarding made for iPod remotes, I don't think the classic has the right hardware to interface with them
20:31:35franklin(though it's hard to tell without taking mine apart)
20:32:44copperfranklin: yes it does
20:32:51franklinNo... wait! It's listed as compatible here:
20:33:04copperI know
20:33:26franklinlol stupid me...
20:33:57franklinBut I have no idea how the volume buttons work
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20:35:09franklinYeah, looking inside the jack shows 3 ring contacts and one tip contact
20:35:25franklinBut how do the volume controls work?
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20:35:59franklin(or are there volume buttons? I don't have one of these!)
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20:40:23copperyou could try to find cheap "Made for iPod" earbuds or something
20:40:39copperanyway, that would be a relatively major enhancement for the Classic port
20:41:05franklinwhen I have some time...
20:41:22franklinSo you mean earpods, too
20:41:44copperyeah but those cost like 30 euros
20:41:58copperI almost wanted to buy a pair just to see what they're like
20:42:02franklineuros? where are you? :)
20:42:09TheSevenfranklin: pong
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20:42:36franklinTheSeven, you might want to read the backlog between me and bertrik about the timer
20:42:46TheSevenfranklin: the 3rd generation classic actually has the "mikey" hardware
20:42:55TheSevenbut we have no idea how it is hooked up
20:43:01TheSevenheadphone remote
20:43:01franklinWhat's that?
20:43:09franklinDoes the 1st gen?
20:43:22TheSevenno, only the 3rd/4th generation model (160GB thin)
20:43:40franklinah so I am lacking the player to test them, too
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20:43:59franklinSo you can't use made for ipod earbuds with 6G?
20:44:07franklinIs that what you mean?
20:44:19copperyou can
20:44:35franklinyou sure?
20:44:39TheSevenfranklin: also:
20:44:51franklinyay finally :)
20:45:26franklinAnd also, what is the emCORE console meant to do? nothing?
20:46:30TheSevenfranklin: the clockgate hypothesis was somewhat confirmed by control register values for timer C not sticking. could also be that this timer is just not present on that SoC though
20:47:12franklinSo the timer is just in sleep mode the whole time?
20:47:46TheSevenbertrik (for the logs): 8702/8720 have up to 5 clock gate registers, that's why I changed the naming. most gates are in 0 or 1 though
20:49:05TheSevenfranklin: I don't know it... did setting PWRCON(0/1) to zero make the register values stick that previously didn't?
20:49:31franklinIIRC, no
20:49:43franklinBut I'll try again to make sure
20:50:13TheSevenin that case it looks like that timer just physically isn't present on that chip
20:51:55franklinI'll try it again
20:52:02franklinAfter 100 ticks this time
20:52:32franklinBTW, is there any work on the n3g port?
20:52:42TheSevenjust check if the value that you read from a control register (e.g. TCCTL) changes after writing a different value to it
20:52:48TheSevenfranklin: not at this time
20:53:19TheSevenit has the same SoC so a port would be somewhat easy, but nobody even cared enough about that oddball device to figure out the SDRAM timings, let alone the power manager chip or FTL
20:53:34franklinTCCON, TCCMD and TCPRE are all zero...
20:53:43franklinSo TIMERC doesn't exist on the 8702!
20:54:15franklin(and therefore, all the other timers don't exist either?!)
20:54:18TheSevenwrite PWRCON(0)=0, PWRCON(1)=0, then read TCCON, write 0xffff to TCCON, read TCCON again
20:54:31TheSevenif both reads result in 0000, then it's likely not present
20:56:22franklinWhat's timer B used for?
20:57:23franklinTheSeven, after writing 0xBEEF to TCCON, it still has the value of zero!
20:57:30franklinSo there is no timer C on the 8702
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20:58:57franklinAnd PWRCON(0/1) are all set to zero
21:00:47TheSevenIIRC timer B is the system tick timer
21:01:01franklinYep it is...
21:01:09franklinSo there's only timer A/B
21:01:25TheSevenwhat about the higher ones? D/E/F/G/H?
21:01:29TheSevenwhich of those exist?
21:01:30franklinA is used in the piezo, B is used to call the tick tasks...
21:01:36TheSevenone of them is the microsecond timer
21:01:45franklinSince C doesn't exist, I don't think any of those should exist :)
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21:02:32TheSevenI'm sure that some do, in fact we're using them already
21:02:44franklinok then, which are we not using?
21:02:56franklin(never mind... I can use grep :))
21:03:04TheSeventry to figure out which one is the microsecond timer
21:04:37TheSevenit's the one that has its counter register at 0x3c7000b4
21:04:44TheSevenwhich timer number does that map to?
21:05:06franklintimer E
21:05:15franklinwhich doesn't look to be used, either
21:05:22TheSevenso using D might be worth a try
21:05:31franklinyou mean timer E?
21:05:41TheSevenno, E is the microsecond timer
21:05:49TheSevenI'm not sure if it's even configurable
21:07:51franklinThe register values stick
21:12:14franklinBut it doesn't work :(
21:12:51TheSeveni.e. TDCNT doesn't count?
21:14:20franklinwait, no I was using timer E!
21:14:39franklinstupidity is not curable :)
21:16:17franklinok gotta go
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22:37:59DiniduPereraHey, Can someone add me,
22:38:15DiniduPererato the wiki users group
22:39:03DiniduPereraNeed to make a change to the install instructions for the Sansa C200
22:39:59gevaertsOne moment
22:41:10gevaertsDiniduPerera: if I did things right, you should have access now
22:42:34DiniduPereraSorry, still getting an access denied message.
22:42:42DiniduPerera"Access check on Main.SansaC200Port failed. Action "CHANGE": access not allowed on web."
22:45:11gevaertsDiniduPerera: can you try again?
22:45:20*gevaerts thinks he did it wrong the first time
22:49:25DiniduPereraah, right, thanks.
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23:08:29DiniduPereraAlright, I've made my edit. When I was trying to install firmware on my C200, I was getting errors about the disk not being accessible. Had to sudo the RockBoxUtility to get it to work.
23:08:54DiniduPereraI left instructions on the wiki, in case anyone else has the same problem.
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23:19:17gevaertsWell, the manual already does say that :)
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