--- Log for 10.01.107 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.03 # ;-P 00.00.13 # lol 00.00.13 # Because iPodLinux doesn't already exist or anything. 00.00.14 # And then XOR things together and see if that works! 00.00.15 # this is for nano 2nd gen 00.00.22 Quit secleinteer (Remote closed the connection) 00.01.33 # * Llorean wonders if the 2G Nano's bootloader is encrypted the same was as prior bootloaders. 00.01.42 # The AUPD part, that is. 00.02.50 Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@adsl-70-133-171-72.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 00.02.58 # oh, wait... we want the AS3514? I totally said I wanted the AS3515 00.03.54 # I see they've duplicated the 256MB RAM mistake... 00.04.11 # lol 00.04.27 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.38.93) 00.04.30 # linuxstb: yes 00.04.32 # lavid: They are close enough that we can get sound out with an AS3515 datasheet 00.04.47 # linuxstb: doesn't respond to any button presses except the menu-select 00.05.00 # "with 256 KBytes of SDRAM" too 00.05.06 # isn't that SRAM? 00.06.13 # I would hope so. 00.06.24 # dan_a: I could send the person another email, specifying the *14 00.07.09 # lavid: I suspect that for the bits that we are interested in they are identical 00.07.24 # dan_a: okay, I'll leave it as is then. 00.07.38 Quit ender` (" Pets are better than children because: 11. If they get pregnant, you can sell their children.") 00.07.48 # Austrian Microsystems has a representative *in* my city, apparently 00.08.16 Join hen3rz [0] (n=hen3rz@203-206-38-184.dyn.iinet.net.au) 00.08.17 # Not that it's the sort of representation that would do any good. 00.09.30 # ElPenguin: What are you doing when it hangs? 00.09.46 Join jfayre [0] (i=450fcfe2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8a8491df253959dd) 00.10.39 Quit gotthardt ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.11.34 Quit jfayre (Client Quit) 00.11.46 Part Llorean 00.12.34 # Bagder: What's the command for checking out from svn with my username and password? 00.12.57 # linuxstb: you check out the same way, it'll prompt you for name and password when you commit 00.13.04 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.13.21 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.13.47 # So the "anonymous" checkout I made yesterday is good to go? 00.14.14 # yeps 00.14.23 Join tamacracker [0] (n=tamacrac@c-67-191-48-48.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.14.24 # hmm, so it will ask every time I make a commit or does it that only once and saves the password for later use? 00.14.33 # it saves it 00.14.43 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.14.55 # nice. 00.15.17 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 00.16.22 # hmm, I think I'll try to play around with that themes overview page the next days (if I find the time) 00.16.33 # * preglow shakes Bagder's hand 00.16.59 # I can't remember who runs the Sanda RevEng page, but the DAC should probably include some info re: the austriamicrosystems presentation slide 00.17.12 # Sanda=Sansa 00.18.03 # I run it 00.18.36 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.19.03 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.21.28 Quit bluebrother ("time for sleep ...") 00.21.49 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 00.21.51 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.22.00 # where's the new repo at? 00.22.28 # svn://svn.rockbox.org/ 00.22.49 # fancy 00.24.36 # Does svn make it easier for people to create patches without write access? e.g. adding new files locally? 00.25.15 # yes I think you can do that 00.25.22 # as you only need access when you commit 00.26.27 # * dan_a now has a 480MB rockbox source dir 00.27.02 # * Bagder recommends getting "trunk" ;-) 00.27.54 # It's running git that does it - I've got every revision locally 00.28.56 # looks like svn.rockbox.org hosts the curl web :> 00.29.07 # doesn't svn have a web interface too? 00.29.15 # preglow: yes it does, i'm working on it 00.29.19 # Zagor: cool 00.29.31 # been a while since i set up svn properly last 00.29.54 # Is the svn password exchange protected, or is it cleartext like cvs 'pserver'? 00.30.06 # exchange protected, afaik 00.30.19 # or hmm 00.30.31 # i think you need to tunnel it for anything not trivial to crack 00.30.45 # I think so too. 00.30.50 # CRAM-MD5 over the wire 00.31.00 # Bagder: natively? 00.31.07 # yes 00.31.17 # no password around to snoop on 00.31.20 # neat. so why is "everyone" running over ssh? 00.31.31 # because they want something more 00.31.53 # if you're refering to ssh+svn, that's to be able to set up svn on an account you just have around 00.31.58 # i use it like that, and it's damned great 00.32.05 Quit Mikachu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.32.21 # and anyway, people seem to just use ssl encryption by default, these days 00.34.20 # there's no equivalent to the rockbox and rockbox-devel tags anymore? you just get everything if you do trunk? 00.34.38 # correct 00.34.42 # greatzot 00.34.43 # -r 00.34.47 # beh 00.35.09 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 00.37.49 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.37.59 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 00.39.54 # nearly revision 12k, damn... 00.40.06 Join Mikachu [0] (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 00.40.09 # and that's with cvs commits being grouped as they were? 00.40.30 Quit mirak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.40.48 # so, when again was the new cvs page supposed to be up? the svn thing? 00.41.25 # preglow: yes, the conversion script groups CVS commits to single svn commits 00.41.43 # * pixelma just learned about the disadvantages of not being subscribed to the rockbox-dev mailing list... 00.41.47 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) 00.42.07 # Bagder: damn... 00.42.40 # Hehe, the CVS builds page needs to be renamed... 00.42.51 # haha 00.42.54 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Khe!!!") 00.43.15 Quit habana ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.43.16 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohannmi@cpe-71-72-99-25.columbus.res.rr.com) 00.43.18 # Are there already some instructions for build server admins 00.43.19 # ? 00.43.49 # no 00.46.22 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.46.31 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 00.46.31 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.46.36 # hrum 00.48.01 Quit funky ("leaving") 00.48.33 # linuxstb: sorry for the delay. i'll just be playing music and then i'll want to change song and it'll be hung. the music will continue to play however 00.48.44 Join SoapIsOutOfTown [0] (n=Soap@237.sub-70-200-134.myvzw.com) 00.50.32 # so, is there a new page somewhere and I just have no found it, or is it still being worked on? 00.52.46 # Alonea: we're still working on it. 00.53.07 # use the daily builds until then 00.53.59 Join zylche [0] (n=wheee@82-41-83-91.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) 00.56.05 # ElPenguin: Are you running a recent "official" Rockbox build, or one of the unsupported builds? 00.56.07 # Am I right in thinking that in ARM assembler, a "bx" instruction doesn't change to thumb mode if the address to branch to is an even number? 00.56.27 # dan_a: that's my understanding of it 00.56.38 Quit Alonea ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 00.56.54 # don't you change back from thumb mode that way? 00.57.10 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 00.57.27 # Bagder: I think so. 00.57.38 # dan_a: There's a pitfall: The bit deciding about the mode is bit 0 00.58.07 # The address itself would _always have bit 0 == 0, for any thumb or arm instruction 00.58.35 # In thumb mode, bit 1 can have either value, in arm mode it's also always zero 00.59.19 # Understood. I'm just trying to follow a disassembly, and it's making no sense to me. 00.59.46 # for build servers, do this in rbclient's home dir: 00.59.50 # mkdir old 00.59.58 # mv apps bootloader CVS docs firmware flash fonts gdb manual tools uisimulator wps old/ 01.00.07 # svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk . 01.00.09 # *done* 01.00.10 # you can mkdir zold;mv * 01.00.14 # but that's cheating 01.00.35 Join pronto [0] (n=pronto18@pool-71-166-59-160.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) 01.00.39 # moving all is not what we want 01.00.50 # Do I need to be 'rbclient' for this? 01.00.51 # ah, never mind then 01.01.04 # amiconn: it is probably the easiest way 01.01.10 # hey, I need some help for the gigabeat port 01.01.15 # * amiconn is not sure how to do this, then 01.01.24 # rbclient can't logon locally 01.01.31 # su ; su rbclient 01.01.40 # that won't exactly work, you need to type su rbclient after you're root 01.01.48 # That's what I meant... 01.01.52 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 01.01.56 # pronto : what do you need ? 01.02.05 # linuxstb: tnx 01.02.17 # I get this error, 0020070 - No system found on HDD 01.02.25 # ah, never mind then+=1; 01.02.46 # and I stupidly deleted everything on the gigabeat, so yeah :\ 01.03.20 # damn, svn is zippier by far 01.03.24 # better hardware too? 01.03.33 # yes, and bigger pipe 01.03.36 # yes, and particularly the net connection 01.03.43 # Bagder: My server's done 01.03.49 # pronto : nothing or you can read the disk ? 01.03.57 # wouldn't build server need to allow logon from another ip too? 01.04.09 # linuxstb: thanks 01.04.14 # heh, nice subhostname on the svn server :) 01.04.32 # preglow: they allow login using the key, not based on IP 01.04.34 # subdomain is the word i wanted 01.04.38 # Bagder: then hooray 01.04.52 # toffe : it loads as a usb drive, and when the gigabeat boots, it starts to, then the error pops up, also i have the rockbox files where the PDF said to put them 01.05.45 # Bagder: Mine is done too 01.05.53 # pronto : you have the .rockbox directory and the rockbox.gigabeat ? 01.06.19 # toffe : yeah, and got the boot loader from the boot loader page 01.06.32 # generating the logs on the frontpage should be a _lot_ easier with svn too, you can request logs for intervals of commits, so just latest to latest-10 takes a second to run 01.06.41 # (you know this, i'm just praising svn) 01.07.09 # but good, nice and peachyu 01.07.16 # i think i'm sorted out and ready, then 01.07.36 # pronto: in the gbsystem/fwimg you have the fwimg01 file? (60K) 01.07.43 # yeah 01.08.07 # its 63.7 k, but yeah 01.08.30 # * amiconn scraps his extra cvs working copies 01.08.46 # pronto : what do you delete ? 01.09.11 # Can we remove the execute bit on files with svn? 01.09.24 # yes 01.09.27 # Bagder: Where did the www module go? Will there be a replacement? 01.09.37 # amiconn: it is on the same level as trunk 01.09.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.09.40 # linuxstb: already done 01.09.47 # toffe : well, i bascialy deleted everything from it, and put rockbox on it after it didn't work the 1st few times 01.10.04 # ?? 01.10.08 Quit fasmaie () 01.10.15 # "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/www" 01.10.17 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 01.10.21 # ah ok 01.10.32 # untill the website is fixed up.. is there an rss feed of commits? or is that off the same script as the www? 01.10.45 # there are commit mails 01.10.48 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 01.10.59 # to the same email as the cvs commits? 01.11.01 # JdGordon: you can use "svn log" 01.11.15 # and 'svn st -u' 01.11.16 # in the system directory do you have the fwimg00 and 02 ? 01.11.22 # it's a lot more helpful than "cvs log" 01.11.23 # nope 01.11.25 # pronto ^^ 01.11.29 # JdGordon: yes, same mailing list 01.11.38 # thanks 01.11.55 # so now both the rockbox-sf and rockbox-cvs lists have funny names :) 01.11.56 # pronto : this are from the original firmware, must be needed 01.12.07 Join Angry [0] (i=5438ccf4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2e971f963119f066) 01.12.53 # toffe: damn, know anywhere i could get them? the gigabeat site is useless 01.12.59 # pronto : just copy back the original sytem directory and change the fwimg01 01.13.13 # do you have windows ? 01.13.19 # yes 01.13.35 # pronto : do you have the gigaroom software installed ? 01.13.41 # toffe: yeah 01.14.16 # 2.02 01.14.27 # go to program files , find the gigaroom directory and you must have the firmware in it 01.14.44 # * preglow deletes his old tree 01.15.02 # don't forget that cvs diff doesn't copy over files that aren't cvs added... 01.15.08 # pronto : I can't tell you exactly, I don' have it on this computer 01.15.09 # linuxstb: sorry again for the delay. about a 2 week old official 01.15.26 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.15.33 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B97821.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.15.33 # toffe: thanks though 01.15.45 # Mikachu: Binary files are an issue too... 01.15.59 # indeed 01.16.06 # toffe : yep its under toshiba/gigabeat room 01.16.13 # * amiconn has a set of modified sudoku bitmaps hanging around.... 01.16.22 # linuxstb: still, i'm going to disappear for the best part of a day, if you need any more info, drop me a pm 01.16.26 # so don't be too quick deleting old trees 01.16.35 # pronto : copy the system back to the gigabeat 01.16.40 # 13 committers are added 01.16.48 # toffe: just did :D 01.17.13 # anyone reccommend a quick idios guide to svn for use newbies? 01.17.23 # pronto : then rename the fwimg01.dat to FWIMG01.DAT.ORIG 01.17.34 # http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ is a guide, but not that quick ;-) 01.17.37 # woo! rockbox works now 01.17.39 Join perl|wtf [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-88-127.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.17.42 # Has anyone tried out the IPL Loader 2 with a 5.5g iPod and Rockbox? 01.17.57 # pronto ;) 01.18.46 # wow, thats neat how the screen fades in and out 01.19.13 # you can adjust the timings for that too :) 01.19.21 # Zeraphe: Seeing as loader 2 isn't our software, this isn't really the best place to ask questions about whether it works, but I believe one built from source at least should. 01.19.47 # heh, i been waiting for about 9 months for this port :D , once i get money, im so donating 01.19.50 # Not on the 80GB I'd think 01.20.17 # Llorean, I was just curious. I don't need help, I just wanted to know if it had been done. 01.20.17 # Zeraphe: Ah, yes, only the 30gb 5.5G by the way. 01.20.25 # Sweet. 01.20.28 # Zeraphe: According to the svn logs, 5.5g (i.e. 2048-byte sector support) was added on 20 November 2006. 01.20.35 # Zeraphe: Still, iPodlinux's software should be asked about in their locations. 01.20.39 # Bagder: my build server is updated to SVN... but still throws those two stupid warnings :-P 01.20.46 # haha 01.21.10 # two minuspoints for lameness ;-) 01.21.16 # But would I get the same response in #ipodlinux, for asking about Rockbox interaction? 01.21.22 # pronto : try the wps on the wiki , there are really nice 01.21.41 # toffe: yeah i been looking though the wiki 01.21.47 # Zeraphe: You're asking about how loader2 works. Its *job* is to load firmware images. 01.22.22 # Zeraphe: The only bit about Rockbox in your question was if Rockbox works on 5.5G iPods. 01.25.17 Quit perldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.25.50 Join rkostynu [0] (n=chatzill@wnpgmb06dc1-15-183.dynamic.mts.net) 01.26.07 # cvs builds could possibly be called "commit builds" instead 01.26.52 # Bagder: How 'bout just "Latest Build" 01.27.01 # Llorean, I was asking about using the software together. I didn't know the subject was taboo. 01.27.03 # I thought we called the "bleeding edge" builds in some places? 01.27.14 # s/the/them/ 01.27.39 # Zeraphe: It's not taboo, but until Rockbox itself has actually started you're in Loader2, and so that software is their responsibility. If you use the Rockbox bootloader, then it's our responsibility, even if you're *only* using it to load iPL. 01.28.53 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net) 01.28.53 # linuxstb: I think "Bleeding Edge" sounds less trustworthy than simply "Latest" and maybe going with "Latest" and "Archived" would clear up some of the confusion overall. 01.29.16 # i think not sounding trustworthy is the idea with the name "bleeding edge" 01.29.34 # Zeraphe: According to the 20 November 2006 SVN commit message, loader2 can load Rockbox on a 5.5g.... You'll need to compile it yourself from SVN, and use a version of ipodpatcher from the Rockbox SVN to install it, using ipodpatcher [device] -ab loader.bin 01.30.06 # Mikachu: But that's the thing, on a reliability scale, CVS builds builds are about equal to daily. 01.30.16 # Llorean, I think you're taking this too seriously. This idle question demands no responsibility, I was just trying to gather information, and while it cannot be guaranteed that anyone in #ipodlinux uses Loader 2 to load Rockbox, it was a possibility that someone in #rockbox had had the inclination to try loading Rockbox with Loader 2. 01.30.22 # you should release a 2.99 or something :) 01.30.25 # on a good day 01.30.30 # I just wanted to mention that all the ones who've mailed me their passwords until now are added and now I'll go see my pillow 01.30.59 Quit SoapIsOutOfTown (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.31.00 # linuxstb, Thanks. Sounds like an ordeal. =p 01.31.06 # Zeraphe: But, it's more likely that people in iPodLinux use loader2. My point was that it's almost entirely irrelevant what it's being use to load if the question is about the loader. I had no way of knowing you weren't going to ask how to set it up, which is why I made the initial suggestion to ask there. 01.31.15 # Zeraphe: Just install the Rockbox bootloader, it's easier... 01.31.22 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.31.22 # It is much easier. 01.31.28 # linuxstb, I've already got it. 01.32.31 # linuxstb, I was considering switching, so that later I could tri-boot my iPod with all three firmwares, once the IPL team had fixed the disk issues with the 5.5gs. 01.32.47 # The Rockbox bootloader already supports triboot 01.33.09 # * Llorean points out that he already mentioned the fact that the Rockbox bootloader can load iPL. 01.33.14 # Plus you can start the IPL kernel from within Rockbox itself. 01.33.31 # Llorean, See?! Good thing I asked in here, or I'd have never known that. 01.34.22 # Llorean, I actually thought you were being hypothetical when you said that part. 01.34.52 # I was being hypothetical in that someone might ask about it (I can't imagine using the bootloader from Rockbox just for iPL) not about its capabilities. :) 01.35.06 # In fact, I *may* have been the first person to boot iPL with the RB Bootloader. I know I was first on the Nano at least. :) 01.35.06 # So, I'm allowed to ask how to load IPL with the Rockbox bootloader, right? 01.35.26 Join rkostynu_ [0] (n=chatzill@wnpgmb06dc1-33-208.dynamic.mts.net) 01.35.41 # Set up the ext2/ext3 partition it needs for its filesystem, put the files there, but the .bin fine in the root of your Fat32 partition named Linux.bin, and hold Play while booting (similar to holding Menu for the retail OS) 01.35.42 # iirc you put a linux.bin in / and then hold play 01.35.48 # what he said 01.35.56 # i'm sort of useless tonight, am i not? 01.36.04 # Not that it works on the 5,5g 3gb yet, apparently. 01.36.23 # Nor the 30GB. 01.36.28 # Oops. 01.36.38 # s/3/30 01.36.52 # Forgot that one of my zero keys doesn't work. 01.36.58 # nothing really works for the 5.5g yet, rockbox kind of limps along 01.37.29 Part LinusN 01.37.35 # I didn't use the original firmware for very long, I don't really notice. 01.37.57 # i booted the original firmware...twice 01.38.03 # Haha. 01.38.17 # dewdude_: Rockbox works as well on the 5.5G 30gb as it does on any other iPod, really. Better than some. 01.39.08 # I installed the build that makes use of the second CPU, that might be helping my performance. 01.39.16 Join safetydan [0] (i=cbca159f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8bc56e50bb829170) 01.39.17 # i haven't seen that build yet. 01.39.20 Quit Mouser_X3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.39.34 # i'm also running the daily from 010107 01.39.51 # http://www.sefia.ca/rockbox/ 01.39.53 # hah, i'm giving my friend crap because he failed his rockbox install on his ipod 01.40.01 # he didn't read the instructions properly 01.40.46 Part toffe 01.41.04 # meh...old builds 01.41.08 # It's only two commands... 01.41.28 # but omg you have type on the keyboard in a black window 01.41.59 # Kids today... 01.42.11 # they don't even know what a command prompt is called 01.42.13 Quit Angry ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.42.35 # * dewdude_ hands Mikachu a bash manual 01.43.00 # thanks but i use zsh 01.43.24 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@66.183.76.7) 01.43.25 # bash > zsh 01.43.30 # you use zsh but you still said "type on the keyboard in a black window" 01.43.54 # yes, because i was joking 01.44.11 # oh, my bad. 01.44.16 # and this is why the smiley was invented 01.44.21 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 01.44.25 # what smiley 01.44.35 # the 01.44.37 # there was no smiley after that denoting a joke 01.44.45 # Plus, 90% of installations occur in a black window anyway. 01.44.48 # If not more 01.44.52 # hah, he's complaining the step where you copy the .rockbox directory isn't visible enough 01.45.06 # You don't copy the .rockbox directory... 01.45.17 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 01.45.19 # i do 01.45.35 # ok, you uncompress the zip file onto the ipod 01.45.39 # i thought you were supposed to 01.45.41 # "unzip both rockbox.zip and rockbox-fonts.zip to the top-level (root) folder on your iPod." 01.46.25 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 01.46.46 # actually,k the manual doesn't say that 01.47.59 # No-one reads the manual though. :-) <-smiley 01.48.22 # ^ arrow 01.48.24 # doh 01.49.11 # not far enough :P 01.49.17 Join ashes [0] (n=ashes@modemcable085.56-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) 01.49.19 # my input line doesn't start where my nick ends 01.49.35 # easy calculation ;) 01.49.47 Quit rkostynu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.49.59 # With a proportional font? ;) 01.50.02 # yeah if you remember it's needed 01.50.43 # you miss out on a lot of ascii art if you don't use fixed width fonts :) 01.50.57 # * amiconn doesn't care about ascii art 01.51.01 # AT least not in irc 01.51.24 # good, then i don't have to include proportional fonts in my calculations 01.51.25 # * amiconn prefers readability 01.51.43 # q 01.51.47 Quit ryanl ("[BX] Wouldn't it be great if the dog could walk itself?") 01.53.40 # http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/ansi/png/4TERROR!.png 01.53.45 # * preglow loves ascii/ansi art :> 01.54.10 # heh 01.54.11 # wow 01.54.18 # someone spent a few minutes on that 01.54.51 Quit pronto () 01.54.59 # i've even coded a semi-functional viewer using sdl 01.55.07 # which i some day will finish.. 01.55.22 # http://mikachu.ath.cx/stewie.png 01.55.30 # i just use my terminal :P 01.55.37 # hahahaha 01.55.42 # | iconv -f cp437 -t UTF-8 usually works fine 01.55.52 # the font's a bithc, though 01.56.02 # good old 8x16 dos fonts are the nicest 01.56.37 # mostly because that's what people used when the art scene still thrived 01.56.45 # better? http://mikachu.ath.cx/stewie.png 01.57.10 # somewhat 01.57.46 # my viewer switches to fullscreen 640x480 at the moment, i think 01.57.46 Join Fegis [0] (i=user@cust.fiber-lan.vnet.lk.85.194.51.151.stunet.se) 01.57.52 # do you have the text files for these pictures? 01.57.56 # 720x400 is optimal, but not every monitor does that... 01.58.06 # Mikachu: somewhere, yes... 01.58.13 # the login one is cute 01.58.19 # it's very cute. jej 01.58.20 # heh <- 01.58.33 # ^ arrow 01.58.33 # there we go 01.58.35 # i've actually used that in the gui for a project i did 01.58.48 # haha 01.59.55 # this is the one i use now http://mikachu.ath.cx/login.png 01.59.56 # i've got a whole dvd full of artpack zips here, and 4terror!.ans is in one of them, but god knows which 02.00.16 # maybe i could try googling 02.00.36 # heh, only #rockbox.log 02.00.50 # haha 02.01.32 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.01.38 # ahh, it's in a phat pack 02.02.19 Join Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) 02.02.31 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 02.03.39 # http://artscene.textfiles.com/artpacks/1996/phat1296.zip 02.03.42 # there you go, it's in there 02.04.20 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 02.04.21 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 02.05.43 Join nixphoeni [0] (n=sappj@smtp.gentoo.org) 02.08.48 # Mikachu: http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/ansi/png/4TERROR!_9x16.png <- slightly different version, using the old default 9 width mode for max authenticity :> 02.09.00 Join fsdfsfddfas [0] (n=hen3rz@203-206-38-184.dyn.iinet.net.au) 02.10.31 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohannmi@cpe-71-72-99-25.columbus.res.rr.com) 02.11.54 Join webguest79 [0] (i=81ed3187@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a25da81ab9b1aca9) 02.11.59 Quit tamacracker (Remote closed the connection) 02.12.22 Quit webguest79 (Client Quit) 02.14.35 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 02.15.02 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.15.07 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p57B97B9D.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.17.02 # ok, I was looking at phalangees back wps theme and I wanted to put my own images in there. I understand how to do it and I can get everything but how to make the image look "frosty" for the regular menu screens. I did it a long time ago, but I have forgotten how 02.17.20 # JdGordon ? 02.18.26 Quit CpuWhiz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.18.42 # if you dont know what I mean by frosty I guess you could look at the preview pic for tabs (these are WPS for gigabeat) or just download the zip and look in the backdrops folder. 02.22.26 # anything special i need to do if i want to reinstall the bootloader...so i have to completely uninstall the old one or can i just install over the old one? 02.24.28 Quit alberink ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.24.35 # What do I co with svn that's the equivalent of the old rockbox-devel? 02.25.19 # dewdude_: If you installed the old one with -a, just do a ipodpatcher N -d, then -a the new one. 02.25.20 Join SoapIsOutOfTown [0] (n=Soap@231.sub-70-200-149.myvzw.com) 02.26.15 # Llorean, alrighty. danke. 02.26.46 # Llorean: just leech trunk 02.27.05 # svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk, afaik. that should be the same as rockbox-devel was before 02.28.06 Join SoapIsOutOfTown_ [0] (n=Soap@33.sub-70-200-178.myvzw.com) 02.28.15 # seems as though Rockbox updating has stalled... theres been no new updates to the CVS 02.28.18 Join homielowe_ [0] (n=chatzill@66.183.76.7) 02.28.26 # im assuming this new system that replaced CVS has its own changelog? 02.28.31 Quit SoapIsOutOfTown (Nick collision from services.) 02.28.35 Nick SoapIsOutOfTown_ is now known as SoapIsOutOfTown (n=Soap@33.sub-70-200-178.myvzw.com) 02.28.51 # preglow: Yeah, looks like it. Know how to check out to a specific folder, instead of a folder named "trunk", for future use? 02.29.01 Quit homielowe_ (Client Quit) 02.29.18 # /trunk/foldername i believe 02.30.00 Quit midgey () 02.31.00 # Llorean, svn co http://url/to/wheverer folder 02.31.11 # Llorean: just throw that name on 02.31.16 # what he said 02.31.37 # Thanks 02.31.59 # Last but not least, since I'm being all lazy and not reading any manual or help, equivalent to cvs up -dP? 02.32.16 # * puetzk tries to remember what that does 02.32.23 # generally one just uses bare svn up 02.32.37 # been too long since I used cvs anywhere 02.32.38 # Llorean: i don't think that's needed 02.32.52 # preglow: Ah, well then that makes me happy. 02.33.05 # Llorean, ah, -d is new dirs and -P is prune empty 02.33.09 # svn has saner defaults than cvs, but i am by no means completely certain, better ask bagder 02.33.09 # It seemed more logical to force your update to *not* create new files or trim old ones if you wanted to avoid it. 02.33.32 # the former is default (-N if you actually want a non-recursive update), the latter isn't necessary since folder removal is an actual operation 02.33.54 # Alright, thanks. :) 02.34.33 # what exactly is a "prebuild bootloader" 02.34.39 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 02.34.42 Join toffe [0] (n=toffe@ppp-71-140-91-209.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 02.34.49 # KCC: Do you mean "prebuilt"? 02.35.10 # I suppose? 02.35.22 # Then it simply means "one you don't need to compile yourself" 02.35.43 # I see 02.35.52 # so basically its like an InstallSheild kind of thing? 02.36.10 # i really dont see a problem with manually downloading the bootloader and putting it onto my 'Beat 02.36.14 # Llorean: -a really means "add or replace". So there shouldn't be any need to do -d. 02.36.29 Quit fsdfsfddfas (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.36.43 # linuxstb: So what would be a good standard, just svn up, or include -a? 02.37.02 # Llorean: I'm talking about ipodpatcher 02.37.03 # KCC: No, the one you're download is the prebuilt. You don't have to use GCC or anything to make it. 02.37.07 # linuxstb: Aaah. 02.37.28 # linuxstb: Yeah, my first thought was "-a alone should work" then "but -d couldn't hurt, and I'm not 100% sure" 02.37.59 # Hmm... the reference to the prebuilt bootloader not being available should probably be removed from the manual then 02.38.37 # KCC: Well, it wasn't available when that was written, but I believe it says "When it's available, it'll be here" and points to it? 02.38.39 # http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/doc/user/cvs-crossover-guide.html if nobody has posted it yet 02.38.52 # amiconn: preliminary testing of using first order filters for bass/treble control: results are decent/good enough for boosts, but for some reason, cuts are really ineffective... 02.39.17 # * dewdude_ does happy dance 02.39.28 # i can play mp3's without the gui locking up now! 02.40.10 # llorean: you're right, but the "not available" thing is unnecessarily confusing 02.40.56 # KCC: Well, it wasn't available when it was written. 02.41.01 # Unfortunately, I don't have access to change it. 02.41.05 Join jba [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 02.41.13 # I see, I see 02.41.14 # I was thinking about asking for it today, actually, for specifically this kind of situation. 02.42.22 # its a simple enough edit, just delete that entire line and leave the URL... would probably save some users alot of grief 02.42.35 # Are you talking about a change to the manual? 02.42.46 # yup 02.42.47 # Llorean is attempting to gain power to seed his coup. 02.42.50 # linuxstb: Aye, the Gigabeat bootloader is now available precompiled. 02.43.00 # There's a mention that it's not, but will be at a URL once it is. 02.43.04 # Point me in the right direction, I'll change it. 02.43.20 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-gigabeatf/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-110002.2.3 02.43.53 # linuxstb: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/manual/getting_started/gigabeat_install.tex 02.44.12 Quit Daishi (Remote closed the connection) 02.44.15 # The fixme in that file 02.44.22 Join [toffe] [0] (n=toffe@ppp-71-140-91-209.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 02.45.06 # So I'll just link to here? http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/gigabeat/ 02.45.14 # Aye 02.45.38 # thanks linuxstb 02.45.41 Part Fegis 02.45.49 # so listen, what happened to the daily builds? 02.46.00 Join pronto [0] (n=pronto18@pool-71-166-59-160.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) 02.46.01 # im expecting my 'beat any day now, and i wanna install a brand-spankin-new rockbox asap 02.46.08 # buttt... development has ceased on the CVS? 02.46.26 # KCC: see topic 02.46.28 # moving to subversion 02.46.31 # KCC: We're moving to a new method for storing the source. 02.46.38 # KCC: So, during that time, no changes get to happen. 02.46.44 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.46.59 # So, the Rockbox bootloader uses .ipod files. What does the other, unnamable bootloader use? 02.47.05 # Don't kill me Llorean 02.47.22 # Zeraphe: You can name it, but really, questions about it should be asked elsewhere. 02.47.25 # And it uses .bin files. 02.47.48 # * linuxstb makes his first svn commit 02.47.59 # * Llorean cheers. 02.48.12 # joy joy 02.48.14 # Hey, wait, Commits don't show up on the changelog on the front page, do they? 02.48.23 # right, so how can I check the changelog? 02.48.33 # I don't think so, but they're sent to the rockbox-cvs mailing list... 02.48.36 # or has rockbox programming ceased altogether with this transition? 02.48.37 # KCC: Wait until the new scripts are active. 02.49.29 # will do 02.50.31 # * puetzk pets trac 02.50.56 # People at work are usually rather distrubed when they realize I get all the commits in my RSS reader :-) 02.51.56 # but rockbox already has a wiki and issue tracker, so an all-in-one like that would be overkill 02.52.38 # * preglow pets svn 02.53.18 # are there any pictures of the gigabeat running rockbox around? 02.53.46 # preglow: Youtube has no videos for a gigabeat rockbox search. *gasps* 02.54.05 # preglow, if you want me to i could use my cell phone came 02.54.11 # just got rockbox on it today 02.55.28 # pronto: nothing important 02.56.16 Join scubacoles [0] (n=scoles@eth4699.sa.adsl.internode.on.net) 02.57.05 # hey scubacoles how goes 02.57.48 # yeah, OK...back at work which sucks, but it has the advantage of putting me back online again (no home internet) 02.58.45 Part pixelma 02.58.51 Quit toffe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.59.25 # there's an F20 on eBay about to sell for $150 03.00.03 # Thats eBay.com.au 5 minutes 03.00.40 # I'm tempted just to get myself a cradle 03.01.33 # * linuxstb is looking at the Archos av320 - arm7tdmi, a MAS3587F and a 2.5" hard disk... 03.01.53 # But they seem impossible to find... 03.01.57 # Hehe, hwcodec an an arm cpu 03.02.05 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 03.02.05 # *and an 03.02.21 # Yes, something to make good use of the PCM codec.... 03.02.51 # Or use the arm for video decoding and let the mas play the mpeg audio track in mpegplayer 03.03.13 # Indeed. Although the CPU also has a DSP. 03.03.16 Nick perl|wtf is now known as perldiver (n=say@cpe-66-65-88-127.nyc.res.rr.com) 03.03.36 # Some info is here: http://www.archopen.org/tiki-index.php?page=AV3xx_Chipset 03.03.41 # Hmm, but that's this closed ti crap iirc? 03.04.23 # There are some datasheets linked to from that page... 03.04.30 Quit fasmaie () 03.04.53 # But yes, I expect that it isn't as open as we would want. 03.05.24 # hardware usb-ata bridge, familiar radio chip 03.05.32 # <[toffe]> scubacoles : look more on eBay, you should find some complete gigabeat for less than 150$ 03.05.39 # 8MB ram, not too bad 03.06.47 # ebay germany has one 03.06.59 # <[toffe]> I just got a F41 (the size of the f10 but with a 40 gb hd) for 30$ 03.07.07 # And there's one on ebay.com... 03.07.16 # (who will ship to the UK) 03.07.27 # did they do HWcodec for power consumption reasons? 03.07.57 # [toffe] 03.07.58 # wow 03.08.00 # where? 03.08.05 # linuxstb: The german offer also ships to uk 03.08.06 # spdif in/out as well... 03.08.13 # http://cgi.ebay.de/Archos-AV320-MP4-MP3-Foto-Video-Multimedia-Player_W0QQitemZ170066942785QQihZ007QQcategoryZ8267QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 03.08.18 Join hoffman [0] (n=nothing@75.35.37.28) 03.08.21 # SoapIsOutOfTown: Maybe they had some MAS chips already around, so it was cheaper for licensing. 03.08.29 # hi 03.09.13 # im a noob to rockbox and just wonder if there is an auto-lock function when playing music? 03.09.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.09.53 # auto-lock? 03.10.02 # because after a while when im in the current playing window all the buttons locks/holds and i cant do anything except restart it, but i can still hear music 03.10.08 # [toffe] not in Australia... there is another currently only $12 but with 5 days to go, it'll get up to $150 too. 03.10.24 # does anyone know how to disable the lock? 03.10.55 # what player? 03.11.00 # There is no lock 03.11.02 # ipod video 03.11.09 # ok 03.11.10 # I'd guess it's the first-keypress-enables-backlight setting 03.11.23 # amiconn: Yes, that's coming up on ebay.co.uk as well... 03.11.49 # because after a while playing music, no one of the buttons work, except restarting the whole thing 03.12.04 # (and it's not the hold button) 03.12.17 # hoffman: Try disabling the first keypress for backlight setting 03.12.34 # ok 03.13.10 # <[toffe]> scubacoles : not gigabeat X on eBay australia ? 03.14.16 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 03.14.17 # they should make the scrolling as it is in the normal ipod firmware 03.14.25 # so u can scroll faster 03.14.47 # hoffman: Do you know how Apple did it quickly? 03.14.55 # nope 03.15.07 Join redwoo1 [0] (n=spammish@c-69-251-225-104.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 03.15.30 # Well, until someone does, we just have to do the best that we can. 03.15.55 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 03.15.57 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 03.16.08 # [toffe]: 9 F series (3xF40, 2xF60, 4xF20), and 1 X30. Even broken iPods go for $100ish here so $150 for a working F20 is a bargain!! 03.20.22 Join jba_ [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 03.24.25 # * Mouser_X has grown tired of reading the logs... 03.24.41 # Has anything worth mentioning happened today, that I should look for? 03.26.09 Part Llorean 03.27.15 Quit jba (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.27.18 # Mouser_X: SVN is open for business, but not all of the associated scripts are working yet. 03.27.35 # So we have daily builds, but not the "cvs builds". 03.28.18 Join l_r [0] (n=l_r@adsl-ull-211-148.46-151.net24.it) 03.28.20 # hello 03.28.37 # does rockbox support .mpc decoding (musepack) on ipod nano? 03.32.35 # oh yes 03.33.21 Quit Alonea ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 03.33.39 # SoapIsOutOfTown, are you talking to me? 03.33.49 # yes 03.34.06 # So would anyone else be interested in an AV320/340 port? 03.34.47 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@66.183.76.7) 03.35.30 Quit dan_a (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 03.37.07 # linuxstb: Thanks. Glad to hear it! It's not a big use to me, (I don't have a build environment, or even a player yet), but it's definatly good to hear. 03.39.40 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) 03.40.02 Quit jba_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.40.33 # linuxstb: those are the ones with a 2.5" HD right/ 03.42.17 # scorche: Yes, and the same MAS as the Archos Recorders and Ondio FM, plus an ARM CPU... 03.43.34 Quit hoffman () 03.43.40 # so it would be a hybrid of SW and HW decoding? 03.43.53 # Yes. 03.44.11 # I guess MP2/MP3 would be done on the MAS, other formats on the ARM with the PCM codec. 03.44.11 # sounds like just what i have been looking for 03.44.39 # i will have to browse ebay a bit then 03.44.43 # * Nimdae looks up what this is 03.44.51 # Don't buy mine... 03.45.41 # is it like a standard 2.5" drive? 03.45.49 # heh....we might have to collaborate then ;) 03.45.51 # Yes, 9.5mm 03.46.03 # so you could easily increase the capacity...... 03.46.10 Part safetydan 03.46.22 # Indeed. Up to 160GB I think... 03.46.28 # which is what i have been aiting for 03.46.44 # the only thing that prevents me from upgrading from my v1 to a new device 03.46.50 # And it's supported by archopen, so lots of source available for us to copy/paste... 03.46.51 # well, new-ish in this case 03.47.22 # hmm, a small suggestion for the page that is used to name/rename things. (this is on gigabeat) use the volume button to move the cursor. 03.47.46 # You mean the virtual keyboard? 03.48.24 Part lavid 03.48.27 # yeah, that page. the a button is esc, power is confirm, and menu is backspace. 03.48.50 # but i think it might be nice if the volume buttons could be used to move the cursor left and right 03.49.34 # that would be sweet 03.50.09 # so you dont have to delete the whole thing if you needed to change a character at the beginning. it was just a thought 03.50.15 # right 03.50.43 Join JdGordon_ [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.50.51 Quit BHSPitMonkey ("Leaving") 03.51.21 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-69-152-153.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.53.45 # i wish i never learned about computers 03.53.50 # they frustrate me so much 03.54.58 # they do indeed. I remember the time I had to rewrite the vista boot file and I kept getting bad file or command even though it was the right command. I eventually got it worked out. I spend quite a lot of time fixing them. 03.55.27 # I try to think of it as a puzzle and I generally like puzzles...but like all of them, they get to the point where you want to kill it 03.55.50 # well, it is a puzzle 03.55.55 # it's a puzzle you never finish 03.56.05 # and some days you just want to light on fire and watch it burn 03.56.46 # heh. well, I have certainly got quite good at it. I am quite used to reformatting now. 03.57.32 # reformatting is what you do when you're not good at it ;) 03.58.19 # well, sometimes reformatting is muuuch faster. That and when you are going through random os's all the time. Or you really screw up and get a virus from hell. 03.59.23 # but usually I dont have to. Now if everyone else would stop asking me to fix their computer all would be well 04.00.48 Join adam1302 [0] (i=cbab4195@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-237d1340a73a9014) 04.01.08 Quit adam1302 (Client Quit) 04.01.09 Quit JdGordon_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.02.04 Join JdGordon_ [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 04.08.57 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.09.32 Join tamitall [0] (n=tam@gw.nettam.com) 04.10.53 # hey alonea, fix my comp? 04.11.03 # I've loaded rockbox on my iriver H10 20gb, but it appears not to be working. I can't get it to connect via USB, and none of my music is showing up. I can get the splash screen, but then it returns to a menu that says "Text" and "rockbox". Anyone have a suggestion? I can still emergency connect it to swap the boot loaders around. 04.12.09 # ....*big sigh* very funny. unless you actually have a problem? though I am currently on the phone with customer support for my 360... 04.12.09 Quit JdGordon_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.12.19 # tamitall: That's not a menu, that's the file browser. 04.12.43 # hahaa, im good for now bud 04.12.44 # linuxstb- fair enough. Am I just not understanding what to do past that? 04.12.49 # but if i ever need anything... haha 04.13.06 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 04.13.13 # whats wrong with the 360, btw? 04.13.14 # tamitall: I don't know how USB mode works on the H10, but you just drag and drop your music files to the disk, and play them from the file browser. 04.14.01 # ok, there's a folder named 'Music' with 18gb of music in it, that doesn't show up in the file browser 04.14.22 # It's probably hidden - you need to enable the "show all files" menu option. 04.14.35 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.14.44 Join CelticSoul [0] (n=celticso@dyn-88-122-17-128.ppp.tiscali.fr) 04.15.10 # * linuxstb goes to sleep 04.15.31 # ahah! 04.15.33 # thank you :) 04.17.50 Quit l_r (Remote closed the connection) 04.22.04 Quit SoapIsOutOfTown (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.22.06 Join trypt0_ [0] (i=trypt0@ip68-8-222-147.sd.sd.cox.net) 04.23.10 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.26.15 # oh, i keep getting the 3 red lights of death 04.28.33 Join phrozen77 [0] (n=phrozen7@pD9EC6AC2.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.28.48 # KCC: and it seems to do it randomly...i just turn it off and back on and it will work. bah. anyway. 04.33.50 Quit jaebird ("Leaving") 04.35.06 Join jaebird [0] (n=jae@53-89.netblk-69-41-89.coolaccess.net) 04.35.13 # 3 red lights of death? 04.38.26 # basically think window blue screen of death. It usually means there is hardware failure somewhere...the ring of light will display 3/4 red lights 04.40.04 Quit trypt0 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.44.21 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 04.47.13 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 04.50.24 Join webguest16 [0] (i=8ed9c73f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d995f607d62e0f5d) 04.50.24 Join God_Eater [0] (i=bryan@host-83-146-12-205.bulldogdsl.com) 04.50.48 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohannmi@cpe-71-72-99-25.columbus.res.rr.com) 04.51.48 Quit homielowe ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 04.51.48 Quit webguest16 (Client Quit) 04.52.39 Join nico342_ [0] (n=nicolas@142-217-199-63.telebecinternet.net) 04.53.53 Quit pronto () 04.57.44 Join perl|wtf [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-88-127.nyc.res.rr.com) 05.01.06 # goffa: how's the new F60? 05.01.25 # loving it 05.01.36 # 9500 tracks on the one player :) 05.01.47 Quit Nibbier (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.02.08 # my friend's wife is being indecicive 05.02.14 # What sort of playing time are you getting 05.02.23 # haven't let it drain 05.02.24 # I know how that can get 05.02.29 # No hassle 05.02.35 # but i went 5 hours and it went down to 50% 05.02.44 # but battery reporting isn't accurate so i dunno total 05.02.55 # Not bad...how does that compare to the F40? 05.03.32 # Probably in the same range, I guess 05.03.52 # yeah.. i'd say its on par 05.04.20 # gotthardt reported 13+ hours of playing time 05.04.23 # seems a little better.. but then that's because the lcd code is better 05.04.25 Quit perldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.04.34 # i'd buy that 05.04.55 # Well good for you anyway 05.04.59 Join gotthardt [0] (n=chatzill@71.56.149.94) 05.05.06 # I'm green with envy, of course 05.05.06 # yeah i'm happy 05.05.10 # he he he 05.05.18 # well hoping to remedy that somewhat 05.05.38 # Yes 05.05.45 Quit rkostynu_ ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 05.06.00 # Wife's gift is coming in tomorrow...am waiting apprehensively 05.06.11 Part nico342_ ("Ex-Chat") 05.07.30 # yeah... i'm sure that's eating at you 05.08.36 # OH well, any idea when SVN will be ready to go? 05.08.45 # wish i knew 05.08.47 # but hoping soon 05.08.59 Quit GodEater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.09.09 # at least its not a feature freeze 05.09.19 # well a long term one 05.09.29 # Yes 05.09.45 # first one lasted a few months 05.09.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.10.04 # Wow, I wasn't aware of that 05.10.44 Quit Doomed ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 05.11.31 # hey goffa 05.11.35 Nick perl|wtf is now known as perldiver (n=say@cpe-66-65-88-127.nyc.res.rr.com) 05.11.39 # yeah? 05.11.58 # hows things 05.12.07 # good 05.12.08 # the new player? 05.12.22 # liking that like 9500 songs on one player 05.12.29 # oh nice 05.12.52 # yeah.. like 1/6 of my collection :D 05.13.45 # but that's plenty for a road trip 05.13.51 # more than enough 05.14.50 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 05.15.07 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 05.15.12 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 05.16.25 # do you think rockbox not saving treble/bass settings is a problem? 05.16.41 # i don't use eq.. so its not for me :) 05.16.49 # but i could see it being a prob for others 05.17.07 # its not really eq you know 05.17.26 # its just basic sound settings most of the users tweak 05.17.52 # yeah 05.18.00 # well i leave mine flat 05.18.05 # is what i mean 05.18.12 # but that's hardware eq from what i understand 05.19.20 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@66.183.76.7) 05.20.35 # it is 05.23.23 # Does Rockbox support symlinks? 05.23.52 # i want to say no 05.23.56 # but am unsure 05.24.05 # I wanted you to say yes... 05.24.09 # Heh. 05.24.14 # One way to find out, I guess. 05.24.16 # well i figured :) 05.26.51 # Hmmm. Apparently FAT doesn't, so it's a moot point. 05.27.16 # ah... one instance where i'm not happy i'm right 05.27.37 # but then i guess i don't really care all that much 05.28.04 # Haha. It would make it easier to dual boot with Apple and Rockbox. 05.28.06 Quit DMJC-L (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.28.24 # yeah... got everything but apple here :) 05.28.45 # perldiver: The treble/bass resetting would be an irritation 05.28.50 # Which iPod? 05.28.58 Join DMJC-L [0] (n=DMJC-L@122-49-170-53.ip.adam.com.au) 05.29.21 # fasmaie well its present 05.29.30 # prepare to get irritated :P 05.29.44 # Yup 05.29.50 # * Mouser_X rarely uses treble/bass. 05.29.56 # How about the EQ, does that work? 05.29.59 # of course 05.30.16 # And save settings? 05.30.17 # so i set my eq the way i dont have treble/bass with 05.30.24 # use* 05.30.32 # yes it saves 05.30.34 # Ok, that would work for me 05.30.47 # Thanks 05.32.19 # and you can also save a cfg file with all your EQ settings 05.32.30 # which you can recall after reset etc 05.32.52 # but people are complaining about bass/treble 05.33.10 # That's 'cause they just like to complain. 05.33.14 # ;P 05.34.13 Join Abcminiuser [0] (n=dean_cam@ppp36FB.dsl.pacific.net.au) 05.36.16 Quit scubacoles ("Leaving") 05.37.13 # wow 05.37.19 # rockbox just locked up doing a rewind 05.37.27 # D: 05.37.35 # oh wow 05.37.39 # that was weird 05.37.49 # i pressed the left to rewind again, it continued rewinding 05.37.53 # i let go and it played 05.37.54 # wtf 05.44.48 # WTF indeed. 05.45.56 # wow 05.46.12 # i went to rewind again (seek backwards), and when i let go it went to the beginning of the playlist 05.46.45 # What platform, out of interest? 05.46.57 # iPod, as I recall. 05.47.05 # ipod 5g 05.47.36 # I've had no problems with my 4G after using the CPU3 patch 05.47.47 # WIthout it, my 4G would lock up quite frequently 05.48.10 # cpu3? 05.48.20 # i'm using the latest cop patch 05.48.28 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 05.48.44 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A95A04.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.48.46 # what's the fs# of the patch you're using? 05.48.52 # It's a patch that disabled CPU frequency scaling 05.48.58 Quit Zeraphe ("Read error: 40OZ (Connection reset by beer)") 05.48.59 # ah 05.49.05 # I can find a link if you really want, but it's a tiny patch 05.49.15 # no need, i know how to manually disable it 05.49.15 Quit DMJC-L (Connection timed out) 05.49.15 # Works great, although it knackers the battery life 05.49.26 # i actually have 2 firmwares for testing with it disabled 05.49.37 # I've been wondering why scaling the CPU locks it up 05.49.42 # but it's mostly for testing the cop patch 05.49.46 # Surely it would just slow down the interface/ 05.49.54 Join DMJC-L [0] (n=DMJC-L@122-49-170-53.ip.adam.com.au) 05.50.03 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.50.05 # it might be due to the coprocessor not being properly worked with 05.50.33 # I thought the iPods' coprocessor wasn't used at all yet? 05.50.49 # it's been found that it was running even if it wasn't used 05.51.10 # In any case, why would slowing the main processor cause freezes at random intervals? 05.51.16 # As opposed to just lagging? 05.51.35 # well, the coprocessor and its interaction with the main cpu is still a bit of a mystery 05.51.53 # goffa 05.52.00 # yeah? 05.52.04 Join rushfan [0] (n=rushfan@adsl-65-43-160-11.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net) 05.52.05 # do you have porblems with long accessing times? 05.52.14 # So does anyone know how close they are to getting rockbox running on the 80gb? 05.52.15 # Incidentally, what type of processor is the coprocessor? Main's an ARM, I know that... 05.52.16 # with f60 fulled to the brim 05.52.27 # filled 05.52.33 # haven't encountered any 05.52.48 # whats the booting time? 05.52.49 # it's really just a second cpu 05.52.54 # same 05.53.08 # going to file browser can take 1 second 05.53.13 # at times 05.53.14 # the pp chip is a dual core chip 05.53.20 # but i don't have dircache on 05.53.21 # i have an f60 right here, its really spinning that hdd up 05.53.38 # obviously making a playlist takes a while 05.53.40 # i dont have any problems with f20 05.53.48 Nick Rick is now known as Gibbed (i=rick@unaffiliated/Rick) 05.53.48 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-0-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.54.16 # why you're not using the dir cache? 05.54.25 # laziness 05.54.31 # haven't turned it on.. lol 05.54.35 # aha 05.57.41 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 05.58.07 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 05.58.14 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 05.58.16 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 05.58.50 Part rushfan 06.00.25 Quit Juice^ ("- nbs-irc 2.0 - www.nbs-irc.net -") 06.06.10 Quit relaxed (Remote closed the connection) 06.06.24 Quit Abcminiuser ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 06.07.47 Part redwoo1 06.08.15 Join dioz [0] (n=dioz@69-11-10-122.regn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 06.09.05 # i have all my mp3's broken up into /music/artist - album/ is there any way to make it shuffle through all the different directories ? without making a playlist so when i shuffle it'll just... shuffle through them all ? 06.09.32 # dioz: go to root 06.09.36 # make playlist from there 06.09.57 # oh.. and make sure you have the recurse subdirectory option on 06.11.33 # hmm 06.12.03 # that's what i do 06.17.49 # so what is the 'database' then ? 06.18.53 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 06.20.31 Join am4nda [0] (n=am4nda@161.57.219.156) 06.21.20 # dioz, the database is a fake tree structure based on ID3/vorbistag/etc info 06.21.21 # does anyone here know if rockbox can be used with the sony nw-e507 walkmans? 06.23.00 # am4nda: well, is it in the list of supported targets? 06.23.21 # no it isnt, but I figured it didnt hurt to ask 06.23.53 # well, if it isnt in that list, then why bother? 06.25.17 # mmmmhmmmmmmm 06.25.31 Quit DMJC-L (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.25.54 # because it might be similar to some of the ones on there and someone might pick up on that and tell me how to give it a shot. I'm taking my answer is "no" then? 06.26.18 Join DMJC-L [0] (n=DMJC-L@219-90-173-128.ip.adam.com.au) 06.26.21 # of course 06.28.02 # oooh 06.28.11 # hmm database 06.28.14 # right on 06.29.37 # hah only down side i see to this is... anyone else who picks up my ipod will have no fucking clue what to do with it 06.29.50 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.31.19 # AFLAC 06.31.57 Quit am4nda (Remote closed the connection) 06.41.45 Join Llorean [0] (n=Llorean@cpe-66-69-210-194.austin.res.rr.com) 06.44.18 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B17EF8.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.51.40 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54967535.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.57.36 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 06.59.24 Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m204.net81-65-15.noos.fr) 07.00.57 # hey linuxstb ^_^ 07.01.04 # omg, scorche! 07.01.47 Join TerrorByte [0] (i=4889ede5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ginnypig.net/x-48e4e96c82ff8150) 07.01.58 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.03.39 Part TerrorByte 07.06.18 Quit My_Sic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.08.52 Part Llorean 07.09.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.11.02 Join CpuWhiz [0] (n=eric@cpe-66-87-222-218.co.sprintbbd.net) 07.15.11 Quit Mouser_X3 (Nick collision from services.) 07.15.51 Quit Alonea ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") 07.17.23 Join gopp [0] (i=party@ool-43557d40.dyn.optonline.net) 07.17.24 # hmm 07.17.34 # will rockbox work in my iphone 07.17.35 Join jba_ [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 07.17.41 # I just will preorder one 07.17.44 # sure 07.17.47 # scubacoles, did you get the f20? 07.17.47 # cool 07.17.47 # preoder 2 07.17.51 # yea 07.17.56 # from some cingular dealer 07.18.04 # as soon as they get them in 07.18.16 # I told if I could get rockbox to work on the apple iphone 07.18.18 # well Id idn't say that 07.18.21 # but that my plan 07.18.35 # if you do the port 07.18.38 # im sure it will 07.18.45 # I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. 07.18.54 # :( 07.19.43 # but jokes aside, how can you ask a question about rockbox port for a device that oneone even held yet and wont until june 07.19.57 # hmm 07.19.59 # just asking in theory 07.20.07 # will rockbox or could rockbox be supported 07.20.11 Quit gotthardt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.20.18 # as I seen in your ipod port most or all ipods are supporte 07.20.19 # d 07.20.50 # being most or allipods are supported, I assume using iduction logic, that this ipod, will be supported 07.21.03 # its called iphone 07.21.17 # catch a difference? 07.21.18 # but I wanted to be use if my logic held any wieght by asking the authority (professional) at rockbox themself. 07.21.22 # The hardware is almost garnteed to be different. 07.21.41 # but it has ipod features granted it added a phone to it 07.21.45 # As such, I see it very unlikely that they share enough resemblence for Rockbox to work on it. 07.21.55 # *garanteed. 07.22.03 # well would could argue it an ipod with a phone 07.22.17 # Features are completely unrelated to whether or not Rockbox will run on it. 07.22.20 # It's all hardware. 07.22.26 # The hardware is different. 07.22.41 # its a phone running os x that has playing mp3 files as one of the features 07.22.49 # Therefore, Rockbox has *very* little chance of running on it. 07.22.50 # the iphone has already been released 07.22.56 # so yeah id argue, its not an ipod 07.23.02 # ...by cisco 07.24.31 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@rue92-3-82-232-48-241.fbx.proxad.net) 07.24.41 Part kaaloo 07.25.22 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 07.26.37 Quit DMJC-L (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.26.48 # scorche apple is trying to make cisco to drop the name now 07.27.00 Join DMJC-L [0] (n=DMJC-L@219-90-224-84.ip.adam.com.au) 07.27.06 # I tought I was going to ask my geek friends 07.27.12 # didn't cisco and linkys come out with iphone 07.27.21 # how di dapple get the rights to iphone 07.27.45 # do you think the iphone will run any thing else beside osx 07.28.06 # are thier any cellphones that run anything beside the firmware and os from cell provider 07.28.25 # what do you mean? 07.28.38 # there are windows CE phones, palm os phones, symbian phones, etc 07.28.55 # yes 07.29.05 # but those are defualt oem os / firmware 07.29.11 # I mean like 07.29.23 # are thier any phones that people have hacked thier own os 07.29.27 # and still make work as a cellphone 07.29.47 # people have made linux work on the palm ones and some of the windows ce ones 07.30.03 # and still be able to dial out 07.30.16 # no idea if they still can function as a phone though 07.31.17 # $600 for 8gb, no 3g, no wifi music syncing, no expandable mem and no removable battery is a bit harsh 07.32.20 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 07.33.26 # yea 07.33.32 # hmm but it edge 07.33.35 Join webguest29 [0] (i=180869c6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bf9228c0036db693) 07.33.37 # edge is like 3g 07.33.48 Quit webguest29 (Client Quit) 07.33.52 # and hmm can you synch via bt 07.33.59 # I will wait for third version 07.34.00 # of this device 07.34.05 # I never get apple first version 07.35.33 # if it runs osx then can it run skype 07.35.36 # for osx 07.35.44 # or any of the open source voice programs 07.35.50 # thus no need for cingular 07.36.05 # still need cingular's connection 07.36.22 # even for wifi 07.36.23 Nick w1ll14m|away is now known as w1ll14m (n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl) 07.36.32 # darn 07.36.37 # gopp: i don't think the will put osx on it...... 07.36.39 # you wont have contant wifi whereever you go... 07.36.50 # the will have their own CE version ...... 07.36.54 # I wonder if beachball would occur while trying to make a phone call 07.37.02 # just like pocketpc.... 07.37.08 # w1ll14m it runs on osx 07.37.12 # stevejob said so 07.37.14 # so does the webpage 07.37.33 # it would suck to have a beachball spnining while trying to call 911 07.37.34 # gopp: it does? or is it a portable package of osx ? 07.37.55 # not sure 07.37.56 # but it is osx 07.38.05 # well obvilous is portable 07.38.07 # but it osx 07.38.22 # it using widget as it ui 07.38.52 # gopp: hmmm they should publish more info..... i believe they have atleast a different platform 07.39.07 # hmm san fran know has free wifi city wide 07.39.18 # so if it's possible to run own applications you have to crosscompile them ..... 07.39.31 # w1ll14m I think it may run xscale 07.39.32 # well gotta go to work :) cya guys...... 07.39.34 Nick w1ll14m is now known as w1ll14m|away (n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl) 07.39.37 # or what ever intell calls it 07.39.40 # k good night 07.39.55 # ehhh work .... 07.40.03 # its 07:39 am here :) 07.40.27 Quit dioz ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.1-final for the Sony Playstation today!") 07.40.43 # hmm 07.40.44 # Operating system OS X 07.40.44 # Storage 4GB or 8GB 07.40.49 # http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/specs.html 07.40.54 # oh 5 hour battery 07.40.57 # oh that sucks 07.41.07 # Up to 16 hours Audio playback 07.41.18 # hmm won't say cpu 07.41.32 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 07.41.41 # oh shit 07.41.41 # This device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained. 07.41.44 Join cynicalliberal [0] (n=chatzill@24.7.158.200) 07.43.56 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.44.11 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 07.44.13 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.46.26 # linuxstb: (if you read the log) I have an AV320 for you 07.46.40 # ping me later 07.49.23 Quit Zagor ("Leaving") 07.53.02 Join BiptoN [0] (n=BiptoN@dsl092-050-020.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 07.55.58 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host204-173-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.02.48 Join GodEater [0] (i=bryan@host-83-146-14-177.bulldogdsl.com) 08.08.35 Join GodEater_ [0] (i=bryan@host-83-146-15-79.bulldogdsl.com) 08.08.40 Quit jba_ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 08.09.56 Quit DMJC-L (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.10.23 Join DMJC-L [0] (n=DMJC-L@219-90-162-22.ip.adam.com.au) 08.19.36 Quit God_Eater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.22.10 Part [toffe] 08.25.45 Quit GodEater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.26.52 # * JdGordon uses crazy voodoo to get Nico_P in the channel.... 08.35.04 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 08.36.47 # How do I check the binary flag with svn? 08.37.27 # It seems 2 simulator bitmaps are missing the binary flag: UI-e200.bmp and UI-ifp7xx.bmp 08.37.33 # "svn propget svn:mime-type [file]" 08.40.28 # Hmm, those 2 don't show up in the list. ALl others are application/octet-stream 08.41.00 # you can set it with propset and then commit 08.41.15 # My local copies aren't working (cygwin) 08.41.19 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 08.41.23 # So if I commit they won't work for anyone 08.41.29 # ah true 08.41.52 # ...and I already scrapped my cvs working copies 08.41.59 # hehe 08.42.32 # Hmm, my linux box should have working versions 08.42.55 # some of the bmps are marked +x as well 08.43.10 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 08.44.03 # Hmm, the 2 bmps can be displayed on my linux box, but they're not correct 08.45.06 # morning guys 08.45.13 # I figure we should make them binary first, then restore working ones from cvs 08.45.30 # AH, true 08.45.47 # And cvs can still be checked out... 08.46.06 # yes 08.46.26 # or we can pick it from an older daily build 08.46.30 # * amiconn checks out uisimulator 08.46.44 # How? 08.46.57 # they should be in the source tarball 08.47.33 # I got a question regarding the presently stalled settings patch. The reason its stalled is because maybe 90% of the settings do something after returning from the setting screen and moving this all is boring and slow work. Now, every time the setting screen exits settings_apply() is run, so is it OK to just put all the code run after the setting screen into settings_apply() ? 08.48.23 Join bluebrother [0] (i=98sTLL9O@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 08.49.32 # Bagder: can you put http://mikachu.ath.cx/Debian-3.7z onto download.rockbox.org please? 08.52.13 # hmm, some manual builds are broken. Seems to be corrupted png files 08.55.29 Join combrains [0] (n=combrain@222-155-32-3.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) 08.55.29 # * amiconn made his very first svn commit :) 08.55.32 # scorche: will do! 08.55.52 # bluebrother: probably the same kind of error amiconn is working with 08.56.20 # it also seems to like messing up with the file permissions ... I get this strangely for parts of my builds 08.56.21 # noone wants to comment? :( 08.56.32 # JdGordon: Most probably not. Most things which aren't done live while changing the setting are costly, otherwise they would be live 08.56.38 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-69-152-153.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.56.52 # this question's probably been asked about a million times in the past 24 hrs but ill ask it anyway... 08.57.01 # hows the transition to SVN going? 08.57.47 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 08.57.48 Join GodEaterWeb [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9c61ea49ed5c09a9) 08.57.52 # amiconn: yeah, thats what i was thinking, but the way its setup is costly stuff (like wps loading and such) are skipped anyway 08.57.57 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.58.05 # oh how embarrassment 08.59.13 # hehe 08.59.26 # I take it that Dan on the list was you then ? :) 08.59.53 # safetydan: ouch 09.00.06 # ;-) 09.00.11 # that's a me :) 09.00.28 # hopefully, you dont use that password anywhere else ;) 09.00.34 # yeah 09.00.36 # luckily it was randomly generated 09.00.38 # * Bagder hands safetydan the funny hat with the "it was me" sign to wear 09.00.39 # good ol' pwgen 09.00.58 Join ender [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 09.01.14 # scorche: done! 09.01.38 # thanks 09.01.49 # * safetydan wonders where the Internet's undo button is 09.02.24 # thats coming in web 3.0 09.03.42 # Bagder: know where that third mirror comes from? 09.03.46 # hmm. How do I replace an ascii-conversion broken image file? Simply check in a new version? 09.04.03 # scorche: no idea 09.04.29 # * Bagder removed debian-1.6z 09.04.33 # 7z 09.04.53 # * Bagder plans to offer the dl site with rsync 09.04.58 # also, if anyone can check the image, it would be nice =) 09.05.03 # to offer others to do complete mirrors 09.05.21 # i tested it on my own machine of course, but it *could* be different on others... 09.05.49 # especially the network connections 09.06.35 # the .m3u8 playlists rockbox writes, can they be handled like a regular ascii file? 09.08.01 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.08.05 # JdGordon: they are simply text files with utf8 encoding 09.09.32 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.09.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.13.26 Join petur [0] (i=d4efd6a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-02f432981cc7a2ca) 09.13.34 Quit GodEaterWeb ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.13.51 Join GodEaterWeb [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-facda7b56d930779) 09.14.36 # Bagder: I remember having read sth about pre-setting mime types based on extension in svn 09.14.38 # * petur congratulates safetydan :p 09.14.59 # ok, there are 3 files broken by a conversion to ascii: ss-doom-220x176x16.png, ss-doom-160x128x2.png and ss-minesweeper-160x128x16.png which seem to have broken the daily manuals 09.15.01 # Since BMPs are so common in our repository, I think it'd make sense to preset a mime type for them 09.15.10 # got to go now so I can't look into it now. 09.15.16 # amiconn: I agree 09.15.27 # add png if that is not predefined 09.15.37 # * bluebrother leaves for some while 09.16.38 # these errors are not because of that though 09.16.51 # these are because cvs didn't have these marked binary 09.17.06 # afaiu 09.17.45 # has anyone got a unicode playlist with non-ascii filenames they can send me plase? 09.17.49 # please* 09.19.19 # * amiconn also wonders whether it would be better to set the real mime type instead of just application/octet-stream 09.19.26 # cvs didn't know about mime types 09.19.40 Join jba_ [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 09.20.02 # I guess that depends on what viewvc does with the mime-type 09.20.18 # since for svn itself it doesn't matter if the file is bmp or png etc 09.22.54 Join RedZZR [0] (n=chatzill@81-86-2-113.dsl.pipex.com) 09.22.55 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.23.16 # Bagder: when the changelog script gets fixed for svn, would it be possible to change fs#xxxx to a link? 09.23.21 Join scorche [0] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 09.23.32 Join TCK [0] (n=hahano@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 09.23.32 # everything's possible of course! ;-) 09.24.30 # really?!? Can we travel into the future to the point where we've fixed the 80GB iPod then please ? ;-) 09.24.53 # sure 09.24.55 Quit TCK (Client Quit) 09.24.55 # GodEaterWeb: didnt you see the message? it was fixed a few huors ago... 09.24.56 # :-P 09.25.00 # not in svn just yet tho 09.25.01 # hehe 09.25.12 # JdGordon: nah - must have missed that one :) 09.25.13 # hey hey\ 09.25.15 # * JdGordon almost typed cvs then :p 09.25.20 # damn habbits ! 09.25.41 # was that a typo for hobbits? 09.25.56 # only if you want it to be :D 09.26.32 # * Bagder managed to get into a really busy project this week to make the svn transition more interesting 09.26.51 # hmm.... how do I tell svn to use a different username? 09.27.10 # allow the prompt 09.27.21 # its askin for the password for 'jonno' 09.27.22 # it first tries your local name and then prompts you 09.27.37 # ah, ok 09.27.42 # You can also use --username xyz 09.27.48 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 09.27.57 # * JdGordon does his firs commit :) 09.28.28 # does it ask for the password every time? 09.28.36 # no 09.29.02 # :) that would be enough for me to say go back to cvs :D 09.30.19 # are the build scripts running yet? 09.30.35 # no 09.30.59 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 09.31.00 # ok 09.31.11 # * JdGordon be's very careful when commiting :) 09.31.47 # I hope to at least do a test-run today 09.32.05 # great 09.32.07 # still only some 4-5 servers reported fixed 09.32.47 # Better than 0 09.33.01 # true 09.33.07 # I'm getting my server rebuild hopfully this week, just aiting for my brother to get a new comp, so ill let you know when its ready 09.33.12 # and localhost is fixed and that is now a pretty fast beast 09.33.43 # it'll be interesting to see how that changes build speeds 09.33.47 # that and the new fast net 09.41.17 # badger badgerm, you prolly heard this a million times today, is the svn server ready for anaonymous check out? 09.41.24 # sure 09.41.50 # time to retire the UsingCVS wiki page :-) 09.41.52 # we need to get instructions all over updated 09.44.30 Quit Mouser_X3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.45.46 Join sneakums [0] (i=sneakums@jenny.ondioline.org) 09.46.21 # badger, at least modigy .topic in here to indicate the transition is done then? 09.46.26 # or is it still not done 09.46.27 # is there a wiki page with the svn checkout instructions on? - (i've seen the one about merging) 09.46.35 # it isn't completed yet 09.46.39 # ok.. 09.46.49 # I mean the transition 09.46.59 # I don't think there's a single mention in the wiki about svn yet 09.47.25 # there is that odd one with the local svn repo 09.47.37 # what;s the checkout url and module ? 09.47.49 Join lost|X40 [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-68-20-29-134.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) 09.47.58 # "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox" 09.48.13 Quit lostnihilist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.48.34 Topic "SVN transition still in progress. "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox"" by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.49.22 # thanks, will give it a go 09.50.56 # oh. does anyone mind if I change the default remote wps to include the album tag? there is one extra line on the iriver remote with the default font 09.51.28 Join CpuWhiz105 [0] (n=eric@cpe-66-87-222-218.co.sprintbbd.net) 09.51.29 Quit CpuWhiz105 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.51.40 # * bluebrother doesn't see a reason for this -- the default wps doesn't fill the main lcd on iriver as well 09.52.43 # I know... I'm asking because its been buging me for ages 09.52.55 # why not use a different wps? ;-) 09.53.29 # Or, can I put the wps code into rockbox_default.(r)wps so it can be used as a base, (I know that file is never actually read) 09.57.08 Quit dan_a () 09.58.11 Join homielowe_ [0] (n=chatzill@66.183.76.7) 09.59.13 # 5 more committers added 09.59.30 Quit CpuWhiz (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.59.49 # how many are there now? 09.59.56 # 19 10.00.06 # * scorche sneaks in an e-mail 10.00.08 Quit gtkspert_ ("leaving") 10.00.16 # how many were there on cvs? 10.00.16 # out of 60 something 10.00.21 # cool 10.00.24 # haha scorche 10.00.49 # badger how many gigabeat devs on it now? 10.00.52 # * bluebrother just found out how to change the mime-type of a file 10.01.04 # svn property bluebrother 10.01.06 Join homielowe_on_wii [0] (i=42b74c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b5553e9d8282035c) 10.01.07 # jba_: only one in svn 10.01.10 # so far 10.01.17 # markun? 10.01.20 # jba_: just found that out myself ;-) 10.01.22 # nope 10.01.31 # greg white 10.01.36 # aah, i've been using svn for over two yuears 10.01.42 # so i'm a happy chappy 10.02.08 # bluebrother, depending on your svn client, you may need to tell it to recursively set the property on all directories 10.02.26 # is anonymous cvs still running? I need to grab an old copy of those files or wait until I get home 10.02.34 # bluebrother: it still runs 10.02.38 Quit homielowe_on_wii (Client Quit) 10.02.40 # If i'm working on a few different patches at the same time do I still need a full source tree for each like with cvs? 10.02.44 # and viewcvs is too 10.03.13 # JdGordon: you can check out a single dir with svn if you want to 10.04.04 # the one thing i'm yet to find is a svn web system that uses the php svn bindings, instead of needing to shell exec the svn executable 10.04.12 # if you find one of those badger let me know 10.04.56 # thats makes compiling hard... Can I do a checkout from the clean part of another local tree so i dont have t download the whole thing? 10.07.02 # * Bagder suggests reading the svn book 10.07.49 # :( but its long and boring... 10.07.51 Join relaxed [0] (n=relaxed@unaffiliated/relaxed) 10.07.53 # * JdGordon heads off to sulk 10.08.01 # jbgordon read up on svn switch 10.08.10 # it's a great source 10.10.38 # so the mime-type property is svn:mime-type, right? 10.12.51 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 10.15.00 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.16.53 Quit BigBambi ("Leaving") 10.20.03 Join EvilDude [0] (n=prashant@CPE-60-227-89-93.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 10.20.20 # correct 10.21.08 # good. Looks like I managed to restore the 3 broken screenshots the right way :) 10.22.22 # too bad this box can't build the manual. tetex way outdated ... 10.24.29 Quit combrains (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.25.42 # * bluebrother starts to like svn 10.30.36 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.42.27 Quit jba_ ("Leaving") 10.45.08 Quit cynicalliberal (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 10.45.49 Nick Tatey^2 is now known as TateyTate (n=popcorn@60-242-2-112.static.tpgi.com.au) 10.49.52 Join webguest99 [0] (i=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8deec81535de38ab) 10.53.05 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.56.48 Join softi_42 [0] (n=softi@p549D7965.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.59.14 Quit homielowe_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.59.24 Quit softi-42 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.00.15 Quit Mouser_X3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.09.31 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 11.09.47 Join alberink [0] (i=d4883808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e2211f8cbb4f2ecc) 11.09.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.10.37 # JdGordon: ping 11.12.40 Join scorche [0] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 11.13.12 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 11.14.14 # yo 11.17.47 Join jba [0] (n=jba@c211-30-242-204.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 11.17.59 Join TCK [0] (n=hahano@bb-87-80-197-109.ukonline.co.uk) 11.17.59 Quit TCK (Client Quit) 11.26.39 Join webguest07 [0] (i=549954e1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-09152543db223faa) 11.26.42 Part webguest07 11.27.11 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@generic-nat.unisi.it) 11.27.16 Join frogslegs [0] (i=549954e1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e0b674cb405aba2f) 11.28.07 # heh, its nice to see dev's being told to go RTFM for a change :> 11.28.30 # svn change and all 11.28.42 # hehe 11.29.24 # a humbling experience ;-) 11.30.17 # the air is nice and fresh outside the ivory towers, where mosr us plebs live 11.31.00 Part webguest99 11.32.00 # ivory towers are good 11.38.16 # later 11.38.19 Part frogslegs 11.40.17 # hey Bagder what's the significance of the mispelling in your nick? 11.41.03 # I picked my nick some 20 years ago 11.41.14 # and then I misspelled it and then I kept it like that 11.41.21 # no as in, was it a typo or did someone else have the proper spelling? 11.41.26 # aah cool 11.41.45 # it actually took me a while to even realize it was misspelled ;-) 11.41.50 # he does it just to make us confused in real life... 11.42.41 # * scorche constantly spells Bagder's name and badger the "wrong" way 11.44.46 # Shouldn't the mime types for the images be set to image/png etc, rather than application/octet-stream? 11.44.50 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.47.04 # guys, how to build ttk with hotdog? 11.47.47 # wth are ttk and hotdog ? 11.47.59 # * GodEaterWeb suspects they're nothing to do with rockbox 11.49.23 # CelticSoul: put them into a pan, stir it on small fire for 20 minutes, add some sugar, and enjoy. 11.49.40 # norbusan: thanks 11.49.53 # ;-) 11.50.11 # now how to build rockbox firmware? 11.50.51 # ../tools/configure && make && make zip 11.50.59 # first you R, then you go over to T while slowly considering F and the adjacent M 11.51.19 # Bagder, thanks 11.51.22 # :-) 11.51.28 # really, it is documented pretty good in the wiki 11.51.51 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide 11.53.00 # ok, so I must extract the zip file to music partition right? 11.53.12 # to the players root folder 11.53.31 # if you call that "music partition" then yes. 11.54.11 # is there anyway to make it work with IpodLoader2? 11.54.25 # yes. 11.54.25 # sure, that can load rockbox 11.54.40 # it's documented on the wiki page describing the boot loader 11.54.41 # cause I already have a loader, I just want a firmware 11.56.18 # I dont mind reading the manual, just dont know which maual is right for me 11.56.26 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.56.58 # which device? 11.57.35 # iPod photo 60GB 11.58.28 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodcolor-20070109.pdf 11.59.25 # * bluebrother notes to fix that manual mentions only Color as matching device 12.00.09 # so rockbox.ipod is the firmware actually? 12.00.32 # yes, but it needs files from the .rockbox folder to work as expected 12.00.36 # e.g. codecs 12.02.51 # ok, got it 12.03.15 # thank you guys 12.07.55 Join grai_ [0] (n=grai@ppp251-99.lns3.syd6.internode.on.net) 12.08.29 Quit petur ("worrk") 12.12.53 # hey guys, 2 line patch to fix bass/trebble saving and loading for gigabaet 12.12.57 # who to send it to 12.16.54 # hrmm, chopper plugin runs out of menus after playing a few games 12.17.12 # Bagder, which gigabeat dev has commit access for svn? 12.18.43 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@82-41-2-141.cable.ubr01.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.20.21 # jba: only gwhite at this point 12.21.00 # debaouched_sloth 12.21.01 # cool 12.21.07 # i gotta find him online somewhere 12.23.08 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) 12.23.56 Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=d57b9aa9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-daac7a7f37d5603a) 12.25.22 # the problem was exactly as linuxstb had said yesterday 12.26.19 # in apps\settings.c i needed to add defined(HAVE_WM8751) in the settings stucture 12.26.43 # so i said two lines, it was really one line, i just put it on a new line, so I needed to do a \ on the end of the pre-processor line 12.27.32 # is there anyone else i can convince to commit that for me? 12.28.49 # hey 12.28.59 # anyone know anything about iphone internals? 12.29.13 # I doubt that 12.29.16 # chipset? arch? vendor? 12.29.17 # Steve Jobs ? 12.29.26 # availabilty Q3, wasn't it? 12.29.26 Quit grai (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.29.32 # Not many people seen a real one yet... 12.29.35 # surely some company has bragged that they make the iphone parts... 12.29.54 # its been on free to air news here for the past 3 days 12.29.58 # they say june 12.29.58 # and in every ad break 12.30.00 # doubt they'd be able to before Mr. Jobs launched it 12.30.02 # Apple will have an NDA with them.... 12.30.10 # not just Apple 12.30.12 # shares go up or something :P 12.30.19 # that'd be "insider trading" stuff 12.30.30 # you can't make a multimillion dollar deal, and not tell your shareholders :P 12.30.32 # they went bezerk on samsung for telling 12.30.40 # so I think companies are careful now 12.31.18 # I think the iPhone UI looks cool and very usable... maybe we should borrow the icons for a new Menu System for RockBox :) 12.31.24 Join webguest24 [0] (i=c2fe7882@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-130ca466d5cf8eca) 12.31.26 # i love it 12.31.28 # but 12.31.33 # 1, i'll have to use itunes 12.31.37 # 2, i can't use wavpack 12.31.40 # RedZZR: lets not... 12.32.49 # apple always do crippled stuff one way or the other and I expect no less with this 12.33.16 # daurnimator: Do you know how well archopen works on the AV320/340? 12.33.22 # since it's running OSX (according to their web page) it should be more extensible than an ipod I'd have thought 12.33.33 # how long before that UI appears on a Widescreen IPOD then? 12.33.35 # linuxstb_: ask oxygen77 12.33.38 # linuxstb_: did you see zagor's offer for a AV for you? 12.34.17 # anyway 12.34.26 # i've been in the tropics for a week or so 12.34.30 # any new stuff? 12.34.31 # hey linuxstb_ do you mind looking over/commiting a quick fix for gigabeat for me? 12.34.42 # GodEaterWeb: the os x part is probaby what I find most interesting 12.34.46 # i've just got back and seen 200+ posts in my RSS on iphone 12.35.04 # Bagder: I did, yes... 12.35.22 # http://members.optusnet.com.au/jba-mono/bass_trebble_fix_for_gigabeat.patch 12.35.30 # that's the patch if anyone is interested in helping out 12.35.41 # like I said, it's a quickie 12.35.49 # okay sleep time for me 12.35.52 # good night guys 12.35.52 # * scorche notes that it is "treble" 12.36.05 # dude, it's late, I've got a newborn and in need of sleep 12.36.13 # you can allow me the mis-spelling can;t you? 12.36.32 # catch ya round scorche 12.36.47 # * scorche salutes 12.36.51 # there i fixed the spelling 12.37.07 # http://members.optusnet.com.au/jba-mono/bass_treble_fix_for_gigabeat.patch now 12.37.11 # haha...you should know that i am just screwing with you ;) 12.37.17 Quit Mikachu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.37.26 # i checked the code 12.37.29 # you were correct 12.37.29 # * jba out 12.40.27 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@67.110.120.159.ptr.us.xo.net) 12.44.50 # goffa: rkostynu got 15:30 hours on his F10, don't know what he got with the OF 12.45.22 # bah, so now I've fixed the menus in the chopper plugin, but the terrain isn't randomised anymore 12.45.30 # guess I won't be trying to commit that tonight 12.46.08 Quit safetydan ("Ex-Chat") 12.48.18 # Anyone know if 160GB is the largest 2.5" drive currently available? Has anything larger been announced? 12.49.30 # "Fujitsu has launched a 200GB Serial ATA 2.5in hard disk drive " 12.49.33 # march 2006 12.49.42 # but that's SATA 12.51.52 Quit GodEaterWeb ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.53.57 # as far as IDE, 160 is the largest atm 12.54.32 # Seems Toshiba also have a 200GB S-ATA - MK2035GSS 12.54.32 # although i dont see why they havent put out larger yet...they have 120 1" now... 12.55.45 Join kaaloo [0] (n=luis@m34.net81-65-114.noos.fr) 12.57.29 Quit jba (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.00.40 Join d47 [0] (n=d47@144.131.144.173) 13.07.30 # guys, when I click on rockbox on my iPod, it shows ROLO loading... then the Rockbox logo and go back to the main menu 13.08.47 # yes, that's the rockbox firmware you then run (again) 13.08.58 # it's not a menu 13.09.02 # its a file browser 13.09.47 Quit trypt0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.09.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.10.12 Join trypt0_ [0] (i=trypt0@ip68-8-222-147.sd.sd.cox.net) 13.10.30 Nick webguest24 is now known as markun_ (i=c2fe7882@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-130ca466d5cf8eca) 13.11.26 # can I browse other partition? 13.12.00 # are you talking about on the ipod? 13.12.08 Join GodEaterWeb [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1066b4ce86ca2907) 13.12.18 # the boot partition? 13.12.22 # http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5038 <-- PortalPlayer in the iPhone allegedly. 13.12.28 # yes, I'm talking about the iPod 13.12.43 # are you in windows or linux? 13.12.53 # I have 3 partitions on it, 13.13.00 # o.o 13.13.03 # "SanDisk takes the cake today for handing out 1GB Sansa C240 MP3 players outside their press conference" 13.13.09 # free C240s 13.13.10 # :( 13.13.14 # omftg 13.13.22 # are you serious? 13.13.35 # thats close to oprah giving away wii's 13.13.35 # I mean, browse other partition on rockbox 13.13.54 # Celtic, oh i see, sry i have no idea 13.14.06 # no, that's generally not enabled 13.14.25 # CelticSoul: I think you need to set a define and recompile rockbox for that to work 13.14.49 # ok, will try that later, thank you 13.15.47 Part norbusan 13.16.53 # haha, i was just waiting for someone to spam the devlist with their password 13.16.55 # is it just me or is ati getting mentioned less and less in modern devices? 13.17.01 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.17.27 # * Bagder brand new laptop has ATI graphics 13.17.41 # (add a 's wherever you see fit) 13.17.55 # lol 13.18.54 # GodEaterWeb: In older news, http://www.simmtester.com/page/news/shownews.asp?where=2895625&num=9767 seems more certain 13.21.07 # * preglow wants a brand new laptop :/ 13.21.11 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 13.21.27 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-167-33.dyn.iinet.net.au) 13.22.26 # lol my laptop is broken in multiple ways, the screen *flops*, and the battery doesnt charge, so its a floptop that needs a powerpoint =/ 13.22.29 # linuxstb: black is showing up as dark-gray in the mpegplayer. gtkspert confirmed that this also happened in the UI sim 13.22.39 # I'm happy with my asus f3ja 13.23.14 # i got a toshiba satelite A10 from leik 2003 or sumin 13.23.34 Join daurn [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 13.23.53 # 1.8GHz intel core 2 duo, 1680x1050 15.4" LCD, 120GB disk 13.24.10 # oo 13.24.13 Quit daurnimator (Connection reset by peer) 13.24.17 # debian linux 13.24.35 # o.o 13.24.36 # that took a while 13.24.43 # my computer had time to restart 13.24.44 # and me make a cup of tea 13.24.51 # before i timed out 13.24.56 # 2.2Ghz pentium M, 512mb ram, 15 inch 60GB ubuntu linux 13.25.12 # * GodEaterWeb notes that Nvidia has announced on it's own front page that it has complete the portalplayer takeover 13.25.17 # Bagder: i've gt almost the same :) asus f3jm 13.25.19 # and the points people at : http://tinyurl.com/ydkwa8 13.25.33 # which might mean a policy shift in information flow about portalplayer 13.25.38 # * GodEaterWeb is ever the optimist 13.25.47 # the hi res lcd is really nice 13.26.14 # * GodEaterWeb has a 1920x1200 display on his laptop 13.26.32 # yeah, I have one of those dells here too 13.26.37 # * d47 hasnt even got that on his uber pc =/ 13.26.40 # but my asus lcd is nicer 13.26.42 # ironically that's higher than my desktop :) 13.26.53 # heh 13.26.58 # * Bagder has 4 computers in his room 13.27.03 # lol me 2 13.27.06 # working from home is a blessing 13.27.08 # and a tv 13.27.14 # * GodEaterWeb has three on his desk here - and 3 at home too 13.27.21 # one TV and two settop boxes 13.27.23 Quit CelticSoul ("Leaving") 13.27.25 # lol 13.27.40 # I did have six at home but I decided that was getting silly 13.28.04 # * d47 has gentoo, damn small linux & 2x ubuntu in his room 13.28.48 # you won't get cold at least ;-) 13.29.06 # yeh its quite warm in here =/ 13.29.07 # and some embedded computers with rockbox of course 13.29.13 # lol 13.29.36 # I'm a mere 5 mp3 players owner 13.29.45 # one of the little kids in this company 13.30.04 # i installed rockbox on my brothers ipod video but he just didnt get it, and made me put it back =/ he doesnt know what he's missing 13.30.31 # hehehe 13.30.42 # the ipod software is not that horrible,P 13.30.56 # yeh but wheres the doom?? and the pokemon??!?! 13.30.56 # itunes is the biggest problem, but foobar2000 fixes that ;) 13.31.00 # ah yes 13.31.06 # ;P 13.31.19 # I noticed a problem on my gigabeat: after leaving some plugins, some parts of the WPS have the background colour of the plugin 13.31.30 # does this happen to anyone else? 13.31.38 # really? i havnt noticed that 13.31.55 # no mines relativly flawless 13.31.58 Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-78-79.dynamic.qsc.de) 13.32.33 # My backgroundcolour is black, after leaving minesweeper the background colour of my progress bar in the WPS is gray 13.32.45 # ill try that now brb 13.34.04 Quit GodEaterWeb ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.35.24 # yes markun i do also get that 13.35.33 Join CelticSoul [0] (n=celticso@dyn-88-122-17-128.ppp.tiscali.fr) 13.35.44 # havnt noticed it until now though 13.36.34 # I think perl was mentioning it the other day, It seems to have appeared when the DMA code was introduced, also pacbox stopped working 13.37.22 # can anyone with a non-gigabeat colour DAP verify that it only happens on the gigabeat? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 14.43.03 Nick TateyTate is now known as Tate (n=popcorn@60-242-2-112.static.tpgi.com.au) 14.43.57 # markun interesting bug 14.44.30 # what bug is that? 14.44.50 Join gath [0] (n=slomo@dslb-088-072-252-084.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.45.24 # hey there 14.45.34 # hi 14.45.38 # [07:31] I noticed a problem on my gigabeat: after leaving some plugins, some parts of the WPS have the background colour of the plugin 14.45.43 # morning goffa 14.45.58 # yeah.. that is an odd bug 14.46.00 # mornin 14.46.19 # progress bar bug and now that 14.47.00 # yeah... on the progress bar on the unicatcher i just think that the progress bar and song title are too high 14.47.05 # er next song title 14.47.14 Join Juice^ [0] (n=juice@213.167.96.196) 14.47.32 # under the codec there is that faded bar, i think that's where it's supposed to go 14.47.49 # its just that it overlaps codec name causing pink to show 14.48.02 # brb.. headed to work 14.48.17 # i tried to install rockbox, after the command "./ipodpatcher /dev/sda1 -r bootpartition.bin", i got the answer [ERR] Bad boot sector signature 14.48.22 # JdGordon: still not there ? 14.48.23 # what does it mean? 14.48.38 Join GodEaterWeb [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2c5d3afd72ba486d) 14.48.52 # i have a ipod 5G and use Linux 14.49.53 # You should use /dev/sda 14.50.03 # I also requested the data sheet for E200 and got the mail in reply to sign a confidential agreement :O 14.50.22 # Juice^: did you get the agreement text? 14.50.37 # Bagder: yes 14.50.38 # linuxstb_: yeah you are right, sda1 ist the partition and not the hd 14.50.47 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 14.51.21 # Juice^: Are you allowed to disclose the NDA? 14.52.11 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@38.98.196.75) 14.52.35 Quit alberink ("CGI:IRC") 14.52.48 # Bagder: Not really sure of what agreement text you speak of, but i got an standard confidental agreement document to fill out, with some information inside... copyrights etc. which seems to be an "november 2002 edition" 14.53.42 # linuxstb_: you should probably use dmesg to find out what the ipod has actually been shown up as (on my system, as ther are multiple usb-key like drives, /dev/sda certainly would be wrong) 14.54.05 # daven: ipodpatcher has a -scan option... 14.54.21 # ah 14.54.24 # useful :) 14.54.43 Join alberink [0] (i=d4883808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0a0206272c3271a8) 14.54.46 # [00:54:09] hey 14.54.46 # [00:54:17] 60gb 1.8" drives annouced 14.54.46 # [00:54:24] http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=seagate-ships-lyrion-the-industrys-most-intelligent-and-evolved-1.8-inch-hd&vgnextoid=0792001bd6eff010VgnVCM100000f5ee0a0aRCRD 14.54.46 DBUG Enqueued KICK daurn 14.54.46 # [00:54:39] (single platter) 14.55.28 Join norbusan [0] (n=norbusan@generic-nat.unisi.it) 14.56.40 Join Unleet [0] (i=42057d0b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a3c6ec890d73e38e) 14.56.40 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.56.53 # Yo. 14.59.48 # What mp3 player is better, the Ipod or the Zune? 14.59.59 # ... 15.00.43 # Just asking. 15.00.48 # Unleet: it really depends on what you find useful in a player. 15.00.53 # zune can't run rockbox 15.01.09 # I know it can't. 15.01.23 # Bad battery in the zune, bigger screen though. 15.01.59 # I actually have the H1020gb with rockbpx. 15.02.03 # box* 15.02.10 # personaly i think ipods and zunes are both horible 15.02.44 # Lol. 15.02.48 # Why? 15.02.52 # it doesnt matter what features it has when they use drm and restrict music formats 15.02.57 # the AMS NDA is strict enough to render anything gotten under that contract as unusable 15.03.13 # unless someone wants them on their tail 15.03.38 # "The parties agree to keep all disclosed confidential information strictly confidential." 15.03.38 # they call this a feature: "Support for Zune Digital Rights Management (DRM) (incompatible with other DRM schemes)." 15.03.39 # True. 15.04.16 Join dan_a [0] (i=d917a37d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4c02ef459f664f82) 15.04.39 # meh. The design of the ipod is nice if nothing else. However, the DRM stuff is really quite bad, I'll agree. 15.04.39 Quit Unleet ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.04.44 # Bagder: may I see a copy? 15.05.57 # although i think that wifi is a great feature, too bad its only compatible with other zunes... 15.08.40 # daven: DRM on the ipods is completely optional, even with the Apple firmware... 15.09.18 # rly, im not very familiar with ipods 15.09.24 # yeah, I've never downloaded a single tune from ITMS 15.09.31 # 24 committers in svn 15.09.33 # sound quality wise ipods are very mediocre 15.09.35 # so all my ipod music is completely DRM free 15.09.53 # no complaints about the sound quality on mine 15.10.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.10.03 # but freely admit to lacking golden ears :) 15.10.13 # heh 15.10.30 # If I compare my archos experience with my ipod 5g, the archos runs around the ipod in circles (audio quality wise) 15.10.36 # plus I don't use the stock headphones - got some flavour of Senheisser ones - don't recall which. 15.11.01 Join |SuGerMan| [0] (n=carl@c1-148-1.pel.dial.mweb.co.za) 15.12.03 # dwihno: Comparing newer archoses (MAS3587F, MAS3539F), archos player (MAS3507D+DAC3550), irivers (UDA1380), X5 (TLV320) and ipod mini G2 (WM8711), the newer archoses have the best sound quality imo 15.12.06 # The 5g is accepted (afaik) as being the best of the ipods though (ignoring the original Shuffle, I don't know about the new shuffle). My Color is definitely lacking in that department. 15.12.29 # 4g has a much better amp than 5g 15.12.40 # in what department? 15.12.48 # The sound department... 15.12.52 # <|SuGerMan|> where most u guys from ?? CA ?? 15.12.53 # k 15.12.54 # amiconn: I've only tested the rec20 and ipod 5g :) 15.12.59 # australia 15.13.26 # <|SuGerMan|> i'm looking for a Canadian server ... anyone know where i can get hold of ppl from Saskatoon ? 15.13.52 # saskatoon lol funny name 15.13.55 # now this seems veeeery Rockbox related ;-) 15.14.11 # <|SuGerMan|> sorry man ... 15.14.28 # <|SuGerMan|> just cant find any channels 15.14.28 # d47: there's a town called Woolloomoolo in australia 15.15.04 # Mikachu: at least something you still can pronounce when youre drunken :P 15.15.25 # lol, i used to live close to galargenbone 15.15.31 # <|SuGerMan|> so i take it no one knows anyone in Saskatoon ? 15.15.51 # at least nobody dares to admit it :-) 15.16.21 # <|SuGerMan|> *sigh* 15.16.26 # haha 15.16.32 # i'd say you're more likely to find geographical channels on other networks 15.17.07 # <|SuGerMan|> well i've been looking on other networks and most them are poo 15.17.09 # woolloomoolo sounds like something out of age of empires 15.17.09 # Bagder: Thanks. It doesn't look very helpful, but it doesn't look like it would apply to us, as we're not "cooperating in the development of integrated circuits" 15.17.38 # I wouldn't have thought many NDAs are GPL compatible :) 15.17.49 # heh 15.18.39 Quit |SuGerMan| () 15.19.00 Part norbusan 15.19.00 # wtf is he after canadians for? He's signed on from South Africa! 15.19.11 # you should have asked him 15.19.13 # maybe he's homesick 15.19.23 # Nico_P: hey 15.19.25 # maybe 15.19.28 # standard canadian trick, they all do that ;-P 15.19.32 # hahaha 15.19.38 # untrustworthy bunch 15.19.44 # sneaky fellows 15.20.06 Quit gromit` ("Coyote finally caught me") 15.20.07 # present company excepted of course. *peers at fellow channel members* 15.20.23 # of course 15.20.24 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 15.20.48 # JdGordon: hi 15.20.57 # out of intrest what net speed are you all on? 15.21.05 # i'm on speed 15.21.10 # anyway 15.21.12 # night all 15.21.14 # funny 15.21.16 # night 15.21.30 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 15.21.30 # * Bagder is on a 24mbit adsl 15.21.30 # * GodEaterWeb searches for the infinity symbol 15.21.33 # may the night bring you all super...coding....abilities 15.21.35 # theoretically 24mbit 15.21.43 # * LinusN is on 8mbit/s ADSL 15.21.51 # * Mikachu has 100mbit 15.21.58 # i'm on 512kbps adsl! 15.21.59 # * d47 is on a lowly 1.5mbps 15.22.13 # dual 300 mbit here AFAICR 15.22.22 # Nico_P: hows things? 15.22.29 # GodEaterWeb: ∞ 15.22.36 # JdGordon: hi, and bye :P 15.22.42 # hey 15.22.43 # I just knew someone would do that ;) 15.22.47 # fiber optical net here :) 15.22.51 # I couldn't be bothered to load charmap :) 15.23.05 # i can enter it directly 15.23.06 # JdGordon: not done much on rockbox... i'm on a project in CaML 15.23.06 # =/ 15.23.13 # ALT+blahblahblah ? 15.23.21 # not exactly, linux here 15.23.25 # or are you claiming an actual button on your keyboard ;) 15.23.31 # i dont think we even have a single fibre optic line in australia =/ 15.23.38 # a key sequence 15.23.41 # ah 15.23.43 # compose 15.23.45 # max net you can get in aus is 24mbps 15.24.03 # altgr+= @ @ 15.24.12 # max was 1.5 a month ago 15.24.24 # ˇ <-- that's what I get from that key sequence 15.24.31 # heh 15.24.32 # or is there a space there too ? 15.24.46 # [00:54:09] hey 15.24.46 # [00:54:17] 60gb 1.8" drives annouced 15.24.46 # [00:54:24] http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=seagate-ships-lyrion-the-industrys-most-intelligent-and-evolved-1.8-inch-hd&vgnextoid=0792001bd6eff010VgnVCM100000f5ee0a0aRCRD 15.24.46 # [00:54:39] (single platter) 15.24.48 # arg 15.24.51 # wrong paste 15.24.52 # sorry 15.25.18 # ∞ 15.25.32 # that was still a paste though ;) 15.25.45 # ? 15.29.01 Join scorche [0] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 15.29.42 # ∞ 15.30.02 # seems the only way I can get it is from a paste - I wonder how you work out the correct key sequence for it 15.30.11 # * GodEaterWeb wanders wildy offtopic 15.30.16 # the unicode codepoint is 221e 15.30.27 # yeah I see that 15.30.36 # I just can't work out how that helps with a compose sequence 15.30.37 # try alt+8734 then 15.30.46 Join lowlight [0] (i=c730190a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-11865c45aa2ff959) 15.30.46 # oh okay, you're not on windows 15.30.47 # does that trick work in linux ? 15.30.52 # no I'm not ;) 15.31.04 # if you use urxvt you can press ctrl-shift+221e 15.31.05 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.31.21 # you can add compose sequences in ~/.XCompose 15.31.26 Join scorche [0] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 15.31.30 # ah - that's how it's done 15.31.32 # : "∞" 15.31.52 # and all xlib clients then pick it up (eg. firefox) ? 15.32.05 # put include "%L" on the first line to keep the standard ones 15.32.16 # they should, but gtk+ tends to ignore standards 15.32.25 # nice of the gtk+ guys 15.32.47 # ??????????????????????????? !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~׃Ѫ++++--+-+++---+i++_̯յݯ= 15.32.50 # that "we know better" attitude is annoying 15.32.57 # i think if you run with GTK_IM_MODULE=xim firefox it might work 15.32.59 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohannmi@cpe-71-72-99-25.columbus.res.rr.com) 15.34.12 # otherwise gtk uses an internal compose table for whatever reason 15.34.53 # Sorry couldn't resist trying it... 15.35.02 # editable in some obscure part of gtkconf somewhere no doubt 15.35.14 # * pondlife pastes wrongly too, ignore him 15.37.43 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@91.64.233.208) 15.39.04 # ha - gtk isn't even consistent with itself! According to a quick google "Compose+8+8" should do ∞ - but it doesn't you just get [[ 15.40.12 # how can i understand the topic? is that an url? 15.40.25 # it's a command 15.40.33 # ah ok 15.40.58 # are there no updates on rockbox.org anymore? 15.41.41 # there will be, we are working on it 15.42.02 # oki...just curious.. 15.42.32 Quit lowlight ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.43.25 # "still in progress" actually means that the transition is still in progress 15.44.09 # well..i just look around every 5days..thus im not uptodate and what it means ;) 15.48.22 Join lowlight [0] (i=c730190b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bf197c2868310dfb) 15.49.06 Quit lowlight (Client Quit) 15.50.58 Join Makra [0] (n=Makra@IP-225.c-201.TvNetWork.Hu) 15.51.25 Part Makra 15.53.50 # I'm beginning to see a need for "Idiot's guide to the command prompt" somewhere in the wiki 15.54.03 # or perhaps that's harsh 15.54.12 # maybe "Youngster's guide to the command prompt" 15.54.23 Quit kacee914 (Remote closed the connection) 15.54.48 # Febs: hehe - beat you ;) 15.55.28 # You had an entire conversation with him while I was typing. 15.55.38 # haha 15.55.38 # does anyone know about kdevelop3 projects files? specifically, does the function/variable databse (or whatever it uses) get updated each time it is opened? 15.56.23 # Use of the command prompt does seem to be a dying art. 15.57.13 # I think it's already dead. Clearly it's not taught any more. 15.57.19 # Indeed. 15.57.37 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.57.46 # brain usage in general is a dying art 15.58.04 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr) 15.58.09 # Febs: He still needed telling off for the subject of his post though. It was pretty piss poor. 15.58.56 # http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/ams-nda.txt <= if more are interested 15.59.30 # GodEaterWeb: I beat you that time. 15.59.34 # Bagder - you couldn't post it in the wiki somewhere could you - for some reason our proxy thinks your web page is something to do with hacking and doesn't let me read it :( 15.59.46 # haha 16.00.03 # * JdGordon loves laywer speak 16.00.18 Quit GodEaterWeb ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.00.18 # then try www.contactor.se/~dast/nda.txt for the same text 16.01.31 Join GodEaterWeb [0] (i=c2cbc95c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8f719dbf6fbba3d3) 16.01.40 # cue CGI IRC dumping me just as you post the link 16.02.02 # christ - that's full on legalese 16.02.23 # yess, and haxx.se is full of illegalese :-) 16.02.27 # That's poor legal writing. 16.02.38 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964F58.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.04.35 # amazingly, when using the command prompt in windows the "HELP" command is still quite useful 16.04.43 # it's a wonder more people don't think to type it 16.05.11 # help in bash seems helpful also :p 16.06.00 # * GodEaterWeb thinks we should make some modification to the forum software. As soon as the input field detects someone typing "Rockbox Error : -1", their web browser should take them to some garish page with a flash animation of a siren (complete with sound) accusing them of idiocy and not having read the manual properly. 16.07.26 # * LinusN needs to replace the -1 with "file not found" 16.07.29 # maybe instead of printing just "-1" you should direct the user to helpfull text 16.07.34 # lol 16.07.50 # or just fuile not found >.> 16.08.46 # "Can't find rockbox firmware. Did you read the manual properly?" 16.09.08 # "please refer to the manual." 16.09.14 # "please activate brain" 16.09.18 # "RTFM" 16.09.22 # "insert pin" 16.09.49 # ./buildmaster.pl runs... 16.09.54 # woooooooo 16.10.05 # is that the build server script ? 16.10.06 # you've gotta love ndas 16.10.16 # GodEater_: yeah, the master build script 16.10.50 # preglow: No you don't! 16.11.03 # is there somewhere on the wiki that's a quick guide to creating a buildserver - I did volunteer my home box but then never got instructions on what to do with it 16.11.34 # or is that included in the svn checkout ? 16.11.43 Part gath ("Konversation terminated!") 16.11.53 Join perl|work [0] (n=jacquesc@static-64-61-105-170.isp.broadviewnet.net) 16.12.04 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CvsBuildServer 16.12.11 # not updated for svn just yet 16.12.12 # thanks 1