--- Log for 16.11.107 Server: kubrick.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 2 hours ago 00.00.05 # kugel: Just file a proper bug report. I'm going to dinner. 00.00.07 Part Llorean 00.00.23 # jpt9: I think my .18 OF charges up to 4.0V 00.00.28 # ah. 00.00.35 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 00.00.35 # ok it seems to work :) 00.00.40 # rebooting... 00.00.48 # is there any reason rockbox can't charge it the last bit? 00.01.14 # woohoo 00.01.25 # :) 00.02.08 # jpt9: no not really, but I think hardly anyone uses rockbox for charging anyway 00.02.26 # oh. 00.02.34 # it seems kind of silly. 00.03.11 # it probably gives some people a bad impression... "They can't even get charging to work?" 00.03.46 # jpt9: feel free to fix 00.03.52 # hmm... 00.04.40 # there isn't any kind of charging API I think 00.05.00 # or is there? 00.05.31 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.178.46) 00.05.39 # oh I see some stuff in powermgmt.h 00.07.06 # powermanagement is a bit of a mess atm 00.07.22 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.07.25 # But we can't charge with >100mA before getting usb to work 00.07.31 # That's the main problem 00.10.17 # jpt9: controlling the charger looks really easy, the charging itself is done by a hardware circuit. The software only needs to configure the charge parameters like voltage and current 00.10.27 # oh 00.10.30 # Hmm.. Can't take screendumps anymore. [H10] 'system->debug->screendumps' and then plug in the usb to trigger, right? 00.10.43 # And we need to be *really* sure what those parameters are 00.11.19 # ah. 00.11.29 # so you don't have it bursting into flames and all. 00.12.09 # perhaps not flames, but at least too high voltage is damaging to the battery (and too high charging current probably too) 00.12.16 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 00.13.19 # I've never seen more than 4.0V just after charging with the OF, but the charge controller allows charging up to a voltage of 4.25V 00.13.20 Join Workaphobia [0] (n=Jonathan@goldenrod-56.dynamic2.rpi.edu) 00.20.05 # if you do a makefile target that has no deps, it'll always be executed, yes? <- 00.20.23 # Yes 00.20.35 # jpt9: maybe as an intermediate step we could implement an USB device much simpler than USB mass storage, and use this to advertise our need for 500 mA 00.20.43 # ah. 00.20.51 # i've got "rbspeexdec : rbspeexdec.c libspeex" on a line here, yet it consistently fails to call the libspeex target 00.21.16 # Can you show your makefile? 00.21.17 # perhaps something like a virtual com port which is quite easy as it just uses two bulk pipes with no complicated protocol 00.21.25 # sure 00.22.14 # linuxstb: http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/Makefile 00.22.19 # linuxstb: it's tools/Makefile, look near the bottom 00.22.27 # linuxstb: it does try to build rbspeexenc, though 00.23.26 Quit bertrik ("bedtime") 00.23.34 # I expect it's conflicting with the directory called libspeex you create 00.23.49 # right, so i should phony it 00.23.50 Join lee-qid_ [0] (n=liqid@p54967CC1.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.23.55 # Yes 00.23.57 Quit ender` (" MCSE = Moron Claiming System Expertise, Must Call Someone Else, or Minesweeper Champion, Solitaire E") 00.24.58 # Or maybe better - the dependency should be libspeex/libspeex.a - that's what you're making... 00.25.00 # linuxstb: mno, doesn't seem like it, no 00.25.02 Quit Isolinear () 00.25.21 # so, i should call the libspeex target that too, i suppose? 00.25.28 # * preglow dislikes makefiles 00.25.35 # Yes, that's what I mean 00.26.06 # linuxstb: that got it working in a hurry 00.26.10 # Before I fill in a bug report, anyone would confirm/infirm that screendump is broken? (my iriver h10 does detect usb in/out, it just doesn't generate a bmp) 00.26.30 # but now, back to the old problem, nb_celp.c seems to want consts that are in speex.h, but does not include speex.h, yet all compiles of libspeex but this one works... 00.26.52 # preglow: include paths maybe? 00.27.27 # safetydan: well, it would have told me if it didn't find a file it tried to include, no? 00.27.31 Part agm3nt 00.28.01 # preglow: true 00.28.10 # (Ahh.... interrestingly, when I have debug-screendump enabled, it does NOT detect usb out or, at least, the statusbar doesn't reflect it) 00.29.26 # preglow: nb_celp.h includes modes.h which includes - so I think it could be include paths... 00.29.46 # Maybe a conflict with an installed version of speex.h? 00.30.07 # aha 00.30.17 # very probably 00.30.47 # PaulPosition: there is a report in the h10 forums on misticriver about broken screendump functionality. 00.31.11 # preglow: hurry the fux up...I want to commit that SPC codec =;p 00.31.37 # Pauljam - Indeed. But misticriver folks aren't really into submitting bugs to the tracker. -- Yet I don't want to be trigger-happy with it either. 00.33.03 # i'm getting there... 00.33.35 # :D :PpPpPp ... need more liquor (/me does) 00.33.46 # it sPEWS warnings 00.33.47 # baaaah 00.33.57 # i definitely need more liquor 00.34.02 # but have none, so it's more makefile instead 00.34.17 # jhMikeS, preglow, what's up w/ SPC? 00.34.35 # PaulPosition: i'm not sure what you mean. i just mentioned it because you asked for confirmation of this bug. 00.35.49 # hcs: it's my dual core version but voice swapping is blocking it 00.36.01 # PaulJam - Oh, okay.. Sorry, I wanted to know if other devices would show the same symptoms. 00.36.11 # linuxstb: so, how to solve that, really? swap all <> with "" ? 00.36.30 # see you all! 00.36.38 Part BoD[] 00.36.50 # PaulPosition: on h300 with r15627 screendump works. 00.37.13 # preglow: I'm not sure, but I would hope there is a better way than that... 00.37.58 # linuxstb: i can't possibly think of one, afaik, /usr/include is first in the include path, and if speex/speex.h exists there, that will be used first 00.38.05 # PaulJam - Thanks.. So I'll fill a report only for H10. 00.38.27 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 00.38.31 # linuxstb: so either drop speex/ or turn <> to "", both equally bad, afaik 00.39.03 # (after I read the wiki about bug reports, to make sure I don't behave like an idiot) 00.40.04 # linuxstb: there doesn't seem to be many 00.40.22 # at least not in .h files 00.40.27 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.42.34 Quit freqmod_nx (Remote closed the connection) 00.42.48 Join freqmod_nx [0] (i=freqmod@dhcp208-90.ed.ntnu.no) 00.44.03 # any better suggestions? :/ 00.44.12 Quit jpt9 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.44.14 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 00.44.35 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 00.44.35 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 00.45.20 # libspeex/SOURCES is turning into a right mess 00.45.24 # Are you sure this is the problem? Reading the manpage, -I should add the directory to the head of the search path, and system directories come afterwards... 00.45.53 # Why is it that every song gets included into the Database 4 times? Any way to correct this? iPod Nano with Tuesday's daily build. 00.46.14 # linuxstb: really, now 00.46.25 # did someone of the devs look at fs#8122 ? 00.46.32 # preglow: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.0.3/gcc/Directory-Options.html 00.47.08 # preglow: You could confirm by (temporarily) removing the system copy 00.47.47 # ok, i've got a libspeex 00.48.08 Part toffe82 00.48.49 # linuxstb: i might have ommited some include path here, yeah 00.49.06 # BABECOEC ? what the heck is a COEC? 00.49.09 # :p 00.49.42 # that's what happens when you call the wrong escort service, i think. 00.49.45 # linuxstb: it doesn't look like the speex makefile specifies -I. or anything... 00.49.50 # yes, yes it does 00.49.51 # prefetch abort at that address.. thats a stack oberflow or something yeah? 00.50.11 # preglow: Yes, I'm looking at that now... Does "make V=1" work in tools/ ? 00.51.04 # * n1s thought it was supposed to be C0EDBABE 00.51.14 # thats why it thought it was funny 00.51.16 # linuxstb: make tools V=1 does 00.51.21 # kugel: is this even a bug? i thought it is theis way, so you can use the format strings from the original tagnavi in your custom one. if you want different format strings in your custom config you can just use different names for them. 00.51.48 Join Isolinear [0] (n=A@c-76-105-254-119.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 00.52.02 # crap.. doesnt crash the sim :( 00.52.11 # this user made his own format strings, and they were not recognized 00.52.12 # JdGordon: sounds like some protection cookie that got scrambled 00.52.37 # Could svn be used to go backward, say, two weeks... in search of when a bug may have been introduced.. how? 00.52.38 # I guess because the %include of tagnavi.config is after the format strings 00.53.01 # linuxstb: figured it out 00.53.12 # PaulPosition: you can check out an older SVN 00.53.15 # linuxstb: _I_ forgot to include -I. 00.53.34 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 00.54.19 # PaulPosition: use for example 'svn up -r12345' to go to a specific revision 00.54.20 # doh, I just found out how... missed it when I first read the wiki page. 00.54.24 # thanks :) 00.57.23 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.57.36 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 00.57.51 # anyone have any ideas about FS#8163? it only seems to be the german lang.. ive tried hai and russion which are both larger so im not sure its an overflow 00.58.18 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet12.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 00.58.43 # kugel: hmm, then i don't understand this bugreport. i use custom formatstrings in my tagnavi_custom.config and there they work. 00.58.55 Join jmworx [0] (n=jmworx@panoramix.CeNTIE.NET.au) 00.59.38 # So answer this report and tell the way you made it 00.59.49 Quit lee-qid_ ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 01.00.01 # preglow: So is it all good now? 01.01.19 # linuxstb: no, i still lack some stuff, plus, this thing vOMITS warnings 01.01.41 # i don't know how much i'm going to care, really, it won't show up on the build tables much 01.02.07 # and wtf, why isn't ranlib run? 01.02.10 # looks like it tries 01.02.36 # probably isn't defined for host based builds 01.03.49 # Shouldn't it be the same as a sim build? 01.04.29 # No, it shouldn't (to answer my own question...) 01.05.05 # and for some reason, big parts og nb_celp.c can't find speec_alloc and speex_free... and os_support.h is included just fine 01.05.14 # ARGH 01.05.15 # forget me 01.05.39 # preglow: what do you mean "can't find"? 01.05.46 # kugel: i just did it the way the wiki decribes it. i don't use any tricks to make it work. 01.06.14 # the wiki says that the %include is before everything else (just comments before) 01.06.22 # so the wiki is kinda wrong 01.06.30 # jmworx: nevermind this, this is all my fault 01.06.37 # jmworx: i'm trying to coax our svn libspeex to build natively 01.06.49 # what do you mean? 01.07.10 # jmworx: i use speex_resampler in our own mini-encoder, and most people don't have that new a libspeex yet 01.07.23 # jmworx: so i'm using the libspeex we already have in svn to build the encoder app 01.07.25 # kugel: maybe it is just a leftover from before the formatstings were introduced. you shoud ask Slasheri, he is the Database expert. 01.08.04 # I talked to the one who has this problem 01.08.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.08.39 # he made his format strings in the tagnavi_custom, and they aren't recognized 01.08.58 # that's all I can tell. I don't have this problem (but just since I don't have my own format strings) 01.09.00 Quit DerPapst ("So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!") 01.09.30 Quit n1s () 01.09.38 # linuxstb: so, how to make that makefile run ranlib in a good way? 01.10.00 Join jpt9 [0] (n=chatzill@geodude-22.dynamic.rpi.edu) 01.10.01 # kugel: ask him to upload his file to the tracker, maybe this helps understanding the problem. 01.10.13 # jmworx: and yes, right now i very much curse myself for having removed all that encoder stuff in weird ways :) 01.10.33 # preglow: Maybe just add AR=ar to the 'make -C' line ? 01.10.34 # _yes_ 01.10.35 # there we go 01.10.57 # now let's see if this bastard works 01.10.57 Quit jpt9 (Client Quit) 01.11.19 # preglow: You're aware that speex 1.2beta3 is moving the resampler to libspeexdsp? 01.11.24 # linuxstb: it doesbn't call AR, it calls AR+ANLIB 01.11.36 # jmworx: sure, but that doesn't matter much for us since we don't use your build system anyway 01.11.49 # right 01.12.00 # jmworx: all i need from libspeexdsp is resample.c, so i just include that in libspeex for this occasion 01.12.05 # it won't be visible system-wide anyway 01.12.12 # then why does it matter that "most people don't have that new a libspeex yet"? 01.12.32 # preglow: Are you sure - the Makefile echos 'AR+RANLIB' but then only does $(AR) 01.12.38 # preglow: are you defining OUTSIDE_SPEEX? 01.12.52 # jmworx: no, should it be necessary? it's built as part of speex 01.14.10 # linuxstb: that worked just fine 01.14.10 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@cpe-70-113-103-34.austin.res.rr.com) 01.14.21 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 01.14.23 # linuxstb: so all that's left of the annoyances now are the warnings, which might be 64 bit related 01.15.57 # preglow: Well, OUTSIDE_SPEEX makes it use different symbols so that if someone eventually links with libspeexdsp as well, there's no symbol duplication. I guess in your case, you might not care about that... 01.15.58 # linuxstb: the resulting binary even works 01.16.22 # jmworx: nah, we control our environment so well we don't have to worry about that 01.17.08 # well, cool, that was the last piece 01.17.17 # we should be ready to deploy some testing now 01.18.48 # JdGordon: about FS#8163, it looks like in this screen the title is made to scroll artificially (even though it doesn't make sense in this context) and after it has scrolled for a while there are two square characters at the end of the title string (those that are displayed when the glyph is not available). so maybe the problem has to do with the title being made longer to scroll. 01.18.53 Join radinp [0] (n=pradin@vpnwl-228-52.net.rpi.edu) 01.19.43 Join kugel_ [0] (i=kugel@e178068126.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.21.10 # PaulJam: but it happens when exiting the screen... 01.24.28 Part Workaphobia 01.25.15 Quit kugel (Nick collision from services.) 01.25.18 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (i=kugel@e178068126.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.25.40 # Should I delete everything in my build folder before I 'make' a new (older) revision? 01.26.16 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.9/2007102514]") 01.26.27 # s/revision/release 01.26.36 # or whatever.. :p 01.27.35 # i would do a 'make clean' or yes delete everything if you're getting weird behavior... 01.27.58 Part pixelma 01.28.30 # mud_ - Hmm, gonna read up on 'make clean'.. It's just that RMing eveything by hand is, uh..., long. Thanks. 01.29.38 # That's all "make clean" does... 01.30.02 # JdGordon: i have no sansa to test, i just thougt it might be related because these strange characters at the end of the padded title don't look like they belong there. 01.34.07 # JdGordon: oh, my h300 just froze too when exiting this setting, but for me it happened with english language while i had no problem with german. 01.34.08 Join TheCollector [0] (n=brian@r74-192-181-150.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) 01.35.00 Quit weezerle ("...und tschüss!") 01.36.24 Quit grndslm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.37.21 # I need some help fixing my BL and firmware on my sansa e250. I've followed all the steps, but I can't seem to make any permanent progress. 01.38.24 # after flashing the origional bl, it doesn't seem to be written 01.39.19 # There shouldn't be anything like "flashing" in the e200 install. 01.40.06 # sorry, I'm just using that as a generic term for writing the bootloader 01.40.22 # this is the sansa one, though 01.40.50 # TheCollector: you're attempting to uninstall rockbox? or update the original firmware or something? 01.41.31 # mud_: no, I accidentally nuked the first partition (the hidden one) while trying to get the microsd card to work 01.41.33 # TheCollector: How are you "flashing" the bootloader? Just transferring it with e200tool doesn't write it. 01.41.40 # ghah 01.41.45 # jhMikeS: around? 01.41.56 # yessir 01.42.08 # linuxstb: what else needs to be done then? 01.42.11 # jhMikeS: should we integrate this in your patch as well, then? 01.42.23 # TheCollector: What the "unbrick" page says... 01.42.35 # preglow: add eveything in that can be 01.43.03 # jhMikeS: aight's, updated patch coming soon 01.43.03 # TheCollector: Sorry, I've just read that page, and it's not clear... 01.43.10 # ok, great 01.43.28 # I was hoping ther ewas just something I missed 01.43.49 # preglow: i have a few tweaks of my own here 01.44.08 Quit radinp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.45.08 # jhMikeS: this SHOULD constitute a full kit, just testing should be needed 01.45.16 # and stuff like agreeing on encoder options 01.45.21 # -q 5 might be unnecessarily high 01.46.15 # linuxstb: after I use e200tool to recover the bl, do I need to run it again using the 'write' command? 01.47.20 # preglow: the quality sounds really high here 01.47.52 # jhMikeS: hold on, found some bugs 01.48.39 # I'm going to adjust the stack size down and aim for say 90 ,95%? coldfire uses the most stack. 01.49.38 # sure 01.49.50 # why not, stack size should be constant for a given speex mode, like i said 01.50.00 # TheCollector: See this page for some instructions - http://chrisjs.com/?page_id=57 (start at step 6) 01.51.08 # ah, guess I was missing copying the bl to that 16mb partition 01.51.47 # Yes. I'm surprised the wiki doesn't say that. 01.51.49 # 1824 bytes will be < 95% on coldfire 01.52.15 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 01.57.11 Join powr-toc [0] (n=user@84-51-129-124.rickmo645.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 01.57.14 # jhMikeS: http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/speex-voicebuilding.patch 01.57.19 # jhMikeS: apply and please try a voice build 01.57.36 # jhMikeS: just use configure like before, then choose advance, then voice, then the rest should be self-explanatory 01.58.05 # ok, gotta clean up. got the speex encoder or is that included? 01.58.13 # included 01.58.18 # wee 01.58.25 # that patch does what the old one does, but adds speex encoder 01.58.27 # shit 01.58.31 # i forgot the encoder itself 01.58.35 # :P 01.58.38 # do i need to svn add for that? 01.58.51 # probably, if using svn diff, i expect 01.58.57 # yes 01.59.12 # hmm, i'll just smack a license onto it first 01.59.53 # Minor point (it can be fixed later), but why does configure need to check for the presence of rbspeexenc? Couldn't it just be built when you do "make voice"? (similar to how the other tools/ things are built for a normal build) 02.00.19 # jhMikeS: updated 02.00.35 # linuxstb: does configure check for that? 02.00.45 # If I'm reading your diff correctly... 02.00.49 # right, i added it to the tools list 02.01.06 # The very first hunk in the diff... 02.01.10 # well, i guess it could... i'm all for not ever touching the build system again 02.01.39 # linuxstb: well, you'll be pleased to hear that's what happens 02.01.41 # preglow: really love the voice that you made for h100...quite audible through everything 02.01.46 # linuxstb: that segment is run on "make voice" 02.01.49 # I get a cannot load rockbox.ipod error 02.02.12 # powr-toc: That means you either forgot to extract rockbox.zip to your ipod, or did it wrongly. 02.02.22 # * preglow tries to remember which voice that was 02.02.53 # preglow: is it ready yet? 02.03.02 # jhMikeS: the patch? yes 02.03.07 Quit barrywardell () 02.03.29 # For some reason having Speex for voice seems is the most interesting thing to happen to Rockbox lately. At least for me. :) 02.03.31 # how much disk space does generating the pcm take? 02.03.38 # * safetydan is probably just weird 02.03.39 # preglow: Then I think you can simply remove that check from configure. 02.03.42 # jhMikeS: dunno, not much 02.03.51 # jhMikeS: btw, i removed a couple of more files in speex here, might give a kb or so less space taken 02.04.06 # got a link to something to use? I have no such tools 02.04.21 # linuxstb: well, it looks better than just puking when it's not there for some reason, doesn't it? 02.04.24 # and yeah you mentioned it earlier but I'm too lazy to go logging 02.04.26 # PaulJam: nuts, ok 02.04.33 # jhMikeS: windows? linux? 02.04.35 # linuxstb: I've extracted it so I have a .rockbox in my ipod root dir 02.04.39 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 02.04.50 # jhMikeS: espeak, festival, flite 02.04.54 # I use VMWare so I guess that's linux :) 02.04.58 # preglow: No - it _is_ there, it's just not built until you type "make voice" (which is after you run configure...) 02.05.21 # linuxstb: afaik, i think it's built with all the other tools as it is now... 02.05.25 # Why is it that every song gets included into the Database 4 times? Any way to correct this? iPod Nano with Tuesday's daily build. 02.05.33 # linuxstb: if you use voice or no 02.05.37 # preglow: Yes, but not until _after_ you run configure... 02.05.43 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 02.05.58 # linuxstb: oh, sure 02.06.15 # preglow: do I have to remove the last building patch? 02.06.39 # jhMikeS: yes 02.06.42 # jhMikeS: this one includes all of it 02.07.00 # and are these synths and apt-get thing or download somewhere? 02.07.00 # jhMikeS: they'll continue to do so if i update them, so do keep them hanging around for reversal 02.07.04 # powr-toc: And do you have a file called "rockbox.ipod" inside .rockbox? 02.07.05 # jhMikeS: apt 02.07.10 Join mud__ [0] (n=mud@dialup-4.156.9.237.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) 02.07.22 Nick mud__ is now known as mud-rb (n=mud@dialup-4.156.9.237.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) 02.07.30 # hope I have space for this...it's tight on my image 02.08.04 # the gen itself should be tight enough 02.08.22 # linuxstb: so building rbspeexenc no matter if you want voice or not is a-ok? 02.08.33 # linuxstb: yes 02.08.35 # ryanakca: Have you tried deleting the database files (*.tcd inside .rockbox) and rebuilding? 02.08.37 # ryanakca: check that you don't have duplicates of your songs in hidden directories 02.09.57 # preglow: which do you recommend of the voice synths 02.10.25 # preglow: No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you download a clean svn tree, run tools/configure, and select voice, you'll get an error saying rbspeexenc doesn't exist. (IIUC) 02.10.43 # safetydan: ok, will do. 02.10.51 # linuxstb: nope, I'll try that too :) 02.10.56 # linuxstb: true 02.11.02 # yes, yes it is 02.11.10 # linuxstb: i think i was assuming it'd be a binary or something when i wrote that 02.11.15 # linuxstb: seems to work now... I think it might have been a problem with writes not having flushed to disk... I'm using an automount. 02.11.26 # jhMikeS: i don't really know, i like espeak for its pronounciation, but it sounds metallic 02.11.32 # ryanakca: look in your trash folders, so Recycle Bin on Windows or .trash for Macs 02.11.36 # jhMikeS: it's also the smallest 02.11.52 # might the H100 one...I like that darth vader thing 02.12.10 # flite and festival try to sound natural 02.12.38 # powr-toc: Yes, "automount" isn't "autounmount"... 02.12.50 # espeak sounds like some half drunk guy you found in a pub and had talk into your ring modulator 02.13.36 # linuxstb: yeah... I forget sometimes :-\ 02.13.43 # thanks for your help anyway :) 02.13.46 Quit powr-toc (Remote closed the connection) 02.14.17 # safetydan: eh? why would I look in my trash folder? (Linux btw) 02.14.45 # they wouldn't be on my iPod, would they? 02.15.19 # * ryanakca thought they were in $HOME/.Trash ... hrm. 02.15.59 # ryanakca: it depends on the setup, but mostly they are on the same partition that you're deleting stuff from i believe, otherwise it would have to do copies all the time when you moved to trash... 02.16.13 # mud-rb: ah 02.16.32 # * ryanakca checks 02.17.44 # ryanakca: ah well the majority of ipod users tend not to be linux users. Bad assumption on my part. 02.18.04 # jhMikeS: did the rb binary get any smaller, btw? 02.18.33 # safetydan: hehe :D 02.19.10 # haven't built it yet...was having problems with apt-get wanting a new bloody kernel 02.20.19 # I do a quicky e200 make bin 02.21.20 # just got an error about inttypes.h in by bits.o...wtf 02.21.33 # linuxstb: have you ever installed the new fw and bl and had it fail even though it says upgrade successful? 02.21.42 # I don't own a Sansa 02.21.51 # ok 02.22.04 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.22.22 # apt-get totally borked my build environment 02.22.36 # that or it killed the path env variable 02.22.51 # it always goes back to manufacturing mode after it says upgrade finished 02.23.30 # jhMikeS: \o/ 02.23.44 # restart? 02.24.06 # *shrug* 02.24.18 # I wish - it just goes into recovery mode again 02.24.18 # i usually start screaming and swearing 02.24.23 # doesn't solve anything, but that's what i usually do 02.24.45 # whoops 02.25.01 Quit mud_ (Connection timed out) 02.25.41 # ugh...better just finish the upgrade 02.27.26 # ok, this things gonna pipe me through a whole list of upgrades...could be awhile 02.29.37 # safetydan: `du -a /media/IPOD/ | grep -i mp3 | gev -v kpod | sed -e 's@.*/media@/media@g' | sort` only lists two codec files in .rockbox/ and a couple image files for the themes... so I don't think it's any files hidden away. 02.30.22 # As for the database, I've tried having only one song on the iPod, and recreating the database, but it still shows the song 4 times in the database. 02.30.35 # s/gev/grep/ 02.31.22 # ryanakca: do you mean it appears four times in the same list? 02.31.41 # also, do you know if it is actually the same song? You might have some songs with duplicate tags. 02.31.58 Join tarehart [0] (n=Tyler@Bagw-08-238.rh.ncsu.edu) 02.32.48 Part linuxstb 02.33.10 # yes. say I have ABC and DFG on the iPod, the list goes 'ABC, ABC, ABC, ABC, DFG, DFG, DFG, DFG'. Because I removed all music from my iPod with amaroK and transfered one song to it. And, before, when I had a pile of songs on there, each and every song was listed 4 times in the database browser/list. 02.33.35 # s/amarok/Amarok/ 02.33.48 # I'm having trouble with a sansa e250R installation, can anybody help? 02.34.29 # tarehart, what are you having trouble with 02.34.35 # they must be joking...they give me sources.list entries for etch then it can't stat it :\ 02.34.53 # I'm using the automated installer and it can't find the player 02.35.25 # * preglow isn't too fond of deban 02.35.27 # debian 02.35.28 # you need to do the e200r steps 02.35.32 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@rockbox/developer/austriancoder) 02.35.50 # I need to go manual? 02.35.57 # tarehart: the manual says where you need to go 02.36.05 # it links to a page on the wiki 02.36.26 # tarehart: have you mounted your sansa? 02.36.42 # bootloader patching, gotcha 02.37.01 # I'll take this as far as I can and come back the next time I make a blunder 02.37.06 # thanks 02.38.14 Quit safetydan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.38.29 # ok, if you get that do the apt-get update thing _after_ adding the sources :\ 02.40.10 Mode "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 02.40.16 Mode "#rockbox -b *!*Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net " by scorche (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 02.40.22 Mode "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 02.41.43 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.42.37 Join WalkGood [0] (i=WalkGood@unaffiliated/walkgood) 02.43.17 Join Gnu47 [0] (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 02.44.26 Join Segadude [0] (n=sega@cpe-24-24-88-117.stny.res.rr.com) 02.44.39 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 02.44.44 # can rockbox play MIDIs 02.44.47 # ? 02.45.29 # Segadude: yes 02.45.37 # how? 02.46.29 # Segadude: same way as it plays everything else i believe 02.47.21 # a cool dude wrote a midi decoder/codec 02.47.38 # How do i get it? 02.47.59 # I think it comes with rockbox by default? 02.48.04 # Depending on the target, it does cough on files with more than 3 or 4 tracks in my experience.. 02.48.26 # yeah the one i;m trying to play has 33 02.48.31 # hehe 02.48.43 # It does come with rockbox by default, but you need to find a patchset (an instrument library..) The wiki page on PluginMidiPlayer has info and links to patchset.. 02.49.02 # ok thanks 02.49.34 # JdGordon: did you get my PM? 02.49.39 Part WalkGood 02.51.07 # breh 02.51.10 # i don't make clean properly either 02.54.05 # ok, I've got a new problem with installation 02.54.14 # this is tottaly fucked up now...must be a way out of this circular crap 02.54.29 # using windows? :P 02.54.33 # this pertains to sansa e250R bootloader patching 02.55.01 # using apt-get...the dependencies are circular 02.55.10 # PaulJam: soz, was afk.. i just saw it 02.55.14 # when I connect in manufacturer mode, windows vista isn't letting me install the driver I want 02.55.31 Join hoobop [0] (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) 02.55.41 # jhMikeS: I quit using debian because of that 02.55.46 # jhMikeS: i've had some crazy shit like you've never seen before with apt-get 02.55.55 # just traded that trouble for others when I switched to slack 02.56.16 # it truly is capable of just turning itself into useless fluff 02.56.51 # ah well, I'm not ready to redo everything right now...so I'll have to figure my way through it I suppose 02.56.55 Quit mud-rb (Remote closed the connection) 02.57.31 # tarehart, those drivers are for xp not vista at least 02.57.54 # that would explain it 02.58.12 # do I have any recourse, I wonder 02.59.09 # preglow: well, if you fixed the crazy shit, any pointers? 02.59.23 # jhMikeS: a couple so severe i just had to reinstall 02.59.43 # tarehart, if you do not have a xp machine you might have to burn a linux livecd and do the linux steps 02.59.43 # and no, i usually just break down whenever it happens 02.59.58 # that would be exciting 03.00.05 # jhMikeS: if i used some virtualization stuff, i'd just back up a known working image... 03.00.17 # well, thanks for the help so far 03.01.02 # beh...well I guess I could get a new image...copy the files over and restart 03.04.07 # what about using windows? 03.04.22 # sounded like you had a dev env running there anyway 03.04.47 Quit austriancoder (Remote closed the connection) 03.04.53 # aha...got it I think :) 03.07.33 # ugh...maybe noty 03.08.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.09.49 # :/ 03.09.58 Quit J3TC- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.10.02 # few things annoy me more than having to fight with my operating system 03.15.42 Nick ord is now known as qwm (n=qwm@h38n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 03.17.10 Quit Segadude ("Quitting!") 03.20.29 # to reboot on nano after building database, does that mean menu + select or play/pause followed by select? 03.20.40 # which frontend is usually installed with the VMWare image? 03.21.22 # as in WM? 03.21.50 # It shows Dialog/Readline/Gnome/... 03.22.32 # well, the image uses fluxbox... 03.25.53 # my installation still won't work, even on XP 03.26.12 # I'm following the instructions here - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200RInstallation 03.26.32 # on step 4 of the windows installer 03.27.01 # the "wizard" tells me it can't find a better match for my hardware than the software I currently have installed 03.27.55 Join oblib [0] (n=oblib@111-231-8-204.erd.cust.wirelessbeehive.com) 03.28.04 # can someone with a radio target please test the patch i attached to FS#8168 and elt me know if that fixes the problem? 03.28.39 # perhaps tomorrow, bedtime now :/ 03.29.25 Quit Guile`` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.29.46 Join Guile`` [0] (n=Guile@78.113.31.171) 03.30.56 # tarehart, those are the drivers that you downloaded 03.36.53 Quit PaulJam (".") 03.37.53 # it auto-installed them off my desktop? 03.38.22 Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) 03.38.32 # it's moot right now, though, because I just bricked the fucking thing 03.39.06 # or flashlighted it, you might say 03.39.36 # Is there anything I can do to help debug the nano problem? 03.41.54 # tarehart, what is it doing now 03.42.16 Join Mouser_X [0] (i=cf9bb003@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-0964c887b013eda9) 03.42.25 # the screen began to artifact into interlaced bands that converged on gray 03.42.36 # now the screen is all gray, and it is utterly nonresponsive 03.42.44 # What nano problem? 03.42.50 # can't turn it off 03.43.18 # tarehart: Just reboot it. 03.43.21 # male, selective (lucky) nano's haven't worked since July. Playback skips, and eventually the ipod crashes 03.43.43 # is there a special trick to rebooting it? 03.43.48 # oblib: Good thing I'm so unlucky. 03.43.51 # holding power does nothing 03.44.01 # male, tough for you I guess :) 03.44.49 # tarehart, remove the battery if the power button for 30 seconds 03.44.57 # Does anyone know enough about nano hardware to tell me where the timing is set up to access flash? 03.45.52 # cool, it booted 03.49.11 # still can't patch, though 03.49.51 Join radinp [0] (n=pradin@vpnwl-228-110.net.rpi.edu) 03.51.01 Join jpt9 [0] (n=chatzill@geodude-22.dynamic.rpi.edu) 03.51.06 # hey 03.51.20 # is there any way to get the scroll wheel to scroll by pages in the text viewer on the e200? 03.51.38 # also, an option to rotate the screen might be neat (as well as the ability to pick a different font for ebooks). 03.52.04 Join grndslm [0] (n=grndslm@24-116-87-97.cpe.cableone.net) 03.52.19 # hell, I think I'm just going to send this one back to woot.com and get a regular e250 03.52.31 # I think this one was refurbed for a reason 03.52.50 # tarehart: what's wrong with it? 03.52.57 # don't screw it up like I did 03.53.14 # nothing designed to recognize it can find it 03.53.24 # oh. 03.53.25 # not even the sensa media converter 03.53.36 # tarehart: what os are you running? 03.53.39 # vista 03.53.42 # oh 03.53.44 # amazon has the 8GB model (the e280) for only $120 :-) 03.53.51 # it shows up as usb mass storage, but that's it 03.53.58 # * jpt9 rockboxed his woot e250R, and is extremely happy. 03.54.10 # try the ubuntu livecd and see if you can get it working that way 03.54.24 # oh yeah, forgot that option already 03.54.33 # can I stick ubuntu on my thumb drive? 03.54.45 # probably, but not easily 03.54.52 # just burn it to a cd 03.54.54 # try damn small linux if you want to do that. 03.55.04 # (run linux off a USB key, that is...) 03.55.09 # ok 03.55.21 # I just don't have any CD-R's laying around 03.55.39 # jpt9: have you ever had to go into the recovery mode to replace the bootloader/fw on your e250? 03.55.48 # nope. 03.55.51 # i just got it today. 03.55.55 # ah 03.55.55 # and rockbox works perfectly... 03.56.04 # (well, i managed to crash it in the text viewer... 03.56.11 # but I was viewing a rather long product manual) 03.56.13 # are you using a microsd card with it? 03.56.42 # no. 03.56.45 # * Mouser_X is still waiting for his Sansa e250 to arrive... 03.56.47 # :( 03.56.48 # * jpt9 wants one. 03.57.01 # ah 03.57.21 # I had one and I couldn't write to the card 03.57.28 # hmm... 03.57.44 # yeah, and the card worked in my camera, so I know it's good 03.57.53 # I've got a developer question here. I'm looking to implement "the Karaoke Mode" feature request. It would seem pretty easy to implement but I'm having a hard time finding specifications for how Lyrics should be decoded from the mp3 metadata section. I've tried a standard google search and I've haven't come up with much. Any suggestions? 03.58.15 # Mouser_X: that fedex smartpost is incredibly slow, huh? 03.58.19 # I don't have mine yet (nor do I have a Micro SD to go with it), so I don't know how that works. Rockbox might only be able to read the card, and not write to it? 03.58.35 # smartpost wasn't too slow for me; about a week to get there. 03.58.59 # Yah, I thought it'd be about a week... 03.59.01 # ah, I live 200mi from woot.com's shipping facility, and it took almost a week 03.59.08 # sucky. 03.59.11 # yeah 03.59.18 # 200mi isnt that much.. slack buggers 03.59.19 # next time, don't bother ordering online. 03.59.21 # walk to woot... 03.59.24 # and ask them for one :-) 03.59.26 # thats what? 4h rive? 03.59.27 # Heh. 03.59.29 # hehe 03.59.33 # drive* 03.59.39 # JdGordon: about 03.59.47 # thats NOTHNG! 03.59.47 # that would work too. 04.00.09 # It'd save on shipping, but think about the gas prices. :P 04.00.09 # anyways, rockbox can't write to the card, but the default fw should be able to 04.00.27 # Mouser_X: esp. in my truck =( 04.00.37 # your petrol is cheaper than ours still... 04.01.08 # :( @ JdGordon 04.01.20 # yeah, I'm sorry for you 04.01.21 # I'm sorry to hear that. 04.01.39 # * JdGordon goned 04.02.09 # does anyone know if chrisjs hangs out on irc? 04.03.10 # do I just extract the damn small linux iso to my flash drive and then change the boot order? 04.03.20 # I have no idea who that is. I've heard of Chris J. Hampton, but he has nothing to do with Rockbox, that I'm aware of. 04.03.37 # Mouser_X: http://chrisjs.com/ 04.06.19 Part tarehart 04.06.29 # guess either him or daniel might be able to help 04.10.10 # That looks like an interesting build, but I'll probably stick to the SVN build. 04.11.17 # I tried it out for a while, but was about to go back to SVN when I bricked my sansa 04.11.48 # he comes on once and a while 04.11.57 Nick Doomed_ is now known as alienbiker99 (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 04.12.02 Quit andrewg877 ("leaving") 04.12.05 # chris or daniel? 04.12.11 # I'm guessing daniel 04.12.20 # chris 04.12.25 # ok 04.12.31 Join andrew_ [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162083094.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 04.15.58 # TheCollector: Bricked your Sansa? What'd you do? From what I've heard, there's little that you could have done to have bricked it. You should be able to recover it. 04.16.14 # How hard is it to brick a Nano? Like if I mess up the CPU or IDE timing? 04.16.26 # well, bricked is probably an overstatement, as I can get to recovery mode 04.16.28 Join mathayas [0] (n=tylerwoo@S0106001346fc5b99.pp.shawcable.net) 04.16.39 # hi, all 04.17.09 # I accidentally formatted the os/2 part. on it, and since then I haven't been able to do much 04.17.21 # does rockbox support the sansa c250? More precisely, does it support voice recording on the c200 port? 04.17.54 # yes; and I believe so 04.18.07 # not 100% on the recording though 04.18.10 # and, if I didn't know myself what all the recording options meant, I'd help out by adding that section the manual. but since I don't, can someone please explain (triggers? What are those) 04.18.38 # well, what can you do. All I want to do is use the internal mic but I'm not sure what options are available and if there are any, what they'd all mean 04.19.26 # I've got an ipod video and half the recording settings I'm all caught up in, I understand the bitrate, and the filetype (I can't really remember the option it was now, something like incoding), but I'm curious what the rest of the options meant, such as, um, let me grab my ipod video 04.20.38 # blargh its all discharged. anyway there was something like triggering, which wasn't at all speech accessible (at least the last time I checked), file path (self explanitory), but there were also a few more options. also, another question; how would I get into the flash card on the sansa- I was just browsing through the manual but I didn't see anything abou 04.21.09 # I didn't see any sd card support or anything - and I heard it doesnt support the second gen 200 series? was the 250 included in that? 04.21.19 # sorry for rambling on and everything 04.23.33 # Mathayas - The recording options aren't detailed in some manuals because (I think) it's still pretty recent.. If you look at the manuals for, say, the iriver hp120 they are detailed. 04.24.07 # (probably because recording has been functioning for a while on those targets) 04.24.10 # ah, thanks. and it has all the options the sansa does, recording wise, minus, perhaps, a few? 04.24.37 # hmmm yeah, I can see that. well, maybe I'll get brave enough to make a section in the manual, as little difference as it'd make 04.24.45 # mathayas - It had all the options my H10 has, mostly. And the H10 uses the almost-same chipset as Sansa so... 04.25.14 # so, in other news, I'm guessing since the e200 series is a bit older than the c200 series, that sd cards would be more in detail on that manual? 04.26.52 # I don't know.. I think I read the cards would work if they are pre-formatted (say, in a card-reader).. Don't take my word for it, though. But there are lots of threads about it in the forums. 04.28.00 # forems, of course. I'm such an idiot, but I'm just in need of a voice recording player and I don't know how much longer this one will be in stores for. thanks a lot, I appreciate this. oh, btw. any idea the runtime on the thing, and what does it mean user replaceable battery? its not just a double or tripple a battery? 04.28.26 Quit jpt9 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.30.27 # Can someone explain how the following C code works? IISFIFO_WR is an address offset: IISFIFO_WR = *dma_play_data.p++; 04.30.43 # How does that write to IISFIFO_WR address? 04.31.09 # It looks like it should reassign IISFIFO_WR to be the address of dma_play_data 04.31.16 # .p 04.33.20 # Oh, actually IISFIFO_WR = (*(volatile unsigned long*)(0x70002840)) 04.34.50 # never mind 04.38.57 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 04.42.01 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.42.18 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4ADD.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.43.51 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@pool-71-125-77-210.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 04.45.33 Join safetydan [0] (n=safetyda@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 04.47.27 # forems, of course. I'm such an idiot, but I'm just in need of a voice recording player and I don't know how much longer this one will be in stores for. thanks a lot, I appreciate this. oh, btw. any idea the runtime on the thing, and what does it mean user replaceable battery? its not just a double or tripple a battery? 04.47.36 # oops,, sorry 04.47.58 # I've done at least as bad. 04.48.23 # well, how long does the battery run on the c200? just curious- longer than the ipod? 04.48.37 # No idea, but probably. 04.48.37 # I'd think it would run longer, considering the fact there's no hdd 04.48.47 # That's my thinking. 04.48.57 # so what do you use as a player? 04.49.51 Join Anderoooo [0] (n=Anderooo@c-67-169-158-114.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 04.51.18 # I have a Gigabeat F40, though I've got a Sansa e250 coming in the mail. 04.51.30 # (I'll still be using the Gigabeat most of the time though.) 04.51.58 # g'evening folks.... 04.52.21 # i'm a newbie to rockbox, but i have a question regarding formatting on themes.. 04.52.44 # Since I'm not a psychic, it's usually best if you just come out and ask. 04.53.07 # the clock on my screen is displaying the right hour:Mc... 04.53.25 # for instance, right now it says "19:Mc" 04.53.51 # Anderoooo: sounds like your WPS needs updating for the current clock syntax 04.54.29 # Anderoooo: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS#Real_Time_Clock 04.54.33 Join atsea- [0] (i=atsea-@gateway/tor/x-04820c9893bd8669) 04.54.42 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 04.54.54 Join jpt9 [0] (n=chatzill@geodude-22.dynamic.rpi.edu) 04.55.04 Quit billenium (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.55.21 # safetydan: you rawk the casbah.. i'll give it a shot and let you know... =) 04.58.18 Join billenium [0] (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 05.00.30 # does album art work on grayscale bitmap displays? 05.01.19 # okay.. i found the problem... 05.01.38 # it was with the wps file for the blackglass mgr theme (nano) 05.02.06 # but now that i have corrected the typo, its not updating on the ipod 05.02.14 # is there something i need to refresh? 05.02.50 # Anderoooo: you may need to reselect the theme 05.03.00 # tried that 05.03.41 # the author accidentally put "%Mc" for the minute marker instead of %cM" 05.03.53 # not sure then as I don't play with WPS stuff that much 05.04.04 # cool.. thanks tho 05.05.55 # Anyone here have a Nano that doesn't work with recent builds? I need to test a fix 05.06.28 # i just installed my nano today with the current build and it works fine 05.07.01 # Did you compile it? 05.07.24 # negative... i let talented people do the hard work for me. =) 05.08.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.08.34 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.10.39 Part radinp 05.11.40 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.11.41 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 05.12.59 # Anyone here use a nano and compile their own source (and could test a patch for me)? 05.13.18 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp064.hk.centurytel.net) 05.15.46 Join bb__ [0] (n=bb@dslb-088-074-136-220.pools.arcor-ip.net) 05.17.16 Quit billenium (Remote closed the connection) 05.18.22 # anybody here have an ipod video? 05.18.23 Join billenium [0] (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 05.18.35 # yeah, me 05.19.08 # do you use album art? 05.19.24 # nope, got no use for it, since I'm blind. 05.19.33 # sorry 05.21.31 # * Mouser_X deleted all the album art on his player, to make more room for music. 05.23.50 # can somebody test this please? this is for the ipod video: http://stashbox.org/51216/Cobalt.zip 05.24.05 Quit Soap__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.24.18 Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 05.26.59 Quit midgey () 05.27.20 Quit mokkurkalve_ (Remote closed the connection) 05.27.23 Join mokkurkalve_ [0] (n=eivind@084202223083.customer.alfanett.no) 05.27.28 Quit bb (Connection timed out) 05.27.58 # oblib: I use a nano and compile. 05.29.11 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 05.32.03 # I would also like this one tested as well. same player: http://stashbox.org/51217/BlackGlass-AA.zip 05.32.50 # male, could you apply the patch I just pasted on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7510 and tell me if it breaks anything? 05.33.07 Quit animeloe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.33.08 # Should be as simple as playing a file and making sure it doesn't skip or anything 05.34.03 # I would, but the latest svn update broke my build :-( 05.34.21 # make[1]: *** No rule to make target `system.h', needed by `/home/male/dnl/src/rockbox/Rockbox/build-dir/firmware/ata_idle_notify.o'. Stop. 05.34.42 # did you 'make clean'? 05.35.04 # If that doesn't work, do tools/configure again 05.35.14 # I did configure. 05.35.47 # omment by oblib (oblib__) - Friday, 16 November 2007, 05:23 GMT+1 05.35.53 # Is this the patch you want tested? 05.36.06 # yup, the very bottom of the page 05.36.09 # Make clean doesn't help, btw. 05.37.27 # Anyone with a PP502x processor, please test my patch and let me know if it introduces skipping or breaks anything else. That would be ipod4g, h10, ipodvideo, ipodmini1g and 2g, and ipodnano 05.37.46 # Locate here http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7510 at the bottom of the page 05.39.44 # anybody know why i am getting this error? http://paste.uni.cc/17603 05.41.24 # psycho_maniac, you need to put arm-elf-gcc in your current path 05.41.25 # or do i have to redownload the source again? 05.41.42 # i have never had to do this before. why does it tell me to do this now? 05.41.55 # export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/arm-elf/bin/ 05.42.10 # Have you rebooted or something since you first set it up? 05.42.23 Part Anderoooo 05.42.35 Join animeloe [0] (n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe) 05.42.46 # im not sure. should i try a reboot? 05.43.43 # no 05.44.11 # if you reboot, your path is reset to default, unless you add the arm-elf to it in a config file somewhere 05.44.21 # Are you in linux? 05.44.45 # psycho_maniac: For cygwin, I had to put "export PATH=$PATH:/opt/arm/bin" 05.45.01 # no i didnt do anything but i noticed that my rockbox wallpaper is not there anymore 05.45.26 # I don't know if that command/ocation is the same for Linux though. 05.45.34 # */location 05.45.40 # i loaded it today noticed the wallpaper was not there and also the colors were different. 05.46.03 # after recompiling? 05.46.34 Join tarehart [0] (n=ubuntu@bec28117RN.rh.ncsu.edu) 05.46.45 # after reverting my svn 05.48.21 # Did you delete your config file? 05.48.33 # i didnt do anything. what config file? 05.49.02 # There is a config file in your .rockbox directory on your player which holds all your settings. If you delete .rockbox, your settings go too 05.50.01 # also what would make the colors go to (default?) and make my wallpaper dissappear 05.50.32 # deleting your settings would make everything go default. I don't know about wallpapers, I've never tried to use one. 05.50.58 # I'm in the middle of trying to install rockbox on a sansa e250R from ubuntu, and now I need a touch of linux help 05.51.15 # its the default one. shows rockbox in the background. 05.51.39 # psycho_maniac, sounds like you lost your settings 05.51.39 # I've got e200rpatcher.linux on my desktop 05.52.28 # what would i have to do to get my settings back? 05.52.29 # but sudo ./e200rpatcher.linux doesn't give me anything 05.53.32 # Unknown id, it says 05.53.37 # tarehart, are you in your Desktop directory? 05.53.46 # yes 05.53.57 # oblib: how did you figure out that bit on ide0? 05.54.37 # safetydan, looked at http://ipodlinux.org/PP5020 and saw the bit that said 0x10000000 - cpu > 65MHz and thought "hmmm, that looks suspicious" 05.55.16 # given that the problem manifested itself with a higher clock speed, and it seemed to be an IDE problem 05.55.49 # oblib: that pretty much matches with most peoples suspicions about the cause 05.56.28 # safetydan, those were the suspicions I was working off of 05.57.12 # be nice to get that one sorted out 05.57.55 Quit stewball (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.58.16 # I just barely tried to sync (since last May) and found this problem. Glad I could help 05.58.19 # anybody? 05.58.39 # tarehart, is it set for executable permissions? 05.59.02 # I'm a linux noob; how do I find out? 05.59.16 # rm -rf / 05.59.16 # how did i lose my settings? 05.59.19 # type ls -l 05.59.22 # ignore male 05.59.22 # *JUST KIDDING* 05.59.53 # on the left is the permissions, looks like "-rw-r--r--" 06.00.23 # You really want test -x foo && echo Yes! 06.00.36 # finially im back to only one patch again :) 06.00.37 # it looks exactly like that next to e200r... 06.00.38 # it should have an x, like "-rwxr--r--" 06.00.49 # oh, nope 06.00.55 # sudo chmod 755 e200r... 06.00.57 # -rw-r--r-- 06.01.08 # that makes it executable for root, group, and world 06.01.20 # learn about permissions some time, it's important 06.01.29 # ok 06.01.42 # Not as important as having an Ubuntu coffee mug... 06.01.48 # holy moley, it's working! 06.02.10 # will post trip report soon 06.02.25 # thanks for the help so far 06.02.33 # yup 06.04.11 # safetydan, are you a developer? 06.05.02 # Anyone with a pp502x dap other than H10 would try to create a screendump? I'd just like to know if I report a bug specific to that platform (h10) or to the Portalplayer chipset. 06.05.42 # (screendump fail, and usb detection hangs, leaving the status bar reporting charging even when cable is out) 06.06.01 Part tarehart 06.09.47 # PaulPosition, I've got a nano sitting here, what should I do? 06.10.51 # oblib - Usually, you'd go into system->debug->screendump. When it says 'screendump enabled', you can plug the usb and unplug it to trigger a screendump. It *should* create a .bmp in the root of the dap. 06.10.59 Quit midgey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.11.32 # What I get is no .bmp, plus the statusbar keeps reporting the cable is plugged in and it's charging. 06.11.54 # oblib: yeah, though I haven't done much for a while 06.12.24 # PaulPosition, how long do I leave it plugged in? until it switches to disk mode? 06.12.37 # oblib - No need to, a second is enough. 06.12.39 # safetydan, just wondering who should make the decision on whether to commit my fix or not 06.13.33 # PaulPosition, works fine 06.13.45 # PaulPosition, that causes your H10 to crash? 06.13.49 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 06.13.53 # oblib - btw, what does it fix? I might update my svn now that I pinpointed my screendump problem (backtracked to september 4, lol). 06.13.55 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 06.14.21 # oblib - nope. Just no screendump AND the device doesn't sense the usb getting unplugged. 06.14.25 # PaulPosition, some Nanos were getting skipping and lockups with a change done back in July 06.14.26 # oblib: probably one of the devs who actually has a nano. Try talking to amiconn when he shows up 06.14.57 # yeah, amiconn "found" the bug in the first place with a bunch of changes he made 06.15.21 # PaulPosition, can you try my patch and see if it causes you any problems? 06.15.39 # oblib - In a few minutes, I will :) 06.16.06 # ok i guess i had to redownload the srouce again :( 06.16.25 # oblib - So you did get a .bmp in your root, right? thanks. 06.16.47 # PaulPosition, yes, three of them, because I got no indication that it was doing anything 06.16.54 # PaulPosition: are you using patches? this could cause the problem 06.17.01 # I guess my file browser is set to ignore .bmp files 06.17.49 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 06.17.57 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 06.18.08 # psycho_maniac, your settings are stored in .rockbox/config.cfg, so if you ever overwrite or delete that file, you lose your settings. If you back it up, you can restore them later if you accidently kill it 06.18.22 # psycho_maniac, I missed your question before, sorry, hence the late reply 06.18.55 # thats ok. i only takes me 2.5 hours to download the source ;) 06.20.11 # Well, reported 'my' unimportant bug as FS#8170 ... Now to update and see if oblib's patch screw my h10. 06.20.22 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.22.22 # PaulPosition: do you have an ipod video? 06.25.39 # what player is this changed applied for? 06.25.40 # Work in progress fixes to the remote button handling. Now the remote can be unplugged and then plugged in and it will work.   06.25.52 # change done by Nils Wallménius   06.26.19 # psychomanic - sorry, nope. iRiver h10 is all I got. 06.27.21 # psychomaniac - Not at all (patches), no. I retrieved and built 17 different svn revisions to pinpoint the bug so... :p 06.27.38 # anybody here that uses album art and has an ipod video want to test a theme i think i fixed. 06.27.47 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 06.29.18 # oblib - So where can I find your patch to try and see if it bork my h10? 06.29.47 # PaulPosition, oh, I thought you were testing. Here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13788.0 06.30.44 # You shouldn't see any difference. If it breaks something it would most likely be skipping in music, especially processor intensive codecs 06.31.42 # oblib your patch doesn't apply. 06.32.15 # male, ? 06.32.49 # patch: **** malformed patch at line 4: MLCD_SCLK_DIV = 0x00000001; /* Mono LCD bridge serial clock divider */ 06.33.46 # male, did you copy and paste it into a file? Do you have any extra lines anywhere? 06.34.10 # oblib: Yes. No extra lines. 06.34.22 Quit jhMikeS ("Meow!") 06.34.28 # oblib: mightn't you just attach it as a file? 06.34.51 # probably should. Are you looking at the bug report or the forum post? 06.34.59 # Processor heavy codecs would probably be NSF, and SPC. Just pointing that out, in case using them is helpful. 06.35.04 # I'm looking at the link you gave me ;-) 06.35.21 # NSF is actually fairly light I believe. SPX are good. 06.35.40 # oblib: I have 1.2 firmware, btw. 06.35.45 Join jurrie_ [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 06.35.54 # male, shouldn't matter. That was a red herring 06.36.02 # Huh. I didn't know that for NSF. 06.36.45 # Is it a problem with the 4GB nano then? 06.36.48 # Mouser_X, my method of testing: play file, and then load the plasma demo. If plasma updates a lot, that means a processor intensive codec. I don't know if that is true or not 06.36.56 # male, only some 4GB nanos 06.37.08 # Mine is a 2GB. 06.38.42 # male, I added patch. I want to see if it breaks a nano that didn't have the problem previously. 06.39.12 # male, on the bug web page, I mean 06.40.27 # male, it was a spacing issue. The bug post did not preserve leading spaces 06.40.54 # It's okay, I applied it manually. 06.40.57 # I just wanted you to know. 06.41.14 # oblib - got the same sort of error as male, gonna dl the file and see... 06.42.14 # PaulPosition, look here for file: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7510 06.43.09 # I just saw you uploaded it... building now. 06.43.25 # oblib: what am I looking for? 06.44.00 # Not sure I have any real 'processor intensive' file to test, though... ~200kb vbr mp3 is what I have, mostly.. 06.44.05 # See if playback works fine. If there's a problem you might see skipping, or lockups. Play a couple of different files, maybe run a plugin at the same time 06.44.26 # The plasma demo seems pretty processor intensive 06.44.29 # * male is playing some Johnny Cash and running demos. 06.44.43 # I'll say. 06.44.49 # Slow. But no skips. 06.44.56 # what's slow? 06.45.00 # Plasma. 06.45.18 # Slow and jerky. 06.45.26 # yeah. I think you can see when the processor speed bumps up and down. 30Mhz for slow, and 80 MHz for faster jerks 06.45.27 # Should it not be? 06.45.35 # Since the problem is ATA, there's really not much point in running a plugin *after* buffering completes 06.45.39 # That's what I see to (and saw before patch) 06.45.49 # At that point you're running from RAM, so any IDE or ATA related fix shouldn't matter 06.46.00 # Llorean, the idea is to get more processor speed bumps 06.46.11 # oblib: No. 06.46.13 # Well, I'm skipping through tracks and shit and nothing weird yet. 06.46.17 # The processor is always boosted during buffering. 06.46.39 # Llorean, okay, I couldn't think of any other way to stress it 06.46.46 # You don't need to stress the processor... 06.47.00 # in that case, skip around, load different playlists, etc. 06.47.07 # It's always boosted during buffering, and the data almost certainly must be corrupted either during the transfer from flash to RAM. 06.47.22 # These are all ogg/vorbis files BTW. 06.47.42 # Seems to be working fine. 06.47.54 # I would think it would. Thanks for checking for me 06.48.03 # PaulPosition, you seeing anything weird? 06.48.15 Quit jurrie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.49.17 # Llorean, have you looked at the patch yet? Can you see any problems that could arise from interrupts or anything? I'm not much of an embedded systems programmer 06.49.35 # copying files... My computer is a dog, takes time to 'make' :p 06.49.59 # oblib: Honestly, I've no clue. There are much better people to ask, probably. Maybe wait 'till amiconn's around, he might have an idea. 06.50.00 # I don't know what happens if the IDE_CFG bit is set, but the processor is < 65MHz 06.50.16 # But wouldn't it be something that should branch to only nano-specific builds? (or is that unRockbox?) 06.50.43 # PaulPosition: Hardware config is almost always specific to single or small ranges of players. 06.50.58 # PaulPosition, it's something that applies to all PP205x, but has never been used. Apparently it was only necessary in these few Nanos 06.51.30 # PaulPosition, if there are problems with other players, we can limit it to Nanos, but I don't believe there will be 06.52.04 # oblib: the only thing I'd check is whether to clear that bit before or after the pll changes 06.52.28 # Any way to weight with/without patch applied? Like a plugin with fps meter or something? Or is that irelevant? 06.52.50 # PaulPosition: FPS? 06.52.59 # safetydan, yeah, that's what I don't know. If it interrupts after the bit change, but before PLL, we could see IDE reads with that bit set. I don't know what that does. 06.53.03 # err, frame per second.. 06.53.04 # PaulPosition, does not apply 06.53.04 # Fuckups Per Second. 06.53.10 # ah. 06.53.10 # PaulPosition: I mean, why are FPS relevant? 06.53.56 # Dunno, I would have thought if we're looking whether things becomes sluggish or iresponsive then fps would suffer but -- what do I know? nothing, really. :p 06.55.11 # Okay. Well this *is* interesting : it just hangs on the bootscreen. 06.55.29 # PaulPosition, what we're looking for is disk reads during a processor boost. The way to test is loading different files/playlists 06.55.41 # PaulPosition, hmm, that's never good. Maybe it's nano only after all 06.55.58 # Let's reset and try again.. (/me takes the battery out) 06.56.26 # to be sure ah... went through this time. :p 06.56.44 # interesting 06.57.00 # maybe in your case a couple of reboots/reloads would be useful 06.57.18 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 06.57.51 # Hmm.. But froze on the first mp3 I tried playing. Let's go for reboot #2. 06.58.47 # Is the H10 a hard drive player, or flash? 06.59.16 # hard drive. 06.59.46 # Hmm hang on boots again.. How do I revert a patch? Gonna test a clean svn to be sure the problem isn't elsewhere.. 06.59.54 # patch -R -p0 ... ? 07.00.10 # oh, almost. 07.00.25 # PaulPosition, I'm not sure 07.00.47 # PaulPosition: -R is correct. 07.01.25 # safetydan, looks like it's not a problem. I just remove the un-setting of the bit, and it works just fine. So technically that bit should only need to be set during init, though that goes against the register description 07.01.47 # *remove=removed 07.02.11 # oblib: well that's either going to require some reverse engineering or a lot of testing to verify 07.02.13 # mo0ning 07.02.22 # oblib, PaulPosition: That patch is clearly broken 07.02.36 Join radinp [0] (n=pradin@psyduck-08.dynamic.rpi.edu) 07.02.46 # amiconn, clearly in general, or clearly for PaulPosition? 07.03.04 # Heh... clearly for me. booted once in 10 reboots. 07.03.15 # It only clears the bit at >65MHz on PP5020, and only sets it at <65MHz on PP5022/5024 07.03.18 # So looks like it's Nano only then 07.03.38 Join webguest22 [0] (i=cc6f6813@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0c9668172b4cc3df) 07.03.38 # ? Is my bit logic backwards? 07.03.47 # allo 07.04.12 # (1) backwards and (2) switches only one direction ona yn PP502x 07.04.13 # any super smart troubleshooters on? 07.04.26 # s/ona yn/on any/ 07.04.45 # <= not fully awake ;) 07.05.04 # webguest22 - lots of super, many smart, some troubleshooters. Shoot up your question and we'll see who qualifies. 07.05.20 # IDE0_CFG &=~(0x10000000); clears the bit, no? 07.05.36 # yes 07.05.48 # But you need to clear it at <65MHz iiuc 07.05.51 # IDE0_CFG |= (0x10000000); sets the bit 07.05.58 # so does anyone ever have a problem when they turn up there volume rockbox will sto playing music and then will not let me play any until i reset it? 07.06.04 # huh, you're right... 07.06.16 # YOu can leave out the () btw, they're just visual noise 07.06.27 # For some reason I thought normal was first. 07.06.33 # oblib: And you forgot CPUFREQ_DEFAULT altogether 07.06.37 # () is left over from copy/paste 07.07.05 # webguest22: on what player? 07.07.11 # webguest - never heard that one. Recent build? 07.07.29 # it happend in an old build from almost 2 years ago 07.07.43 # i finally got mad at it and got the latest a month ago maybe 07.07.46 # same problem 07.08.03 # Btw, I always thought it's ata timing, but I don't really like this obscure >65MHz bit. ATA timing on PP needs to be researched; that'd be a job for someone with soldering capabilities and a logic analyser 07.08.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.08.21 # webguest22: what player? And you should always try the latest current build before reporting issues. 07.08.54 # before it just stoped playing then if i hit play again it would play but i had to cut down the volume, with the latest build i have to cut it off and back on for it to work and cut the volume down 07.09.01 # gigabeat player 07.09.48 # webguest22: How high does your volume go? Mine goes to +6, and I've never had any problems going that high. 07.10.07 # (I would assume that all Gigabeats go to +6) 07.10.09 # do you have replay gain enabled? 07.10.17 # amiconn, what makes it obscure? Just because no one set it before? 07.10.41 # webguest22: There is no way you had a build from 2 years ago... 07.10.46 # It's obscure because it doesn't good backup from research 07.10.54 # mine goes to about -20 07.11.05 # mine goes to about 12 if I'm not mistaken 07.11.15 # amiconn, do you know who defined it on the ipod linux page? Where do those definitions come from? 07.11.28 # oblib, PaulPosition: Here's a patch that does it in the correct places: http://amiconn.dyndns.org/ide-timing.diff 07.11.29 # wait sorry -7 07.11.50 # is about when it freezes 07.11.53 # webguest22: The only "audio enhancement" I use is crossfeed, so RG is turned off for me. 07.12.06 # hmm, amiconn, it breaks it for me when I "fix" it 07.12.41 # * Mouser_X has a Gigabeat, just to clarify. 07.12.45 # F40 07.13.21 # yes same and all i have is Crossfeed aswell 07.13.29 # oblib: I don't know who did the research, and the ipl findings helped a lot. But there are many which are incomplete or imprecise 07.13.35 # * mathayas wonders how much runtime the sansa c200 series? 07.13.40 # it used to not happen, for a year and a few months, 07.14.28 # amiconn, in your patch, why did you set the bit outside of the #if CONFIG_CPU == PP5020? 07.14.44 # another strange thing is it onl;y happens when headphones/speaker/car adapter is pluged in 07.14.49 # Because it applies bot to the 5020 and 5022 07.15.17 # only with nothing pluged in will it run high volumes without it freezing 07.15.28 # The way you had it, it would have never been set on your nano. Only cleared, at 80MHz, and then left that way forever 07.15.53 # webguest22, then that sounds like a hardware defect 07.16.09 # damn that sucks 07.16.20 # webguest22: As I said, I can max-out at +6, and I've had no issues to speak of. I've never used the "base" or cradle, and I use headphones/the remote all the time. 07.16.22 # and was what i was afraid of but thanks anyways 07.17.15 # webguest22: You didn't have Rockbox on Gigabeat for over a year... it hasn't had sound for a year yet in SVN. 07.17.42 # i took mine apart to try to troubleshoot it, see if the headphone jack was messed up, but its built into the chip so theres nothing i can do 07.17.47 # maybe not a year but close to it 07.18.37 # If I'm not mistaken, the Gigabeat didn't get sound until very late in Dec. 2006. 07.18.46 # Mouser_X: 29 Dec 07.19.02 # That is indeed very late... 07.19.06 # At least official Rockbox didn't. 07.19.17 # Either way, his initial "Two years" is quite impossible. But it sounds like a hardware concern anyway 07.19.24 # then i got it almost a year ago, because i was looking forward to it for quite some time 07.19.26 # (I was thinking after Christmas, but I wasn't sure by how far.) 07.19.29 # amiconn, looks to me I would only set it at normal, and never clear it 07.19.40 # it's under #elif (CONFIG_CPU == PP5022) 07.20.00 # ah, yes 07.21.29 Quit jpt9 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.21.54 # which explains why it broke when I tried to fix the set/reset 07.21.59 # Btw, the Nano, the Video, and the H10 have the "CPU >50MHz" bit set at boot, but the mini G2 does not. 07.22.01 # Works fine again now, using your patch 07.22.12 Quit webguest22 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.22.12 # The low bits are different all over 07.22.27 # amiconn, where is the > 50M bit set? 07.22.27 # amiconn, would you happen to know how iCatcher is licensed? i can't find a license for it and your nick is in the wpsbuild script 07.22.34 # Now tell me this doesn't need research... 07.22.47 # amiconn, all I know is that it works for my Nano. 07.22.55 # PaulPosition, have you tried amiconn's patch yet? 07.22.58 Join ddalton_ [0] (n=Daniel@203-217-95-172.dyn.iinet.net.au) 07.23.03 # krazykit: I have no idea. My nick is probably in wpsbuild because I fixed/changed something 07.23.17 Quit safetydan ("Leaving.") 07.23.26 # finishing building... 'told you my rig lacks hamster power.. 07.23.33 # Genre9mp3 made iCatcher iirc 07.23.45 # Im trying to build on my debian box. However my path is wrong. (I had the same prob on cygwin before) Do I just follow the profile part of this? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment 07.23.46 # i suppose i'll email him then 07.23.54 # about editing the profile with the correct path 07.23.56 # oblib: Somewhere in the original bootloader, not in rockbox 07.23.56 # ? 07.24.04 Quit Mouser_X ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.24.17 # i suppose that's his real name in the WPS itself, then. 07.24.30 # I have dumps of the ata register range from various pp targets 07.24.54 # (but not all) 07.26.44 # hello? 07.26.53 # anyone around? 07.27.03 Join Mouser_X [0] (i=cf9bb003@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-b2fef1dea2617e00) 07.27.31 # ddalton_, you should follow http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling for a real linux box 07.28.02 Quit Mouser_X (Client Quit) 07.28.20 # ddalton_, your path needs to include where ever you compiled arm-elf 07.28.45 # or whatever you are using to compile 07.30.12 # Hmmm, freeze on boot or on first try at playing a song. (amiconn's patch).. Let me try a clean unpatched rockbox though, maybe I borked my player by installing too many times since last format. (must be the 20th install today) 07.30.30 # PaulPosition: What target, btw? 07.30.40 # h10 5gb 07.30.43 # ah 07.31.00 # ok thanks. Ill take a look. I did use rockboxdev.sh so thought that would handle it for me 07.31.47 # amiconn, I did get one other nano tested (2GB) by male and he said it worked for him. 07.32.27 Join Mouser_X [0] (i=cf9bb003@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-d7ab2f14d137f36b) 07.34.05 # hmmm...? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling is win related 07.34.13 # amiconn, oblib - Okay, no reformat and just install an unpatched current svn and no problem at all. 07.34.16 # "wordpad"? "cmd window"? 07.34.45 # with amiconn's patch? So not quite "unpatched" :) 07.36.45 # oblib - Nope. without amiconn's patch. with it it was more of the same : froze on boot thrice, and on playing a song the one time it booted. 07.37.06 # ddalton_, sorry, try this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide 07.38.10 # PaulPosition, amiconn, so looks like nano only. And it should probably be tested on more nanos. 07.38.36 # so what should I do since I have already ran rockdev.sh? 07.38.38 # It might be a temporary fix for nano, until proper research of PP ide happens 07.38.42 # Well I think I'm done for the night. Good morning amiconn, and good whatever PaulPosition thanks for the help 07.38.42 # rockboxdev.sh 07.39.35 # oblib - thanks to you for trying something :) 07.40.08 Join LinusN [0] (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 07.40.13 Quit oblib ("Leaving") 07.41.19 # LinusN: What do I do after running rockboxdev.sh on my debian machine. GCC isn't in my path. 07.41.24 Join stewball [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.104.233.249) 07.41.39 # ddalton_: then put it in your path 07.41.57 # LinusN: Just edit /etc/profile ? 07.41.58 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.42.09 # ddalton_: for example 07.42.52 # amiconn: Honestly, I fear that these occasional disk-corrupted Nanos might be from the bug. Do you think this patch is relatively safe to commit? 07.42.59 # LinusN: like the cygwin one? 07.43.03 # Playback glitches are one thing, but if this bug is causing people to lose all their data, that's kinda bad. 07.43.07 # ddalton_: yes 07.43.19 # LinusN: Same file and path? 07.43.24 # Llorean: It obviously needs to be limited for nano 07.43.25 # and code or whatever 07.43.26 # what does this patch do? 07.43.39 # Regarding http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8170 .. It's pretty trivial (I would have set priority low if I could) but in these days of big changes in WPS world, screendumps could be useful.. 07.43.46 # amiconn: Of course. 07.43.54 # ddalton_: yes, /etc/profile is the one, if you want all users on your machine to have the gcc path 07.44.03 Quit radinp (Remote closed the connection) 07.44.22 # LinusN: Thanks. I shall do that 07.44.25 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.45.45 Join Darksaboteur [0] (n=chatzill@75.73.87.203.static.nsw.chariot.net.au) 07.46.24 # 'nyway, hope y'all have a great day/night.. my pillow's calling. 07.50.39 Quit PaulPosition () 07.50.57 Part mathayas 08.11.47 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 08.15.36 Join AstralFires [0] (i=7bfc9d42@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-70bc37833dc47c00) 08.16.50 # * amiconn wonders about austriancoder's last commit 08.17.54 # We clearly state that actual code should never go into .h files. Only macros and inline stuff 08.18.51 # * scorche points amiconn to http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2007-11/0034.shtml 08.19.43 # hello everyone 08.20.05 # howdy 08.20.33 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B15B3A.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.21.25 # i need some help.. 08.22.29 # i have successfully installed rockbox on my 3gen ipod 30 gb.. & it works fine but has developed a major problem now 08.22.55 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 08.23.17 # when connected to the pc through usb.. win xp does not detect it anymore.. earlier i never had such a problem.. ive even tried it on another pc.. 08.23.39 # ipod is on & fully charged.. 08.23.47 # are you booting into the OF 08.26.26 # whats OF ? 08.26.39 # origional firmware 08.27.44 # is the 3rd Gen the one which does both firewire and usb ? 08.28.34 # * amiconn still needs a tester with an iPod 4th Gen grayscale *or* an iPod Mini 1st Gen ... :| 08.29.06 # its auto booting into rockbox now.. 08.29.11 # try a post in the forums too amiconn ? 08.29.54 Part AstralFires 08.31.09 # GodEater: Hmmmmmmmm. I'm not a friend of the forums, and the tests require a bit of knowledge as they are 08.31.56 # what are you testing ? 08.32.13 # PP 'mono' lcd bridge configuration and timing 08.32.26 # ah - as you mentioned yesterday 08.32.46 # amiconn: i have a friend with one if you cant find someone else after a bit 08.32.56 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy15.netz.sbs.de) 08.34.20 # There are 4 groups of targets with this bridge and identical hookup within that group. I need to test at least one of each group 08.35.22 # (1) iPod 1st..3rd gen (done myself, on 2nd gen). (2) Mini 2nd gen (done myself). (3) Sansa c200 (done by pixelma). (4) iPod 4th gen + Mini 1st gen (not done) 08.36.59 Join AstralFires [0] (i=7bfc9d42@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f65495e31a247228) 08.37.21 # (1) ~2x speedup, (2) 30..40% speedup. (3) ~3.5x speedup (!!) 08.37.53 # amiconn: should that also apply to e200 series? 08.37.57 # For (4) I need to know whether we're not driving the bridge too fast 08.38.02 # nanok: Not at all 08.38.12 # nanok: greyscale 08.38.20 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.38.26 # While the c200 is color, it for some reason uses the grayscale bridge. 08.38.39 # Or 'mono' rather 08.38.40 # amiconn can u see any possible solution to my predicament 08.39.25 # Afaik you need to boot into the OF for USB on 3rd gen 08.40.17 # On 3rd gen, rockbox won't detect USB, hence not reboot. And rockbox can't do usb itself on portalplayer targets yet 08.40.23 # Firewire is auto-detected 08.41.04 # Llorean: In fact I don't like these names, as the bridge itself is neither mono nor colour. That's why I just called them LCD1_* and LCD2_* in pp5020.h 08.42.05 # But calling them 'simple bridge' or 'newer bridge' would also be cumbersome, and bridge 1/2 too ... 08.42.10 # oh, i see. i thought it was possible to do the same on the e's also. now i am really thinking i should have gotten a c instead, colour is utterly useless most of the time.. 08.42.31 # The e200's lcd update is really fast already 08.42.42 # ? 08.43.01 Join webguest47 [0] (i=c76ff1a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1e40195180f8df2d) 08.43.21 Join pondlife [0] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 08.43.27 # In fact it's the fastest colour target, lcd wise (as far as the list shows - e.g. gigabeat is missing completely there) 08.43.46 # anyone around use a sansa e200 with a microsd card? 08.44.16 # amiconn: it was just a matter of useless versus minimal. i usually like minimal better ;), the e200 is fine indeed 08.44.37 # amiconn: i am still sad now sigmatel's have been ported yet, because of that 08.44.40 # amiconn: is there anyway to switch back to the original firmware or disable rockbox from the ipod ? as i cannot connect my ipod through usb anymore 08.45.09 # I use a sansa e250, but not with a microsd 08.45.12 # Hold Menu while booting, or enable hold directly after power-on. It's all in the manual 08.45.23 # You can also boot into diskmode manually 08.45.30 # I've got a situation where my Rockbox has locked up.. is there any way to reboot it? 08.45.39 # Short of letting the battery die? 08.45.40 # TheCollector, if you have a question, just ask it, don't ask if anyone is around 08.45.41 # That should even be mentioned in the apple manual (on the 2nd gen it is) 08.45.47 # webguest47: hold power for ~15 seconds 08.46.21 # Thanks a ton :-) 08.47.07 Quit webguest47 (Client Quit) 08.49.58 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98215a22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dc6e099040bf37f1) 08.50.04 Quit AstralFires ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 08.51.06 # amiconn: Did you see the update on Flyspray regarding the Nano ATA issue? 08.51.23 Quit Darksaboteur ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.9/2007102514]") 08.52.05 # there appears to be a post in the forums about it too 08.52.54 # * GodEater wonders what the mystery bit *really* does 08.52.56 # pondlife: Check this morning's logs... 08.53.05 # amiconn: i have the friend with the 1st gen mini's attention...what do you need him to do? 08.53.16 Join Astral_Fires [0] (i=7bfc9d42@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-20d9d5845c508bb3) 08.53.51 # scorche: First I want to know the current value of LCD1_CONTROL. Output that on the ports debug screen 08.54.46 Join bEnN [0] (n=chatzill@dsl-58-6-92-52.act.westnet.com.au) 08.54.51 # If that is done, and it's 0x4687 or 0x4685, the next tests would involve changing that, and then test fps and look for display corruption / pixel garbage, especially at 80MHz 08.54.58 Quit perrikwp ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 08.55.18 # hey guys 08.55.36 # The values to test would be 0x4487, 0x4287 and 0x4087 (ordered by increasing speed) 08.56.12 # would ne1 be able to link me to a tutorial on creating themes? 08.56.19 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 08.57.39 # amiconn: thx a lot, u have been of great help to me :) 08.59.48 # should i also delete internal_rom_000000-0FFFFF.bin from the ipod for a clean uninstall ? 09.01.34 # Astral_Fires: it's certainly not needed - so yes you can delete it 09.02.15 # can some1 help me create a basic theme with a new bg and icons? 09.02.22 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.02.44 # bEnN: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToWPSMaking 09.02.53 # bEnN: and please stick to proper english here "some1" is not a word 09.03.11 # thx and ill remember that next time, soz 09.03.25 # you just did it again :( 09.03.34 # oh ok sorry 09.03.39 # IM LERNING! 09.03.51 # to type english ? 09.04.14 # yea, im happily fluent in msn though 09.04.21 # we dont use msn here 09.04.50 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.04.55 # yea 09.05.05 Join CaptainSquid83 [0] (n=Miranda@proxy15.netz.sbs.de) 09.05.18 Quit Astral_Fires ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 09.05.31 Quit nanok (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.06.58 # Am I right in thinking that if album art is present for any given file, it will always be loaded into the buffer, regardless of the WPS ? 09.08.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.13.55 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 09.13.55 # GodEater: are you busy? i was wondering if you could test something for me on the ipod video. a theme? 09.15.41 # sure 09.16.36 # you need album art? is that a problem? 09.16.57 # http://stashbox.org/51216/Cobalt.zip 09.17.27 # if im exporting a backdrop as a bmp, does it matter if its a 24 bit, 256 or that? 09.17.57 Join tierra [0] (n=tierra@ibaku.net) 09.17.58 # bEnN: it has to be as high as 32 i think. 09.18.05 # ah - I don't have any album art 09.18.15 # ok 32 bit pr colors? 09.18.20 # or 09.18.35 # 32 bit, not 32 colour 09.18.46 # ok ty 09.18.54 # thank you i mean 09.20.09 # ok GodEater i am reuploading the wps but this time it has a very basic album art cover. will that work? 09.20.44 Quit CaptainSquid (Remote closed the connection) 09.21.04 Join crwl [0] (n=crawlie@a88-114-143-95.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 09.21.15 Part Mouser_X 09.21.25 # http://stashbox.org/51241/Cobalt.zip 09.21.34 # the background and foreground color, what do they afect? 09.22.33 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 09.22.39 # change them on your player and find out? 09.22.40 # psycho_maniac: I'll try it now 09.22.58 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 09.23.12 # ill mess around with the later 09.23.35 # GodEater: are you running any patches? 09.23.37 # amiconn: sorry for the delay...needs updating... 09.23.54 # how can I check what the fonts look like without my ipod 09.24.50 # psycho_maniac: only the keyclick patch currently 09.25.08 # alright that is ok. 09.25.26 # looks nice 09.25.31 # but obviously I have no AA 09.25.42 # can you change that cover.bmp to 100x100? i forgot to do that part 09.25.58 # bEnN: http://www.rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/ 09.26.01 Join sidlet [0] (n=chuck@76.2.176.115) 09.26.30 # psycho_maniac: there isn't a cover.bmp 09.26.43 # hmm. 09.26.44 # thanks 09.27.25 # scorche: guess I can move the conversation here 09.27.32 # GodEater: this is not my wps this is somebodys on the wiki now. i just changed it to work for the current svn 09.27.59 # tierra: did you see what amiconn said before? 09.28.06 # no 09.28.40 Join webguest44 [0] (i=c76ff1a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cd1df8096306cca0) 09.29.15 # The audio from my sansa e250 sounds really funny - a lot of instrumentation is missing in the songs. Is there a way I can set all my sound settings back to their default? 09.29.27 Nick bb__ is now known as bb (n=bb@dslb-088-074-136-220.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.30.07 # anybody ever have a patch compile correctly but it will not work correctly on the ipod? 09.30.25 # meaning no hunk errors or anything but it will crash the player? 09.30.36 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.30.53 # amiconn: sorry, metacity keeps freezing up for some reason, I'll have it in a minute though 09.35.39 # amiconn: where can I find LCD1_CONTROL? 09.35.46 # amiconn: did you see http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13788.0 09.35.55 # tierra: settings, debug, view I/O ports 09.35.55 # if i copy some1 elses wps and put in my own bmp it should work right 09.36.13 # thought so, but it's not listed 09.36.46 # I see plenty of GPIO*, GPO32, and DEV_EN# 09.36.48 # nothing else 09.37.10 # bEnN: why don't you stop the "some1"? 09.37.18 # * scorche wonders if amiconn meant to add it to the screen literally 09.37.27 # sorry, habit 09.38.41 # bEnN: that would work. 09.38.44 Quit webguest44 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 09.39.02 # oops 09.39.06 # rockbox version reported is: r15632-071115 btw 09.39.08 # thankms 09.40.01 # scorche: I should update more often, looks like quite a bit has changed... heh 09.40.11 # * scorche nods 09.40.42 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges 09.40.42 # dont know if this is the place to report it, but i mught have found a problem with the new nano release 09.41.00 # bEnN: shoot 09.41.46 # i was running loader2, with ipod linux and rockabox and when I ran rockbox the load bar would fill then nothing would happen 09.42.03 # it worked when I ran r14152 09.42.25 # bEnN: does it work with the latest rockbox bootloader? 09.42.32 # im testing that now 09.42.42 # it might have just been my setup but im not sure' 09.42.51 # I had rockbox.ipod on my root and in the older 09.43.02 # my loader.cfg pointed to the root one though 09.43.31 # tierra: well, i need to go to bed...if you are going to stay up, amiconn should be around...if you need to change the source, i can make you some builds tomorrow 09.43.40 # scorche: wow, the entire DB stuff is all new, and something I'd expect, and yeah, very awesome 09.43.44 # amiconn: tierra has a mini 1st gen for testing 09.44.00 # alright, night 09.44.01 # your previous build didnt even ahve the database? o_O 09.44.10 # yeah, must have been pretty old 09.44.39 # it was likely there...you just didnt know about it 09.44.50 # oh has scorche left? 09.45.16 # i *think* tagcache was in before the ipods 09.45.41 # o scorche, im about to test it with the rockbox bootloader 09.46.01 # bEnN: someone else can help you...i am moving to bed :) 09.46.07 # oh ok 09.46.10 # cya 09.48.29 Quit ddalton_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.48.59 # how do I update rockbox, I copied the files but it still has the old ver 09.49.55 # extract ALL of the rockbox.zip to the root of your player 09.50.27 # delete the rockbox file you have in the root of the device 09.50.32 # ...but i am not here.. 09.50.54 Join mrkiko [0] (n=mrkiko@88.34.98.169) 09.51.33 # ok... 09.52.14 # GodEater: that wps did work? did you play a song longer then 10 seconds? 09.53.41 # psycho_maniac: because I saw this wrong information from you here in the logs and in the forums and by the way - you gave 2 different answers. The backdrop doesn't need to be in a specific bit depth... Rockbox is able to scale it down to what the display can handle (dithered if necessary)... 09.54.38 # ok. thanks pixelma. i got the wrong info. 09.54.39 # I know there are places in the wiki that still suggest this 09.55.41 # is there an auto installer for rockbox nano? 09.56.13 # i think i was refering to the album art .bmp 09.56.26 # bEnN: there is an installer which is explained in the manual 09.57.12 # ok, just so people know, the new nano release doesnt work with loader 2 i dont think' 09.57.23 # its opk with rockbox boot loader though 09.58.11 # psycho_maniac: the same applies there. Just out of interest (and curiousity how it looks) I experimented with album art on my (greyscale) M5 - it works with the prepared colour (usually 24-bit) cover.bmps 09.58.22 # ok now i keep getting a data abort when i load a theme with album art. 09.58.29 # cyas 09.58.30 Quit bEnN ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.9/2007102514]") 09.58.48 # psycho_maniac: yes - it worked fine, other than me having no AA as I said 10.00.20 # if you have an album art theme with cover.bmp over the specified demsions of the wps it will crash. EVEN with bmp-resize 10.00.22 # patch 10.00.59 # AND i just realized how much i love 7738. i just ran the current build and it scrolls so slow lol 10.02.54 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 10.07.13 # May I have Wiki write permissions? 10.07.45 # of course 10.07.50 # what's your wikiname? 10.07.55 # JerryLange 10.08.07 # speaking of wiki, i really like this MarcGuay guy 10.08.24 # haha yes did you read his wiki profile? 10.08.55 Part pondlife ("Gone") 10.09.03 # JerryLange now has edit powers 10.09.25 # Thank you. 10.10.47 # speaking of the wiki... someone knows why saratoga deleted the "USB otg" part on the NoDo? 10.11.18 # he decided he's going to implement it ? ;) 10.11.23 Part sidlet ("Ex-Chat") 10.11.49 # GodEater: on all targets? ;) 10.12.00 # that would be challenging certainly! 10.12.19 # is there a way to change a file on the wiki? 10.12.22 # maybe he's making a little solder kit available for targets without the right hardware ? 10.13.17 # psycho_maniac: no - the accepted way to do that is to "hide" the original file, and upload another one 10.13.39 # that would need a new page UsbOtgMod or something ;) 10.14.55 # nobody asks about otg on the archos targets anyway, so we can safely delete it :-) 10.15.14 # it was worse a few years ago 10.15.29 # LinusN: you're right, that MarcGuay chap has done a lot of hard work on the wiki it seems :) 10.15.41 # i'm impressed and thankful 10.15.43 # indeed 10.15.51 # can we award him a gold star ? 10.15.57 # we should :-) 10.16.17 # the "unbrick" page for the sansa e200 needs some updating - if I make an account, will I be given write privledges? 10.16.48 # so i would name it something different? 10.16.59 # markun: (1) I don't read the forums anymore, so I won't know any thread unless someone points me to it. But (2) read this morning's logs 10.17.15 # psycho_maniac: yes, that's the idea 10.17.44 # amiconn: (1) that's why I point you to posts from time to time (2) ok 10.17.45 # TheCollector: yes, you'll get write privileges if you make an account 10.17.53 # great 10.18.02 # TheCollector: the only reason we make people ask is to stop spambots signing up and ruining the wiki 10.18.09 # ah 10.18.15 # so unless you're spambot - you'll get permission 10.18.19 # you're not a spambot are you ? 10.18.27 # * GodEater peers suspiciously at TheCollector 10.20.11 # quick, the Voight-Kampff test! 10.20.18 # well, I guess that all depends 10.20.36 # if spambots can install rockbox, then maybe 10.20.42 Join [potato] [0] (n=insanpeo@c220-237-156-194.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.20.43 Quit micols_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.21.18 # ok, I just got my account confirmed 10.22.51 # TheCollector: done 10.23.57 # thanks 10.27.35 # GodEater: can you test another theme? 10.27.57 # psycho_maniac: not right now - bit tied up sorry 10.29.29 # anybody else want to test a theme on the ipod video? 10.30.19 Quit [potato] () 10.32.13 # psycho_maniac: what's special about it? 10.33.14 # i fixed the album art but for some reason the text does not update and i want to know if its just my player. 10.34.06 # tierra ? 10.34.55 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3101.gwdg.de) 10.38.18 # ok, I presume that it isn't my fault that the recent build is broked, despite is being triggered by my commit 10.38.56 # considering that I only touched rockblox.c 10.39.56 # hcs: ? 10.40.42 # amiconn: I just did my first commit in a while and I'm noticing the broken M-Robe build 10.40.58 # just a bad build server? 10.41.39 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl) 10.44.24 # Do you read the dev ml? Build server owners need to update arm-elf-gcc with the multilibs patch 10.44.36 # Unfortunately many of them did not do so yet 10.45.45 # yeah, I had read that, but didn't recall all the details 10.46.02 Join Clam [0] (i=unyuuu@124-168-35-73.dyn.iinet.net.au) 10.52.27 Join inteliwasp [0] (n=inteliwa@cpe-76-189-94-34.neo.res.rr.com) 10.54.04 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.55.06 # i have a 4g ipod that is giving me errors when i try to boot it, it keeps giving me the sad ipod icon or some folder icon 10.59.01 # intelliwasp: Is this related with a rockbox install ? 11.00.34 # yes, it is a daily build from about a month ago 11.00.41 Join weezerle [0] (n=weezerle@dslb-088-072-010-002.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.01.12 # the last time i tried it, it got to rb but it said that the it could not boot 11.01.25 # Sad icon could mean a bad HD possibly, if its the folder icon , you might be able to recover it with disk mode. 11.01.46 # crap... 11.01.57 # yay blackglass and cobalt themes for the ipod video now work without patches. !! 11.02.01 # and i just got a new battery 11.02.32 # i wonder if one of the wires got loose... 11.08.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.09.39 # Hi all! I' seeing big rockbox changes! 11.10.26 Part Clam 11.13.00 Quit rasher ("need more rams") 11.13.33 # bitwise.c:177: internal compiler error: in cgraph_expand_function, at cgraphunit 11.14.31 # gcc says to submit a full bug-report... but :) I' m not alive again 11.19.40 Quit inteliwasp ("Leaving") 11.25.38 # what does "quietsave" mean? 11.27.55 # I'm trying to rework FS7738 to remove the settings entries for it. Where is the best place to store the values for wheel_accel_start and wheel_accel once they're no longer required in the menu system ? 11.28.55 # silly me - ignore that question 11.31.27 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.180.92) 11.38.27 # FS7738 has now had it's settings menu stuff removed. Is it good enough for a commit now ? 11.38.36 # please test it and let me know 11.40.18 # * GodEater crosses his fingers and hopes 11.44.06 Join Onj [0] (n=Miranda@home.andrelouis.com) 11.44.53 # It's still button_clickwheel only.# 11.45.04 # correct 11.45.53 # And I wonder why the 200 does quadratic acceleration, while the ipods use power of 4 11.46.05 # Hello. Could I ask a question about the latest SVN? I seem to have a problem building a voice for my target at the moment. 11.46.11 # no clue - you'd have to ask jhMikes / buschell 11.46.25 # Onj: what problem would that be ? 11.47.52 Quit psycho_maniac (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it") 11.47.52 # WEll two days ago I built voices for Iriver H120 which worked fine, but Ipod Video 30 and 80 did not. Then, it was suggested to me that I delete the entire rockbox directory and get SVN to redownload the entire thing, which allowed me to build for Ipod30 and 80, but now my own target doesn't work. How silly. However, I can use one of the voices I built two days ago and not yesterday, with today's build, and that works. My system menu is extremely sc 11.47.52 # like, copy, cut, move, a/b repeat, and so on. 11.49.32 # GodEater: I've only had a quick look, but maybe remove "DEFAULT_" from the names of the #defines, as they can't be changed any more. Also, I don't think they need to be passed as parameters to the button_apply_acceleration() function any more - that code can just use the #defines. It follows from this that the "factor" variable in that function can also become a #define 11.50.07 # linuxstb: hmm - ok 11.52.22 # linuxstb: do you mean move whatever #define I turn factor into out into the same files where the ACCEL_START #defines are currently ? 11.52.28 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.178.46) 11.53.02 # Also, when I did build the broken voices for Ipod targets, the system menu was missing completely. I've never seen anything like it. 11.55.44 # GodEater: IIUC, factor is based on DEFAULT_WHEEL_ACCEL_START, so you can #define WHEEL_ACCEL_FACTOR in button.c, based on the WHEEL_ACCEL_START which is set in the individual target config files. 11.56.39 # ok 12.08.16 Quit scorche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.10.27 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m147.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 12.12.03 # linuxstb: ok - all changed 12.12.58 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966B6B.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.16.30 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 12.18.18 # * GodEater pokes other ipod owners to get them to try it 12.19.50 # I wonder if the menu disappeared just for the voice, or on-screen as well? 12.22.28 # Onj, have you tried a daily build and it's matching voice file from the rockbox site ? 12.23.10 # Sure. but I never liked festival anyway, and I used to build them under windows. so I got Cygwin and I can build them just fine, no compile errors, none of that, but for some reason, something is wrong. 12.23.30 # so the one from our site works ok ? 12.23.32 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet15.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 12.23.33 # and doesn't miss menus out ? 12.24.30 # I haven't tried this morning, but yesterday everything seemed fine. It's now my H120 that doesn't work, but my friend's Ipod does, with the same parameters when I build a voice. Very strange. 12.24.57 # Maybe i will have to delete the rockbox dir yet again and run the SVN co thing. 12.24.58 # well if you try with today's, then we can rule out whether it's your build environment, or something we've broken 12.25.12 Quit Soap () 12.27.37 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.28.25 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 12.28.31 # Onj: It's now my H120 that doesn't work, but my friend's Ipod does, with the same parameters when I build a voice. <- What do you mean with the "same parameters"? How do you build them (in different build directories etc.)? 12.28.57 # No same build directories, my own personal lame choices though. 12.30.18 # ok the festival voice from the site works. I literally just got through building my own voice, so now I test that. 12.30.52 Quit barrywardell () 12.31.20 # still unsure if I understand you correctly... you are aware that voice files are target specific? (just making sure) 12.31.37 Join Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 12.32.19 # Wow. That really does not work. The first item in the system menu is blank. then move. show indacies. Interesting choices, but definitely incorrect. I always run svn update before I build, is there something else I should do as well? I feel quite stupid for this. 12.32.49 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.178.46) 12.33.12 # Yeah. I know all that. I run the ../tools/configure, choose my target, etc etc. Build the voice, run it, and it fails. I was the unofficial rockbox voice builder for windows until August fifth this year, when it switched to target-specific voices. 12.35.08 # Are you sure you're updating the build on your player correctly? Maybe that part isn't working, so you're using a new voice file with an old build. 12.35.24 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 12.35.34 # Absolutely. I just downloaded it. The build does say today's date in the system info, so I know that's correct also. 12.36.57 Join james_malone [0] (n=James@58.175.82.141) 12.38.48 # so are you building the voice files in the same directory and just "switch" by rerunning configure again? 12.39.27 # yeah, i cut and paste them to another folder after build. I've had this working before. I built for h10 20 gb and those voices work, the Ipod voices work with this current svn, but H120 no go. 12.39.47 # Two days ago it was reversed. 12.41.04 Quit james_malone (Client Quit) 12.43.26 # and do you also run "make clean" before configuring again? I once had a problem when I chose another voice in the tts options and a make clean soled it... if it's not that than I'm out of ideas unfortunately 12.43.40 # *solved 12.46.17 # Oh, no. I didn't know to do that. I will try that. Thanks very much. Building again now. 12.46.36 # Onj: I don't know about voice, but when building Rockbox itself, it should be done in separate build directories for different targets. IIUC, you can have a common "pool" folder somewhere that caches voice clips. 12.47.19 # Aah. Well. er, right then. I wasn't aware of this 12.47.55 Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.47.58 # that could probably make it easier :) 12.50.06 Quit mrkiko (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.50.20 # What do you know! It worked. So different build folders for different targets. I'm ea windows user, thus stupid when it comes to Linux. I figured that the configure would clean up before and after itself, but I guess not. 12.50.31 # * Onj looks stupid 12.51.22 # not really 12.52.18 Join mrkiko [0] (n=mrkiko@host169-98-static.34-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it) 12.54.49 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@bl8-161-199.dsl.telepac.pt) 12.55.45 # hello people! :-) 12.56.28 # Onj: All configure does is create the "Makefile" and "autoconf.h" files in the build directory - nothing else. 12.56.58 # barrywardell: hello! 12.57.05 # hi 12.57.19 # barrywardell: can you please tell me how is sansa USB developing? 12.57.37 # all I know is what Zagor has posted to the tracker 12.57.43 # I don't have to run a configure every time though now. I can make one directory for each target, configure it once and just run make voice when I need it. That saves a lot of time. Thanks. 12.58.46 # Casainho: the last two weeks nothing much has happened. I've been stuck on a hw/driver problem I don't know how to solve. some new ideas came up yesterday that I'll try as soon as I find the time. 12.59.20 # Zagor: sorry, I can't help - I am asking because I am just curious... 13.00.07 # Zagor: USB on Sansa is OTG? - what will It be able to do? - justo to connect to computer? 13.00.26 # my code is device mode only, i.e. connect to computer 13.00.46 # otg can potentially connect two sansas together and swap files 13.01.00 # but that is quite a bit more complex than what I'm doing 13.01.34 # otg is conceptually host and device capability on the same port, with auto-negotiating 13.01.55 # hmmm.. 13.02.03 # OTG does depends on hardware? 13.02.06 # yes 13.02.28 # so, Sansa have USB OTG(?) :-) :-) 13.02.57 Join Foofty [0] (i=d4dbbf87@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-96329457ab4b17e9) 13.02.58 Join webguest62 [0] (i=3b6412ee@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6624c8b1a5ae88c2) 13.03.01 # yes it does 13.03.06 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955BCF7.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.03.19 # okok - good luck with USB :-) ;-) 13.03.56 # Zagor, where can I find in TWiki info about PortalPlayer? - I wouldl ike to know waht DAC It have... 13.03.58 # i want to start making a new flavor of rockbox 13.04.08 # were do i start 13.04.19 # webguest62: you mean a new port? 13.04.43 # from drivers in source, there are a few drivers for DAC but I don't know what is for Sansa... - Is that information on TWiki? 13.04.43 # based of the original 13.04.58 # Zagor: is it at the stage where could add a charging mode for the sansa (ie. request 500mA, no extra endpoints)? 13.05.11 # barrywardell: yes we could 13.05.28 # webguest: you want to modify rockbox or port it to new hardware? 13.05.40 # no 13.05.55 # webguest62: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide 13.06.21 # just make a version that works a little better for a Ipod Nano 1st gen 13.07.04 # Zagor: nice. can your code easily deal with selecting between msc and charging mode? 13.07.39 # thanks 13.08.02 # barrywardell: sure, we could add a switch to inhibit sending endpoint descriptors 13.08.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.08.26 Quit mrkiko (Remote closed the connection) 13.08.55 # Is there any use for a 9+18x18 unicode font? 13.10.42 # webguest62: What kind of changes do you have in mind? 13.11.40 # Why is it that every song gets included into the Database 4 times? Any way to correct this? iPod Nano with Tuesday's daily build. 13.12.13 # I've tried removing the database files and recreating the database. I've also tried looking for any duplicates of the songs on the device, none 13.13.36 # ryanakca: It could be a side-effect of the problems some Nanos are experiencing. Do you have any other problems (e.g. freezing during playback)? Also, have you checked the filesystem for errors (I can't remember if I asked that last time you were here...) 13.13.43 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-76-6.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 13.13.50 # like, say I have ABC and DFG on the iPod, the list goes 'ABC, ABC, ABC, ABC, DFG, DFG, DFG, DFG'. When I removed all music from my iPod with amaroK and transfered one song to it. And, before, when I had a pile of songs on there, each and every song was listed 4 times in the database browser/list. 13.14.38 # linuxstb: no... fsck.vfat ? 13.15.06 # I guess so. Or you could simply try a reformat, just to be sure. 13.15.07 # (btw, dunno if this changes anything, but it's a first generation Nano) 13.15.25 # We assumed so - that's the only Nano Rockbox works on. 13.15.29 # linuxstb: ok... and then run upstairs to a windows comp and do a restore of the firmware? 13.15.32 # ah :) 13.15.49 # No, no need to restore the firmware. Just format /dev/sdX2 (the firmware is on /dev/sdX1) 13.16.03 # linuxstb: i just want to make a interface that my mom can understand 13.16.22 # ah 13.16.28 # webguest62: How would you change it? Remove options? 13.16.28 Quit Foofty ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.16.46 # * ryanakca will try fsck.vfat, and if that doesn't work, I'll reformat it tonight when I get back from school 13.17.37 # I'm assuming you're not trusting Amarok when it tells you it's deleted all files? i.e. you're looking inside the iPod_Control directory on your Nano, and making sure no files are still there? 13.17.54 # first of all i'd like to change the main menu list into a list of icons 13.18.25 # nice pretty pictures 13.19.19 # that's a pretty big change =/ 13.19.59 # linuxstb: yes... I ran... *checks* 'md5sum -b `du -a /media/IPOD/ | grep -i kpod | sed -e 's@.*/media@/media@g' | sort` >> music-md5sums' and looked threw the list for matching sums, and I also ran 'fdupes -r /media/IPOD'. 13.20.17 # and as for that, yes 13.20.21 # webguest62: you do know you can add icons to the top menu? 13.20.38 # when there aren't any files, there aren't any, and when there are some, there aren't any duplicates. 13.21.23 # yes but i want a easyer to see interface 13.21.26 Join ddalton_ [0] (n=Daniel@203-217-95-172.dyn.iinet.net.au) 13.23.11 # webguest62: easier than a list of icons? 13.23.30 # just make the font bigger 13.23.45 # webguest62: Out of curiousity, has your mom tried Rockbox? 13.23.52 # its not the look i want 13.23.59 # but she might not mind it? 13.24.18 # * ryanakca quite likes it actually :D 13.24.20 # she doesn't like it 13.24.21 # webguest62: you probably want to write down your ideas first, and make mockup screens. it will help you work faster than starting pulling at the code. 13.24.49 Quit desowin ("use linux") 13.24.52 # linuxstb: anyways, thanks, I'll format it tonight and start from scratch. Thanks ;) 13.26.09 # i found the new build to be a little unfinished 13.26.18 # it looks good but 13.26.24 # ryanakca: Is there a reason you use Amarok? You know you can just copy the files to your Nano's drive (with cp) and Rockbox will play them? 13.26.45 # some of the fuctionality is a bit glitchy 13.26.55 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-209-90.student.uu.se) 13.27.25 # webguest62: we most certainly welcome additional help 13.27.41 # don't assume nobody else wants your modifications 13.27.42 # Anything in particular? If you can't fix them, bug reports are also very welcome. 13.28.03 # kk 13.28.07 # thanks 13.29.06 # i'm just wondering if theres a fix for the USB connativity 13.29.18 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host185-210-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.30.06 # webguest62: no, because it requires a lot more than a "fix" 13.30.09 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) 13.30.35 # so the problem is known? 13.31.00 Join jpt9 [0] (n=chatzill@geodude-22.dynamic.rpi.edu) 13.31.35 # webguest62: ehum, wait a sec 13.31.59 # what exactly is the problem? 13.35.04 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 13.37.11 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 13.37.17 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.41.19 # when i link up my ipod nano to my computer it starts up and freazes 13.41.34 # doesn't happen with mine 13.42.07 # only if i have it turned off when i link it up 13.42.16 # not then either 13.42.32 # the old firmware didn't do it 13.42.58 # its only the past two updates 13.42.59 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C25B.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.43.13 # I don't get it on my ipod either - but I know others have reported it (both pixelma and amiconn I think). IIRC, they've said it happens with some builds, but not others, seemingly at random. 13.43.20 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 13.43.23 # gragh 13.43.25 # we need proper usb :/ 13.43.26 Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.43.36 # * LinusN looks at Zagor 13.43.42 Quit barrywardell () 13.44.00 # USE 2.0?? 13.44.16 # 2.0 what? 13.44.21 # sometime i've only got 1.1 13.44.24 # webguest62: no, our own usb driver 13.44.34 # oh 13.44.37 # oz 13.44.37 Quit ddalton_ ("I was using BOFHNet IRC version 1.2 by fmillion - get your copy today from http://www.the-bofh.com/bofhnet/irc !") 13.44.43 # soz 13.46.22 # webguest62: Which Rockbox build are you currently using? Maybe preglow could test the same build on his ipod, to see if he also gets the usb freeze? 13.48.44 # r15634 13.50.08 # preglow: I'm was trying to build with the last patch applied and building the encoder fails because it can't find inttypes.h (I don't know about other files yet). SVN builds fine. 13.51.51 # linuxstb: I get this freeze rather often on all PP502x targets, but the probability depends on the actual target 13.52.11 # On mini g2 it happens *very* often, on video not that often 13.52.26 # Also not often on H10 13.55.23 Quit jpt9 (Read error: 110 (C