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#rockbox log for 2007-06-03

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00:51:28Izuilhello
00:52:24IzuilI have 2 pictures that i thought of uploading to the wiki but it gives me acess denied, why is that?
00:52:36peturgot write access?
00:53:01peturwhat's your wiki name?
00:53:12IzuilRobinBjoerklin
00:53:43Izuilbtw is there a maximum image size?
00:53:55peturwhat images are they?
00:54:30IzuilOf the Kingston KPEX internals
00:54:36Izuilfront and rear
00:55:11peturI think it's ok if they aren bigger than required to view the details needed
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00:56:18peturIzuil: you should now have write access
00:56:28bmoorequick question: i've put the most recent rockbox on my 1st gen nano; now when i scroll, there's a little bullet next to the selection, but it won't highlight. ideas?
00:56:54Izuilokey i'm just gonna cut of the edges a little bit so the size decreses
00:56:56peturchange the line selector setting
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00:58:54peturbmoore: settings->General->Display->LCD->Line selector
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00:59:45bmooresorry, petur... i was quick reading something else... worked perfect. thanks!
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01:01:02Izuilpetur, I'm not that brilliant... how do I upload the images ? :S
01:01:47Izuilor could i maybe send them to you somehow and you could upload them or is that a bad idea?
01:01:54peturAttach ? (link at the bottom)
01:02:54Izuiljust noticed :P sorry :P
01:03:09peturnp
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01:07:27Izuilhmm is the info on the battery nessecary to have?
01:07:46peturnot critical
01:08:39Izuilokey then I can shrink the image :)
01:09:32peturyes, only keep the PCB, drop battery and backside
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01:09:51Izuilokey :)
01:10:42peturare you planning a port to this player or just gathering info?
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01:11:49IzuilOhh I would really like to do it but I'n not good enough... Can't program at al som I'm just gathering information, Aux from the forums said something about porting
01:12:00IzuilI'm*
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01:14:10tradottoAnyone around?
01:14:34peturnope
01:14:41tradottoha, hello
01:14:52saratoga;i have a bit of an interesting problem with the WMA decoder, and i'd love any thoughts
01:14:58IzuilI'm kinda around too :P
01:15:05saratogai get a random 4-10 sample error in decoding
01:15:13saratogathen it returns to normal, this happens very rarely
01:15:40saratoga4-10 samples is too short to have passed through the MDCT stage, so I'm pretty baffled at what could cause it
01:16:04saratogaany thoughts while I'm out ?
01:16:09*petur knows nothing about codecs and MDCT
01:16:49saratogai should mention that its a large error, on average half of the full scale volume!
01:17:07saratogaso you hear a loud CLICK then back to normal
01:17:37petursomething is overflowing?
01:18:04petura value wrapping around,...
01:18:06tradottoI am trying to run the ipodpatcher on an ipod 4g and ubuntu linux, I have messed with this ipod for a few days now and it's not recognizable as an ipod to the patcher
01:18:29tradottois there a way to ignore that's it's not an ipod 'standard' patition table?
01:18:48peturtradotto: you need linuxstb for that I fear
01:18:50DerPapstwhats up with your partitiontable?
01:19:10peturor the pope :)
01:19:36DerPapstpetur: ;)
01:20:00tradottoI tried to install ipodlinux without the apple software (i don't want to dual boot)
01:20:07tradottoand that screwed things up a little
01:20:23tradottoI only have two partitions on it now the mbr and the /
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01:20:43Izuilpetur, the images are up now but i messed up and there is one image too much and I can't remove it, check at KingstonKPEX at the wiki
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01:21:01Izuilrear_side.jpg should be removed
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01:21:22DerPapsttradotto: can you show me your partitiontable with fdisk? (post the content at pastebin.ca)
01:21:32tradottosure
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01:23:17peturIzuil: sorry, that's beyond my powers too, you need Bagder, LinusN or Zagor (none of them online atm)
01:23:48tradottohttp://pastebin.ca/531778
01:24:15IzuilOkey, well just have to wait then 500kb might not be the biggest problem in the world either :P
01:25:48DerPapsttradotto: ipodpatcher exprects sdX2 to be fat32
01:25:56tradottooh right on
01:26:11DerPapstcange that in fdisk
01:26:16DerPapst*change
01:26:27tradottoshould I actually reformat it? or just change it in fdisk?
01:26:28DerPapstt
01:26:29DerPapst2
01:26:30DerPapstb
01:26:32DerPapstor so
01:26:57DerPapstif you want to keep the ext file system just change it in fdisk
01:27:08tradottocool
01:27:14DerPapstand then revert it in fdisk after using ipodpatcher
01:27:18Izuilpetur do you think it would help if i uploaded the bios .rom files?
01:27:30Izuilfor the mp3 player that is
01:27:52DerPapstIzuil: i guess that would be called "Violating the copyright"
01:28:10*petur needs to type faster
01:28:29DerPapstpetur: normally i'm too slow :P
01:28:41Izuildo you think since the rom files are free of charge to download at their homesite it can't be right?
01:28:43linuxstbtradotto: Does the Apple firmware boot happily on your ipod?
01:28:55 Quit robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)")
01:29:10DerPapsthi linuxstb :)
01:29:10tradotto<linuxstb> no it's gone
01:29:13tradottohttp://pastebin.ca/531790
01:29:32linuxstbtradotto: I mean does the Apple bootloader (in flash) boot anything, or does it immediately tell you your ipod is bad?
01:29:42Izuilthe bios files can be downloaded from their own homesite: http://www.kingston.com/support/downloads/portablemedia/default.asp?s=k100a
01:29:56peturIzuil: then just add the link
01:30:00tradottooh it's the apple then the folder with the ! in a triagle
01:30:03Izuilahh smart :)
01:30:28DerPapsttradotto: why have you removed the firmware partition?
01:30:29linuxstbtradotto: Yes - you won't get anywhere if the Apple bootloader isn't happy.
01:30:53DerPapsttradotto: i just said change the formart of the 2nd partition
01:31:11tradottooh opps
01:31:30*tradotto lazy and use gpart instead of doing it right
01:32:06DerPapstlinuxstb: actually if you put rockbox or the bootloader on the frimware partition (replacing the OF) it shouldn't matter if it now shows the /!\
01:32:47DerPapstbecause after that the cecksum should be ok.
01:33:00linuxstbDerPapst: I don't know exactly what the Apple bootloader is looking for... If it just checks the firmware partition, then yes.
01:33:15linuxstbBut ipodpatcher needs a working ipod to work with.
01:33:54tradottohere is the new table http://pastebin.ca/531794
01:34:02tradottoi will try the patcher now
01:34:40linuxstbtradotto: You need to make sure your ipod boots the Apple firmware before running ipodpatcher.
01:34:44DerPapstlinuxstb: but ipodpathcer (luckily) doesn't care about a broken checksum in the fw partition
01:34:56tradotto[ERR] Firmware partition doesn't contain Apple copyright, aborting.
01:34:56tradotto[ERR] Failed to read firmware directory - nimages=0
01:35:16tradottowell ah, I don't have a windows pc to restore this thing........
01:35:19DerPapstat least it is happy with your partition layout now :P
01:35:23linuxstbtradotto: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore
01:35:28*linuxstb afk
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01:36:07DerPapstlinuxstb: the apple bootloader is happy when the checksum is correct. it doesn
01:36:20tradotto<linuxstb> thanks I will see where that gets me
01:36:52DerPapst't care what it loads then.
01:37:09DerPapstit will just fail and reboot. but it doesn't complain
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01:42:35DerPapstlinuxstb: maybe a −−force option for ipodpatcher would be a nice idea... so that ipodpatcher is already happy when the partition layout is correct. (i.e. doesn't check for the apple copyright anymore)
01:46:11Izuilgod night fellas
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01:46:39linuxstb_DerPapst: That would mean ipodpatcher creating a firmware partition from scratch - it doesn't do that currently. A "force" option is not something I'm interested in implementing.
01:47:25linuxstb_ipodpatcher isn't a general-purpose ipod repair tool...
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01:48:57DerPapsti just meant that you can use ipodpatcher to copy Firmware-X.Y.Z on the iPod even if it doesn't find the apple copyright.
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01:50:29DerPapstbut it's your tool and your decision though. :)
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01:52:01OverandI haven't updated my rockbox installation on my 5G in about a month - the rev i have is working great - are there any rocking improvements?
01:52:31Overand(ipod 5g 60gb)
01:52:45DerPapstOverand: read the commit messages and you'll know.
01:52:54RockingDcould anyone help with info on x5 boot process? mybe some docs? i need to know the exact x5 startup sequence
01:53:12Overandyeah, i'm peekign at the changelog at the moment
01:53:36linuxstb_DerPapst: OK, but I think most people needing that will be capable of just using dd anyway. But I may add it...
01:53:53linuxstb_Overand: Try the MajorChanges wiki page as well.
01:54:11OverandThat's actually what I apparently got linked to - I don't see anything, really.
01:54:33OverandI'll pull it downa nyway - just back up the ver I have now.
01:54:49DerPapstlinuxstb: true but it will make life a bit easier.. (especially for windows users)
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02:02:04OverandOh, dear
02:02:08Overandare the colors of the icons hard-coded?
02:02:12Overandit's black-on-black
02:02:33DerPapstyou can use other icons
02:02:59DerPapstthere are the official ones in white somewhere on the wiki (dunno where exactly)
02:03:12Overandthanks
02:04:01DerPapstOverand: there http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IconSets
02:04:22DerPapstlast headline " Default Remakes 6x8x16"
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02:06:15Overandaye
02:06:44Overandah, weird, the iconset that's default now is different from whatever my theme is using
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02:12:54Toxicitysince rockbox supports .mpeg, if i were to put a DVD movie ripped at, say 720x480, would it fit correctly on my sansa e250? or do i still have to use the sansa media converter
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02:13:58linuxstb_You need to convert it to your Sansa's LCD resolution, plus convert the audio to 44.1KHz mp2 or mp3.
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02:14:16linuxstb_See the PluginMpegplayer wiki page.
02:14:16Toxicityah kk
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02:23:24DerPapstgood night at all
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02:39:18DanielWhi
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02:42:25kramdradoes rockbox have anyway for deleting files from hdd? without using a pc
02:43:24linuxstb_Just hold SELECT on the file, and choose Delete.
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02:44:13kramdrathanks
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02:58:32kramdraalso any plugins support gif files?
02:59:38LloreanI think there's one in the tracker
02:59:58kramdrak
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03:02:21kramdrais it possible to put a background image on the menu screens?
03:05:00LloreanYes
03:05:08LloreanIt's referred to as a "backdrop" anywhere it's discussed
03:05:17LloreanHopefully it's in the manual.
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03:28:16Overandsome of these iconsets are great!
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03:31:57DC1any idea if anyone works on the ipod dock remote control support?
03:32:49OverandI think there's nobody working on ipod accessories - but i don't know for sure
03:39:50kramdrabmp support? i have a 500x497 file that cant open.. i would use jpg which seems to work fine but need to keep detail in it
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03:58:16drumthrasher109hello?
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03:59:51drumthrasher109hello?
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04:02:57drumthrasher109hello?
04:03:22TrueJournalsHi
04:03:29drumthrasher109yes finally someone...i think
04:03:33drumthrasher109why is nobody else tlaking?
04:03:48TrueJournalsBecause they're away from their computer... or doing something else...
04:03:53drumthrasher109all those people?
04:04:00TrueJournalsperhaps
04:04:04drumthrasher109Ok I got a quick question about the Toshiba Gigabeat port
04:04:20TrueJournalsI might not be able to help you then
04:04:27TrueJournalsbut go ahead and ask... we'll see ;-)
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04:08:04drumthrasher109This is probably a stupid question but how far is the port of the S series going?
04:09:24TrueJournalsDo you mean how far along is it?
04:11:45drumthrasher109Yes, because today I plugged my dads Gigabeat S30 and it said 'Removing Media Items', so everything was removed...and maybe Rockbox would be a little bit better than its current firmware.
04:12:19TrueJournalsWell, someone posted a lot about how the firmware works, even how to inject code into the bootloader (see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInfo ), but there is not a downloable port yet
04:13:13drumthrasher109Oh ok...just wondering if there was a way to get it on there yet.
04:13:14drumthrasher109I have no idea what all that stuff there is...
04:13:24Lloreandrumthrasher109: It's not really started yet. Nobody's created a Rockbox bootloader for it, though it looks like making one should be possible
04:13:52TrueJournals^ What I was trying to say, said much better than I was saying it :-p
04:14:38drumthrasher109Darn...every 6 months it formats itself because of some stupid DRM crap and my dad is going to iraq, again for the 3rd time for 15 months, with it and I don't want it removing everything while hes there.
04:15:08drumthrasher109Ok I got a question about the iPod 5G port...
04:16:25drumthrasher109nvm
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04:17:07drumthrasher109OK now I have a question
04:17:38drumthrasher109How come the daily builds don't come with the backlight patch? It would make the battery life SO much better.
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04:19:31drumthrasher109Hello...
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04:20:36LloreanHave you done a battery benchmark comparison to see what percentage increase it gives?
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04:20:46LloreanAnd, have they fixed the bugs where it doesn't work at all in plugins?
04:21:22drumthrasher109...
04:21:23drumthrasher109idk
04:22:05LloreanWell, Rockbox isn't in the habit of incorporating buggy patches into SVN intentionally
04:22:06drumthrasher109Oh, and for some weird reason, lately, rockbox has been really slow, like scrolling and stuff, its just really really slow, although the build is quite a bit old.
04:22:33scorcheyou use the word "lately", and yet you say it is quite old..
04:22:53drumthrasher109Its about a month old build, i've just now used it
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04:27:27drumthrasher109Ok i'm using the newest build right now and the scrolling is just soooo slow!
04:28:08drumthrasher109and whats up with the recording thinger....
04:28:08XbooXdrumthrasher109: what ipod?
04:28:27drumthrasher1095g
04:28:41XbooXone sec
04:28:49drumthrasher109I've been using the Apple OS sooo much since the games are cracked and backgrounds are there and stuff
04:29:04drumthrasher109http://drum.co.nr/ipodgames, I even made a little site about it.
04:29:29scorchethis is off-topic
04:29:56drumthrasher109what is...i haven't been into rockbox in a while and i am now so i got a few questions...
04:30:15XbooXdrumthrasher109: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=8740.0
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04:30:29drumthrasher109i'm banned from the forum
04:30:32drumthrasher109by llorean, i don't remember why
04:30:58scorchehe is here, and i do vaguely...you coming back is making it come back to me..
04:31:40XbooXdrumthrasher109: http://evilg.cleansoap.org get whatever one is for your ipod
04:31:52XbooXthe scroll is fixed in them
04:31:58XbooXworks perfect
04:32:27drumthrasher109so the fire one is more beter?
04:32:31scorcheXbooX: stop telling p[eople to get that unofficial build in here...it is getting quite annoying and is not the fix to everyone's problem
04:32:31drumthrasher109better*
04:32:36drumthrasher109k nvm g2g
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04:32:55XbooXok scorche
04:33:54scorchein fact, telling them to use that one means that more people will be coming to us for support on it (if they dont knwo it is supported), and it means that they might not see/help us with bugs on official versions which means that it might be a bit longer for bugs to be fixed
04:34:55XbooXalright mate
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06:21:40Gr3yZerodoes anyone here use icatcher or unicatcher as themes?
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06:23:28Gr3yZeroor have any experience with the album art patch?
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06:33:13Gr3yZerono one uses the album art patch?
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06:35:18PaulJamGr3yZero: what's the problem?
06:35:44Gr3yZeroi can't get it to display any album art
06:35:49DC1can someone tell me what's the difference between codecs and plugins?
06:36:28PaulJamDo you use a build that includes the albumart patch?
06:36:46Gr3yZeroi'm using the icatcher theme, and have applied the two patches that are still in development, albumart and scrolling margins, they applied and compiled fine
06:37:09Gr3yZerobut it wont display cover.bmp in the directory with the mp3s
06:38:27PaulJammaybe the wps uses an outdated syntax to load the albumart.
06:38:52Gr3yZeroi'm converting the image by resizing it and saving it as a .bmp in Gimp
06:38:57Gr3yZerocould the problem be there?
06:40:21PaulJamthe wps tags for albumart are explained here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=AlbumArt
06:41:40Gr3yZeroyeah i'm checking the icatcher .cfg right now
06:42:35PaulJamyou need to look at the .wps file
06:43:48Gr3yZerowonderful
06:43:59Gr3yZeroa search for Cl wasn't found in the .wps file
06:44:11Gr3yZerooff hand do you know the old syntax?
06:45:34PaulJamnot really, maybe you find something in the comments in the flyspray task
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07:03:23Gr3yZerowell i just tried an updated .wps from the icatcher thread
07:03:39Gr3yZeroit's still not working right but i'm getting closer
07:03:53Gr3yZerooh well
07:03:56Gr3yZerothanks for your help
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07:40:02rei_iiican someone help me? I installed rockbox on my iPod 3g. It seems fine, except nothing happens when I plug the iPod to my computer (usb)
07:43:30Gr3yZeroare you sure the usb port is good?
07:43:57Gr3yZeroalso a question of my own: do ALBUM art images have to be 100x100 or can I make them smaller?
07:44:21rei_iiiyea, i used it right before updating
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07:45:41rei_iiiis there anything i'm supposed to do?
07:49:25PaulJamGr3yZero: they can be smaller (i use 75x75)
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07:50:08rei_iiihow can i make my computer recognize the ipod 3g? it stopped after installing rockbox
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07:51:39PaulJamrei_iii: have you tried to manually force it into disk mode?
07:52:04rei_iiihow?
07:52:19rei_iiiits not responding very well :/
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07:54:17m0nkhey guys
07:54:30m0nkwill the 1st gen nano build of rock box be compatible wiht the 2nd gen nano?
07:54:38scorcheno
07:54:46m0nkshit:|
07:54:58m0nkdidnt think so
07:55:06scorcheit says explicitely, that is doesnt
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07:55:24m0nklol i didnt even check...too lazy to do taht tonight
07:55:36m0nkis there an arrival date in the near future for a build for the newer nano?
07:55:41scorchenot likely
07:56:02m0nkwell that sucks lol
07:56:10m0nko well :)
07:56:16scorchefeel free to port it yourself =)
07:56:16*m0nk is happy with his gigabeat build
07:56:28m0nkscorche: if i had the uber 31337 C skillz i would
07:56:39scorchelearn C then
07:56:41m0nkbut i cant even remember hello world too well
07:56:52m0nkeh im busy with php and python right now
07:57:04scorcheit is useless to say "that sucks" when there is something you can o about it
07:57:11scorches/o/do
07:57:16m0nkscorche: i know
07:57:26PaulJamrei_iii: i think the rockbox manual describes how to enter diskmode
07:58:23m0nkim busy with projects of my own right now otherwise i would try and put in *some* work for rockbox dev lol but like i said i have no C skill
07:58:36m0nki learned a bit of C when i was younger tho just for shits and grins
07:59:05m0nkgotta love a loop that includes /a in the print f and running it on a couple computers in a computer lab at school:)
07:59:36rei_iiithanks i'll look it up
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08:01:49rei_iiifixed it, i htink
08:01:50rei_iiithanks
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08:14:50printfXh4Did someone say print!? :D
08:15:11*scorche sighs
08:16:17m0nklol @ printfXh4
08:16:26m0nksorry was in my GUI reading something
08:16:44m0nki use virtual terminals for all my important things:)
08:17:27m0nkw00t i have about 105 scores in my highscore table
08:17:30*m0nk dances
08:18:09m0nkmy shcool is awesome now! they realized my game site helped them more than hurt htem
08:18:18m0nkso now they wanna build a small intranet next year for games
08:18:20m0nk:)
08:18:32m0nklol any piece of hardware they need i told em i have
08:18:33m0nklol
08:19:51scorchem0nk: read teh guidelines please
08:20:25m0nko whoops sorry off topic
08:23:50m0nkerr spam...
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08:24:16scorcheeither one works ;)
08:24:23m0nklol my bad
08:24:54m0nki tend to spam on accident sometimes....i usually IM and when i do that i like to send many messages rather than one big message
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08:27:08*scorche sighs again
08:27:16*JdGordon wishes he still had enough lego to do that :(
08:27:45m0nkscorche: am i not allowed to try to strike up some convo when no one is talking?
08:27:46*scorche wishes people wouldnt say sorry for something that they do immediately after apologizing
08:28:05scorchem0nk: read the guidelines...do they say that exception?
08:28:44*m0nk sighs
08:28:45m0nkno
08:32:04m0nk:| imma head to my usual room if ii have anything worthy of saying here i will come back
08:32:07m0nkpeace guys
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12:31:39NIXON-TrentHey
12:31:41NIXON-Trentanyone awake ?
12:32:36NIXON-Trent:(
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12:33:29JdGordonnot a franksturnite :(
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12:40:12NIXON-Trenthey jdgordon
12:40:34JdGordonhowdy
12:40:41NIXON-Trentquick question
12:40:57NIXON-Trentdoes anyone know how good the "turning a ipod photo into a ipod video is?"
12:41:02NIXON-Trenti looked into it a few months back
12:41:07NIXON-Trentwondering if they acctually finally did it...
12:41:13NIXON-Trentsupposivly u can using rockbox..
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12:42:22JdGordonNIXON-Trent: I assume your talking about watching vids on it?
12:42:30JdGordonyes, you can watch mpegs on it with the plugin
12:44:06NIXON-Trentgood quality ?
12:44:11NIXON-Trentlike a ipod video ?
12:44:22NIXON-Trentlast time i heard they where doing just several images together to make a animation...
12:44:24NIXON-Trenthehe
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12:47:16markunNIXON-Trent: not exactly the same quality
12:47:26markunLook here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer
12:48:00markunlast time checked the iPod photo played 224x176 videos with 18fps
12:48:33markunbut there have been some optimisations since then so it might be a bit higher now
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12:55:11McEnroei have a ipod NanoG1. sometimes the playback doesn't work. the wps shows "play" but the the "progressbar" doesn't move... bug or feature i don't know how to use?
12:55:33markunbug I would say
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12:56:31markunthe problem is to find a way to reproduce the bug so it can be fixed
12:56:57McEnroeis there a way to stop playback? i mean dismiss the playlist and not just pause?
12:57:42markunMcEnroe: it should be in the manual, let me check
12:57:54McEnroemarkun: the problem is that i installed rockbox yesterday and i don't really know what i did. i just played with the setting
12:58:26markunMcEnroe: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-440004.3.1
12:59:13NIXON-Trentthanks markun :)
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13:00:12NIXON-Trent18fps is alright ey ?
13:00:16NIXON-Trentwould play fine
13:01:15markunif you have a ipod photo you could check howmany fps you get with the sample videos
13:01:18McEnroemarkun: doesn't work for me... if i go to "resume playback" i shall show "nothing to resume" but it resumes the same playlist
13:01:50markunMcEnroe: yes, if you stop playback you can still resume it later
13:02:06markunbut you can also choose to play some other tracks
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13:04:06McEnroeso there is no way to stop playback, clear the playlist, like as if i would start rockbox for the first time?
13:04:24NIXON-Trentthey say 18fps is what u get on the ipod photo full screen
13:04:24markunstopping clears the playlist
13:04:31NIXON-Trentfullscreen on a video ipod is 19fps
13:04:38NIXON-Trentso i doubt u'd notice any diffrence ?
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13:04:54markunNIXON-Trent: those figures are a bit old, it's probably more now
13:05:09NIXON-Trentah ok
13:05:19NIXON-Trentbut anyways its pretty close to the same as a ipod video anyway..
13:05:21NIXON-Trentso either way..
13:05:38NIXON-Trentso does rockbox need ipodlinux ?
13:05:39markunbut the resolution is lower of course
13:05:48markunno, rockbox != linux
13:05:51NIXON-Trenti did this all ages ago but i forgot lol
13:05:56NIXON-Trentah ok
13:06:10markunjust check the manual, it will explain how to install it
13:06:10NIXON-Trenthttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer
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13:06:19NIXON-Trentthats built into rockbox correct ?
13:06:23markunyes
13:06:44NIXON-Trentgrat
13:06:47NIXON-Trentgreat*
13:06:54NIXON-Trentthanks heaps for the help appreciated :)
13:07:26markunMcEnroe: what's the problem with the 'resume playback' feature?
13:08:02markunthe playlist is cleared, but with the 'resume playback' feature you can get the last one back
13:09:07McEnroemarkun: i intend to use it as a debugging feature for the play-but-not-for-real bug
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13:11:40lamedhello
13:12:38lamedI can't connect to the internet using Vmware, probably because I'm using a router. is anyone familiar with it?
13:13:56The-Compilerlamed: I use a router too, but I haven't this problem
13:14:45lamed... I just can't connect to anything, can't ping or whatever
13:15:02NIXON-Trenthey markun i've got a quick question.. do u know if i could get a xvid compressed and running on the ipod photo ? there around 700mb as is... ?
13:15:15n1slamed: maybe it's a firewall thing?
13:15:48NIXON-Trentfind what port vmware uses
13:15:57lamedbut shouldn't vmware be using the same ports as windows? i'm on xp and I can ping from it
13:16:00NIXON-Trentmake sure its not blocked by ur router or worse isp... :/ but should be..
13:16:13NIXON-Trentshouldn*
13:16:16NIXON-Trentsouldnt*
13:16:42lamedhow come?
13:16:52lamedor, what ports does it use?
13:17:08markunNIXON-Trent: there are some tools described on the PluginMpegplayer wiki
13:17:56markunI've used 'mencoder' to convert some xvid files
13:18:44Learn1s: Btw, I have a patch (hack, rather) for gcc, so that it's less sensitive to changes like the one in id3.h. It's m68k specific, but similar things can be done for other back-ends.
13:19:32lamedhmm, I think I found it, I'll let you know in a bit
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13:28:53McEnroedoes rockbox have a vcf viewer?
13:29:02markunwhat's vcf?
13:30:14McEnroethe format contactdata is stored in
13:30:32McEnroelike a buisnesscard
13:31:01markunI don't think there is a viewer for that no
13:36:21NIXON-Trenthey markun
13:36:27NIXON-Trenti've got rockbox running
13:36:29NIXON-Trenton my ipod
13:36:32NIXON-Trentbut in the plugins
13:36:32markunnice!
13:36:43NIXON-Trenttheres no "mpegaplayer" ?
13:36:44NIXON-Trentlol ?
13:36:54markunIt's not there no
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13:37:07markunit's a viewer, it works by clicking on a video file
13:37:17NIXON-TrentDownload
13:37:17NIXON-TrentLike all plugins documented on this website, mpegplayer is included in the standard Rockbox installation
13:37:20NIXON-Trentah ok
13:37:30markuntry one of these: http://mikachu.rockbox.org/
13:38:00markunThe 224 ones
13:40:53n1sLear: ah, interesting, how does it work? by rearranging the struc or something else?
13:41:57JdGordonhey n1s
13:42:06JdGordonyou had a q ages ago in the logs abou ACTION_WPSAB_SINGLE yeah?
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13:44:17Learn1s: No, it's how gcc does the array index calculations. It chooses to use shifts and adds, because multiplications are considered to be slower. But the ColdFire CPU:s in question, it wouldn't be. So by correcting the multiplication "cost", gcc use multiplication rather than shift and add.
13:44:51lamedThe problem with vmware not being able to use windowsXP internet connection: I've shut down Vmware's services a while ago to save up on ram
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14:01:00NIXON-Trenthey markun how long did it usually take u to incode a movie ?
14:01:30markun30 minutes maybe
14:01:40NIXON-Trent35mins remaining..
14:01:46NIXON-Trentkk np just checking i was doing things right ;)
14:01:57NIXON-Trentestimated size ?
14:02:03markun400MB
14:02:13markunbut it depends on the settings you use
14:02:23markunand the length of the video
14:02:45NIXON-Trentyeah
14:02:52NIXON-Trenti'm trying to encode a xvid movie atm
14:02:57NIXON-Trentdeja vu
14:03:22NIXON-Trentorginal size is around 700mb and i went with medium settings for most of the qualitys..
14:03:23markunusually I first encode just a few minutes
14:03:24NIXON-Trentjust to see how it is..
14:03:38markunto look at the quality and if there are not problems with audio/video sync
14:04:55NIXON-Trentah how do u encode just a certain part ?
14:05:29NIXON-Trentim using "media coder" instead
14:05:58NIXON-Trentmovie seems to be playing fine on the ipod atm
14:06:21markunI use mencoder and just press control-C after a while
14:06:44NIXON-Trenti wish i never scratched my front cover so much
14:06:51NIXON-Trentcan u replace the front of an ipod cover ?
14:06:56NIXON-Trentthe white / screen part
14:10:20lamedhow come I get a bunch of "DEST: "" for * / " instead of an updated translation file?
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14:12:37lamed ../../tools/genlang -u -e=english.lang greek.lang > 123
14:14:23lameddoesn't work
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14:16:53*McEnroe wants to thank the rockbox people! OGG works on my ipod!
14:17:05markunMcEnroe: you're welcome :)
14:18:11*lamed politely ask for help
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14:23:01lamedI can't make updates for a language files because genlang doesn't work for me properly
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14:30:02lamed...it keeps spitting out ### LANG_SET_BOOL_YES: The phrase is not used. Skipped lines
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14:46:37Learlamed: Yes, it does seem broken...
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14:48:26bennypHello. I've heard that I can record through the headphone jack with rockbox. Any truth to this?
14:48:29lamedTHANK YOU
14:48:53lamedi'm on it for 25 minuts and not one reply. i thought it was my fault
14:49:07bennyplamed: timezones
14:50:35bennyp^ I'm talking about an iPod nano 1st gen BTW
14:51:50desowinbennyp: you can't on nano nor mini
14:51:59bennypdesowin: hardware lacking?
14:52:05desowinyes
14:52:16bennypdesowin: well that's just peaches
14:52:33bennypguess i'll have to wait till i can buy a sync cable and solder a minijack onto it for my palm tx
14:53:27lamedbennyp: I don't think so. did you tried it?
14:53:54bennyplamed: nope, that's why i asked here.
14:53:59bennyphave a nice one, all
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14:54:23lamedI could get a clean update while using an older revision... better tell daniel
14:55:35LearIt seems to have problem reading the english file, not finding any of the strings...
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14:57:44NIXON-Trentmarkun
14:57:47NIXON-Trentabout ? :D
14:58:01markunI'm here
14:59:33lamedlear: i bet no language updates were made at the last 13 days... (Modified Sun May 20 13:20:45 2007 UTC (13 days, 23 hours ago) by bagder )
14:59:44LearCould be.
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15:00:41NIXON-Trenti encoded that movie
15:00:46NIXON-Trentand it ended up just only having audio :S
15:00:47NIXON-Trentgrrrr
15:00:58NIXON-Trentknow any simple to use programs that i could use to encode a xvid ?
15:02:24markunthere are 3 explained on the PluginMpegplayer wiki page
15:02:29markundid you try any of them?
15:03:53linuxstbNIXON-Trent: I think winff is the recommended encoder - you can download presets for it from the wiki.
15:11:16NIXON-Trentcheers
15:12:52Learlamed: I'll add a comment to the bug that "triggered" the change.
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15:19:40Learlamed: you may be able to work around the problem by specifying a target (-t option).
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15:24:49JdGordonoh bloody helll :( a UI bug which doesnt effect the sim
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15:25:53JdGordonhmm... or maybe it does :p
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15:54:35JdGordonwould anyone be deeply upset if I reverted the acceleration patch coz I cant be bothered with these annoying list bugs in exam week?
15:55:13Lear How bad are the bugs?
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15:55:53JdGordonsmall, but irritating, display bugs, so nothin major
15:57:17LearThen it might not be so bad if the fix takes a little while (and it's not like you're the only one who can fix it)...
15:57:29lamedlear: i'm using an older version of genlang, i hope its fine
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16:03:24jhMikeSJdGordon: no...and are you in a position to test something on e200 real quick? :)
16:04:06JdGordonyep
16:04:22jhMikeSif you have buttons, all is good: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/MichaelSevakis?rev=1;filename=GPIO_IRQ.diff.txt
16:05:58jhMikeSwhat's creepy is I though I covered that and it didn't work before...but now I've got working GPIO on mine. :\
16:06:12jhMikeSIRQs that is
16:07:53JdGordoncomp not co-operating...
16:07:56JdGordonalmost ready..
16:08:12*JdGordon has to downgrade the OF s he can skip the db rebuild
16:09:17JdGordonjhMikeS: yep, buttons working...
16:09:17jhMikeSthe db rebuid skip only works on some versions? hrm...I'm tired of waiting through that.
16:09:26jhMikeSsweet, it's a commit then...thanks
16:09:44JdGordonwe know the byte for 3 OF versinos
16:10:10JdGordonbut they either screwed us with the new version, or im doing it wrong... there is no chnged bytes anymore
16:11:01jhMikeSwould be rude of them to make it impossible to turn off
16:11:06JdGordonyeah :)
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16:18:08jhMikeSso no bytes on any partitions change besides what you wrote to it?
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16:19:44JdGordonjust checked the 20mb partition
16:20:17*jhMikeS wants to get the time screen keys fixed up...using up and down to move left and right is well, awkward and the wheel direction in the keymaps is reversed.
16:20:44JdGordonit has its own keymap context... so keymaps/keymap-e200.c is your friend :p
16:21:06*JdGordon wonders if he would be shot for commiting nested MAX() calls :)
16:21:52jhMikeSprobably better to save each MAX() to a temp variable...gcc does a lousy job of optimizing the common subexpressions anyway
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16:23:41JdGordonthe common expression was 0.. but i was all wrong anyway :p
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16:27:33jhMikeSdon't confuse GCC by using constants :P
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16:34:44jhMikeSJdGordon: Have screen melts slowed down for you? They seem to be far less frequent now but not totally fixed.
16:35:29JdGordonI havnt been running the fixed cde for long enough to notice
16:35:41JdGordonI havnt seen any since updating though
16:35:49JdGordonexcept the one in the bootloader
16:36:29jhMikeSthere's a few but it's usually hours in between instead of minutes
16:37:55JdGordonbig imporvement anyway :)
16:38:43JdGordonalrighty, I tihnk i have 100% flawlessly working up movement it the lists
16:38:48JdGordonnow to fix down movement
16:39:06jhMikeSI'm thinking I'm just going to make a system-e200.c since this player needs different treatment than ipods
16:40:56JdGordondo you get better code if you copy a frequently used struct member into a temp var instead of using it with -> every time?
16:41:29JdGordonfor reading the var...
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16:43:38jhMikeSmmmm...I think it's the same and it just places it in a register anyway
16:45:31*jhMikeS still worries a bit about a barrage of FS B#xxxx - "Sansa e200: Buttons don't work anymore in Rockbox" :p
16:46:00JdGordonhehe
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16:46:10JdGordonany reason why the interupts arnt being used inthe bootloader?
16:46:12jhMikeSI swear I went over that
16:46:43JdGordonyou mean explainng it?
16:46:47*JdGordon runs off to the logs
16:47:03jhMikeSSimpler and smaller since it only does one check of the button status
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16:47:17JdGordonah yes
16:47:26jhMikeSexplaining it?
16:47:33JdGordondw..
16:47:42JdGordonnot that the bl size really matters on the sansa..
16:48:59jhMikeScome to think of it I it's not setting the int_button var at init...woops
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17:05:02JdGordonim hopeing to replace the entire movmtn code with completly redone code, so nne of thes current bugs wll be present
17:07:51JdGordonand getting rid of this bloody gui_list_put_selection_on_screen() function which is annoying me
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18:03:42lamedhow can i commit from a repository that wasn't downloaded by svn? (what's the command to make the svn folder with the entries file inside?)
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18:10:08lamedany1 please...
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18:16:24linuxstbI don't think there is a command to do that. I think you would need to download a second copy of the source, create a diff between "original" and "patched", then apply that patch to a version of the source checked out from SVN.
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18:40:24lamedlinuxstb: the problem is that the server is so slow for me that I can't download a source. it was working for more then three hours and no source.
18:41:05linuxstbCan you grab the source from SVN?
18:41:48lamedno, that's the problem, i could get to download a part of the /tools folder but it goes very slow.
18:42:45lamedit's just a language update btw, I have to download it
18:43:02linuxstbHow many files have you changed?
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18:43:19linuxstbThen you can just download that one file and do a diff.
18:43:28linuxstbOr checkout the lang folder by itself from svn
18:44:42lamedi don't think i can / I don't know how do i checkout only one folder or one file. you can go svn update if you are missing a file but that's after you have downloaded the full rapository
18:46:26linuxstbSomething like "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk/apps/lang/ lang" would checkout the lang folder into a local folder called "lang"
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18:49:14lamedcan I go svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk/apps/lang/hebrew.lang lang or what? it just doesn't do anything for me. I know i have a slow access to the server because i'm from israel.
18:50:21linuxstbChecking out the lang/ folder doesn't work?
18:51:10lamedno.. it stays foot for me. would you kindly upload the file for me? I have no other commits for the next four months...
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18:51:44linuxstbYou just want a copy of hebrew.lang ?
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18:54:12lamedno, i want to update hebrew.lang, It's all done and verified but i can't commit it
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18:56:11n1slamed: I can commit it for you
18:57:05lamedgreat, mailbox please?
18:59:09n1slamed: did you get my /msg ?
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19:11:03n1slamed: ok, comitted
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19:38:47linuxstbThe official .exe runs fine under Wine
19:39:24linuxstbOr there's a port to Linux of the original source on Sourceforge, I forget the project name though...
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19:50:21n1slinuxstb: yes, I also bumped into that... maybe I should just install wine, but that is for another day
19:50:43McEnroeis there a reason why the fonts aren't included by default since most of the included themes don't work without them?
19:51:04n1sMcEnroe: they rarely change and take up valuable bandwdth
19:51:30n1s...if they're included in all the rockbox.zip files
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19:52:14Buschelhi, what is the difference between IBSS_ATTR and IDATA_ATTR?
19:52:38linuxstbBSS is initialised to zero (so isn't included in the binary), DATA is initialised, meaning it is included in the binary.
19:53:21Buschelthanks
19:53:24linuxstbIf the initialised data is constant (e.g. lookup tables), they should be ICONST_ATTR
19:54:08lamed(tt n1s)
19:54:13Buschelyes, saw this in the code. will using IDATA_ATTR lead to higher performance an calculations, if used for often used variables?
19:55:22linuxstbGenerally speaking, on Coldfire, yes, on PP, no.
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19:55:48Buschellinux: not on PP, thats a pitty...
19:55:52linuxstbBut it's important to remember that the stack is already in IRAM - so any local variables are in IRAM.
19:56:36linuxstbBuschel: Feel free to experiment, but the impact of using IRAM on PP is unpredictable (at least for me).
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21:05:16petur"CVS users, you shouldn't be here, you should be in a mental institution"
21:05:35n1s:-D
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22:16:11*petur ducks
22:16:30peturquaaaak!
22:18:13amiconnlinuxstb: Did your wavrecord session work well?
22:18:22*bluebrother is surprised by this noise in the channel
22:19:12linuxstbamiconn: The TV broadcast I wanted to record didn't happen in the end, so I didn't try it.
22:22:11n1samiconn: what do you think about FS #7251 (the struct reordering patch) should I committ it (if I can get people to test on non- coldfire players) or would you rather see I didn't?
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22:27:11webguest77 I just want to say thank you to all of the rockbox volunteers. I have used rockbox on my H10 for the past year and have had no problems!
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22:32:09webguest95qwm wasn't very popular, getting kicked 4 times!
22:32:09webguest95For example, like this:
22:32:10webguest95 *** qwm was kicked by Bagder
22:32:12webguest95dongs seemed to be hated too: 3 kicks were received.
22:32:14webguest95Daniel Stenberg is either insane or just a fair op, kicking a total of 42 people!
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22:33:10bluebrotherhmm. What should this tell us?
22:33:40webguest63IDK my BFF jill
22:33:59bluebrotherah. No idea what this should mean.
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22:35:37webguest63*** Topic is: Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcGuidelines | Rockbox Devcon 2007 Highlights - http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2007/ | DevCon-West: - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevConWest2007
22:35:37webguest63*** Topic set by scorche [Sun May 20 16:33:53 2007]
22:35:37DBUGEnqueued KICK webguest63
22:35:37webguest63*** webguest63 Rob2222 pixelma krush1704 saratoga Guile` sbeh amiconn element_g kkurbjun BigMac davina_ z35 Nibbier robin0800 Faemir DC1 BRi7X Ave Nico_P gromit` jhMikeS midkay petur maffe rotator Arathis FOAD_ pearldiver hannesd orbit7 bluebrother Buschel Rincewind SaLoMoN HEx ompaul spiorf obo n1s McEnroe Siltaar ender` ze atsea- lids DataGhost Seed thegeek chrisjs169 zylche justthisguy XavierGr lostnihilis
22:35:40webguest63*** Nimdae intgr billytwowilly alberink Bjoern-Erik basscadet pabs markun Farpnut Rick tsygrl Weiss logbot_ RaRe scorche Mouser_X maxkelley courtc Lynx_ kclaf Overand enyc lostlogic sslashes Galois andrew__2 tchan Hadaka jurrie Neovanglist hax bospaadje driver8` idnar Jon-Kha hanaurimasume tipi^ DiDjCodt toer gtkspert alienbiker99 daurnimator dark YouCeyE [mbm] Ikarus Caliban_ BHSPitMonkey blithe feisar _pill
22:35:45webguest63*** luckz Slasheri preglow Bagder crwl
22:35:47webguest63*** Channel created on Sun Nov 26 07:42:49 2006
22:36:00DataGhostplease die horribly
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22:36:04CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
22:36:04*bluebrother supports petur
22:36:11maffek
22:36:13midkayDataGhost: hey hey, don't feed it.. :)
22:36:19*ender` yawns
22:36:24webguest63Yeah...
22:36:25maffe:)
22:36:28bluebrotheris it sleeping?
22:36:28DataGhostjust asking
22:36:29DataGhost:)
22:36:36Rincewinddamn, he intercepted my movie :(
22:36:57bluebrothera hilight intercepts your movie? Hmm.
22:37:17DataGhostactually, my highlight thing is a sound
22:37:24DataGhostand I was just testing my new Shure E3Gs
22:37:28DataGhostat a fairly high volume
22:37:31Rincewindit's a 'plonk' sound for me
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22:38:17bluebrotheroh, he got a name. Something new ...
22:38:27Fillip7Die horribly
22:38:38DataGhostoh god, it's an echo
22:38:51*bluebrother prefers to view the project arcade documentation instead
22:39:01RincewindI'll be back later
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22:39:11midkayi wonder if our #rockbox trolls actually use rockbox...
22:39:16Fillip7Hello, my name is inigo montoyo, you killed my father prepare to...
22:39:20midkaymaybe they're actually loyal and devoted users!
22:39:31DataGhostwell maybe they wanted to
22:39:37DataGhostas I sometimes see on the iPL forums
22:39:41DataGhost'omg iPL destroyed my iPod'
22:39:45DataGhost'its a virus!'
22:39:48ompaulmidkay, one would doubt that, but their uncle steve would not let them
22:39:48midkayhaha.
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22:39:49DataGhost'you ($*@#&$(@s'
22:40:29DataGhostanyway
22:40:34DataGhostback to my current addiction
22:40:36DataGhostStargate SG-1 [6x04] Frozen.avi
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22:41:02DataGhostI think he's copying me
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22:41:06DataGhosttaking the piss even
22:41:07DataGhost:/
22:41:19midkayhaha.
22:41:22DataGhostnote to self: disable highlights and don't respond
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22:42:16DerPapstaww.. i'm too late.
22:42:23*DerPapst missed the troll
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22:42:32midkayno you didn't :)
22:42:36midkayonly a matter of time...
22:42:37bluebrotherDerPapst: just came back :)
22:42:38DerPapsthehe
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22:43:11echo7Hello, When will the fm tuner be functional for the H10?
22:43:22DerPapstat least he isn't DDOS'ing the rb server like the one troll in the #ipodlinux channel :-/
22:43:30echo7If it ever will...
22:43:37n1secho7: whenever someone makes it functional
22:44:02echo7Who is in charge of the H10 codeing
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22:44:54bluebrotheroh, food for the troll?
22:45:13echo7What is with all of the troll talk
22:46:04linuxstbecho7: No-one is "in charge" of the H10 port - Rockbox doesn't work like that.
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22:46:30bluebrotherecho7 = Fillip7 = webguest84 = webguest63 = webguest95 ...
22:46:34echo7oh...
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22:48:23RichiHip hashes as ident are rather cool :)
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22:49:59ompaulbluebrother, you like ip hashs :) there was some other stuff in the background
22:50:30bluebrotherreally? Did I miss something?
22:50:41ompaulpeeps I lurk here if you have that kind of trouble we (freenode staff) can't act unless we are on the access list we can do other things that help
22:51:19ompaulso if you have that kind of thing going on ping me - at least I can flag it to the other freenode staff - when they impact more than one channel then it is a network issue
22:51:31ompauls/when/where
22:51:59bluebrotherah.
22:52:06ompaulyour with me now ;-)
22:52:12*ompaul <3 rockbox
22:52:16bluebrothernice :)
22:52:23ompaulkeeps me sane going to work in the morning
22:53:26ompaulif /freenode/staff/* are added to the access list then a lot more damage limitation can take place, but that is the first time I have seen someone do that here
22:54:00*ompaul is in the iaudio camp
22:54:03bluebrotherHaven't seem much trouble in here since I'm regularly in this channel
22:54:11ompaulyeap
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22:54:34bluebrotherwhich is a really nice fact for itself
22:54:41ompaulat this stage we are more than likely offtopic, but as I said feel free to ping me in private or publicly
22:55:03bluebrotherright ... back to topic again. Thanks for the hint.
22:55:08ompaulif there is something we can/will talk with most people and bots generally echo back upline :)
22:55:40*amiconn doesn't use his channel power very often, hence needs to look up the ban format all the time :/
22:56:17ompaulamiconn, which client do you use?
22:56:28amiconnHydraIRC
22:56:33ompaulahh
22:56:49amiconnwhy?
22:57:00ompauldon't know of any scripts for that - my xchat has some interesting scripts written for it
22:57:32*amiconn doesn't understand how a script could help here
22:57:55ompaul op stuff in really short things like /cs kb $user $reason-can-be-blank user removed and no thinking
22:58:41*amiconn still doesn't understand...
22:59:02ompaulamiconn, set up an alias for the modes and op stuff you need
22:59:21amiconnI mean, in this case, since it was a webclient user and used several nicks, I would have had to set a ban on the username part (which in case of the webclient is the client ip in hex)
22:59:48amiconnAnd I never remember the format of the ban command since I use it maybe once a year...
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23:00:02amiconnOpping and deopping is simple
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23:00:47ompaul /cs n foo
23:00:52ompaulno worries
23:01:42ompaulI'll crawl back under the bridge ;-) and lurk a while
23:02:07amiconn:confusion: :(
23:02:17amiconnWhat is 'n' ???
23:02:32ompaula one letter alias for name
23:03:01ompaulthese are scripts for xchat that are pythonized
23:03:15amiconnhmmm
23:03:25ompaulif you only want it once a year not an issue :)
23:03:33*amiconn thought /cs would be the usual shoprtcut for /msg chanserv
23:04:28ompaulit is but the n part is locally parsed to do stuff
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23:19:15*amiconn made some notes regarding ban format...
23:19:33amiconnNow I need to remember where I stored the txt...
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23:26:51dionoeahi. What does the 90-10 Runtime column refer too in the IpodRuntime wiki page ?
23:28:12linuxstbI would guess the time from 90% to 10%
23:28:38dionoeausing rockbox ? and same test as the 1st column ?
23:29:22linuxstbYes
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23:30:12dionoeaok. Thanks.
23:32:29scorcheoh wow...sorry guys
23:32:38*scorche should have gotten up an hour earlier
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23:33:02*DerPapst wonders why's that
23:33:17*scorche points up to the troll
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23:34:47peturamiconn: google for tombo
23:35:47scorcheamiconn: typically, a ban isnt needed...personally, i prefer doing "/mode #rockbox +q *!*@*", except filling in the asterists wityh something valid...the first is the username, then the ident, and finally, the hostname
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23:38:12scorchethat will mute them....in that example, a ban would be (i like modes) "/mode #rockbox +b *!4a841a2a@*"
23:39:38BigMacis anyone and advid samba user or atleast knows a decent amount about it
23:40:26scorcheBigMac: #samba would most likely be a better place for that
23:41:21BigMacscorche: Yah, already tried it but it seems to be rather inactive
23:41:42BigMacie 30 ish minutes and no response or any talking
23:41:51scorchethat doesnt mean you should ask the question here...that is offtopic
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