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#rockbox log for 2016-05-30

00:13:57[Saint]That we got away with for so long is a testament to something.
00:14:09[Saint]I'm not sure what...but, it's something.
00:15:02[Saint]the idea that commit/discard happened to appear to work for so long without a very obvious sign seems weird to me.
00:15:11__builtinpamaury: sorry, but here:
00:15:18__builtin(pastebin is detecting it as spam)
00:15:48[Saint]y'know all you need to do then is do the "I am not a bot" thing, right?
00:16:04[Saint]And it'll preserve it knowing you're a human for that entire session.
00:16:47__builtinit's still easier to run a cat << EOF > ... than it is to enable javascript and complete the captcha
00:17:46[Saint]does this magically sort itself out if you hand edit LDOPTS manually to pass the options and singles?
00:18:10[Saint]export LDOPTS="-lm", "-ldl", "-lpthread"
00:18:16pamaury[Saint]: I am not entirely surprised: there were lots of random bugs with the driver. The cache is small and fills quickly, you can get lucky very often
00:18:35[Saint]pamaury: apparently we got lucky _always_.
00:18:43__builtinlet's see
00:18:58pamaury[Saint]: what do you mean ? I remember a number of people reporting problem with the driver
00:19:33[Saint]pamaury: my experience with it was it either worked entirely, or not at all.
00:19:41[Saint]Winner winner.
00:19:50*[Saint] 's theory was right.
00:19:54pamaury__builtin: there must be a problem with the configure script
00:19:58__builtinyeah, let's see
00:19:58[Saint]We're bouncing off modern g++
00:19:59pamauryfindsdl() more precisely
00:20:29[Saint]Holy shit, I'm quite proud of myself now. Heh.
00:20:53pamaury[Saint]: I don't understand, I am not seeing -lSDL in your LDOPTS, how can it work ?
00:21:41*__builtin added it
00:21:46pamauryah, right
00:22:43pamaury__builtin: could you edit the configure script and run it ?
00:22:57[Saint]Yes, sorry, I wasn't very specific there.
00:23:11[Saint]I'm actually kinda surprised Franklin knew what page I was on.
00:23:14pamaurymore precisely, at line 334, there is a "sdl=`findsdl $winbuild`". I would suggest to add "echo $sdl" after it
00:23:40pamauryrerun configure and pastebin the output of the configure script
00:27:09pamaury__builtin: sorry, I meant what the configure script output, not the generated Makefile
00:27:24__builtinit is the configure output (refresh) ;)
00:27:29pamauryah my bad ;)
00:27:35__builtincould it be that I don't have static SDL libs?
00:27:43pamauryhum, ok so it detects /usr/bin/sdl-config
00:28:11__builtinI see that it calls sdl-config −−static-libs
00:28:17pamauryand what is the output of /usr/bin/sdl-config −−cflags and /usr/bin/sdl-config −−static-libs
00:28:28__builtinsdl-config −−static-libs
00:28:29*pamaury starts to spot the problem
00:28:29__builtinUsage: sdl-config [−−prefix[=DIR]] [−−exec-prefix[=DIR]] [−−version] [−−cflags] [−−libs]
00:29:03__builtincould I change it to $sdl −−libs instead?
00:29:11pamauryI guess the idea of using static lib is for windows, but on linux this is a bad idea
00:29:59pamaurywell you can just as a hack
00:30:31pamaurybut I think the good thing (TM) to do, is for configure to run sdl-config −−static-libs and if it fails, fall back to /sdl-config −−clibs
00:31:20*__builtin hates writing shell scripts
00:31:53pamaury__builtin: can you try this: replace line 345 (LDOPTS="$LDOPTS `$sdl −−static-libs`") by:
00:32:53pamauryif sdl-config −−static-libs &> /dev/null ; then
00:32:53pamaury LDOPTS="$LDOPTS `$sdl −−static-libs`"
00:32:53DBUGEnqueued KICK pamaury
00:32:53pamaury echo "Your sdl-config does not know about static libs, falling back to shared lib"
00:32:53pamaury LDOPTS="$LDOPTS `$sdl −−libs`"
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00:40:20pamaury__builtin: does that work ?
00:42:34__builtinhang on
00:45:16__builtinlooks like it, from the makefile
00:45:26__builtinshould I push a patch?
00:49:03pamauryyea push it to gerrit
00:49:17fs-bluebot_3Gerrit review #1332 at : 3Fix broken simulator build with new SDL by Franklin Wei
00:51:03pamauryI am not sure the issue is really with "new SDL" though, more "broken/strange sdl-config" ? Or you know something I don't ?
00:52:15[Saint]All the hints on this I could find, and what pointed me to looking at LDOPTS in the first place, was a bunch of people bouncing off very similar issues with modern g++
00:53:01pamaurybut it has nothing to do with g++
00:53:01[Saint]There's a chance it was only anecdotally related and I just fluked it, though.
00:53:19CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
00:53:19*pamaury fires a google search
00:54:44__builtinok, amended the message
00:55:12pamaury__builtin: can you give me the output of pkg-config −−libs −−static sdl
00:55:20pamauryand also the putput of which sdl-config
00:55:34*pamaury has a bad feeling about this
00:55:35__builtin% pkg-config −−libs −−static sdl
00:55:37__builtin-lSDL -lpthread -lSDL -lpthread -lm -ldl -lpthread
00:55:53__builtin% which sdl-config
00:56:34*__builtin is pretty sure it's because of a change in SDL
00:56:50__builtinit worked before on this machine, I just reconfigured it today and it stopped working
00:57:53pamaurycould this be an arch problem ?
00:58:24*__builtin digs through the archlinux package logs
00:59:53*pamaury has a look at how lib is packaged on debian (where it works)
01:01:11__builtinhmm, it says that the last update was in 2014
01:01:44pamauryok, so on debian, based on this:
01:01:44pamauryI conclude that −−static-libs only exists if static builds are enabled, so potentially it could fail, depending on your config/what the maintainer does
01:03:22pamaurymaybe the arch maintainer simply decided not to enable static builds
01:09:47pamaury__builtin: I made a small mistake in the script
01:09:56pamauryit should be >/dev/null 2>&1
01:10:05pamaurybecause &> is not supported by all (ba)sh
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01:14:39*[Saint] is having some real issues understanding how the hell we managed to break natural sort order in playlists.
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01:42:11__builtinpamaury: got it
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02:15:22__builtincan anyone test G#1323 on hardware for me?
02:15:23fs-bluebot_3Gerrit review #1323 at : 3One-Time Password client (HOTP and TOTP) by Franklin Wei
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02:54:04spacecaseCan I made the year of albums display in the database view?
02:54:46[Saint]There is a database view specifically for this.
02:54:51[Saint]So, yes, yes you can.
02:55:18[Saint]also - see the tagnavi format detailed in the manual and the wiki.
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03:33:48spacecasesorry, one more question. where's the setting to control the padding on text lines. found it once, can't find it again
03:47:27[Saint]that only exists on touchscreen devices, do you have one?
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10:04:49armpitladyhi peeps
10:05:21armpitladyI wanted to plant rockbox on the RUIZU X06. Can you help me with that?
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10:39:03duo8not practical afaik
10:39:11duo8oh wait X06
10:40:02duo8wait no same chip as x02
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13:29:32Horrorcatpamaury: no issues so far with the SD patch
13:29:45pamauryHorrorcat: ok thanks :)
13:30:36Horrorcatpamaury: I am working on a simple patch (still pending testing on the actual hardware because I have no cable) for the keymap of the zenxfi3.
13:30:52pamauryanyone has a thought on g#1332 ? I think it is safe to commit
13:30:53fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #1332 at : 3Fix broken simulator build with weird sdl-config by Franklin Wei
13:31:39*pamaury needs to talk to [7]
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15:58:55smellypukehi men, about that ruzio x06
15:59:06smellypukeRUIZU X06
15:59:22smellypukecan I patch it with rockbox?
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16:06:34pamaurysmellypuke: we need to know the hardware
16:06:53pamaurybut currently it is not supported, someone would need do to a port (if it is possible)
16:08:49edhelaspamaury: hey o/
16:09:03pamauryedhelas: hi
16:09:28edhelasthanks for the awesome work that you are doing on Rockbox :)
16:10:48pamaurythank you :) which device are you using ?
16:11:15edhelasan iPod mini before, now an iPod Photo, with a 32Gb sdcard in it
16:11:54pamauryI guess you should thank the one who did that port then, I am not responsible for this one ;)
16:11:58smellypukehey pamaury
16:12:29smellypukethanks for the amazing super mega beautiful work on rockbox you are so amazing
16:12:44smellypukei'm using ruziou x06
16:12:58edhelaspamaury: also I found this ticket a couple of days ago, is it still something planned on the mid-long term ?
16:15:03pamaurysmellypuke: as I said, if you cannot at least provide us with some information on the hardware, this is not going anywhere, you are the one with the device... One such way is to disassemble the player
16:15:41smellypukei am a nigerian prince, and i want to donate 100,000 dollars to this project over western union, but i'm not sure yet. i just need to know if ruiozuizoiu x86 will be possible to use with rockbox. ONE LOVE.
16:16:22pamauryedhelas: yes that's something I would like to eventually commit (although I have been saying that for several years now :-/). The major blocker is 1) is needs some cleanup 2) there is only one usb driver supported, thus it excluded a HUGE number of devices. Some target cannot support this anyway, but many could, just the code is not written
16:17:52edhelaswhat kind of devices would support this piece of code in the end ? is there something to do to adapt it to the several OS ? (especially regarding the audio part)
16:18:09pamaurysmellypuke: is that some kind of joke ?
16:18:40pamauryedhelas: you mean using this on something else than rockbox ? do you have something specific in mind ?
16:18:54edhelasI'm wondering if a linux could directly detect the device as an external USB soundcard and allow to route audio to it
16:19:49pamauryah yes that's the point, with this code the device appears as a usb soundcard, you get out of the box support on windows and linux (provided your UI/audio stack/DE supports it)
16:20:55smellypukepamaury, yes.
16:21:11edhelasdo you think that your patch is still up to date ? can I apply it in the trunk ?
16:22:25pamaurywell first I would base any work on g#1009 (that's a slightly more up to date version)
16:22:27fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #1009 at : 3Add USB Audio 1.0 support (EXPERIMENTAL) by Amaury Pouly
16:22:40smellypukei looked it up, and the developer doesn't provide us with any details of what's inside. there are no teardown pages, or videos about it either
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16:23:31pamauryedhelas: I doubt it applies as is to the trunk currently, but you can wait for one hour, I can try to make it compile at least
16:24:08edhelaspamaury: yeah that would be nice, I can try a iPod Photo/4G build as well and give you feedbacks
16:24:29Horrorcatpamaury: speaking of crazy ideas, have you looked into bluetooth?
16:25:59PerRUIZUadAstrait seems it has some serious problems with finding bluetooth devices though
16:26:23PerRUIZUadAstraanyone can recommend a bluetooth mp3 player?
16:26:32pamauryHorrorcat: bluetooth: yes and no. I discussed that some time ago and there are two big obstacles:
16:26:32pamaury1) rockbox has NO support for bt at all, it would have to be done from scratch (I don't think that's a huge work, but it is definitely some work)
16:26:32pamaury2) obviously you also need to write a driver for the bluetooth chip, and there are lots of variations, some are very high level, some very low level.
16:26:32DBUGEnqueued KICK pamaury
16:26:32pamauryOn the ZEN-XFi3, I believe it would be on the easy side because the bt chip provides some high level commands
16:27:11Horrorcatinteresting. not sure what "standard" applications for bluetooth would be. headsets probably
16:27:41pamaurywell don't go crazy, most bt chip found in mp3 players only support headset profile ;)
16:28:00pamauryedhelas: ok, stay tuned for usb audio
16:30:24PerRUIZUadAstrahow about bluetooth players themselves? anyone knows any good pieces?
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16:31:20PerRUIZUadAstraruizu x06 seems to be the most popular bluetooth mp3 player on aliexpress, but its ui is horrible.
16:31:33pamaurythe only recent player I know with bluetooth is Zen X-Fi3
16:31:43pamauryalso the more expensive sony players have it I think
16:31:54PerRUIZUadAstraand the physical controls are poorly designed also
16:32:45PerRUIZUadAstrazen x-fi3... let me check it out!
16:33:08PerRUIZUadAstra200 bucks!
16:33:15PerRUIZUadAstrathat's insane!!
16:34:15pamaurywhat, I bought it for 50 a long time ago ?! But it's probably discontinued now
16:37:49pamauryOMG, the usb audio patch still works on my fuze+
16:38:01pamauryI did not expect that
16:39:02pamauryit is not perfect though, sometimes the player seems to loose sync and the audio is garbage
16:40:09edhelaspamaury: awesome <3
16:40:43pamauryedhelas: so feel free to have a try at it, it should be supported on the ipodvideo. To enable it, first go to System > Debug > USB audio. It should show "USB audio enabled". Then plug usb.
16:40:52pamaurybut don't expect any miracle
16:41:22edhelasyeah, I'll give a try, thanks, does it disable other features ? like usb transfer ?
16:42:24pamaurywell, on some hardware you cannot enable usb transfer and audio at the same time. But in any case if you do not enable audio, transfer will work
16:42:35pamauryalso note that you need to enable everytime you want to plug usb
16:42:53gevaertsYou wan to run a rockbox simulator on the player's filesystem while playing back through the player? :)
16:43:14edhelasok :)
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16:53:49SaratogaI tried out the new USB driver on the zip (at least I think it was enabled)
16:54:34SaratogaCouldn't reproduce an old crash that's completely reproducible on the old driver so that's nice
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16:55:17SaratogaSeems to generally work but didn't test too much yet
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17:08:40prof_wolfffSaratoga: it is enabled in Sansa Zip Clip (sansazipclip.h), to enable it on other sansas you must define USBOTG_DESINGWARE in the target configuration file, applying the same changes as in sansazipclip.h
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17:38:16Horrorcatpamaury: I have a patch for the zenxfi3 keymap.
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17:38:32HorrorcatI would put it on gerrit, but I fail to sign in.
17:39:46pamauryHorrorcat: what does it do ? I put the contexts menu on the menu button and the quickscreen in the WPS on the menu button ?
17:39:54pamaurybut why this { ACTION_STD_MENU, BUTTON_POWER|BUTTON_REL, BUTTON_POWER}, ?
17:40:20HorrorcatI was missing a way to quickly return to the main menu
17:41:02HorrorcatI just now saw though that POWER is already used for something
17:41:32HorrorcatI saw that power (along with menu) was used in the quickscreen for cancelling, so I thought it might make sense
17:41:54pamauryyeah but the power button is not really nicely access on this device
17:42:14HorrorcatI have no strong feelings on the power keybinding, I was just following the pattern from quickscreen.
17:42:17pamauryalso what do you think of exchange the two: short press for context menu/quickscreen and long press to return to menu ?
17:42:23Horrorcatmakes totally sense to me
17:42:33Horrorcatmight be better
17:42:51pamauryyeah I think so, let me have a go at it, I'll push it to gerrit so you can test
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17:43:57*pamaury spots a few other weird things, probably some copy and paste
17:44:04pamaurythis is stupid: { ACTION_STD_KEYLOCK, BUTTON_POWER, BUTTON_NONE },
17:44:11pamaurythe target has a physical lock
17:44:21*pamaury maps power to cancel
17:44:41pamaurydoes that make sense ?
17:44:58pamauryof maybe going back to menu ?
17:45:20Horrorcatnot sure, I wouldn’t use it for either probably
17:45:54pamauryyeah, maybe it's better not to map it
17:46:16Horrorcatunmap it from the quickscreen then too?
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17:48:50Horrorcatyeah, I vote for leaving POWER unmapped as far as possible. I often hit it accidentally when un-locking
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17:50:21pamauryHorrorcat: there is already some code to temporarily disable the power button when unholding
17:50:27Horrorcatah clever
17:50:41pamauryprecisely because of this. When you unhold, the power button is disable for 1sec
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17:53:38Horrorcathm, according to keymap-zenxfi3.c, POWER and long-POWER should be usable for switching USB HID modes. it doesn’t seem to do anything though; it doesn’t even turn on the screen backlight
17:53:50Horrorcat(when connected to USB while running)
17:53:56fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #1335 at : 3zenxfi3: update keymap by Amaury Pouly
17:54:10pamauryah, let me check
17:54:36pamauryyou are right, does seem to do anything
17:54:48pamaurynot sure why
17:56:47Horrorcatkeymap works as expected
17:57:25pamauryok, so let's commit g#1335 ?
17:57:27fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #1335 at : 3zenxfi3: update keymap by Amaury Pouly
17:57:36HorrorcatI approve :-)
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17:59:34pamauryI will probably commit g#1333 and its dependencies soon enough. It's mostly an internal change but it might also slightly improve touch button responsiveness on the zenxfi3
17:59:35fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #1333 at : 3zenxfi3: rewrite mpr121 driver by Amaury Pouly
18:00:36Horrorcatdoes it require more testing?
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18:01:17pamaurywell more testing is always better so if you don't mind compiling it and using the device with it that would be nice
18:01:42Horrorcatif it’s fine to use it with the updated keymap, sure
18:02:13pamauryyeah those are independent changes, you can cherry pick those on top of master
18:02:37pamaury(be sure to cherry pick all dependencies, so g#1313 at least)
18:02:39fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #1313 at : 3imx233: rewrite i2c driver by Amaury Pouly
18:03:37Horrorcatdoes 'git pull git:// refs/changes/33/1333/3' on a fresh branch off master get me all I need?
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18:05:39Horrorcatdoesn’t appearantly
18:06:59pamauryI would recommend cherry-picking g#1313 first and then g#1333
18:07:01fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #1313 at : 3imx233: rewrite i2c driver by Amaury Pouly
18:07:01fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #1333 at : 3zenxfi3: rewrite mpr121 driver by Amaury Pouly
18:07:16Horrorcatpamaury: did that, and 1334, and the keymap thing. built, zipped, unzipped, works for now
18:07:31Horrorcatgoing to test it more extensively by actually using the device tomorrow :-)
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18:55:31Horrorcatpamaury: any idea on the POWER button binding issue in the USB HID screen? also, has anyone ever used that presentation mode? it emits 'b' and 'q' keystrokes here, the former (un-)blanks the screen and the latter does nothing in atril (PDF viewer) in presenter mode
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19:30:25edhelaspamaury, here ?
19:30:35edhelasI'm trying to cherry pick your patch
19:30:59edhelasgot this
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19:34:39pamauryedhelas: here, which target and which patch ?
19:34:50Horrorcat(I presume the USB audio thing)
19:34:59edhelas on the target 20
19:35:05edhelasso iPod Color/Photo
19:35:29pamauryah, I need to look into this
19:35:46edhelascan I help ?
19:36:52armpitladyanyone knows cheap, high quality, flat response, reference earphones?
19:37:06armpitladyon aliexpress
19:37:11edhelasarmpitlady, intra auricular ?
19:37:31edhelasoh on aliexpress, don't know
19:37:51armpitladywell, tell me what you know
19:38:15pamauryedhelas: in firmware/target/usbstack/usb_audio.c, you can try to change #define BUFFER_SIZE 1023 to something smaller, like 300
19:41:03edhelasarmpitlady, the CX-200 - CX-300 of Senheiser are quite affordable and great
19:42:08armpitladyhi fi earphones do not fit 3.5mm jacks and require additional amplification due to higher resistance?
19:42:14armpitladythat was a question :D
19:43:09edhelaspamaury, looks better :D
19:43:42pamauryedhelas: I cannot garantee it will work, making the buffer small might result in underflow
19:43:58armpitladyedhelas price is great, but they are not advertised as flat response. need to look them up on laboratory
19:46:13armpitladyedhelas oh boy, this looks worse than russian roads
19:47:10edhelaspamaury, I've juste replaced rockbox.ipod, is it ok ?
19:47:26pamauryedhelas: yes
19:47:35edhelasok I see the option in the debug menu
19:47:49edhelasI've enabled it, plug the iPod but the computer doesn't seems to recognize it
19:48:10edhelas(as an audio card)
19:48:11armpitladyedhelas compare to these:
19:48:41edhelaspamaury, oh actually my desktop computer does
19:49:06armpitladyi had these etymotics for reference. it's not for everyone. it's only for sound engineers because the sound will always be very cold, exact, but cold.
19:49:42armpitladyit's because originally all music is made with lowered bass because all the headphones, and earphones have that part boosted.
19:51:00armpitladyi gave my etymotics to a girl, and told her to give them back tomorrow, but she lives in another country, and she didn't even tell. true story. I'm so pissed. she just went off with my earphones. what an asshole.
19:51:02edhelasmhh weird pulseaudio doesn't see it
19:52:20pamauryedhelas: usually pulseaudio will happily detect it
19:52:56edhelasI just need to enable and plug the ipod ?
19:53:22pamauryyou can double-check it is enabled by running lsusb -v -d <vid>:<pid>
19:53:33pamauryyou can find the <vid>:<pid> by running lsusb
19:53:42pamauryyou should see things related to audio
19:59:13edhelasok, will check that in a moment, thx ;)
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20:15:37Horrorcatah pamaury, I figured out why presentation HID mode emits such weird characters here: qwert[yz] ≠ neo. why were the scancodes n and p chosen for prev/next? don’t all presenters support arrow left/right?
20:15:48Horrorcat(which would most likely be more portable, as I know of no keyboard layout which remaps those)
20:15:58Horrorcatthat said, is there someone else to ping with respect to that?
20:16:33pamauryHorrorcat: I would need to check but I am pretty sure it does not (or should not) emit regular querty codes
20:16:55HorrorcatI guess as a HID it emits scancodes.
20:16:57pamauryit emits special HID code that are related to presentation, but I can check that (later)
20:17:26Horrorcathmm.... wonder why those seem to end up at 'n' and 'p' scancodes here, which get mapped to 'b' and 'q' keycodes by the neo layout.
20:23:53pamauryHorrorcat: oh my bad, those are indeed mapped to n and p
20:24:05pamaurythe mapping is in apps/usb_keymap.c
20:24:30pamauryI admit this is odd
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20:25:34Horrorcat(usb_keymaps.c I presume)
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20:26:44Horrorcatpamaury: I think arrow-down/up or arrow-left/right make more sense
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20:26:53HorrorcatI have to check though, at least pdf-presenter-console interprets -left different than -up
20:29:01Horrorcatpamaury: yes, for pdfpc left and right would probably be the sanest. ideally with the option to support up and down separately on targets which have enough buttons
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20:36:09edhelaspamaury, for the moment I only have the HID and mass storage, but I'll investigate
20:44:14edhelasoh got something
20:44:28edhelasdetected by Pulseaudio, but not sound yet
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21:37:03lebelliumpamaury: Samsung 32GB class 10. 519MB video. Fuze+ write 6,1MB/s read 10,6MB/s. Samsung card reader write 8,6MB/s read 21,6MB/s
21:37:33pamaurywith patch ?
21:38:07pamauryhuh, that's seems wrong, can you go to System > debug > show hw info > sdmmc
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21:39:48lebelliumbus: 4 sbc: 1 hs: enabled
21:40:22pamauryI can't believe it reads at only 11MB/s over usb, that's puzzling
21:40:56lebelliumI can check with OF if you want
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21:41:25pamauryyeah good idea
21:54:02edhelaspamaury, yeah I hear that the audio chipset is enabled, but nothing comes out
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21:54:50pamauryedhelas: ok, well, there could many things going wrong, that would require extensive debugging
21:57:09Horrorcatpamaury: what do you think about the presenter mode thing? shall I prepare patches for both the usb_keymap and for the zenxfi3 target?
21:57:34pamauryedhelas: tonight I am too tired/busy but maybe we can have a look tomorrow or on wednesday ?
21:57:42edhelasyeah sure
21:57:48edhelasI'm not in a hurry :)
21:58:01pamauryHorrorcat: what do you think about that is specific to the zenxfi3 ? and what kind of changing for usb ?
21:58:30*pamaury has done a little test: usb_storage + ramdisk = ~16MB/s read speed
21:58:34pamaurynot very impressive...
21:58:43edhelaspamaury, by the way, pulseaudio see two output, one analog stereo and one digital, I should take the digital one ?
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21:59:01pamauryedhelas: two audio output for rockbox ?
21:59:27pamauryI am pretty sure it only reports one, and that's an headphone one
21:59:29Horrorcatregarding usb, I would map arrow-left/arrow-right to PREV/NEXT and add actions for arrow-up/arrow-down (which have, at least in pdfpc, a different meaning)
21:59:36Horrorcatand for the xfi, I would add mappings for the latter
21:59:47lebelliumpamaury: strange. Write 3,9MB/s read 3,4MB/s ... and strangely when I disconnect the USB cable it gets to the rockbox bootloader mode instead of OF home screen.
22:00:09pamaurylebellium: is that the OF read/write speed ?
22:00:16pamauryit sucks
22:00:43pamauryso I am afraid the conclusion is that on your card, the usb speed is mostly limited by the usb stack with the patch
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22:03:04Horrorcatanother (alternative) thought for the zenxfi3: use VOL_UP / VOL_DOWN instead of UP/DOWN buttons reduce the chance of accidentally triggering them
22:05:00pamauryisn't the point of usb hid to make it easy to use it ?
22:05:32Horrorcatnot sure what you’re referring to; I’m worried that the touchy buttons are easy to hit accidentally, which could be unfortunate during a presentation
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22:19:04edhelaspamaury, but I'm already impressed by the job done :)
22:20:07Horrorcatgonna leave for today, 73
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22:20:32[Saint]K, 2746
22:20:53[Saint]That's Numberwang!
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22:34:49*pamaury thinks rockbox could have a use for higher speed tick tasks or faster thread switch. 100HZ is just slow
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23:12:17[Saint]pamaury: I agree, but for pretty shit reasons.
23:12:21[Saint]Regardless, I agree.
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23:17:31[Saint]pamaury: what did you end up having to do to satisfy regarding building an updated mipsel toolchain?
23:19:14pamaury[Saint]: building a new mipsel toolchain is easy, building the old one is tricky (I am not even trying)
23:19:48[Saint]I have done mipsel-elf binutils s/2.17/2.22/g and mipsel-elf gcc 2/4.1.2/4.6.3/g, and added MAKEINFO=missing to the CFLAGS
23:19:51[Saint]But, no dice.
23:20:21pamauryyou have to add -fgnu89-inline (whatever it is called)
23:20:52[Saint]Also done.
23:21:11[Saint]That's added to satisfy armeabi.
23:21:40[Saint]I'll keep digging, seems like it's my own damn fault for running bleeding-edge....everything.
23:22:03pamaury[Saint]: pamaury/595b92a63f1e79f435c9ebad85c01054">
23:22:09pamaurythat's what I used
23:23:36[Saint]Yeah, hmmm. Interesting.
23:23:51[Saint]My arrangement is ever so slightly different, but the end result is the same.
23:24:10[Saint]Well...I guess not, as your apparently compiles a viable toolchain. :p
23:24:54pamauryBut I want to talk to TheSeven, I don't know how he managed to build the ypr0 toolchai, I am stuck the problem with make, I am wondering if he installed his own version of make
23:25:35[Saint]Oh my God...yes. Uuuugh.
23:25:44[Saint]I hate that Goddamn toolchain.
23:26:11[Saint]As always, if you need them, I can give you precompiled 64bit ypr* toolchain binaries.
23:26:46[Saint]Or do you already have them and you're wanting to get the toolchain actually building again?
23:26:50pamauryI would prefer to be able to build them
23:27:02[Saint]Oh, sure, in the interim I mean.
23:27:15pamauryin the long run that's the only viable option, and I am so dman close
23:27:53[Saint]IIUC, [7] cut out the CLooG dependency from it entirely, also.
23:28:06[Saint]Because after make, the next version dependency madness is CLooG.
23:28:20[Saint]I really want his diff for this too.
23:28:35 Quit Link7 (Remote host closed the connection)
23:28:42[Saint]But he's been AWOL for some time. Understandable. He's a busy man.
23:29:19pamauryI know, I disabled cloog and ppl
23:29:24pamaurythat's trivial
23:29:29*[Saint] nods
23:29:31pamaurybut then I have a problem with make
23:30:14pamauryif I tell ct-ng to build his own make, it builds 3.81 and that fails, and if I use my make 4.0, it also fails for another reason
23:31:13[Saint]yeah, sounds like you're at where I am approximately.
23:31:22[Saint]bouncing off the same issue.
23:33:18pamauryin theory you can compile your own make
23:33:41pamauryct-ng discourages make 3.82, apparently it is broken
23:34:03pamaurythere are versions between 3.82 and 4.00 but they are not even listed on the official ftp of make...
23:38:39pamaury[Saint]: why were you thinking about increasing HZ ?
23:44:07[Saint]So that skin actions get a chance to better match the refresh rate of the LCD for high-speed theme tasks like animation and EQ meters, et al.
23:44:19 Quit Boltermor (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
23:44:52[Saint]for the interim.
23:45:19[Saint](filesize 113MB)
23:45:35[Saint]I can package _just_ ypr* for you if you would like.
23:46:05[Saint]Or just the bins (sans docs and build leftovers, etc.), or any combination thereof.
23:47:01*[Saint] forgot he had a ftp user account with freemyipod
23:47:23pamaurythanks got it
23:47:44pamaurynot sure if I will use it though, only in case of despair ;)
23:48:30 Quit girafe (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
23:48:48[Saint]Well, I figure you can use it to add ypr* to your build-client broadcast line until you or I beat this thing, or [7] pops his nose in.
23:49:00pamauryyeah make sense. Really HZ=100 is slow, that means a thread could wait more than 10ms before being run, that's a _lot_ and it makes thread less useful imo. I don't know if there is a good reason for it, I guess it makes sense on slow cpus
23:49:27*[Saint] nods
23:49:35*gevaerts tries to launch a slogan for slow CPUs
23:49:38gevaertsHertz Hurts!
23:49:52[Saint]Yeah, my reasoning behind it is pretty case-specific.
23:50:38gevaerts[Saint]: don't you want HZ to be a multiple of the lcd refresh rather than it being high?
23:51:48[Saint]gevaerts: preferably, I would guess. Yes.
23:52:15*pamaury has a try at building ypr0 with make 3.82
23:52:41*[Saint] takes another stab at mipsel-elf
23:52:46gevaertsOf course that would make HZ LCD dependant, which would mean it could be different *everywhere*
23:52:54gevaertsWhich might not be ideal
23:54:14pamaury[Saint]: are you trying to build the *old* mips toolchain ?
23:56:16[Saint]Holy crap.
23:56:22[Saint]So. Many. Warns...
23:56:41[Saint]There's more damn warns than there is genuine compilation output.

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