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#rockbox log for 2014-09-04

00:24:00[Saint]There's nothing intrinsically wrong with building in the source directory, its fine for "Joe Average", which the wiki is targeting.
00:24:17[Saint]Shouldn't realistically need to explain this to anyone interested in active development.
00:24:30[Franklin]hehe... clearing everything :)
00:24:44[Franklin]that thing gevaerts told me... what was it? git clean -rfn or something?
00:24:50[Saint]but, foolsh is right, you set yourself up to fail here.
00:25:03[Franklin]I got out of it... :)
00:25:08[Franklin]Git is pretty much failsafe
00:26:44[Saint]Doing all your work against master sure is an...interesting choice.
00:26:59[Franklin]it works :)
00:27:18[Saint]So does checking out a new branch.
00:27:23[Franklin] is a godsend when converting a new code
00:27:25[Saint]Much easier to clean up after yourself too.
00:27:37[Franklin]I /do/ have multiple branches :)
00:27:45[Franklin]one for each gerrit task
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00:28:39[Saint]But you said you managed to break
00:28:47[Franklin]but vanilla is ok
00:28:52[Franklin]always will be
00:29:08[Saint]having a "vanilla" branch is pretty braindead.
00:29:11[Franklin]that was just that I merged with upstream (vanilla) and didn't build to make sure it's fine
00:29:15[Saint]That's _exactly_ what master is.
00:29:17[Franklin]ok then.. what should I do?
00:29:31[Franklin]call master something else (working) and call vanilla master?
00:29:33[Saint]"master" is your vanilla branch.
00:30:06[Franklin]and working is my working copy :)
00:30:11[Franklin]with everything in it
00:31:29*[Saint] wonders why people think it acceptable to request support from me via PM
00:32:59[Franklin]all the goodies
00:33:02[Franklin]not me :)
00:34:51[Franklin][Saint], on flyspray, do patches need to be applied in order?
00:35:02[Franklin]or just take the original files and the most recent patch?
00:35:29[Saint]that depends entirely on the author.
00:35:46[Saint]some people put braindead concurrent patches, some people will put an all-in-one.
00:36:54*[Franklin] loves Git
00:39:37[Franklin]ugh... patches :(
00:41:25[Franklin]thankfully some of the people posted all-in-one patches... including the last one :)
00:41:34fs-bluebot 3Amaze - 3D maze game plugin (patches, unconfirmed)
00:41:51[Franklin]but it seems to use the old plugin code... so some cleanup to do
00:43:41[Franklin]what?! they include pla but define their own keymap!?
00:43:52[Franklin]oh... never mind...
00:43:59[Franklin]then PLA if availible
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01:05:37*[Saint] always questions the tone of his posts
01:06:01[Saint]That seems to me to be very much "YOUR DOIN' IT WRONG - FUCKER!"
01:06:05[Saint]I know its not...
01:06:10[Saint]Well, I hope its not.
01:06:37[Franklin]it's hilarious... but who wants to read a 3-paragraph post?
01:07:23[Saint]People who want support.
01:07:34[Franklin]Just say: you did this wrong... do this to do it right
01:08:05[Saint]That's not particularly useful without explaining *why* <foo> is "wrong" and <bar> is "right".
01:08:18[Franklin]then if they ask why
01:11:52[Franklin]"Note"... "Also, please note"... "The basic gist of what I'm saying"... "If..." ... "I note that".........
01:12:31[Saint]Congratulations, welcome to the English language.
01:13:14foolshThats just more work for [Saint], you're doing a fine job pointing out what everyone else fails to see IMO
01:13:48foolshMight as well get it all out there the first time
01:14:08[Franklin]It's great... but you aren't compensated and I feel kind of back
01:14:12[Saint]There are times when I question myself in doing so, but over the years I have learned to "pre-answer" potential questions to save time.
01:14:37[Franklin]I mean... who would *want* to do that for free? how long does one of those take you?
01:14:47[Saint]If I think someone will turn around and ask /why/, I'll try to cover the reasoning of my thoughts beforehand.
01:15:01[Franklin]ok... fs#8647 ready to go
01:15:02fs-bluebot 3Amaze - 3D maze game plugin (patches, unconfirmed)
01:15:32[Saint]I handle this support because someone was courteous enough to do the same for me when I was a newfag.
01:15:59[Franklin]who was that?
01:16:16[Franklin]and thank you
01:18:52[Franklin]ok... g948
01:18:54fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #948 at : 3FS #8647: Amaze - 3D maze game plugin by Franklin Wei
01:20:12[Franklin]1600 lines *exactly*
01:25:42foolsh[Franklin]: I'll check that one out later. I'm not at my dev box, sounds like that old BASIC game icecave from my childhood days
01:25:54[Franklin]probably is :)
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02:21:37fs-bluebot[Franklin]: ouch!
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02:38:01[Saint][Franklin]: the wikiviewer patch was never accepted - authorship is unclear.
02:38:23[Saint]the comments detail this.
02:38:36[Franklin]I remember zagor pulled it into svn
02:39:49[Franklin]no it was gevaerts
02:40:42[Saint]I...what? How? A: It didn't happen, and B: We haven't been using subversion for *aaaaaaaages*, way before you came on the scene.
02:41:31[Franklin]Oh... gevaerts said he didn't write any code, but not that he commited it
02:41:38[Franklin](I commented on it), not commited
02:41:46[Franklin]sorry... assumptions
02:42:13[Saint]That's not ever going to get committed unless someone cleanrooms it.
02:42:25[Saint]We couldn't commit it.
02:42:35[Franklin]so... people just need to build it themselves?
02:42:41[Franklin]what a pity
02:43:00[Franklin]maybe I'll host the binaries
02:43:01[Saint]Well, you're welcome to do a cleanroom reimplementation.
02:43:19*[Franklin] hates rewriting code
02:43:59[Franklin](btw, if I were to do it, could I use the code as a reference or would something make that illegal?)
02:44:38[Saint]Of course you could use it as a reference.
02:45:03[Saint]What you can't do is a straight c/p of the bits with authorship in contention.
02:45:14[Franklin]yes, of course
02:46:31[Franklin]but wow... that wikiviewer is awesome
02:46:46[Franklin]so could I host binaries of it along with a link to the source?
02:50:05[Saint]You /could/, but you'd get yourself into a questionable situation by associating files with unclear authorship with other GPL licensed code.
02:50:35[Franklin]that's good... whoever doesn't want their code under GPL comes and complains, and I know which sections to rewrite :)
02:50:45[Saint]Could anyone stop you? No. Is it right? No.
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09:43:01wodzTheSeven: your driver uses a few bits which are marked as reserved in DS. It would be nice to comment where from comes the knowledge about this fields.
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11:30:15TheSevenwodz: otg_hs, otg_fs, the stm driver, the s3c6400x datasheet and the linux driver
11:31:04TheSevensome of these are actually "reserved, write as one" in the stm datasheet, mostly phy configuration bits (which are just "reserved" to the correct values for the internal phy in the datasheet)
11:32:57wodzyeah, its mostly phy part in GUSBCFG
11:35:52wodzTheSeven: Also I see some loops without timeouts waiting for setting/clearing some bits in otg registers. This looks dangerous for me.
11:36:21wodzI'd add timeout and panicf() if expired
11:38:43wodzTheSeven: what is the status of new driver on n2g?
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12:06:44funmando you want tests on AMSv2?
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12:27:38wodzfunman: I first want to bring this driver into shape which can be considered for inclusion
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12:32:34funmani was wondering if i could be of any help
12:32:47funmaneven though i've been away for some time
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13:37:46wodzTheSeven: ping again
13:37:55TheSevenwodz: pong
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13:38:17wodzusb_drv_release_endpoint() looks fishy
13:39:07TheSevenwodz: those busy waiting loops are indeed a bit dangerous - I've seen them lock up the CPU, but only if the USB hardware was locked up due to a previous bug, which would have requierd a complete reset anyway
13:39:26TheSeventhe new driver should work on n2g with the ARMv4 cache coherency patch applied
13:39:51wodzTheSeven: struct usb_endpoint_number ep = { .byte = epnum }; Does epnum code direction part in bit7 ?
13:40:05wodzTheSeven: last time I tried it didn't
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13:41:17TheSevenwodz: er, how would it otherwise tell us the direction?
13:41:51wodzTheSeven: that was my question actually, so epnum & 0x80 gives you direction right?
13:42:05TheSeventypically yes
13:42:15TheSevenor rather epnum >> 7
13:44:03wodzwell, epnum is int so >>7 doesn't have to resolve into 0 or 1
13:44:13wodzI mean in case of bug somewhere
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13:53:36wodz\o/: rewrite compiles :-)
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14:05:19[Saint]woo - gerrit that shizzle, yo.
14:09:14wodzdamn, I fucked something up and instead of uploading new version to the old task I created new one. Anyway for brave people with classic at hand: g#949
14:09:17fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #949 at : 3usb-designware: New USB driver for Synopsys DesignWare USB OTG core. by Michael Sparmann
14:09:48wodz[Saint], TheSeven ^
14:11:31TheSevenwodz: huh? are indented #defines allowed?
14:11:56*TheSeven is confused that it compiles :P
14:12:38wodzTheSeven: intended defines were always allowed
14:13:02TheSevenIIRC there may be space between the # and the define, but not before the #
14:13:06TheSevenat least with older gccs...
14:13:49wodzwell, I compiled some very old program with gcc 2.95.1 and it had intended defines
14:14:11wodzanyway, I can deintend it if this is big deal
14:14:25TheSevenI've seen problems with that, but I can't remember where
14:14:58TheSevenDESIGNWARE_DOEPCTL(ep) |= (EPDIS|SNAK); // usb_dw_config.core->outep_regs[ep].doepctl.b.snak = 1;
14:14:59TheSeven/ usb_dw_config.core->outep_regs[ep].doepctl.b.epdis = 1;
14:14:59TheSeventhis needs a closer look, as it's a semantic change. I'm not 100% certain if the sequence in the datasheet allows setting both at once. otherwise I'd already have done that in the bitfield version...
14:15:30TheSevenprobably doesn't matter for the OUT pipe though
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14:18:08wodzTheSeven: 'Whitespace is allowed before and after the #.' - quote from cpp manual
14:18:18TheSevenhm, interesting
14:20:47gevaerts"A preprocessing directive consists of a sequence of preprocessing tokens that begins with a # preprocessing token that (at the start of translation phase 4) is either the first character in the source file (optionally after white space containing no new-line characters) or that follows white space containing at least one new-line character, and is ended by the next new-line character."
14:21:02gevaerts(C99 spec)
14:21:28gevaertsI read that as "You can have spaces before the #"
14:21:52wodzI don't have hardware to test this myself as I don't have classic so others please do the honors
14:22:34wodzgevaerts: did you test g#434 on your irivers?
14:22:36fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #434 at : 3optimize WSPLL work for iriver h100 and h300 series by Dmitry Gamza
14:22:43gevaertsNo, not yet
14:22:49gevaertsI'll try to remember tonight
14:23:02gevaertsWell, I can test on h1x0
14:23:16gevaertsThe h320 isn't in working state right now
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14:27:50laszlofanyone have experience accessing recovery mode on the Clip+? I'm using this guide ( but cant seem to get it to go into recovery mode.
14:29:04funmanif you ever need to go into recovery mode it means your device is broken anyway
14:29:57laszlofwell, not in this case.
14:30:04fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 489c9a6, 253 builds, 29 clients.
14:30:29laszlofthe device works, just has some locked down firmware on it that doesnt allow write access. friend of mine gave it to me to see if I could fix it
14:30:52wodzfamoust 'prison version'?
14:30:57laszlofthats the one
14:31:23funmanlaszlof: ok, so it should work on the clip+
14:31:50funmanis it a 'rev13' ?
14:31:59laszlofum, not sure.
14:32:19laszlofboard says rev21
14:32:45laszloflooks identical to the picture
14:32:49laszlofcept for the revision.
14:32:49funmanwhat happens when you plug usb while shorting the pins?
14:32:55laszlofjust boots up like normal
14:33:18laszlofConnected -> Writing -> Sandisk logo
14:34:54funmanit should be a black screen
14:35:56laszlofthere we go
14:36:08laszlofmust have had a bad connection
14:36:16laszloffsck -l lists a drive with no partitions
14:36:21funmanwhich size?
14:36:35laszlofDisk /dev/sdb: 7948 MB, 7948206080 bytes
14:36:36laszlof245 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1021 cylinders, total 15523840 sectors
14:37:05funmanin my case it was 1GB
14:37:11funmanwhat do the first bytes look like?
14:37:20laszlofyeah, this is an 8GB model
14:37:38funmanrecovery drive was 1G for 4G model
14:38:06laszlofshould I use dd to pull the pull the first 2 bytes?
14:38:27funmanxxd /dev/sdX | head
14:38:59laszlof0000000: 0000 0000 00f0 0000 c618 f15c 0901 0000 ...........\....
14:38:59laszlof0000010: c410 0200 0300 0000 4e28 0000 4000 0000 ........N(..@...
14:40:27fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3Build round completed after 623 seconds.
14:40:54funmanlooks good
14:41:17funmanI suggest making a copy of that FW btw
14:42:01laszlofjust did
14:42:22funmanbs=512 count=$((0xf000)) ?
14:44:10funmannow I guess we're all waiting to see if you can downgrade it to another OF and rockbox it ;)
14:44:24laszlofhm, need to find one
14:44:36laszlofi know the .bin file is on the sandisk website, but can I just dd that to the device?
14:44:47laszlofhm, lets give it a shot
14:44:51funmancheck if the header is similar
14:45:40laszlofflaszlo@odin:~/Downloads$ xxd clppa.bin | head
14:45:40laszlof0000000: 0000 0000 00f0 0000 4025 07c0 0601 0000 ........@%......
14:45:40laszlof0000010: f80b 0200 0300 0000 4428 0000 4000 0000 ........D(..@...
14:46:00funmanlooks good
14:46:53laszlofhere goes
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14:49:46laszlofeh, thinkin that didnt work
14:49:52laszlofwont turn on
14:50:03laszlofjust black screen
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14:56:16funmanyou could try to dd a patched bin too
14:58:34laszlofif I can get it to recognize it again
14:58:40laszlofSep 4 08:57:39 odin kernel: [172370.002824] usb 2-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 60 using xhci_hcd
14:58:43laszlofSep 4 08:57:44 odin kernel: [172375.008257] xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: Timeout while waiting for address device command
14:58:46laszlofSep 4 08:57:44 odin kernel: [172375.212601] usb 2-1.1: Device not responding to set address.
14:58:49laszlofSep 4 08:57:44 odin kernel: [172375.416693] usb 2-1.1: device not accepting address 60, error -71
14:58:52laszlofSep 4 08:57:44 odin kernel: [172375.416789] hub 2-1:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
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14:59:42funmanmake sure you start with it powered off
15:00:59laszlofthe screen is black. I assume its ogg
15:01:49funmanit could be running some bad code, try forcing power button for a while
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15:16:24laszlofgot it to boot up
15:16:29laszlofand crashed my PC when I connected it
15:17:16laszlofdoes the stock firmware have an LCD test?
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15:18:40laszlofand somehow all te music didnt get wiped
15:28:58funmanthere's a diagnostic mode
15:29:49laszlofya, i broke it trying to dd a patched.bin to the thing
15:29:57laszlofgot it now
15:30:08laszlofthat helped
15:30:33laszlofhmm, says file not found with the firmware
15:30:58laszlofand goes into bootloader USB mode
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15:32:15funmanlooks good
15:32:22funmannow you must unpack a rockbox build
15:32:37laszlofyeah, can probably use the utility at this point
15:37:36laszlofcopying the music back on now.
15:38:18laszlofthanks for your help btw. :)
15:39:03laszlofyou get a lot of these things coming through here?
15:40:03funmanwell some people come and ask about recovery mode but only after their device is broken, I assumed it was your case
15:40:41funmanI think you're the first to successfully use that mode after myself years ago
15:41:21funmannow maybe someone can find a flaw in that prison OF that would let us patch it without using the recovery mode
15:42:02laszlofwont save anything you write to it
15:42:36 Part LinusN
15:43:24laszlofim a developer myself, but not much info hardware. I do mostly web stuff
15:44:04funmanI had heard about these locked down devices but have no idea how much are in circulation
15:46:02laszlofwell, as far as I know everyone in federal prison buys them
15:47:01funmanand keep them after being released?
15:47:58laszlofsure. they're paying hundreds of dollars on music
15:48:12funmancan you share the OF you extracted off it?
15:48:17laszlofone sec
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16:10:07laszlofis there a trick to getting this thing to load the clppa.bin file i put in the root? I'm trying to restore the stock firmware on it
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16:12:36funmanhm no there's no trick
16:12:53funmanit might have been disabled in the boot rom
16:14:04laszloftried just copying it over and booting the stock firmware (hold left arrow) and it just booted like normal
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16:20:26laszlofthere we go
16:20:41laszlofhad to "safely remove device"
16:22:44funmanah so it updates ?
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21:14:29*gevaerts tries to reduce the number of useless theme site reports
21:16:29copperreporting what?
21:16:41gevaertsOr "214215321132"
21:16:56gevaertsSometimes even no text at all
21:16:57gevaertsWell, those won't go away I think :)
21:17:04copperthere's probably one of mine in there somewhere
21:17:29copperwhich I submitted before realizing I could just update my theme to update the description
21:17:46gevaertsThe thing is, theme site admins really can only handle copyright issues and the like, and the site isn't set up for forwarding reports to authors, so technical issues are better off on the forums or the bug tracker
21:18:30gevaertsI'm not saying that's ideal, but if nobody works on the thing, it's better for these texts to match reality
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21:47:47wodzgevaerts: I wanted to remind shyly about g#434
21:47:50fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #434 at : 3optimize WSPLL work for iriver h100 and h300 series by Dmitry Gamza
21:47:54gevaertsOh, right!
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23:46:06dunpealHi. I'm having an issue with a long playlist. Whenever I halt play, i.e. bookmark, another bookmark is created in the "Recent Bookmarks" menu, rather than the original one being updated.
23:46:25dunpealI'm guessing that has to do with the name of the album being different, even though it's the same playlist?
23:46:31dunpealIs there any way to address that?
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