--- Log for 03.02.108 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 18 hours ago 00.00.05 # I see a badger 00.00.12 # It looks angry 00.00.14 # * BigBambi hides 00.00.27 # * scorche gets the tranq gun normally used for rasher out 00.00.44 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 00.00.48 # * BigBambi hides behind scorche 00.01.11 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-160-247.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.01.46 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 00.02.12 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.02.48 Quit hannesd ("Client suicide") 00.03.27 Join nicktastic [0] (n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic) 00.03.46 Join broom [0] (n=4fd3c2e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e597280e2720a046) 00.03.57 Part thgz 00.04.25 # Has the recent commit by jhMikeS resolved the issue with disk spinning? 00.04.30 # Wow... all that... because the case game was out of sync :o -sigh- 00.04.49 # *Reapplies all 17 patches* 00.04.58 # I can't check since I don't own a DAP with two processors/cores. 00.05.36 # jhMikeS: ah, you here! Was it the ultimate solution? Or just a try? 00.06.30 Quit broom (Client Quit) 00.06.51 # Bagder: build server hanging? 00.06.57 # s/server/system/ 00.07.15 # Ah, stupid me. Last two commits were in rbutil.. 00.07.16 Join Christo1 [0] (n=christop@ip68-3-220-253.ph.ph.cox.net) 00.07.22 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 00.07.26 # hehe 00.07.36 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 00.09.49 Join conando [0] (n=john@dslb-084-060-135-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.14.26 Join webguest11 [0] (n=4b373357@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-56031b685ebb00ef) 00.15.31 Quit webguest11 (Client Quit) 00.15.38 Join webguest12 [0] (n=4b373357@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8d42b141474ba9b1) 00.17.47 Quit fyre^OS (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.20.31 # Anyone here could possibly resync the dict2 plugin? 00.22.00 # Otherwise, thanks I've got it compiled and it's running fine! ciao... 00.22.16 Quit IzzehO ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.22.48 Quit Christop (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.23.39 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096649533.dsl.bell.ca) 00.27.23 Quit seablue ("life, death, life, death") 00.36.48 Quit webguest12 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.40.28 # buschel (logs?) sure. I can make a bench for you. Sorry I haven't yet. 00.42.55 # Bagder: no biggie with the latest request - he only sort of wanted it 00.43.18 # soap: do you know what the story is with the battery life decrease in SVN? 00.43.23 # i saw a mention of it but thats it 00.43.51 # Disk thrashing I've heard - I've been out of the loop the last few days - real busy with work work, 00.44.02 # ah ok 00.47.58 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 00.48.46 Quit Teldane90|wech ("ich hab lieber 3tage keinen strom, als 1tag kein internet...") 00.51.56 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.04.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.18.08 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.30.21 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 01.30.38 Join Masterbot [0] (n=chatzill@d90-128-50-253.cust.tele2.de) 01.31.29 Quit Masterbot (Client Quit) 01.31.39 Quit obo ("bye") 01.34.15 # hey bagder im back 01.35.14 Quit ender` (" Engineers think that equations approximate the real world. Scientists think that the real world approximates equations. Mat") 01.35.47 # hey what knowledge would i need to know to port rockbox to the samsung yp-p2 with a team 01.36.53 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort is a good guide for things you will (probably) have to know 01.38.00 Quit Axio_ () 01.38.32 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 01.39.35 Quit conando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.41.46 # thank you 01.41.59 # does anyone here have a samsung yp-p2? 01.48.43 # not me 01.52.12 # countrymonkey: you dont have to tell us everything you dont have... 01.58.14 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 02.02.05 Quit karashata (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D") 02.05.16 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 02.07.48 # Moos: I have an idea. You mentioned a few weeks or months back that you did a french rework. You mentioned it to me when I was doing the norsk voice patch. What fs# is it? I'm thinking why we don't turn that into beljim french and use yours as france french. 02.13.34 # yea i only wanted to know who DID have it lol 02.13.55 # i am wondering this because i am trying to put together a team to port rockbox for it 02.14.34 # have you tried to find a samsung DAP forum? 02.14.47 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 02.15.13 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 02.17.10 Quit pocketninja ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 02.18.15 Quit Horscht (Client Quit) 02.18.50 Join blueyes214 [0] (n=blu3yes2@ool-4b7fc0aa.static.optonline.net) 02.20.12 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.23.09 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 02.27.49 Quit MethoS_mobile (Remote closed the connection) 02.30.10 Part blueyes214 02.32.47 Join blueyes214 [0] (n=blu3yes2@ool-4b7fc0aa.static.optonline.net) 02.34.28 Quit PaulJam (".") 02.35.06 Nick blueyes214 is now known as blueyes (n=blu3yes2@ool-4b7fc0aa.static.optonline.net) 02.43.24 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 02.57.33 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007120410]") 03.04.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.06.02 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 03.09.29 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.10.44 Quit qweru ("moo") 03.16.50 Part blueyes 03.18.51 Quit rocko (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.33.30 Join snipexv [0] (n=mtl@130-127-46-58.mccabe.resnet.clemson.edu) 03.35.32 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 03.35.35 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-192-093.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.35.45 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-192-093.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.41.01 Join Robbie [0] (n=chatzill@pool-71-254-147-149.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) 03.43.46 Quit Robbie (Client Quit) 03.49.10 Quit sygw (Connection timed out) 03.57.50 Quit joshn_ (Remote closed the connection) 04.05.04 Join Falco98 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-066-056-186-106.sc.res.rr.com) 04.06.27 Join newbyx86 [0] (n=newby@ip68-7-12-123.sd.sd.cox.net) 04.06.33 Quit newbyx86 (Remote closed the connection) 04.06.56 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.12.18 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 04.21.12 Join webguest75 [0] (n=4516e3d9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-af44dbb1ca99ae24) 04.22.40 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 04.31.46 Quit webguest75 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.31.47 Join pissedoff [0] (n=4516e3d9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aadbc8c1126506f7) 04.32.37 Quit BitTorment ("SEGFAULT: shit!") 04.38.44 Join webguest13 [0] (n=c99e99fe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1795b1c345062cc4) 04.40.35 # Hello 04.42.55 # I'm having troubles with rockbox on my ipod photo 30g, Can anybody help? 04.55.10 Quit webguest13 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.01.46 Quit Falco98 ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 05.02.27 Join Llorea1 [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-255-106-249.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 05.03.00 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.03.05 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF53C2.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.03.07 Quit Llorea1 (Client Quit) 05.03.43 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.04.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.05.18 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b029035@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4b72ed1cb41a8278) 05.05.40 # Just popped in to help any rbers who ask questions. 05.07.15 # countrymonkey: you don't have to announce your intentions to the world. It's just noise, really. 05.09.02 # I have found that if I am silent, someone inevitably asks "Do you have a question?". 05.09.34 # that is only after you say "hi" or something like that 05.11.32 # Speaking of questions, How large is the font cache? I'm looking for a chinese-trad font that stays under the limit. Unifont is just too big. 05.12.08 # without requiring xtra disk spinups which wastes already precious battery power 05.12.27 # so was that a "Yes, i do have a question"? ;) 05.12.46 # one just popped in my head. 05.13.02 # countrymonkey: how much smaller than unicode can you go? I'd say a larger font cache would be the smarter way out 05.13.49 # ,I'm looking for chinese-trad only. No arabic, russian, hebrew, and basicly other charsets I don't need. I just need a max limit for things I find on the internet. 05.14.55 # Those won't be in the cache unless you use them 05.15.07 # That's rather the point of using a cache 05.16.39 # Well, I want a chinese-trad font smaller than the cache so the whole font fits. Currently, it reads the glyffs it needs for the settings it is showing at that particular point in time. Then when it needs new glyffs the disk goes spinning back up again. How about a system in which the whole font fits? 05.16.52 # which is why I'm asking 05.17.10 # countrymonkey: how much smaller than unicode can you go? I'd say a larger font cache would be the smarter way out 05.19.01 # In that case, where in the code is the place where the font buffir is defined? I will patch a build and build it myself. 05.19.28 # No idea. I suggest employing grep 05.22.18 # The short description doesn't explain it clear enough for me to be able to understand. If I understood correctly, I need to know what the define is called and I don't. 05.23.19 # Neither do I. Make educated guesses and grep for that ("FONTCACHE" "FONT_CACHE", etc) 05.23.46 # Or wait for someone who knows, or does the work for you 05.24.05 # I thought you would know. 05.26.41 Join raky__ [0] (n=raky@p57A6207A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 05.28.54 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 05.29.46 # I'll wait. 05.43.37 Quit raky_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.44.20 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@ip68-229-87-41.ri.ri.cox.net) 06.00.03 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 06.00.31 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.05.53 # is there any information about rockbox on the very latest ipod releases? 06.06.09 # what sort? 06.07.18 # well, undefined since it is regarding a future purchase 06.07.45 # eh?...i am asking what sort of information are you looking for 06.07.52 # oh heh, sorry 06.08.19 # I thought you meant what sort of ipod... just if there should be any expected difference in support 06.08.44 # I have no idea how much the hardware has changed between these "ipod classic" versions or whatever they're called or if all changes are just superficial. 06.08.50 # i still am not sure what you are asking...the newer ipods are completely unsupported...rockbox doesnt run 06.09.00 # hardware has changed drastically 06.09.10 # and hardware support is far from the only issue 06.09.35 # how's that? 06.10.05 Join Shaid [0] (i=shaid@210-84-56-94.dyn.iinet.net.au) 06.10.11 # http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2007/09/18/rockbox-on-the-ipod-classic/ 06.10.16 # thanks 06.10.44 # haha, the first sentence is great... "Let me be perfectly clear on this:" 06.12.50 # unfortunately, the entire firmware image is encrypted...this makes things a little tough to reverse engineer 06.12.58 Quit pissedoff ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.13.04 Join major_works [0] (n=chatzill@ool-45745dcc.dyn.optonline.net) 06.13.19 # as well, without the knowledge of how it is encrypted, we cant run our own code 06.14.39 Join fanblade [0] (n=outatsea@c-68-41-22-114.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 06.15.10 # right 06.15.44 # That's really lame, when you think about it, how much do they lose because of things like rockbox? 06.16.43 # control 06.17.19 # im sure sandisk has gotten a bunch of RMAs from people that thought their players were bricked as well 06.17.52 # heh... I guess there's that 06.20.54 Quit aneka (Client Quit) 06.30.46 Quit major_works ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 06.36.39 Part snipexv ("Leaving.") 07.02.54 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.03.26 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B0CA63.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.04.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.12.01 Quit baard (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.20.07 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 07.23.18 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-255-106-249.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 07.35.04 Join ackbahr [0] (n=jean@58-159.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 07.38.38 Quit ackbahr (Remote closed the connection) 07.43.18 # it's mostly about control, since to them it equates to profit, and they're only motivation is just that... you can put the rest of the equation together ;). 07.44.06 Quit perrikwp ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 3.0b3pre/2008012904]") 07.53.04 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 08.02.53 Part toffe82_ 08.05.11 Join ackbahr [0] (n=jean@58-159.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 08.07.13 Quit fanblade ("Leaving") 08.18.35 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B0DE84.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.26.03 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 08.27.09 Join spr0k3t__ [0] (n=spr0k3t@CPE-69-76-171-220.kc.res.rr.com) 08.32.21 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 08.36.19 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.41.38 Quit spr0k3t_ (Connection timed out) 08.47.05 Quit midgey () 09.04.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.09.55 Quit ackbahr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.12.19 Join crazy_bus [0] (n=philip@CPE-144-137-69-19.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 09.16.46 # I saw a custom build on a forum and it had a great number of patches applied to it. Some of those patches dated back nearly 2 years and I was wondering how long patches usual sit in the tracker before being applied to svn. Or if they haven't being applied because they aren't well written? 09.21.00 # there is no set time after which, they go into svn...they go into svn when they are suitable and ready 09.21.32 # Patches require a developer with SVN access to take responsibility for them, review them, and commit - so if no developer is interested in the feature, the patch will rot... 09.22.59 # Some patches will never be applied, e.g. if the feature is not wanted in svn 09.23.18 # hey linuxstb_, I tihnk we really need an easy way to get the colour settings from the current viewport into a new vp.. any ideas how best to do it? 09.23.59 # amiconn: Shouldn't those be rejected though? (if someone gets round to rejecting it...) 09.24.04 # Some are even meant to be applied by individuals only, e.g. patches supporting special hardware mods, or workarounds for partially broken devices 09.25.03 # linuxstb: The unwanted features should be, yes. 09.25.51 # linuxstb_: someone mentioned to me the other day that they "stole libdemac for use in audacious" ;) 09.26.12 # scorche: Yes, I heard about that. 09.26.41 # apparently it is spreading 09.29.42 # Now if the range decoder could be made more efficient... hint hint ;) 09.29.54 # JdGordon: Copying the parent viewport, then changing the other fields isn't good enough? 09.30.24 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-209-105.student.uu.se) 09.31.13 # passing around a parent isnt always nice 09.31.21 # might have to do it though 09.31.28 # * JdGordon fiddling with the quickscreens atm 09.41.24 # I had a 1 hour mp3 file and it had trouble resuming on my sansa e200. Sometimes it would resume from the book mark. Sometimes it wouldn't play at all and sometimes just go back to the beginning. But it you then tried the same bookmark a few times it would eventually work. Is this a normal occurace? 09.41.48 # also thanks scorche and linuxstb for the patch answers 09.43.26 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-109787.home.otenet.gr) 09.46.41 # amiconn: BTW, I read your comments about ipod_fw/ipodpatcher in the logs from a couple of days ago. Just to clarify, ipodpatcher was written from scratch (not using ipod_fw) as a replacement for it. I did initially try to add 2048 byte sector support to ipod_fw, but gave up and wrote ipodpatcher instead. 09.47.04 Quit tvelocity (Client Quit) 09.47.41 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 09.50.42 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 09.51.43 # OK, so one part of my statement was incorrect. However, the point that ipod_fw is outdated and has bugs which won't be fixed still holds... 09.52.03 # Sure ;) 09.53.20 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 09.53.36 # Somehow I think that you wrote ipodpatcher before 2048-byte sector account became necessary though?? 10.01.48 # I don't think so - checking the SVN logs, the first versions of ipodpatcher (the win32-only version that was used to "dd" images for manipulation by ipod_fw) had support for 2048 byte sectors, which was before I started adding the ipod_fw functionality (in Dec 2006). IIRC, the G5.5 was released in Sept 2006. 10.03.08 # * linuxstb_ becomes linuxstb 10.03.13 Quit linuxstb_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 10.04.51 Join Axio [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net) 10.10.11 Quit axionix_ (Remote closed the connection) 10.10.23 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 10.16.27 Join conando [0] (n=john@dslb-084-060-151-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.17.28 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 10.17.35 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.22.57 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 10.33.10 Join MattAndrew [0] (n=mzandrew@cpe-67-49-176-228.hawaii.res.rr.com) 10.33.20 Join bluebrot1er [0] (n=dom@16.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com) 10.33.46 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 10.33.51 Nick bluebrot1er is now known as bluebrother (n=dom@16.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com) 10.35.11 Quit UncleRemus ("leaving") 10.37.47 Join mokkurkalve [0] (n=eivind@062016137128.customer.alfanett.no) 10.43.13 Join sygw [0] (n=chatzill@59.92.160.217) 10.43.39 Quit Shaid ("server hop") 10.44.06 Join Shaid [0] (i=shaid@210-84-56-94.dyn.iinet.net.au) 10.44.22 Quit Horscht ("http://www.geisterfahrer.org") 10.44.26 Quit crazy_bus (Remote closed the connection) 10.44.59 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.45.40 Part sygw 10.46.31 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser@layl001.digis.net) 10.50.16 Join ddalton [0] (n=ddalton@124-168-63-82.dyn.iinet.net.au) 10.50.41 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F4F5.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.52.54 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 10.58.43 Quit ol_schoola () 10.59.23 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 11.01.34 Quit gerald_ (Remote closed the connection) 11.03.11 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.03.20 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.04.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.11.02 Quit MattAndrew (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.18.15 Join pixelma [0] (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.31.36 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet") 11.46.28 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 11.52.16 Quit ddalton ("leaving") 12.04.14 Quit Buschel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.07.09 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 12.08.33 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet29.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 12.09.27 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 12.11.56 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 12.14.54 Join Buschel_ [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F4F5.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.21.09 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 12.22.07 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 12.25.01 Join webguest53 [0] (n=cf5143be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f31372eb97f24095) 12.26.01 Quit webguest53 (Client Quit) 12.26.15 Join KLKL [0] (n=chatzill@121.143.92.53) 12.32.04 # Something about a hdd regression in svn revision 16104 according to FS #8379 comments - that coincides with jhMikeS's changes to ata.c - is there a forum post / any more info? 12.36.08 # It's not a mixup then, so that they're referring to the issues in 16105 (which seem to be fixed now)? Haven't used 16104+ much on a HDD target though... 12.38.25 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 12.39.24 # Could be. The flyspray says 16104+ has the problem. Where is it fixed? 12.40.01 # Buschel_ - I'm trying a 5g 60GB build using 16103 plus pcf-test-03 , will report when I have results 12.47.59 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 12.55.10 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 13.02.49 # The problem introduced in 16105 was likely fixed by 16197. 13.04.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.10.21 # but not the weird resume problem (at least it's still there on my c200) 13.11.12 # was able to test on an H10 just now and it didn't show up 13.11.28 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3107.gwdg.de) 13.12.25 # "_may_" help 5.5g buffering problems - hmm. well, that would be worth testing. what's the "weird resume problem" ? 13.14.58 # resume doesn't resume from a mid track position for me, it resumes from the start of the next track most of the times or start of the current track 13.17.51 # hm, was that problem introduced in 16105? 13.17.57 # seems unrelated 13.19.02 # Didn't Nico_P have a patch to fix that (or something like it) ? 13.19.07 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964322.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.23.41 # well, in my tests last week, this problem didn't occur with a few revisions I tried (starting with r16018) and I saw it first in 16105, went back to 16104 and it was ok again... 13.23.50 # odd 13.23.56 Quit Buschel_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.25.58 Join devurandom [0] (n=devurand@pardot.kynes.de) 13.26.31 Join seablue [0] (n=s@0x535c13cc.banxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 13.33.21 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F4F5.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.35.42 Join BitTorment [0] (n=martin@87-194-94-92.bethere.co.uk) 13.36.19 # stripwax: you should better do a battery bench with svn >= 16197 to check whether the worsened battery runtime was fixed with jhMikeS' change. I did a bench with my 30GB -- no positive effect, but it also didn't seem to suffer from runtime degradation 13.46.49 # Resume works for me. 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Or am I just blind...? 17.09.06 # devurandom: Hm? 17.09.13 # hi all - is 'noise' a known issue with RockBox? Particularly on the iRiver H140? 17.09.37 # There's always a fair bit of static and even more when scrolling 17.09.37 # devurandom: Perhaps firmware/export and firmware/include is what you're looking for? 17.09.46 # rasher: Browsing the sources right now and my usual technique of reading headers+docs first doesn't seem to work, since there are nmo headers... 17.09.54 # Ah, thereok. 17.10.06 # * devurandom needs to improve his typing... 17.10.13 # devurandom: and then there are .h files in apps/ 17.10.21 # Depending on what you're looking at 17.10.29 # ComradeHaz: are you using the remote? 17.10.35 # sure 17.10.38 # Where should I start looking at, when I want to find out "how this works"? 17.10.55 # ComradeHaz: try turning on "reduce ticking" under the remote display settings 17.10.58 # should I try without? 17.10.59 # I.e. how you startup at all, is what I am currently interested in... Does a Kernel have main()? 17.11.07 # think I have 17.11.09 # lemme check 17.11.27 # ComradeHaz: the h1x0 has a hardware problem related to the remote which emits some noise, particularly on display updates 17.11.34 # devurandom: There's a wiki page about the kernel 17.11.53 # devurandom: It's not something I know much, if anything about 17.12.24 # RockBox is not at all affiliated with Linux, right? 17.12.29 # devurandom: Correct 17.12.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxKernel 17.13.17 # I don't know where to point you regarding the boot procedure 17.13.24 # Do you share code with ipodlinux? 17.13.32 # rasher: Well, I'll find out. Thanks! 17.14.18 # There's a fair bit of sharing with ipl, they had already done a lot of the work when Rockbox started porting to portalplayer targets 17.14.37 # But that's pretty much purely drivers 17.15.01 # Do you know whether ipl is dead? Seems pretty silent over there... 17.15.35 # I probably don't know more than you, ie. not a lot of visible activity 17.19.23 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@92.226.151.83) 17.19.32 Quit bernz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.22.21 # I've never done any embedded programming before. Is there any MUST read? Or is it enough to poke rockbox' code? 17.23.21 # devurandom: nothing really special. just straight c, no malloc, and dont waste resources.. 17.23.39 # ok. 17.24.20 # Since I was coding quite some Qt lately, I looked into Qtopia. But I guess a size of 15MB is too much for my iPod. ;) 17.24.28 # a good way to start rockbox hacking. is to try a little plugin.. 17.24.49 # devurandom: no qt on rockbox, that would be waste of resources.. :-) 17.25.08 # What I'd be interested in: Is the UI considered alpha? 17.25.15 # but if you like Qt hacking, you are welcom to help out with rbutil (rockbox installer) which is in Qt 17.25.15 # I find it rather inconsistent... 17.25.26 # Yes, already used that. 17.25.51 # And would have an issue to fix... (/me adds it to his todo-list) 17.26.04 # devurandom: the UI of rockbox is very customiceable, try some different themes.. 17.26.16 # devurandom, well, there are always improvements that could be made. a common complaint is how the menus are set up and ordered, but so far there hasn't been a good suggestion on how to fix it, apparently 17.26.21 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b00bd68@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3e2ef4b4f972ef64) 17.26.43 # Domonoky: The themes change the input schemes too? 17.26.59 # no, only display.. keymaps are fixed.. 17.27.01 Quit rocko (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.27.01 # Since that is what I have the issue with. 17.27.22 # It seems as if every submenu has its own interpretation of the keys... 17.27.39 # ? 17.27.45 # s/seems/feels/ 17.28.03 # the keymaps are not "fixed" by any means. if you come up with something that improves the mapping or makes it more consistent, that would be great 17.28.03 # Moos: I was thinking why don't we turn the old french file (before your rework) into a beljim french file and make yours french france? 17.28.21 # countrymonkey, if moos reads the logs, you don't need to repeat it every day. 17.28.40 # with "fixed" i meant not user customiceable.. :-) 17.28.56 # pixelma: Sometimes "menu" means cancel, sometimes it means "mainmenu". Sometimes "right" means "back" and sometimes something else... Such stuff. 17.29.15 # devurandom: which device do you have ? 17.29.28 # iPod Nano 17.30.14 # Aren't the buttons bound to actions, which are then handled by each menu? 17.30.21 # * Domonoky thinks ipods dont have enough buttons, i like my h120 more :-) 17.30.25 # At least that would be my immediate idea how to do it... 17.30.42 # Domonoky: Yes, it is rather limited. Playing Doom was a pain. ;) 17.31.19 # Though Apple's firmware handles it greatly. 17.31.19 # devurandom: can you give an example? The usual submenus (coming from the main menu) have all the same mapping, except the debug menu IIRC but playlist viewer and the quick screen can have different buttons 17.31.48 # "quick screen"? 17.32.01 # The while-playing-screen? 17.32.07 # no 17.33.34 # the screen you get pressing long on play from the wps 17.33.51 # Not only the wps 17.34.10 # the one that you can reach by "long menu" (according to the manual) on the Nano from the WPS 17.34.21 # "press long on play"? Aint that the "shutdown" function? 17.34.34 # long menu in the wps 17.34.46 # But I think it could be the playlist and the configuration screens I mean. 17.35.18 # rasher: I believe some targets can only call it from the WPS (and one doesn't have it at all) but I don't use it much... 17.35.32 # Don't have it at hand atm, otherwise I'd try. It is currently loading... 17.35.43 # * Domonoky just tested long menu works also in files on ipods.. :-) 17.35.51 # pixelma: ah, I'll shut my mouth then 17.36.24 # Well, I'll have a look at the docs, then at the code and then I'll see. (hopefully) 17.39.05 # rasher: e.g. I can't find a way to get to the quick screen from the browsers on my c200 8only from the WPS) - I know that the keymap is not very enhanced there but it is surprisingly hard to find something better there even though it has quite a lot of buttons :\ 17.39.44 # on my h300 i noticed some minor inconsitencies too, for example in the id3 info screen PLAY does noting (you have to press A-B or STOP to return to WPS), inside the "Browse XXX" entrys in the menu PLAY brings you up one level (instead of WPS) and in the FM-radio screen long REC does nothing. 17.40.18 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 17.40.21 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-162-075.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.40.31 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-162-075.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.42.02 # pixelma: apparently you can't bring it up from the menu on e200 either.. even though long-menu does nothing :| 17.42.47 # devurandom: if you can point at something specific please do :) 17.45.53 Join Weiss [0] (i=taw27@pip.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk) 17.46.32 # Will do. 17.46.54 # Thanks! 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My c250 just hangs when I try one, need to hard power off (I'm actually investigating some other weirdnesses though) 19.43.15 # parafin, I removed yours "without warning" for a couple of reasons - but we can discuss them. 19.44.00 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.44.02 # pixelma: yes I had a few hangs, but not enough to pin down a reason. Does it always happen for you? 19.44.08 # Buschel, you here? 19.44.11 # yes 19.44.24 # re-ran the bench 19.44.26 # 5 month old build. 20 patched - 10 of them long in SVN in one form or another. 19.44.26 # 17h 19.44.37 # s/patched/patches. 19.44.44 # wow 19.44.53 # yes, my thoughts exactly! 19.45.03 # roolku: no, some seem to play (the first 2 didn't and made the player freeze) 19.45.16 # horscht: there may be some more runtime... just running the next tests here 19.45.53 # even more runtime? 19.46.06 # you know, 17h is pretty damn close to stock runtime 19.46.29 # yep, there may be some adjustments in PCF registers possible 19.46.49 # soap, it's fine, it was old 19.47.29 # pixelma: for me the ones that hung previously play the next time I try - I think it is something to do with the whole buffering wierdness that causes all the resume problemes etc 19.47.51 # i'll pastebin the bench for you, Buschel if you need it. Allthough I doubt you do at this point 19.48.08 Join Falco98 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-066-056-186-106.sc.res.rr.com) 19.48.12 # horscht: just post it 19.48.15 # pixelma: if playback is back to normal and mods still won't play reliably I will look into it. :) 19.48.22 # Horscht: is that with a 5G 60/80GB? 19.48.29 # 80 19.48.36 # ah, nice 19.48.37 # roolku: ah no... I got one folder in which all seem to play correctly and 2 others folders where I can select every file and it hangs. Since I see the same thing with the other problem I'm investigating (resume and skip 3rd track) - I mean one folder is affected and the other isn't I wonder if it is related... 19.50.05 # bug #5230 is very annoying and is very old, has anyone investigated it? 19.51.15 # ...I still couldn't find what attribute those broken have in common and what makes them different to working ones though... :\ 19.51.39 # Buschel, http://www.pastebin.ca/890407 I am afk now, thanks again for your effort! 19.52.38 # roolku: so I agree on the buffering weirdness point :) 19.54.19 Quit tedrock (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.54.25 # horscht: this was also with cabbie WPS and normal volume (~-20dB)? 19.56.06 # Horscht: because also the 90%-10% time increased a lot 19.57.21 # gotta go, bbl 19.57.25 Part pixelma 19.59.32 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.226.58.34) 20.00.16 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 20.02.12 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 20.02.37 # yes, Buschel 20.02.54 # can't tell you the exact volume level though 20.03.06 # hmm, same playlist? 20.03.57 # not the same songs, no. but same quaility/bitrate 20.04.48 # ahh, that may be the reason. your last bench show +5% for 90-10% runtime. this may be connected to different files... 20.05.14 # wow, and this was _with_ WPS 20.06.00 # plus, the most noticable thing was that the benchmark didn't stop at 9% battery left 20.06.17 # if anybody feels like losing a few brain cells: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/stonedan/source.txt (also read http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/t/7593.aspx for explanation) 20.06.32 # ender`: wrong channel 20.06.45 # oops 20.06.51 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-109787.home.otenet.gr) 20.06.56 # yes, this might have given you some extra 30-40 minutes in the bench -- but there shouldn't a be much difference when watching it go off 20.07.07 # (then again, there are coders in here, too :) 20.08.43 # Horscht, can you build for your own? 20.10.17 # nope, haven't yet looked into it 20.10.32 # mainly because there are daily builds anyways (allthough, unpatched) 20.10.50 Join spr0k3t_ [0] (n=spr0k3t@CPE-69-76-171-220.kc.res.rr.com) 20.10.55 # ok 20.11.15 # anyways, I really got to go now, friends are waiting in front of the cinema. i'll catch you sometime later 20.11.24 # have fun! 20.11.29 # thank you 20.11.29 Quit spr0k3t_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.12.31 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.163) 20.14.30 Join spr0k3t_ [0] (n=spr0k3t@CPE-69-76-171-220.kc.res.rr.com) 20.18.03 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.21.10 Nick Arathis2 is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A7A7E.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.23.26 # Domonoky: around? 20.23.36 # jup 20.23.46 # hi 20.23.53 # bluebrother: thank you for fixing my bugs :-) 20.24.08 # you're welcome ;-) 20.24.19 # well, I noticed you're working on a cli version 20.24.42 # how much work is left on refacturing? IMO we should create a bugfix release once that's done 20.24.43 # yes.. its still in early dev, i am missing time for it.. 20.25.02 # and then try to bump to 1.1 or so for the cli version 20.25.09 # there is no code in svn yet, is it? 20.25.31 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 20.25.41 # no, because its still only configuration, no install in the cli version till now.. 20.25.59 # i will commit it, when i have the first install option with cli running :-) 20.26.20 # ok. I'm currently trying to catch up with the changes of the last month. 20.26.26 Quit tvelocity ("?????????") 20.26.42 Join MethoS_mobile [0] (n=clemens@pD955C942.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.26.55 Quit MethoS_mobile (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.27.09 Join MethoS_mobile [0] (n=clemens@pD955C942.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.27.44 # I'm still waiting for DSL but at least I don't have a time-accounted access anymore. 20.27.45 Join snipexv [0] (n=mtl@130-127-46-58.mccabe.resnet.clemson.edu) 20.28.10 # good, so more coding from you :-) 20.28.20 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-109787.home.otenet.gr) 20.28.39 # hopefully. There's still a lot in my pipe required by my move. 20.28.59 # but I should be more active now ;-) 20.29.14 # nice, have fun :-) 20.31.29 # ah, btw: you're now storing the displayed value for tts / encoder name in the config file. Is this intened? 20.31.37 Quit csc` (Success) 20.32.21 # really ?, i have to check.. 20.32.38 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 20.32.47 # yep. 20.33.00 # so I assume this wasn't intended ;-) 20.33.07 # no.. 20.36.07 # after checking the code, it seams intended.. :-) 20.36.25 # hmm, we should include a readme file in the zip with all known issues listed. 20.36.36 # otherwise you need to add a function to convert the long name into the shortnme :-) 20.38.03 # hmm. I don't like using the displayed name (as I hope we can make that translateable eventually) 20.38.39 # feel free to change it :-) 20.38.47 # well, so it's another thing I can look into the next days :) 20.39.14 # about your fix for th seqfault with non configured enc or tts. a default tts/enc would be better.. 20.39.27 # yep. 20.39.30 # otherwise we need this error handling in a few more places.. 20.40.00 # I just experienced it as my config file was outdated 20.40.23 # the whole tts enc class thing isnt really nice, but i dont know a better way at moment.. 20.40.42 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 20.40.45 # I'm a bit out of cpp programming ... only c at work 20.41.15 # * Domonoky is coding c++ at work, but mor embedded, driver things.. :-) 20.41.16 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.41.58 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 20.43.33 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 20.46.11 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.51.22 Quit hannesd ("Client suicide") 20.52.14 Quit spr0k3t_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.52.14 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser@layl001.digis.net) 20.52.33 Join jerl92 [0] (n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-34-119.mqdsl.megaquebec.net) 20.53.20 Part jerl92 20.55.10 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.55.10 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.00.10 # can the swcodec players still use mp3 voice / talk files? 21.00.17 # no 21.00.43 # so the encoder selection could be hardwired to your device selection.. 21.01.00 # just thought about that. 21.04.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.04.33 Join spr0k3t [0] (n=spr0k3t@CPE-69-76-171-220.kc.res.rr.com) 21.05.13 # * bluebrother should finish the "first steps" window he thought about a while back 21.07.02 Join Christop [0] (n=christop@ip68-3-220-253.ph.ph.cox.net) 21.08.11 Quit Falco98 ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 21.10.12 Join Falco98 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-066-056-186-106.sc.res.rr.com) 21.11.38 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.12.12 Quit bluebrother ("bye ...") 21.14.03 Quit Axio () 21.19.12 # * petur wonders why the the signature of sw_i2c_write was changed 21.21.33 # roolku: why remove the const? 21.23.20 # petur: because otherwise I would need to duplicate sw_i2c() - once for read and one for write 21.23.49 Join Genesis [0] (n=genesis@86.74.78.214) 21.23.51 # ypo 21.23.53 # http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.meizu.com/support/articleread.asp%3Farticleid%3D446&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSA58700x07%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN 21.23.58 # could interesst c 21.24.01 # someone :) 21.24.14 Quit Christo1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.24.19 # petur: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/firmware/drivers/rtc/rtc_mr100.c?view=markup 21.25.25 # and why do we need sw_i2c() ? 21.26.04 # petur: could you elaborate? 21.27.53 # sw_i2c() calls sw_i2c_read/write() with some GPIO poking around. 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Could I get Wiki write permission so that I can upload my new IPod Color theme? 23.08.59 # sure 23.09.10 # Thank you 23.11.39 # done 23.12.34 # Thanks again. 23.15.54 Quit gromit` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.22.03 # did someone remove charging while using rockbox on the e200 series? 23.22.22 # Worked for me last I tried a few days ago 23.25.25 Quit Falco98 ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 23.25.46 Join Gr34t3st [0] (i=ChanceS@dialup-4.188.74.202.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) 23.25.52 # saratoga posted something on anythingbutipod saying it is disabled with having a FS patch added 23.26.08 # That's always been true 23.26.12 # The high power mode is disabled. 23.26.15 # Can anyone help me with a 30gb iPod with rockbox? 23.26.21 # video 23.26.22 # Or rather, isn't enabled by us, so it's default is disabled. 23.27.24 # o ok.. i was not sure 23.27.31 # Gr34t3st: we don't know since you haven't told us your problem ;) 23.27.59 Join eigma [0] (i=eigma@216.48.162.210) 23.29.28 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 23.30.05 # advlaptop2019 - depends on whether the device is on or not when you connect, right? 23.30.09 # Alright I was putting rockbox on my girlfriend's 3gb iPod video. She had about 80 songs that she bought off of iTunes and now they are gone. How can you get rockbox to play files from iTunes? 23.30.31 # i think if it is true then would this on the homepage be false then "New USB stack with limited capability. Currently it only requests full charging power. Ignore driver popups from Windows." 23.31.36 # if my e250 is on (and in rockbox) when I connect it, I get prompted to install drivers. and I get charging while playing back 23.31.36 # Gr34t3st: rockbox doesn't support DRM, so unless these songs are itunes plus songs ypu can't play them in rockbox. 23.31.48 # advlaptop2019: It does request full charging power. 23.32.02 # how do you know if they're iTunes plus or not? 23.32.06 # advlaptop2019: The trick is, we don't configure the charging circuit to then charge the battery using full power, so most of that power isn't used. 23.32.31 # o ok.. now i understand then 23.33.01 Quit ch4os_ ("Lost terminal") 23.33.02 # Gr34t3st: From the price you paid for them, if nothing else 23.33.16 # Gr34t3st: iTunes plus tracks are slightly more expensive 23.33.25 # Higher quality and no DRM 23.33.26 # rasher: Actually, I believe the iTunes Plus tracks are sometimes the same price now, aren't they? 23.33.33 # I heard they were changing them 23.33.39 # Is there ANY way to get the songs back? 23.33.39 # Ah, absolutely no idea about that 23.33.48 # or go back to apple firmware? 23.34.13 # Gr34t3st: You can simply uninstall Rockbox 23.34.22 # Gr34t3st: you can also dual-boot 23.34.24 # the songs should still be there, just boot into the apple firmware to play them 23.34.24 # Or boot into the Apple firmware using the dual boot feature. 23.34.39 # can you convert iTunes files to other formats? 23.35.30 # According to the iTunes license, only if you make a CD with them, then convert the CD 23.35.53 # is that the only way 23.36.44 # Gr34t3st: it's the only way sanctioned by apple 23.37.09 # great 23.37.44 # I can only encourage you to buy DRM-free tracks in the future to avoid such problems 23.38.19 Quit petur ("*plop*") 23.38.47 # so what do you suggest I do? 23.40.25 # Gr34t3st: depends on what you're comfortable with 23.40.59 # I just want to make sure those 80+ songs are still there and figure out someway to use them in rockbox. 23.41.24 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.43.30 Quit spr0k3t (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.43.30 # bye 23.43.37 Quit Genesis (Remote closed the connection) 23.44.14 # Gr34t3st: according to the FAQ you're unlikely to ever see DRM playback support in Rockbox 23.44.21 Join spr0k3t [0] (n=spr0k3t@CPE-69-76-171-220.kc.res.rr.com) 23.46.20 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.163) 23.46.20 Quit mf0102 (Client Quit) 23.47.59 # How do you add files to iPod without using iTunes? With rockbox on it. 23.49.34 # depends on if you care about playing them in the OF too. if not, just copy them over like any external hard drive. if so, use one of the million other programs that interact with the itunesdb 23.49.36 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/aliask) 23.50.13 Quit MethoS_mobile (Remote closed the connection) 23.50.24 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 23.51.20 Quit hannesd ("Client suicide") 23.51.34 Join BobSanders [0] (i=marvin@adsl-68-251-100-93.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) 23.53.59 Nick markun_ is now known as markun (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 23.57.45 # rasher: any news about the arabic translation? 23.57.53 # markun: nothing 23.58.48 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.58.49 # 'my' translator would also be really interested to see his work.