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#rockbox log for 2006-09-08

00:01:14Arathismirak_ ?
00:01:56 Part Paul_The_Nerd
00:02:15Bagderit has a 200MHz ARM9
00:02:28Bagderdual-core even
00:03:25Bagderand it uses mplayer for video, wikipedia says
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00:04:13Bagderso no, that code would help us much
00:04:24Bagderwon't
00:04:28Bagderaaag
00:04:32Bagdercan't type
00:04:35*Bagder runs away
00:04:37Angyrmanh10@ bagder: little question !!!
00:04:48Bagdershoot
00:05:34Angyrmanh10WPs skins are now published on misticriver but i expect links are working only short period (like for my wps) could you mage a H10 section in the WPS Gallery
00:05:43Angyrmanh10manage
00:05:54Bagderthat's a wiki
00:06:05Bagderanyone can join in and do it
00:06:09Angyrmanh10<−−- again a stipid question of me ???
00:06:20Angyrmanh10<−− again asked a stupid question
00:06:39Angyrmanh10<−− again banging my head against... anything around ^^
00:07:57amiconnhrrrmm...
00:08:34amiconnThe greyscale palette in fire.c is rather strange, and the colour version is completely off
00:08:49rboxerta for chat Paul - off for a hack..
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00:09:21amiconnThe color fire in cvs is in fact an avalanche mapped at inverse scale
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00:09:37amiconnThat's why it starts out with white background (which should actually be black)
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00:38:08maddog011one question, when you change the mi4 file on your player, will the data on player get erased as well?
00:38:21Bagdernope
00:38:25maddog011thank you
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00:40:48mirak_Arathis: using zoom is bad according to mplayer people
00:40:51*preglow fondles sshfs
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00:48:28Arathismirak_: but scale=x:y should be better I think
00:49:02mirak_scale=-2:128
00:49:17Arathiswhy -2 ?
00:49:20mirak_or scale=160:-2
00:49:32mirak_because that's dumb command line
00:49:40mirak_and written in the man
00:49:42mirak_don't ask me
00:49:43mirak_lol
00:50:11mirak_in fact if you want it sized to multiples of 16 that shold be -10
00:50:21mirak_look at scale section in the man
00:50:26Arathisas far as I know -2 there only cuts of 2 lines that normaly are somehow crappy in selfcoded vidoes
00:50:41mirak_that's not the number of line
00:50:48mirak_that a kind of command
00:50:53Arathisscale with fix x and y works for me
00:52:38Arathisbut you don't know what it actuly does?
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01:00:38stripwaxhi all. anyone else seen that turning the hold switch ON for an ipod 5g also turns the backlight on (possibly permanently)?
01:01:20maddog011wait, who said the up key doesn't work on the H10?
01:01:41Bagdermaddog011: it didn't back when people said it didn't work
01:01:47maddog011oh you fixed it?
01:01:50maddog011Great job !!!
01:01:58BagderBarry is the man
01:02:02maddog011I know
01:02:05maddog011Barrywardell
01:02:07Arathisand I said the video from TrueJournal on YouTube was made before it worked
01:02:20maddog011That guy is a genius
01:03:06stripwaxanyone or no-one (is it just my player that does this?)
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01:07:37Arathisstripwax: with rockbox?
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01:09:15Arathisstripwax: in rockbox you can set backlight when hold in the options. perhaps thats the problem
01:09:20stripwaxArathis - yes.. sorry, I guess I thought that went without saying. Recent daily and bleeding edge builds. My girlfriend is running an older build and doesn't seem to have the problem. For what it's worth, we're both running "official" (i.e. not "unofficial") builds, and I'm running the original "Black Glass" theme
01:10:00stripwaxArathis - oh, seriously? I must look like an idiot now. No wonder my battery life sucks with my ipod in my pocket..
01:10:19*stripwax laughs
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01:15:26mirak_the idct http://rafb.net/paste/results/luAkDE96.html
01:15:35mirak_which doesn't work
01:17:39stripwaxArathis - you are a genius. I didn't even know there was such a setting, perhaps it picked up a random default when I upgraded? But happy as Larry now
01:19:48Arathisstripwax: glad I could help.
01:19:58stripwax:)
01:20:59Arathisbtw: I'm running rockbox for only three days now. I just looked up many menus ^^
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01:21:27stripwaxArathis - heh, I've been using it for almost 2 yrs ;-)
01:21:35Arathis:D
01:24:38stripwaxcheers −− gnight
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02:15:24EV|Toshibaim back
02:15:25EV|Toshiba:)
02:16:11EV|ToshibaBtw, on this 30gb Ipod color/photo I have, on the orginal apple software, every couple weeks I get the sad ipod icon. And when I get to the apple store (about 30 mi away) the fucker decidedes to work. Any ideas on how to fix this?
02:16:17EV|ToshibaBecause I cant get to rockbox when it does it
02:17:15Davide-NYCQuestion about future encoding formats. Will RB keep a 'less is more' attitude about what formats are supported for real-time encoding (on SW targets) or will there be more? Assumptions and predictions are also welcome.
02:17:25EV|Toshiba...?
02:18:48coobEV|Toshiba: sounds like a problem with the ram, i suggest writing a memtest for rb/linux :)
02:19:15EV|Toshibayou wanna know something funny coob? I just dropped the ipod 4 feet onto tile, and now it works fine.
02:19:17EV|ToshibaI dont get it
02:22:13Davide-NYCAnybody use an IDE for hacking rockbox? If so which one?
02:22:15coobif there's a problem with the hd it's usually the folder/exclamation mark icon
02:22:20coobwith the url for apple support
02:22:24EV|Toshibait works everytime after I hit it on a desk or whatever... heh.
02:22:36coobsad ipod icon is much worse
02:22:36EV|Toshibacoob, its the ipod w/ a sad face and the aple url.
02:22:39Davide-NYCnot for long it won't
02:22:47EV|Toshibaapple wont take it
02:22:51coobmeans the equivalent of the ipod's POST has failed
02:22:55EV|Toshibashieat
02:22:59EV|ToshibaAny fix's?
02:23:09Davide-NYCbuy an iriver?
02:23:13EV|Toshiba:)
02:23:19coobflog it on ebay? :)
02:23:26Davide-NYC^^ good idea
02:23:33EV|Toshiba;)
02:23:49EV|ToshibaI gotta remeber to go to compusa tomrrow, and get that 250gb internal hdd for $49..
02:24:21Davide-NYCmidkay: Mmmm poo-pooed my cherry patch: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5882.msg49352#msg49352
02:24:34Davide-NYCEV|Toshiba: Linky please>
02:24:41EV|ToshibaIt's in their ad.
02:24:45EV|ToshibaI'll see if they got it on their site.,
02:25:50EV|ToshibaDavide-NYC, http://www.compusa.com/adproducts/product_info.asp?pfp=ADPRODUCTS&N=500458+200112&Ne=200000&Ns=display%5Fprice%7C0&product_code=338173&Pn=Caviar_SE16_250GB_Hard_Drive
02:25:56midkayDavide-NYC: poor guy :)
02:26:30Davide-NYCyou mean me right?
02:28:03Davide-NYCEV|Toshiba: TY, really good timing.
02:28:09EV|ToshibaWhy?
02:28:13EV|ToshibaHuh? im confused
02:28:27Davide-NYCi need a drive this weekend. This is agood deal.
02:28:32Davide-NYCthanks
02:28:51EV|Toshibalol
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02:29:00EV|ToshibaI'll have my dad probley go pick one up for me tomrrow
02:29:09EV|ToshibaI'm going to be at school for 16 huors tomrrow,.
02:30:26EV|Toshiba7am till abuot midnight.
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04:57:27*jhMikeS is this thing on?
04:57:54jhMikeS*thump* *thump *thump*
04:59:55EV|Serveryo
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05:17:37pirokoIs it a known issue with the 4G ipod where it reboots itself seemingly randomly, even when not playing music?
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05:19:15BHSPitLappyit's a known issue that batteries die
05:19:35pirokoHaha. It's plugged in ;)
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05:38:04webguest93I'd like to contribute to the wiki regarding my experiences with a iPod 3G. Is there something special I need to do?
05:39:45webguest93I'd like to contribute to the wiki regarding my experiences with a iPod 3G. Is there something special I need to do?
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05:40:26JenniferAlicartyI'd like to contribute to the wiki regarding my experiences with a iPod 3G. Is there something special I need to do?
05:43:29pirokoCome back at a time earlier in the day when all the helping people aren't dead. :) I mean that in all kindness. I am sorry but I am only a lowly user and I don't know the answer to your question :(
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05:48:04pirokoOdd, now that I am playing music on my iPod (a SID file), it hasn't crashed once...
05:48:20pirokoI had it plugged into my laptop through firewire before. Maybe that caused it...
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06:48:51EbErTwould it be possible or practical to have a plugin that recognizes itunes playlists?
06:49:41EbErTbecause i like using itunes to set up playlists, but that's about it
06:57:29BHSPitLappyyou'd have to have a plugin that parsed the itunesDB completely
06:57:43BHSPitLappyand no rockbox dev on earth would be willing to do that, I think
06:59:28EbErTwell, if that's the case
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07:01:38BHSPitLappy:P
07:01:50BHSPitLappyit defies anyone's idea of what rockbox is there for
07:02:03EbErTno, that would be a dumb idea if that much is involved
07:02:25BHSPitLappyof course, something for this might already exist, and I could be sounding like an idiot denouncing the idea
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07:12:06_jhMikeS_How are you supposed to get your main nick back when the server thinks it's still in use?
07:12:19_jhMikeS_They're registered and linked and all
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07:14:12jhMikeSgot it...thaks
07:15:08jhMikeSI need to automate that in my client
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08:00:40theli_uamorning
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08:03:26Zagorhi
08:03:52scorcheyou are up early/late
08:04:14Zagornot really. it's 08:00 here.
08:04:26scorcheoh?
08:04:56scorchemy basis for swedish time is based on when people talk in here, so that is understandable =)
08:05:02Zagorhehe
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08:20:48theli_uaits 09 am here :)
08:27:51theli_uahm .. anyone with Ipod Video here who can test somethign for me?
08:27:59theli_uaactually test this http://theli.ho.com.ua/screen.png
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08:48:17ender`what's that - tuxracer? :)
08:48:34amiconnmorning
08:49:01*perplexity groans
08:49:17amiconnBagder: Something is very wrong with the new build server, looks like missing crosscompilers (!?!)
08:49:42perplexityyeah.. mea culpa..
08:50:11perplexitylooks like the build script does not use the shells path, and I did not feed explicit paths into the script..
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08:55:43perplexityOn the upside, in the process of reconfiguring it I've sped it up 30%
08:56:30amiconnperplexity: Problem fixed?
08:57:26perplexitywell, not really.. it all gets very ugly and resulted in something (probably me) blowing away the who config. So I need Bagder to change the incoming port number and re-upload acbuild.pl again..
08:57:44perplexityI need a decent smack in the head actually..
08:58:03Davide-NYCMmmm: sorry about that wretched hack job. :-P
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08:58:07perplexityIn the mean time, I've disabled it so it won't try to build anything..
08:58:11scorcheperplexity: i believe Zagor is around
08:58:39MmmmDavide-NYC: No problem mate...you've got to start somewhere eh?
08:59:00MmmmYou are me a year ago :D
08:59:03Davide-NYChow 'bout I read a book first huh?
08:59:12Davide-NYC:-P
08:59:22Mmmmgood idea
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09:00:31Mmmmdo you want to try and fix it up or shall I just put your icons in and commit?
09:01:05Mmmmgo on...give it a go..
09:03:26Mmmmthe only things you need to change are the gui_statusbar_icon_recording_info() function in statusbar.c and the icons. So start with clean CVS and only change those bits
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09:06:26Mmmmby the way, Davide, have you tried my countdown timer yet?
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09:07:30theli_uaender`, that was arctic adventure
09:07:50theli_uaender`, actually its ColecoVision emulator
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09:23:18JdGordondoes anyone have any idea how long it would take to convert 6000 lines of c into psuedo code?
09:25:25scorchewell, assuming an average of 15 seconds a line for someone with a good understanding of it...about 25 hours non-stop
09:27:04scorcheok...maybe 30 seconds...50 hours ;)
09:31:37JdGordonhmm... sounds good... even if it is boring work :D
09:32:09scorchewould be best to split up between people
09:32:24scorchebut the biggest issue is that the code constantly changes...
09:34:18Davide-NYCMmmm: Sorry I had to tend to something important.
09:34:49Mmmmok
09:34:53Davide-NYCI don;t think I'm anywhere near ready to make intelligent changes just yet, so if you want to put it the changes please do.
09:34:57JdGordonscorche: i ask because i was just offered to do that at an hourly rate (unknown), so soudns like i might have some spare poket money :D
09:35:28Davide-NYCI have not tried your countdown timer yet. I don;t really need it, but if you want me to do some testing I will no problem.
09:35:32MmmmDavide-NYC: it doesnt need to be intelligent, just guess and i'll fix up any small madnesses you have
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09:35:58Davide-NYCHey, if that's the case then sure! I'll stab at tomorrow and post in the forum
09:36:05Davide-NYC3:40am here, I gotta sleep
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09:36:13Mmmmg'night...
09:36:19Davide-NYClater, and thanks
09:36:20Mmmmor morning...
09:36:26Davide-NYC:-P
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09:44:43MmmmWOw...that's some score on the latest CVS build errors table....228! cor....
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09:53:14MmmmIs there any way to differentiate between the plain recorder and the v2 and FM recorders in the code using #ifs? (I have a patch that breaks the v2 but not the normal recorder (region FLASH is full errors))
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09:54:38*jhMikeS want to know if it's ok to complain
09:55:25jhMikeS:)
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09:56:53LinusNno, complaining is not accepted here ;-)
09:56:59jhMikeSahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
09:57:21LinusNthen we'll send you to the eternal "you have posted to the wrong forum" loop
09:57:57jhMikeSIt's about my rb stuff...always wanting to do just "that" and then ending up doing "that and that and that and that".
09:58:52jhMikeSGuess it's a personal problem :)
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09:59:03LinusNthat's not complaining, that's whining ;-)
09:59:35LinusNwho's responsible for the fnarfbargle.com build server?
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10:00:17*jhMikeS is a whiner when he's revamping the recording system so much!
10:00:32LinusN:-)
10:01:39*jhMikeS thinks maybe LinusN wanted to keep him away from other stuff or keep him from annoying everyone so much! :)
10:02:07LinusNwhat took you so long to figure that out? :-)
10:02:15perplexityLinusN: fnarfbargle is mine unfortunately..
10:02:56jhMikeSit only took long to talk about it! hehe...was on to you from the start!
10:03:06LinusNperplexity: you must have the path to the compilers set up correctly
10:03:41perplexitySo it would seem.. I need Bagder to re-upload the acbuild.pl script to the machine and reconfigure the incoming port number, so I've disabled the server until we get it sorted
10:04:29jhMikeSIs dircache gonna keep disk hits away if just scanning directories for creating unique file name?
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10:09:16LinusNjhMikeS: i didn't understand the question
10:09:18jhMikeShrrrmph...maybe one of those stupid Q's? I'm changing things so the disk doesn't have to spin up even when new files are started but the dirs still have to be scanned for creating the filenames...not with datetime
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10:23:03Mordov|hardlywoHELP :) I'm having problems finding the right MK-6006 GAH I get one woith ata 5 and 8mb chache and one with ata 6 and 2mb chache i have a iriver...
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10:26:58Mordov|hardlywohttp://www2.computeruniverse.net/products/e90158724.asp
10:27:02Mordov|hardlywohttp://www.esao.de/product_info.php?products_id=114074&lid=gzh
10:27:07Mordov|hardlywosame name different spec
10:27:09Mordov|hardlywoARGH
10:27:18theli_ualinuxstb, have a minute?
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10:30:53jhMikeShmm...the conversations are slow today
10:32:47Mordov|hardlywocan someone tell me if the 8mb mk6006gah will work on my iriver?
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10:37:15BabbelaarHey I was wondering if i could get some help?
10:37:18jhMikeS<Mordov|hardlywo> I can't...if that helps.
10:37:33Mordov|hardlywohehe :)
10:38:40Mordov|hardlywoseems like the mk6006gah comes in different versions.... does anyone know if all iriver players uses 2mb buffer?
10:38:59bluebrotherBabbelaar: if you don't ask nobody can help you ... so just ask
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10:39:17Babbelaaro d/l the daily build and that other thing but i don't have a .rockbox directory file?
10:39:38bluebrotheryou need to unzip the daily build to your player.
10:39:48bluebrotherwhat OS you're using?
10:40:05BabbelaarOSX
10:40:11BabbelaarOS meaning?
10:40:16bluebrotherI guess it hides the folder.
10:40:17*jhMikeS wonders what happened to LinusN...maybe said "to hell with him!" ;-)
10:40:22bluebrotherOperating System.
10:40:26Babbelaarfor Mac?
10:40:48bluebrotherOSX is BSD based, so I guess it does like linux −− hiding all files starting with a dot.
10:41:02BabbelaarCause i boot up rockbox and it says "no .rockbox directory"
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10:41:14bluebrotherah, ok. That's a bit different.
10:41:22Babbelaarwhat do i then lol?
10:41:27bluebrothercan you locate the folder in the zip?
10:41:37Babbelaarwhich folder?
10:41:39bluebrotheron linux you can use "ls -a" on the command line
10:41:42bluebrotherthe .rockbox folder.
10:42:01Babbelaarlast time all i got was that rockbox.iriver file
10:42:04Babbelaarwhen it was unzipped
10:42:06linuxstbBabbelaar: If you're happy with the command-line, just download the .zip and then type "unzip rockbox.zip -d /Volumes/IPOD/" - replacing "IPOD" with the name of your ipod. Look in the /Volumes directory to see what it's called.
10:42:22linuxstbAh sorry, I assumed you had an ipod....
10:42:30Babbelaarnup im using an Iriver
10:42:36linuxstbBut it's the same command - replace "IPOD" with the name of your iriver.
10:43:25Babbelaari don't get it sorry
10:43:27linuxstbI'm sure there must be a GUI way to do it (e.g. telling Finder to show hidden files), but all I know is the command-line.
10:43:36*jhMikeS needs to make that create .rockbox on your device make option yet...
10:43:46theli_ualinuxstb, can you please test something on Video for me?
10:44:02linuxstbSure.
10:44:05LinusNjhMikeS: i'm a little busy right now, so i can't pay full attention to irc
10:44:16jhMikeSyes you can find hidden files in finder
10:44:46jhMikeSLinusN: Just messin' with ya... B-)
10:45:46*jhMikeS doesn't want to be in trouble...(:(
10:46:22*LinusN 's wife is having her gall bladder removed as we speak
10:46:50jhMikeSLinusN: Omg...ok...didn't know that. I'm sorry she's not well.
10:46:58LinusNhow could you know
10:47:13LinusNi'm still at work, there's nothing i can do to help anyway
10:47:37jhMikeSLinusN: I know what that kind of situation is like very well.
10:55:22Babbelaarha i d/l rockbox
10:55:26Babbelaarnow what? =\
10:56:14jhMikeSsoftly stoke the bits
10:56:20jhMikeSstroke
10:56:46Babbelaarlol
10:57:19Babbelaarhow do i d/l them themes
10:57:21jhMikeSunzip to your player's hd so .rockbox is in the root...it's a hd player right?
10:57:31BabbelaarIt is in the root
10:57:50BabbelaarI took the zipped file to my windows computer and everything worked swet
10:57:55Babbelaaryeh its an HD player
10:59:25jhMikeSFrom the theme page? There's plenty of resources for that http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery
10:59:42mirakhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/luAkDE96.html this is idct.c for coldfire. Can anyone test that ?
10:59:50bluebrotherBabbelaar: you can also try http://www.rockbox-themes.org
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11:00:55mirakthe first dot of the 8x8 blocks seems to have a problem exept on the I frame decoding. any ideas what's wrong apreciated. Other than this the I frames seems to decode well. a pause can let you see that
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11:01:18davehi, can anyone spare 2/3 mins to help a h10 rockbox newbie?
11:01:49jhMikeSmirak: not in my head...but I can try it out on x5
11:02:01Babbelaarty :) so much
11:02:13mirakI really did what I could. I ported the C algorithm to octave/matlab, and manage to have the same output result with my code.
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11:02:28jhMikeSmirak: Why the dots?
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11:02:53mirakjhMikes yes it should work as it, just CPU_COLDFIRE macro is needed.
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11:04:53daveok, i have a 20gb iriver, i have downloaded the latest build, copied over the .rockbox folder, the rockbox.h10 file to my player.. rebooted and nothing.. goes straight into the existing f/w can anyone help me?
11:04:59jhMikeSmirak: for this test or for later?
11:05:13mirakjhMikes that's the question. I don't know why this happens. by the way if I use idct_row in asm and idct_col in C and vice versa it works as expected. however when I enable the two asm functions it creates this error on the upper left pixel for the P frame. And this error propagate along the other P frames.
11:05:51jhMikeSbuilding...
11:05:59mirakjhMikeS that macro is enabled if you have a coldfire CPU. so I think you don't have to modify anything
11:06:04markunMordov|hardlywo: it should only have 2MB http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/english/spec/hdd/mk6006.htm
11:06:36jhMikeSyes...x5 is coldfire
11:06:39dan_adave: Have you installed the bootloader? I don't have an H10 myself, but that sounds like it could be the problem
11:07:17davedan_a thanks for that, i have just noticed the bootloader instruction.. i am sych a newbie.. please excuse me! i will try that and hopefully it will work
11:07:19davethanks :)
11:07:51dan_adave: No problem - we're all newbies sometime at something!
11:07:56BabbelaarIs there anywhere it tells you how to put a theme into your iriver?
11:08:29jhMikeSmirak: I thought you meant it needed the macro put in it...;P
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11:10:09*jhMikeS 's debian is starting to show filedates in the future
11:10:11daveexcellent, its working... this is going to take some getting used to! how far from the completetion is the h10 port? i am using daily build so assume its still in development?
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11:11:31C_Ddoes anyone have a iriver h3xx and notice the metronome plugin makes a distorted noise every now and the
11:11:32C_Dn
11:11:58jhMikeStesting...
11:12:23mirakso ?
11:13:21jhMikeSI see the dot appear, grow, then a normal image at the what I believe is the intra frame
11:14:11jhMikeSIt's all near where there's motion
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11:14:26MmmmC_D: I have an H1xx and it is merrily ticking away at the moment with no distortion
11:14:44C_Dmy makes some distorted ticks every now and then :/
11:15:03Mmmmooh...no, it just made a weird beeping noise
11:15:31jhMikeSMust not be decoding correctly in the area uncovered by the moved blocks...my guess
11:16:15jhMikeSthe more a block moves the bigger the discolored area
11:17:28dan_adave: The H10 port has only had sound for about a week. barrywardell and lorijho are making big steps forward pretty much every day.
11:18:09MmmmC_D: yep, definitely something up there....if you put it all the way up to 400 bpm it beeps fairly often and it even loses the beat every now and then...
11:19:06C_Dyeah
11:19:48MmmmC_D: my god, that was a relief when I switched it off...feel like my head is throbbing....
11:20:28*theli_ua wonders do we have officiall rockbox speaker or something ......
11:21:43C_Dhaha
11:22:13davewell kudos to barry & lorijho their work is greatly appreciated :) i have a problem tho i think, it now starts and I am able to browse the menus, but i cant seem to see any music? on the first menu i have playlists, and text but the rockbox option seems to have an X next to it? maybe i am missing something!
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11:25:52mirakjhMikes yes
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11:26:06markundave: if you turn on your h10 rockbox should be in the file browser
11:26:43jhMikeSI hoped my observations helped...I can't really understand the code so quickly so I can't say if I see any errors...
11:27:18mirakbut you see like me the I frame decoded well
11:27:29jhMikeSindeed
11:28:12markunmirak: probably an accuracy problem then, don't you think?
11:28:22mirakI also agree theer is a problem when the blocks are moving
11:29:02jhMikeSIt's in the direction of the motion...like it's not being filled at the oposite side
11:29:32mirakmarkun the strange thing is that only the upper right pixel have an issue
11:29:52mirakthen the issue spreads
11:30:17mirakabout an accuracy problem there is different case
11:30:39jhMikeSI'm not sure about that
11:31:09mirakin the code, they add 2048 and 65356. I came to the conclusion that this was equivalent to add 0,5 to the final matrix. They do that early to have less additions to do
11:31:10davehmm... strange.. i try to click on Xrockbox and it just says "loading"
11:31:42daveand nothing happens? but i can click on playlists and text and it goes into that folder? I must be doing something wrong?!
11:31:45mirakbut in the C code even when I remove this two values, there is not as much degradation.
11:32:02jhMikeSthere's more spread of the error when moving left or up
11:32:10mirakwhat happens is that the image fades to green taints
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11:32:54jhMikeSIt looks like Chistmas lights :) multicolor
11:33:04mirakI also tryed to correct this issue in the asm code by adding the right value. but there is still that upper left dot issue
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11:36:00amiconnmirak: Sorry that I didn't look at the idct stuff yet. I want to see mpegplayer speedups too, but then I also want to do so many other things...
11:37:31mirakabout a precision issue, I processed the C algorithm into matlab, and also tryed with the matrix multiplication and also with cosin like the theoric formula. I manage to make them have almost the same output. The difference is really minimal and I don't think this could lead to this degradations.
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11:39:20mirakamiconn well I am a bit frustrated to be so close and not see what's wrong. once this idct is done I will do other parts in asm. maybe I should start to work on other parts, waiting for a solution for idct
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11:44:50linuxstbmirak: Are you seeing much of a speed-up with your ASM code yet? (ignoring the bugs)
11:53:52amiconnmirak: What was the speedup when putting the idct block in iram? I'd like to know the speedup (vs. cvs) with idct block in iram, with asm idct, and with asm idct + iram
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12:02:49miraklinuxstb yes it's faster. But the most improvement is speed is by putting the DCTblock into iram. I get 4-5 fps in plus
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12:05:04mirakidct in asm gives something like 0,7 fps in plus. I think with full idct in asm it can go faster, because it reduce the need to do 15 moves * 3 to store the coefs, and also 5 moves to init the MACSR
12:05:21mirakplus the function calls and the for loops
12:06:22mirakthe optimal speedup would be to put all the mpeg2 struct into iram. but one array is a bit to big
12:06:39preglowdon't expect too much from an asm idct
12:06:43mirak16k to compute the dequantisation
12:06:51preglowthe motion estimation step will be more imortant on coldfire
12:06:53preglowthanks to the slow ram
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12:08:23mirakit would be nice to have some kind of dynamic iram. where we could reuse it instead of fixing it. maybe giving some temp data array the adress it could do the trick if they are not called at the same time
12:10:00mirakthe same adress
12:10:03mirakI meant
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12:13:09preglowwell
12:13:31preglowif we're gonna use audio codecs together with video, we have no spare iram
12:13:54preglowbut i guess there could be a way
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12:14:29preglowwe'd need a new set of I*_ATTR defines that put all iram that is unused after a frame next to each other
12:14:46preglowsome iram data is just used during processing
12:14:48preglownot after
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12:18:06linuxstbHow about some kind of "alloca" function - so a function can temporarily claim some IRAM which must be freed before the function exits?
12:19:30mirakdoes the rockbox kernel really needs that much iram ?
12:19:58Bagderthe kernel speed is slightly more important than the video player...
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12:20:19mirakbagder video or audio
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12:20:39BagderI don't think we lack iram for audio very much, do we?
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12:21:35mirakwhat I mean is that the loss of speed for the kernel would probably not be as noticeable as the gain of speed for audio or video codecs
12:21:41mirakor even plugins
12:21:50mirakthat's a question
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12:22:24mirakwhen you see that putting the dtblock in iram can make you gain 5 fps that makes wonder
12:22:37BagderI'm saying that the functions that run 99% of the time are the important ones
12:22:54Bagderi.e kernel, lcd and the central drivers
12:23:09Bagderincluding audio codecs
12:23:18mirakI am asking, I don't know kernel
12:23:41Bagderwell, you can easily measure by moving out things from iram and compare
12:23:56Bagderthat's actually the only sensible way to tell anyway
12:24:14preglowlinuxstb: sure, yeah, and there _is_ some potential for iram reuse
12:24:28preglowlinuxstb: like for example the pcm output buffer
12:25:07amiconnlinuxstb: Afaik we can use alloca() in rockbox, as it just allocates on stack. And the stack is in IRAM for the main thread...
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12:25:52preglownot everything runs in the main thread
12:26:12linuxstbSo one option might be to increase the stack size for codecs and plugins, and take that away from the standard IRAM assignment?
12:26:21linuxstbAnd then make the codecs use the stack more...
12:26:51linuxstbBut that could get nasty if not done carefully...
12:26:53pregloweh
12:26:57preglowno, don't do that
12:27:01amiconnThe codecs run in the codec thread, and the codec stack is also in iram
12:27:02preglowthat for one wouldn't let us reuse iram
12:27:16preglownot easily, at least
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12:41:32theli_ualinuxstb, i got response from ColEm author
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12:46:36Bagderperplexity: I've copied a new acbuild.pl script to your server
12:46:48perplexityta.. I'll make sure the path is correct this time..
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12:48:01perplexityrighto.. ready to go..
12:48:46Bagderok
12:55:15theli_linuxstb, unfortunately we won't have colecovision emulator :(
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13:13:31webguest57What happend to RockBox? Hardly a "core" commit in the last few days.
13:14:57dan_aAt a guess, real life has intervened.
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13:20:21lorijhoHi guys
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13:41:42aliaskDoes rockbox edit the playcount ID3v2 tag when music is played?
13:42:16Bagdernope
13:42:23aliaskHmm
13:42:40aliaskID3v2 is so much more complicated than v1.
13:43:06Bagderyes
13:43:33Bagderbut on the other hand, v1 was too simple
13:43:38*aliask is glad he got ID3v1 writing done before tackling v2.
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13:52:06preglowmandatory apev2!
13:52:46Bagderhaha
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14:04:47modahey guys, can anyone tell me, is rockbox on the ipod the same as rockbox on the h3xx?
14:04:54Bagderyes it is
14:05:03modalike, does it behave the same etc?
14:05:12Bagderyes, as far as possible
14:05:33modamk, so i should have no problem going from a rbed h340 to an rbed ipod?
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14:06:54aliaskOnce you get used to the different buttons, it's pretty painless.
14:06:54modaspeaking of which, is there an ipod equivalent to misticriver?
14:06:58linuxstbmoda: Maybe an important difference for you is that battery life on the ipods in Rockbox is less than the official firmware. On the H340, I think most people get longer life in Rockbox now compared to the original firmware.
14:06:58modayea
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14:07:08aliaskmoda: The whole internet?
14:07:10linuxstbmoda: I guess ilounge.com is the equivalent...
14:07:43modalinuxstb: i get ~5hours anyway on either rb or iriver firmware, so it doesnt really matter :p *kicks battery*
14:07:55modailounge doesnt seem to be very busy tho
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14:08:54linuxstbmoda: Huh? Have you visited their forums? Almost a million posts...
14:09:11linuxstbOver 100,000 members...
14:09:47linuxstbBut generally people there seem to love itunes and their ipods, and hate Rockbox...
14:09:53modayea, maybe its just the times im visiting, but whenever i go there, there is only like 10 people or less veiwing each forum
14:10:00modawhy do people hate rockbox?
14:10:05Bagder?
14:10:26Bagderwhich people?
14:10:42moda <linuxstb> But generally people there seem to love itunes and their ipods, and hate Rockbox...
14:10:45linuxstbThe usual cosmetic complaints mostly and also simply the fact that they like their ipods the way they are.
14:10:56modaah
14:11:14BagderApple zealots prefer Apple
14:11:47linuxstbBut I can understand Rockbox not being very useful to people who choose to use Itunes - especially if they buy music and videos from there.
14:12:14modahmph. people buy music now?
14:12:21moda;)
14:13:03linuxstbMaybe saying that they hate Rockbox is a bit strong - there just seems to be no interest in it.
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14:13:27Bagderyeah, and lots of people saying they don't use it since it looks ugly ;-)
14:13:30modathe only complaint I have with rockbox is the menus arent exactly intuitive, and could do with some "prettying up"
14:13:49modaRB looks good on wps, just not everywhere else :p
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14:15:14linuxstbI agree Rockbox could benefit from a little prettying up - just simple things like a better-looking status bar, a larger default font, a minimal use of colour and a nice default WPS would drastically change the first impression people get when trying Rockbox.
14:15:26Bagderyeps
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14:16:03modafor each build for each platform there needs to be a differant default theme and wps
14:16:39Mordov|hardlywowhish: to get the sleep timer option a bit closer to the start of the menue :) I use it several times a day and I have to go all the way to system to find it :)
14:17:36Bagdereveryone wants their favourite options moved
14:17:50linuxstbIs there anything else similar to the sleep timer, which is more an "action" rather than "setting"?
14:17:55aliaskI have to agree though, sleep timer is especially poorly placed.
14:18:05linuxstbBut sleep-timer isn't really an option.
14:18:07aliaskRTC alarm?
14:18:10*Bagder never used the sleep timer
14:18:11Mordov|hardlywobut all the way into system option I feel is verry unintuitive :)
14:18:44aliaskMordov|hardlywo: If you feel like compiling at all, I wrote a patch which chanes the menu structure - sleep timer is nearer to the top.
14:19:10Mordov|hardlywo:) I have forgotten how to do it :)
14:19:13*linuxstb never used the sleep timer either
14:19:32Mordov|hardlyworadio and sleep timer I feel is actions that have no natural place in the menu
14:19:34linuxstbIs the sleep timer something you set once, and then it's forgotten next time you start Rockbox?
14:19:47Mordov|hardlywono you have to sett it everytime you use it
14:19:57linuxstbYes, that's what I mean.
14:20:10linuxstbSo I agree it shouldn't be inside a settings menu.
14:20:57*preglow uses the sleep timer from time to time
14:21:21Mordov|hardlywoa patch witch made it posible to change buttons and menue would be nice :)
14:21:29theli_uai didn't know we have such timer :/
14:22:20modaoh choosing a new mp3 player is pissing me off :|
14:22:48preglowget a h1x0 and be done with it
14:22:56preglowbest thing to hit the earth since the plow
14:22:58modaI have a h340 and it sucks
14:23:06preglowthat's why i said h1x0 and not h3x0
14:23:16linuxstbWhat sucks about the h340?
14:23:26modaid rather have colour and have a brick then be stuck in grayscale land :p
14:23:50modabecause its freaking huge, the battery sucks (its on its 3rd battery) and i think my hdd is going to die anytime soon (3rd hdd too)
14:24:15Mordov|hardlywothe battry on my h-120 is still doing fine :) 2,5 yeares now
14:24:18modaand the headphone jack is fully fucked, (thorpy says)
14:24:25aliaskMy H340 wore a hole in my pants pocket recently - I attribute this to its epic fatness.
14:24:27preglowbattery sucks?
14:24:28preglowit's great
14:24:34preglowi get over twenty hours on a chrage
14:24:38aliaskSame
14:24:38modai get 5 hours if im lucky
14:24:47linuxstbI think you must just be unlucky - I can't recall anyone else complaining about battery or disk problems with the irivers...
14:25:05linuxstbOr maybe I just don't read misticriver enough...
14:25:18aliaskBattery problems - yes. I've had to replace mine, and I've heard a few people experience similar problems
14:25:20Mordov|hardlywoI have a disk problem :) (started when I lost my player from a bigh hight ;)
14:25:36modao rly? this is my 3rd replacement, once due to battery and headphone jack, once due to battery alone and once due to a fully fucked hdd, and yes you dont read misticriver enough :p
14:25:45modaim just getting sick of my h340
14:26:01linuxstbThe iaudio X5 seems well-liked...
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14:26:13moda10fps video and unintuitive input control and brickness ftw :|
14:26:38modalong fingernails + h340 controls = fail
14:27:25amiconnThe h300 buttons are mushy, but I still prefer them over the ipod's annoying wheel thing
14:27:39Mordov|hardlywolooks like you need a iPod, those things nevver fail and are so userfriendly ;)
14:28:09*theli_ua wonders if anyone here knows some platform to emulate on rockbox which have about 4 colors small screen resolution... doesn't use much cpu power, have about 4 buttons and have GPL compatible emulator written in plain C and with portability in mind
14:28:17modaso what other mp3 players are there than the ipod, iriver cbfed releasing anything new, and creative (never ever - friend has had 7 creatives, all dead :|)
14:28:47Mordov|hardlywosandisk
14:28:48linuxstbmoda: As I just mentioned, the iaudio X5
14:29:17moda15fps is totally better, and the sheer rareness of them in australia :|
14:29:48aliaskYou'd get much better framerates in rockbox for video I think.
14:29:50Bagderthe higher fps rate is basically due to the smaller screen
14:29:55amiconnmoda: If you want video so much, get a pmp instead
14:29:59*aliask mumbles something about no sound.
14:30:05linuxstbOr the ipod and the Apple firmware and itunes...
14:30:12amiconnVideo on a dap is not much more than a gimmick imho
14:30:19modaamiconn: nah, i want something mp3 player sized with video :p
14:30:42Bagderthat's probably ipod video then
14:30:48moda:(
14:31:02linuxstbOr a gigabeat with Rockbox...
14:31:05modatoshiba gigabeat s or zen vision m (its a creative gah)
14:31:16Bagderrockbox is far away from the creatives
14:31:48aliaskPlus the Vision M has this stupid scrollpad which is really hard to use (IMO)
14:32:04modathe thing that annoys me about the gigabeat is that its Microsoft centred, so it relies on wma and wmv and wma-drm
14:32:08modai hate drm
14:32:12modadrm is stupid
14:32:19aliaskYou don't have to use it.
14:32:31amiconnIt can be fun to code video support, and it's even possible to watch movies on a screen as small as the archos recorder/ondio lcd, but in order to enjoy video, it needs larger displays than those found in DAPs
14:32:33modabut its taking over manufactors focus's
14:32:38Mordov|hardlywoif you are goin got use rockbox you don't have to think abaout the codec...
14:32:48amiconnThat explicitly includes the ipod video, imho
14:33:45modaan ipod + 4.3"+ 16:9 screen would be sufficient :p
14:33:56modabut pmps are muchu expensive :|
14:34:27modaand nonpocketable
14:34:46linuxstbmoda: I'm sure Apple will oblige in the future.
14:35:01modaim sure they will
14:35:04amiconnArchos 604 has a 4.3" 16:9 lcd
14:35:14amiconnBut AV700 is better - 7" lcd
14:35:15aliaskAs much as I hate rumours, I think a new iPod is overdue.
14:35:28linuxstbYou could always attach the video-out on an ipod to an external LCD screen....
14:35:46modathe iaudio a2 looks alright, but its fucking $700 :|
14:36:06modaaliask: sept 12 :)
14:36:08modamaybe
14:36:21aliaskIs there some press conference or something?
14:36:46modasomething, keynote speech in the US, and an apple venue in paris
14:37:03aliaskSounds about right.
14:37:06linuxstbYes, some kind of movie-themed event I think. Rumours are that Apple will start selling full-length movies via ITMS for $14.99.
14:37:08modabloody archos players are $900+ wtfh
14:37:29linuxstbPlus an upgrade to the video ipods.
14:37:35aliaskThat would be a good time to launch the real "Video iPod" then.
14:37:58modathere were some rumours that they couldnt get the touchscreen thing working properly etc :|
14:38:01linuxstbI'm interested to know if it will be another Broadcom/PP device, or if it will be the first using the new Samsung chip.
14:38:31modaif they release a new player, how soon would it be able to run rb? depending on what chip it uses?
14:38:35aliaskIt's been long enough since they annouced the partnership to have worked out a device using a samsung chip.
14:38:53Bagdermoda: it is impossible to tell
14:39:04modaIf they released something with a slightly bigger screen, increased battery life and 40gb single/80gb dual, id be content with that
14:39:06modatrue Bagder
14:39:51linuxstbmoda: That's even assuming anyone tries... I think the IPL people would probably be interested in it as well though.
14:41:02modaid much rather use rb than ipl
14:41:22mirakamiconn yes a gimmick and challenge
14:41:47linuxstbmoda: If IPL started working on the new ipods, Rockbox would be able to steal their code and probably be working within a few days...
14:41:47mirakin fact doom is probably the most extreme case of gimickness
14:42:07linuxstbmoda: Similarly the other way around...
14:42:15moda?
14:42:37Bagderhave the ipl guys done anything on the h10?
14:42:45modaas long as it plays mp3, flac and ogg, im happy :)
14:42:49modaand looks even remotely good
14:43:19preglowBagder: it's not an ipod, is it
14:43:25linuxstbBagder: Nothing at all AFAIK. When the idea of porting IPL to other DAPs has been mentioned, I've only ever seen people say "IPL is only for ipods". But maybe that's just the users talking...
14:43:34Bagderok
14:44:15preglowipodlinux seems pretty dead to me
14:44:29preglowthe only svn commits i see are graphics related
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14:44:58aliaskI find it really hard to find anything much about that project - it's really de-centralised.
14:45:11*linuxstb was about to say the same as aliask...
14:45:21preglowone of their biggest problems
14:45:28preglowit doesn't really feel like they have a community going
14:45:54linuxstbThey seem to be outnumbered by about 10,000 users for every developer...
14:46:00tucozhi, i wonder if anyone here knows how to sync the clock in vmware. I only suspend it when I close the wmware-player, so the clock is not set (like it is when you boot linux)
14:46:03preglowan area in which we are doing really well, if you ask me
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14:47:34tucozto frase that question differently, is there some script or command to run in linux to sync the clock (to what the hardware clock says)?
14:48:01preglowehm, can the clock not be synced to the hw clock?
14:48:03Bagderhwclock
14:48:33Bagderbut that time problem is something vmware-related and not really linux-related
14:48:45tucozpreglow: the xubuntu vmware clock says 4:21 AM
14:49:06tucozBagder: thanks.
14:49:20Bagder"rdate ntp.lth.se"
14:49:24Bagder:-)
14:50:00tucozrdate ntp.lth.se
14:50:00linuxstbI use ntpdate - any difference to rdate?
14:50:02tucozsorry
14:50:28preglowntp is a bit newer and better, afaik
14:50:35Bagderyes
14:51:02Bagderrdate is however dead simple and available on all unixes
14:51:59modasigh
14:52:04Slasheriideally there should be ntp server/daemon running on the machine to keep the clock accurate
14:52:19Slasheribetter than 1ms accuracy with ntp over internet connection is possible
14:52:56Bagderyeah, the rfc mentions nanosecond accuracy iirc
14:53:05Bagderin theory
14:53:55Bagderpersonally I'm fine within being +- few seconds
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14:54:27preglowwhatever ubuntu does for me is more than probably just fine
14:55:21amiconntucoz: You need to run the vmware toolbox (requires X). It has an option to sync the clock with the host
14:55:59tucozamiconn: ok.
14:58:34tucozamiconn. that option was set. but the clock isn't synced
14:59:15modashould i install macosx on my pc?
14:59:38modahrm
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15:02:30markunmoda: btw the Gigabeat S is not likely to get rockbox support soon. We are working on the F (and X)
15:02:55linuxstbmarkun: What's the status?
15:03:06modayea
15:03:38markunlinuxstb: we are more or less waiting for vadim's mmu work before we can finish the bootloader and play with interrupts
15:05:25markunI've also got rid of the warnings in the bootloader build, but introduced a few new ones :)
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15:06:00markunlinuxstb: did you take a look at the patch to move the ipod photo to target tree?
15:06:37linuxstbNo. Do you have a link?
15:07:16linuxstbmarkun: It's OK, I've found it - #5890
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15:18:59theli_ualinuxstb, btw, so whats with zxbox?
15:19:22preglowdid lear mention whether he tried out gcc 4.1?
15:20:09daurnimatorand there they saw a rock
15:20:12daurnimatorit wasn't a rock
15:20:16daurnimatorit was a rock lobster!
15:20:22daurnimatorRock lobster!
15:20:29daurnimatorRocK LobSTer!
15:20:42preglowyes
15:21:03daurnimatorrock looooooooooooooooooooobbster!
15:21:09daurnimatorhe was in a jam
15:21:16daurnimatorhe was in a giant cluam!
15:22:14scorcheHERE COMES A BIKINI WHALE!!!
15:22:42daurnimatorbaken potatoes, baken in the sun
15:22:59Bagderdid this turn into #weirdo ?
15:23:04daurnimatorchased by a catfish
15:23:04scorcheno
15:23:11dan_a#B-52s, I think...
15:23:15scorchejust #B52sFanclub
15:23:19daurnimator:P
15:23:57BagderI'll join #dontknowwhatB52isanddontcare
15:24:03scorche=O
15:24:12scorche80s new wave band
15:24:25Bagderhey, "dontcare"
15:24:25daurnimatorYOU DON"T KNOW THE B52s????
15:24:31Mordov|hardlywonot exactly new wave
15:24:34daurnimator:P
15:24:43scorcheyeah....i am a bit miffed about the dont care part
15:25:15scorchewhat kind of music *do* you listen to?
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15:26:07scorcheMordov|hardlywo: wikipedia defines them as new wave as well
15:29:00moda[23:19] <theli_ua> linuxstb, btw, so whats with zxbox? <−−−− wtf is it?
15:29:15scorchezx spectrum emulator
15:29:30theli_uamoda, http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5400
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15:30:12Siimorshi there
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15:30:41dan_aHi
15:31:01SiimorsI know this probably isnt the place for my questions, but I can't any info in google
15:31:18Siimorshas anyone used Mediacoder software?
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15:33:52tucozSiimors: not that i have used Mediacoder software, but what is the question?
15:33:57Siimorsa sec
15:34:16tucozso that someone might be able to answer that
15:34:57Siimorstucoz: the question is
15:35:42barrywardellwell, iriver are sending me back my unfixed H10...
15:36:05SiimorsI have an ipod, and I want to convert all my ape>flac library to apple lossless and aac lc, I don't want to use free aac encoders but rather prefer itunes encoder, I have the Itunesencode.exe program which allows to convert flac from others programs, like foobar, which doesn't work for me as it should
15:36:10barrywardellshipped today by ups
15:36:11scorchebarrywardell: oh?...i hadnt heard the latest news on it...why is it unfixed?
15:36:21barrywardellvoided warranty
15:36:33scorchewhat did they say?
15:36:38barrywardellthey wanted the charge as much to fix it as a new one costs
15:36:57SiimorsI read theres a itunesencode support in mediacoder, I can find the settings for the codec, but whenever I try to browse the path for itunesencode.exe it never saves the settings, also I can't choose them in codec list when encoding
15:37:21dan_abarrywardell: What was wrong with it? A dead HDD?
15:37:21tucozSiimors: i heard the encoder from ahead is really good
15:37:27barrywardellyeah, dead hdd
15:37:44Siimorstucoz: yeah, I have it too, but I heard that itunes is better
15:37:49barrywardellso now i have 1 and a half h10s :)
15:37:51scorchewhat did they say as a reason for the voided warranty?
15:37:53Siimorswhen dealing with AAC LC
15:37:55dan_aWhat sort of drives does it take?
15:38:02barrywardelli'm willing to donate the broken one to rockbox
15:38:12barrywardellhitachi 1.8" zif-connector
15:38:21tucozok
15:38:46barrywardellhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH10HardwareComponents#Seagate_ST1_5_6Gb_Hitachi_HTC426
15:38:56tucozSiimors: have you read this page? http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/MediaCoder_HOWTOs
15:39:48tucozor their wiki in general: http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
15:40:26linuxstbbarrywardell: I guess that's different to the Elio's hard drive? It's another Hitachi Travelstar, but the DK14FA-20
15:40:27Siimorstucoz: yes, but for some reason the Itunesencode tab doesn't show up in the list
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15:40:50amiconnlinuxstb: 'FA' means ZIF connector iirc
15:41:14tucozthey have an official support forum as well
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15:41:42Siimorstucoz: no info on my problem, I tried several different versions, can't find the itunesencode tab in any of them
15:42:19barrywardelllinuxstb: looks like that's a 'legacy' model
15:42:19scorcheSiimors: then why dont you ask about it in the forum yourself?
15:42:26daurn|afkfunky little shack
15:42:30daurn|afkfunky little shack, yeah!
15:42:49daurn|afkeverybodys movin, everybodys grovvin baby
15:42:57tucozeeeww. b52's. yuck
15:42:59scorchedaurn|afk: too mainstream and overplayed..
15:43:04Siimorsscorche: I could, but I decided to ask here, because the answer could take days, maybe you have an alternative for massive FLAC > AAC encoding?
15:43:05linuxstbbarrywardell: The connector looks like this: http://www.backoffice.be/picts/I246999.jpg
15:43:11daurn|afkstill a great tune ;)
15:44:23tucozSiimors. maybe you should give the ahead encoder a shot. According to the hydrogenaudio, it produces excellent quality
15:44:35barrywardellok, no that's different. mine looks like this: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/c4k60_slim/c4k60_slim_eis.htm
15:44:49Siimorstucoz: looks like it is my only option
15:44:50scorcheSiimors: if you insist on itunes encoder, you can use dbpoweramp
15:44:59barrywardellit's kinda hard to make out, but the connector is kinda like the ones used for LCDs
15:45:38linuxstbbarrywardell: I see - yes, definitely different.
15:45:56barrywardelli think you could build an ide adapter if you had the right connector for the zif end
15:46:48linuxstbIn any case, it's probably most useful for a dev who doesn't already have a portalplayer device.
15:47:54barrywardell"CE = CE interface connector (ZIF type)"
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15:48:25amiconnah
15:49:34barrywardellanyway, if anyone is interested, it's up for the taking when i get it
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16:01:05mirakif I want to profit of coldfire 5206e builds, do I need to rebuild gcc ?
16:01:15mirakor is that a configure parameter ?
16:01:24Bagderjust rerun Rockbox's configure
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16:43:09webguest14hey
16:43:10webguest14can someone give me a hand
16:43:19webguest14I installed rockbox, its great
16:43:40webguest14can someone guide me how to use the ipod with my computer again and / or use the apple firmware
16:44:06linuxstbwebguest14: Start here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ
16:45:04webguest14many thanks linuxstb
16:45:12webguest14was looking at the wrong faq
16:47:09webguest14do I have to use the Apple firmware to be able to use the ipod as a disc
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16:50:47nudelyn2webguest14: when you plug the USB cable in, unless you hold a button so it just charges, then rockbox reboots into apple's disk-mode firmware.
16:52:11webguest14hmm it doesn't seem to work that way for me, I have to do it manually
16:52:19webguest14I am using 3G though off firewire
16:52:53nudelyn2I don't know much about RB on a 3G ipod, sorry
16:53:06webguest14no probs :-)
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16:56:34linuxstbwebguest14: The ipod FAQ was written with the 4G and later ipods in mind - so some of it may be wrong for the 3G.
16:57:03linuxstbBut yes, as you've discovered you have to manually enter disk mode on the 3G ipods (and any ipod if you're using firewire - only USB is detected).
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17:26:30ArathisI noticed WPSs with backdrops often don't delet these when switching back to another WPS without backdrop. is it possible to do that automatic? an option like "backdrop=false" or so in the config of the WPSs without backdrops which would do that would be great. deleting them manualy is quite disturbing though
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17:32:10MadcowHi I cannot search in .flac files on the X5. Is this a know problem???
17:34:48linuxstbMadcow: It means your FLAC files don't have seektables. Did you encode using dbpoweramp?
17:35:45linuxstbYou can add seekpoints using metaflac - something like "metaflac −−add-seekpoint=1s *.flac"
17:36:20webguest14am I correct in saying M4a files are not supported
17:36:24linuxstbSomeone is working on a patch to seek in FLAC files without seekpoints, but it will always be slower than seeking in a file with seekpoints.
17:36:25webguest14unprotected MP4 files
17:36:34linuxstbwebguest14: No.
17:37:28MadcowOkay thanks. it did indeed encode it with dbp amp.
17:38:39Arathisso no possibility to automaitcaly clear backdrops when the WPS doesn't support one?
17:38:54linuxstbArathis: Not until someone fixes the bug.
17:39:55Arathisoh, it's as bug. good to know. is there a detailed bugreport or something about it?
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18:20:07Arathislinuxstb_: really no bugreport or something for the backdrop/WPS bug?
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19:15:21Dan1hey guys
19:15:33Dan1can someone help, i think i've really screwed up my ipod
19:15:54Dan1I have screwed up the bootloader in some way
19:15:58Dan1It works but only in disk mode
19:16:07Dan1in any other mode, the folder icon pops up
19:16:26Dan1i have tried formatting it over and over in FAT32, HFS, you name it.
19:16:46Dan1Tried restoring the apple firmware, the restore go's well on my mac until it comes out of disk mode
19:17:07Dan1When I plop the ipod on my XP pc, it blue screens the whole computer
19:17:33Dan1is there an easy way to restore the bootloader?
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19:18:28Dan1damn, noone there?
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19:21:06Dan1hey merbanan can you help
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20:03:35themasterhello
20:03:45themasteris here a admin?
20:05:15themasterbecause i am the admin from rockbox-lounge.com and i gets post about the name rockbox, from a advocate
20:06:01rageaholwtf is rockbox-lounge
20:06:20scorchetype it in and find out...
20:07:33themasterthe advocate ask me in this letter why i use this name rockbox?
20:08:51themastermy problem is i must find out what we can do...
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21:01:20preglowhaha
21:01:22preglowtrademark issues...
21:03:04FebsEh?
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21:03:26Zagorpreglow: ?
21:03:45scorchepreglow: what?
21:06:01preglow20:00
21:07:06Ribsaka "an hour ago" if you're not in his timezone :>
21:07:13preglowbleh
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21:08:24Zagorpreglow: I'm contacting him to see if I can help
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21:08:59preglowi was wondering if that'd bite us
21:09:04preglowtons of people using that name around
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21:10:03preglowEV|Server: good to know
21:11:38EV|ServerSorry, its not supposed to be in this room
21:12:01EV|ServerIt does that when I wake it up...
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21:14:11*linuxstb_ wonders if he should give up on marsdaddy and start a wma port...
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21:15:27preglowlinuxstb: mail him
21:15:31preglowas in email
21:15:54linuxstbGood idea, I'll do that now.
21:16:51preglowif he doesn't answer, then just go ahead
21:17:32linuxstbI don't know his email address though... I could send him a PM on the forums, but he hasn't visited them since July.
21:18:15preglowhttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4984
21:18:17preglowrespond to that
21:18:19preglowthat'
21:18:24preglowthat'll send him a mail
21:20:28preglowat least there's a high probability of that working than the forum messager
21:20:41preglowwhich has email notification off by default, i think
21:21:22linuxstbYes, I'll do that - I notice from the history that he's still subscribed to notifications.
21:23:07preglowhaving a wma codec would be very nice
21:23:22preglowif only to avoid all the nagging
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21:28:19Steel2I have a question about the Sansa E250. Any experts present?
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21:31:18Steel2Here goes: I've tried the decipher the disassembled Sansa e200 BL code in order to find out how the LCD works (e.g. the framebuffer address) with no luck. 0x14700000 does not seem to work.
21:31:23Steel2Any ideas?
21:31:46preglowi think the sansa dudes are away right now
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21:34:19dan_aSteel2: Some of the GPIO ports seem to be related to the framebuffer, and some addresses around 0xc2000000 too.
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21:35:35Steel2Thanks, Dan. Do you know if it's like the Ipods with no real memory framebuffer?
21:38:35preglowprobably
21:40:45linuxstbFrom what I've heard, I think it is different to the ipods - i.e. there is a part of SDRAM mapped as a framebuffer. But I could be wrong about that...
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21:41:07Terinjokeshey, i'm Vo Spader, and I've been in here a few times, i
21:41:23Terinjokesi'm requesting write permissions on the wiki
21:41:33linuxstbAre you a spammer?
21:42:13Terinjokesno, uploading a skin, and pointing a few things out on InstallIpodMacOS, or whatever its name is
21:42:36TerinjokesIpodInstallationFromMacOSX
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21:42:50linuxstbYou should be good to go...
21:42:56Terinjokesok, thanks
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21:45:20Terinjokesdo i have to have a ".rockbox" in my zip if i have "wps" and "theme" in the zip's root?
21:46:19scorcheyes
21:46:35preglowlinuxstb: nicety, let's hope he responds
21:46:52scorcheoh wait...are you talking about uploading?
21:47:13Terinjokesyes
21:48:14scorchethen no
21:48:27Terinjokesok
21:48:57Terinjokeslol, going from MediaWiki to TWiki is, should i say, interesting
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21:55:44webguest70how do i use a wps
21:55:54webguest70i mean, how do i put it on the ipod
21:56:37Terinjokeswhat OS are you running?
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21:58:13Terinjokesyou should just be able to drag the folders into the ".rockbox" directory on your ipod
21:58:34webguest70xp
21:58:46webguest70so i just drag the entire folder into the rockbox dir?
21:58:52webguest70how do i use it once i do that
21:59:21Terinjokeswhat WPS are you downloading?
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22:00:19webguest70the ipod5g
22:00:35webguest70so i guess i need the patches and how to use those too
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22:02:22Terinjokesare you installing http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g#iPod_Theme_for_iPod_5G
22:02:24Terinjokes?
22:02:54webguest70yes
22:03:14webguest70no, i pod vision \
22:03:24webguest70with album art
22:04:05Terinjokesok
22:05:04Terinjokesok so you dragged "backdrops", "fonts", "themes", and "wps" to your ".rockbox" on your ipod video, right?
22:05:10webguest70yes
22:05:20webguest70i just unzipped it to .rockbox
22:05:38Terinjokesok...unplug your ipod and boot it up so your at the main screen
22:05:53webguest70what about the patches that it says that i need
22:06:38Terinjokesi don't believe those are official, so i can't support them
22:06:44webguest70ok
22:06:53webguest70so, i have the ipod open to the main screen
22:07:03Terinjokeshit the menu button
22:07:08webguest70k
22:07:16Terinjokesthen go to "browse themes"
22:07:21webguest70ok
22:07:23webguest70ahhh
22:07:26webguest70much better
22:07:30Terinjokesand select ipod vision
22:08:06webguest70ok, and to add music to ipod, do i just drag and drop music folders and files into data directory
22:08:10Terinjokesnow, rather it looks right when playing, I don't know, but i'm sure there are install instructions for the patchs
22:08:33Terinjokesyes, or, if you prefer use itunes
22:09:03Terinjokesor real player, or any of the ipod applications
22:09:10webguest70ok
22:13:48Terinjokesany other questions?
22:16:31Steel2linuxstb: According to Daniel the e200 framebuffer is mapped at 0x14700000, but it doesn't seem to work.
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22:22:28webguest70no thanks, i really appreciate
22:22:30webguest70it
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22:23:17Terinjokeshey sharpe
22:23:24sharpeHi?
22:26:31Terinjokesyou know, i envy the ipod video users
22:26:38sharpeWhy's that?
22:27:00Terinjokesthey get all the cool themes
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22:33:31sharpeWell, I put a semi-interesting use to a very old laptop of mine...
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22:36:51Terinjokesand what that?
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22:39:04sharpeTurned it into a sort of non-portable remote for media player classic...
22:39:42Terinjokesah, ok
22:39:52sharpeGood ole serial cables...
22:40:08Terinjokesi have a question, anyone know how to downgrade the ipod nano to version 1.1?
22:40:20Terinjokes1.2 broke stuff
22:41:15Terinjokesi'm here http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/ but can't find it
22:42:14Terinjokesnevermind
22:42:27sharpeGlad to help.
22:42:29Terinjokessharpe, still got those cables...lol, where did mine go?
22:42:36sharpeHmm?
22:42:45Terinjokessharpe, yep, telepathy always works ;-)
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22:46:15Terinjokescrap...apple removed the download
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22:49:45dionoeahi
22:49:49Terinjokeshi
22:51:41Terinjokesanyone have "iPod Updater 2006-03-23"??
22:52:37sharpeTerinjokes: http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=7369
22:53:00Terinjokeslol, i'm already on that forum, looking for a mac version ;-)
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22:55:22Terinjokestake you softpedia ;-)
22:56:07Terinjokeswhich means i get to stare at a progress bar again today, after frying my nano yesterday and bringing it back
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23:02:11Terinjokesi have a question, if i downgrade my nano, should i extract apple_os.bin from the installer i'm using, or the most up-to-date apple installer?
23:02:23dionoeai'm thinking about doing some kind of an animation when moving cards in solitaire (if it doesn't slow it too much). Would that be too much ?
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23:09:02Terinjokesi think it would go over the top
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23:09:41Terinjokesif it makes my music skip or drain my battery that is, overwise, i could careless
23:10:06dionoeai'll give it a try
23:10:10dionoeasee how it looks
23:12:00Terinjokescool
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23:13:52Bagderwe just got a fresh sansa hacker signed up
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23:14:08Bagderbut still no LCD :-/
23:15:21preglowwhat about the jtag board?
23:15:33preglowshouldn't that ease re a good bit?
23:15:43dionoeawhat about the patent infringement thing ? :) (or just copyright infringement?)
23:16:14Bagderpreglow: yeah, but me and Linus have had our lives too full of crap since we got it so we haven't had the time to play jtag on it
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23:16:57preglowBagder: then what about giving it to someone with the time?
23:17:16BagderI'd do that if someone volunteers
23:17:48preglowi don't even know who does sansa hacking, heh
23:17:52preglowi've got my plate full anyway
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23:21:16SoapI'm going to do some new runtime tests this weekend on my iPod 5th gen. I think I should be given a loaner. 30+ hours w/o it will make me cry.
23:21:19preglow:/
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