--- Log for 06.02.108 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.08 # linuxstb_: Ah, fair interpretation. It is a good option for users if it works, though since we don't support playlists yet. ;) 00.00.22 # Chained Ogg files is another example, and comparable to concatenated mpeg files. 00.00.31 # what do you mean will it join both of the videos together? 00.01.36 # I guess I should just test if rockbox handles it 00.02.20 Quit DerDome (Client Quit) 00.02.58 # jhMikeS should be able to tell us, but I would guess that at the very least seeking and the displayed runtime will be broken. 00.03.11 # Seems likely 00.03.17 # Well, lemme just download the smallest ED and check 00.04.01 # webguest27: I think the answer is that you can't easily join two video files together... 00.04.46 # linuxstb_: Well if you cat them, then use ffmpeg -i infile -acodec copy -vcodec copy outfile.mpeg, it should result in just re-containering the combined streams in one file, if what i've heard is correct. 00.04.56 # Whether that's "easy" depends on the user, I guess 00.05.30 # if you want i can paste the batch file i'm using with mencoder somewhere, it joins the videos if you drop multiple files on it. 00.05.46 # yeah but the thing is i don't know how to do that. can you guys please help me out on how to join them together? 00.06.07 # i use winff converter will that do it? 00.06.48 # No, winff won't do it. 00.06.51 Quit linuxstb_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 00.07.06 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-182-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.08.10 Join Imaginativeone [0] (n=Imaginat@c-69-251-71-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 00.08.11 # webguest27: you could try this batch file: http://pastebin.ca/893193 but you'll need to adjust some variables and the paths in the upper part of the file. 00.08.39 Quit hcs ("Leaving.") 00.10.58 # thank you. :) 00.11.49 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 00.12.44 # webguest27: but i think it only works this way when the inputfiles have the same resolution. 00.12.48 # Apparently rockbox handles concatenated mpeg2 files *very* gracefully 00.12.58 # It seeks and plays fine within the first part, and ignores any extra ones. 00.14.08 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 00.14.32 Join joshn_ [0] (n=joshn@ip68-102-228-19.ks.ok.cox.net) 00.14.42 # i just wan to join like 4 videos together that are already converter to the mpeg format rockbox reads. 00.16.53 # webguest27: something like this would work: vlc vid1 vid2 vid3 vid4 --sout-keep --sout "#std{access=file,mux=ps,dst=videoall.mpg}" 00.17.25 # of course #videolan would be a more appropriate channel to discuss VLC usage than here 00.17.30 # okok thank you! :) Bye 00.17.41 # (and I'm sure that other tools exist that can merge videos) 00.17.57 # webguest27: if they are already encoded for rockbox you could try this batch file: http://pastebin.ca/893203 (saves the transcoding). 00.18.22 # oh ok thank you! :) :) :) 00.18.33 # * dionoea notes that his solution doesn't transcode anything ... just remuxing 00.19.38 Quit Imaginativeone () 00.20.32 # >PaulJam: how to i save that batch file? 00.21.20 # save it as a normal text file with the extension .bat 00.21.57 # ok thank you. 00.24.21 # if i'm supposed to drag and drop the videos on it it doesn't work... 00.27.31 # have you adjusted th path to the mencoder.exe? (i feel like this gets a little bit offtopic, maybe we should continue via PM) 00.27.57 # how to i use that batch file? what do i name it? 00.28.29 Quit Aevum ("Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.") 00.29.00 # Simple concatenating of files won't work. It wouldn't make sense anyway 00.29.02 # i'm really sorry i just don't know how to do this stuff. 00.31.05 Quit Falco98 ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 00.31.38 Join Shaid` [0] (i=shaid@210-84-56-94.dyn.iinet.net.au) 00.32.17 # webguest27: it seems the batch file does indeed not work, sorry. i thought it used to work once. try the solution dionoea suggested. 00.33.48 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 00.34.05 # ok thank you i have to go now bye! :) 00.34.12 Quit webguest27 ("CGI:IRC") 00.36.30 # Llorean: Think concatenation has to do with the fact that two concatenated elementary streams should produce a legal stream. This makes no sense in the PES layer at all. 00.39.01 # I can't really say "at all" but forcing it to support that would make loading slow (since the whole file would need scanning to determine length) and add some complication. 00.44.16 # jhMikeS: Alright. 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one that runs rockbox would be even better 01.34.39 # there are plenty of good ones...what sort of features do you want? 01.35.33 # just mp3 (wma or ogg is not required) support actually, and also preferable is having hte player recognized as a "removable disk" under windows/linux 01.36.00 # i forgot the real name, "universal storage class" device or something :) 01.36.19 # still doesnt narrow it down any :) 01.36.36 # hmm, what else could i want? gapless playback would be good to have 01.36.46 # battery life > 6hours 01.37.03 # these are features that rockbox has on almost all of its targets 01.37.09 # bughunter2, how about the e280v1 or d2 (still working one port) 01.37.22 # d2? 01.37.38 # i don't like the e280, the navigation etc with the wheel ... 01.37.41 # (same as with ipods btw) 01.38.16 # bughunter2, the cowon iaudio d2.. a touchscreen 01.38.20 # i wouldnt recommend grabbing a device while the port is still in progress quite yet... 01.38.35 # if the original firmware is at least usable i'm fine with it 01.38.57 # then it is offtopic for this channel 01.39.23 # well, i do prefer a player that rockbox supports 01.39.36 # i bought a creative zen 8gb recently (before i had this iriver h340, returned it several times to iriver because of a broken battery) 01.39.43 # and it already is broken, it won't turn on 01.40.17 # scorche|w: If you wait until a port is finished to buy hardware, you may be too late... 01.41.04 # any chance i could get write permission to upload my WPS to the twiki? 01.41.29 # Sure, if you say what your twiki username is. 01.41.37 # have we gotten a "ladies and gentlemen" from the d2 yet? 01.41.38 # PhilipMourdjis 01.42.30 # Psyco: Done. 01.42.49 # scorche|w: It's nowhere near that stage yet... 01.43.06 # (but it seems to be progressing fast) 01.43.19 # linuxstb: then i still wouldnt recommend it for a non-dev... 01.43.31 # * scorche|w shrugs 01.43.41 # but i am a dev 01.43.43 # thanks 01.43.54 # Both devs and non-devs have drawers to store players in... 01.44.18 # * scorche|w wonders how big linuxstb's drawer has gotten :) 01.44.30 # * linuxstb is reminded he is about 3 months late going to the post office... 01.44.38 # something like that 01.44.57 # i still dont have the time yet anyway =/ 01.48.56 Join joshn__ [0] (n=joshn@ip68-102-228-19.ks.ok.cox.net) 01.50.25 Quit barrywardell () 01.51.19 # how about the archos 204? will rockbox work on it? 01.52.03 # the players that rockbox runs on are listed on the front page 01.53.15 # i know that, just wondering if somebody knows anything about if it'd be easy to port it actually 01.53.45 # well, you asked if rockbox will work...if it isnt on the front page, it wont work :) 01.54.02 # true that :P 01.54.13 # you cna look for information on port attempts in the new ports section of the forum and in the wiki 01.55.25 Quit JdGordon|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01.55.32 # the problem is that the players rockbox supports are "gone", i can't find them anywhere in my country 01.55.41 # well, i mean the big harddisk players 01.55.50 # not on ebay? 01.55.50 # like the older archos 01.56.07 # i don't like buying from ebay, what if the device is broken after a month of usage :/ 01.56.51 # ebay is your main option...it is where a lot of rockboxers get their devices from 01.57.17 # hmm 01.58.01 Join Imaginativeone [0] (n=Imaginat@c-69-251-71-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 01.59.08 # scorche|w: so, and then (if i'd buy one) just hope the device works? :P 01.59.17 Quit perrikwp ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.59.29 # my new creative zen, stopped working after 3 weeks of usage 01.59.39 # my older iriver h340se, stopped working several times :P 01.59.41 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.00.07 # i kinda lost faith in trusting these devices :P 02.01.28 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=Miranda@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 02.02.00 Join perrikwp [0] (i=982165ed@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6ffaea3039352c2c) 02.03.45 # if your h300's only problem is the battery i would rather replace that and use the H300 with rockbox. 02.04.45 # it's harddisk is also broken :( 02.07.35 Quit joshn_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.08.01 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 02.08.13 # then replace that too, you have to take it out to replace the battery anyway. i think the MK4004/6GAH drives aren't that expensive. 02.09.25 # hmm, is that really my only option? 02.11.30 # no, but i thought it would be a pity to not use the h300 if it is easy fixable (assuming the HD and battery are the only broken parts). it is a very nice player with rockbox. 02.12.21 # i know it's a nice player with rockbox :( 02.12.22 # :P 02.12.45 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-54e2527bdf9d6583) 02.14.33 # any news on the Arabic translation? 02.15.07 # you can find the logs here: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/ 02.16.08 Quit Imaginativeone (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.16.23 Join avh22 [0] (n=alex@bas2-toronto12-1128738162.dsl.bell.ca) 02.20.37 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.22.45 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.23.10 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.23.10 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 02.23.59 # bedtime, goodnite :) 02.27.49 # Hi, could someone give me write permission for the wiki? 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Anywhere you want. 07.29.22 # i have a ".gbc" file but where do i put it 07.29.27 # anywhere you want (although i wouldnt suggest inside the .rockbox folder) 07.29.35 # ? 07.29.49 # i thought every thing goes in the .rockbox folder 07.29.53 # No 07.29.55 # no 07.30.00 # where did you get that idea? 07.30.06 # i put it in the games folder then it wasn't there 07.30.13 # when i checked 07.30.19 # "games folder"? 07.30.31 # then i changed my settings to view all files 07.30.33 # game 07.30.37 # under plugins 07.30.47 # what told you to put it there? 07.30.56 # i think .gbc is not supported by rockboy? 07.31.00 # somebody on the forums 07.31.01 # sure it is 07.31.07 # If you put it there, it will not appear under the "Plugins" menu in Rockbox. 07.31.12 # o 07.31.14 # You have to find it through the "Files" area. 07.31.14 # then where 07.31.15 # azn: where?...can you link me? 07.31.42 # azn, put it anywhere and use the file browser to run it 07.31.45 # .gbc _is_ supported by Rockboy. 07.32.15 # Just as if it were a music file, just "play" it. 07.32.30 # let me try that 07.32.51 # could i put it in the wps folder 07.32.59 # Yes, but why? 07.33.02 # why are you still trying to put it in those folders? 07.33.24 # how do i put it into the playlist 07.33.30 # What??? 07.33.45 # azn: please read the manual...it will explain what to do 07.34.03 # dude...im an idiot 07.34.10 # the manual didn't tell me anything 07.34.20 # it just said it won't appear in the plugins 07.34.34 # odd...it certainly shows me the answer 07.34.44 # It will appear under "Files", just like any other file. 07.34.56 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 07.37.55 # it works on the nano right 07.38.04 # yes 07.38.17 # as i said, it says quite plainly in the manual what you need to do 07.38.27 # have a look at chapter 10 07.38.59 # it says plugin return error 07.39.12 # eh? 07.39.26 # when i open it 07.39.39 # did you look in the manual to see what to do as i said? 07.40.18 # ch 10 where 07.40.21 # im in the manual 07.40.23 # online 07.40.32 # read.. 07.42.02 # .cfg? 07.42.19 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-1800009.3.4 07.42.29 # linked for your convinience 07.43.19 # thats ch. 9 07.43.54 # but where is the filebrowser 07.43.59 # that is what i don't understand 07.44.02 # sorry...i was looking in a different manual 07.44.08 # you do want chapter 9 07.44.20 # in the main menu 07.44.22 # The file browser is the "Files" entry in the main menu. 07.46.34 # so just drop the file into the ipod 07.47.28 # yes, that's what we have been telling you 07.47.40 Join fyre^OS [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-160-247.nyc.res.rr.com) 07.47.46 # i got it in but when i load the file i get a yellowscreen 07.47.56 # when i open it 07.49.26 # so what do i do 07.50.39 # Try another rom. 07.54.03 # finally i got 07.54.04 # it 07.55.04 # thanks guys 07.56.24 Quit Horschti ("electromagnetic radiation from satellite debris") 07.57.48 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 07.57.57 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 07.58.41 Quit azn ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.59.53 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 08.02.10 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@79.131.121.8) 08.02.36 Quit tvelocity_ (Client Quit) 08.04.54 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.05.01 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-240-168.pools.arcor-ip.net) 08.09.24 Quit spr0k3t_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.10.00 Join spr0k3t_ [0] (n=spr0k3t@CPE-69-76-171-220.kc.res.rr.com) 08.11.41 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096649533.dsl.bell.ca) 08.14.45 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B0DA88.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.17.23 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 08.17.47 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 08.18.03 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.18.15 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 08.32.12 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.32.25 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 08.33.43 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.34.29 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.41.05 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.42.01 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 08.45.23 Quit karashata (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet") 08.45.33 # Nico_P: hi, it should be obvious why the cuesheet code crashes without a slash. strcat(buffer, NULL); causes a segfault 08.47.47 # Many bugs are obvious once you tracked down the real cause... 08.47.48 # ah, never mind. you didn't mean that :) 08.48.33 # E.g. I know now why the peakmeter misbehaves as soon as more than one peakmeter is drawn at the same time. It has nothing to do with the remote lcd being special or so 08.49.05 # It's just that peak_meter_draw() is stateful - it uses 3 static variables 08.49.38 # Looks like that peakmeter rewrite is really overdue now :/ 08.52.11 Join at0m [0] (n=at0m@d51520B77.access.telenet.be) 08.54.40 Join eulero [0] (n=975cb005@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f8f1c260ad48568f) 08.54.46 # hi all 08.54.57 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.55.36 # may i ask for a doubt ? 08.59.51 Nick at0m is now known as at0m|c (n=at0m@d51520B77.access.telenet.be) 09.05.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.07.36 Quit cool_walking_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.10.56 Join BenniBoya [0] (n=Rofl@dsl-58-6-93-62.act.westnet.com.au) 09.12.14 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 09.14.28 # eulero: what do you mean? 09.18.16 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-28-93.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.27.12 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.30.49 # i would like to know if ipod classic is a 5.5G 09.31.09 # eulero: no, it isn't 09.31.28 # than, no support for ipod classic ? 09.31.29 # the classic is an entirely different beast, and rockbox does not run on it 09.31.50 # :( 09.32.26 # yes, that sucks 09.32.46 # what a pity .... i had a nano2G .... bought Classic thinking to mod .... 09.32.53 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=anthony@203.161.101.209.static.amnet.net.au) 09.33.09 # now i have two unmodding ipod .... 09.33.12 # damn .... 09.34.04 # that sucks even more :-( 09.34.20 # neither volume uncap is possible on classic ? 09.35.26 # i have no idea 09.35.43 # tnx 09.38.11 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.40.44 Join MethoS_mobile [0] (n=clemens@p54894555.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.44.43 Quit eulero ("CGI:IRC") 09.47.09 # "Classic" is such a misleading name... 09.47.38 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy11.netz.sbs.de) 09.49.37 # pondlife: indeed 09.50.01 Join BenniBoya__ [0] (n=Rofl@dsl-58-6-93-62.act.westnet.com.au) 10.00.03 # In what way? Taken in the context of the Touch and iPhone, I think "classic" is a good description of that ipod - it's the classic design (from a user's POV) 10.00.48 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 10.01.15 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 10.01.21 Join advlaptop2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 10.01.35 Quit advlaptop2019 (Nick collision from services.) 10.01.37 Nick advlaptop2019_ is now known as advlaptop2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 10.02.25 Quit BenniBoya__ ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 3.0b2/2007121120]") 10.03.22 # Slasheri: what I meant was that the func shouldn't be given a filename without a slash, but it happens 10.03.37 Quit MethoS_mobile (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.04.11 Join MethoS_mobile [0] (n=clemens@p54894555.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.05.57 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@bl10-19-147.dsl.telepac.pt) 10.07.50 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 10.08.03 Quit BenniBoya (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.13.26 # Nico_P: Any ideas about the resume-on-startup issue? 10.13.38 # Or shall I just start hacking away? 10.13.44 # pondlife: could you remind me the FS number? 10.14.18 # 8511 10.14.43 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 10.15.04 # I suspect this may be the easiest one of the current playback issues to get a handle on. And hopefully also fix the weird track skipping on buffering? 10.15.23 # i.e. I stick with my "one problem, many symptoms" diagnosis ;) 10.19.33 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 10.19.39 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.22.32 Quit CaptainSquid ("Miranda IM!") 10.28.15 # pondlife: I must've overlooked some side effects in my latest bug fixes in playback.c 10.28.45 # I suspect this one's ages old - probably when you fixed the transition point 10.31.58 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 10.32.37 # It may be that the offset/index passed into some playback routines is still the "codec" position, not the "WPS" one 10.33.10 Quit qweru ("moo") 10.33.13 # I'm not too sure, though ;) 10.33.19 # could 8520 be related? 10.38.59 # petur: seen this morning's log (starting 08:48)? 10.40.26 # no, been pretty busy here at work. Will have a peek 10.41.10 # nice find 10.41.41 # pixelma: possibly 10.50.22 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 10.56.19 # pondlife: what I find odd os that people report that the problem seems to have started at ~r16100, but the last playback.c change was r16039 10.56.26 # s/os/is 10.58.10 # Maybe a race condition now shown up by the spinlock changes? 10.59.53 # maybe 11.00.46 # * Nico_P is really feeling the lack of a target 11.00.50 # my impression is that it is a timing issue too 11.01.00 # LinusN: ping 11.01.06 # pong 11.01.51 # LinusN: would you allow amiconnto send me your ipod video for testing purposes? 11.01.58 # sure 11.03.26 # thanks you :) 11.03.44 # should help me get into real debugging 11.05.07 # Nico_P: but you have to promise to not go skating with it ;) 11.05.28 # skating or skiing? 11.05.29 # hehe, I think I've learnt the lesson :) 11.05.41 # I won't be doing any of those any time soon anyway 11.05.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.05.54 # Nico_P: you lost a device? 11.06.44 # LinusN: I damaged my F's HD in a rather stupid iceskating accident 11.17.24 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 11.23.45 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964B24.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.24.02 # anyone else interested in this : http://godeater.cream.org/prompt.png ? 11.24.23 # I should add it works for svn repositories too, and adds the current revision to the branch display too 11.25.30 # cool 11.25.55 # http://godeater.cream.org/fancy_bash_prompt.sh 11.26.09 # I was wondering if I should host it in the wiki somewhere 11.26.11 # but not sure where 11.26.53 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet14.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 11.26.59 # oh, and it also uses different colours when you're logged in as root, to hilight the fact that you should double check your commands before you run them ;) 11.27.44 # why not add an extra line as root saying "Don't do anything stupid. Yes, I'm talking to YOU." 11.29.20 # Nico_P: I have a spare 40GB HD, any use to you? 11.29.45 # pondlife: sure 11.29.58 # You have an F40, not an F20 ? 11.30.05 # have/had, whatever 11.30.08 # yes, it's an F40 11.30.20 # OK, mail me where to send the drive.. 11.30.59 # Shaid: I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader ;) 11.32.02 # * GodEater just noticed his screenshot is pointing to the wrong prompt with the checked out "gigabeats" branch =/ 11.32.10 # It'll be cheap - the cost is only one completely fixed playback engine ;) 11.32.18 # ^ Nico_P 11.32.43 # hehe 11.35.01 # pondlife: you're an evil evil man 11.36.14 # I think it's a fair deal 11.36.59 # you've just basically said to Nico, "it's yours for the price of an eternity of sleepless nights, and a full head of grey hair" 11.37.19 # haha, he's probably half way there anyway 11.37.21 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.37.44 # indeed. sleepless nights but no grey hair yet :) 11.37.54 # I was enjoying a sleepless night when I first thought up the buffering API 11.38.08 # Bad bad pondlife 11.38.09 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A79B0.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.38.32 # I was thinking it would never actually be written, but Nico_P made it happen 11.38.50 # And now we can at least maintain playback.c 11.39.16 # Just need to fix up the remaining bugs, and optimise the buffering some more I think. 11.39.48 # *just* 11.39.52 # ;) 11.46.21 # I like that you keep saying "we" :) 11.46.51 # I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave yesterday. 11.46.54 # And GodEater too 11.47.43 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3079.gwdg.de) 11.47.47 # :P 11.47.52 # Seriously, I'd love to do some more fixage, but I really don't have the time.. Wait until summer if you want 11.48.20 # no no, I enjoy needling you too much 11.50.18 Quit spr0k3t_ () 11.53.49 Quit MethoS_mobile (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.54.44 Quit goffa_ (Remote closed the connection) 11.54.48 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 12.12.25 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.16.40 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 12.16.51 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.18.42 Join SSnake [0] (n=dfsff@host-84-221-63-173.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) 12.18.55 # hello everyone 12.19.57 # please could anyone help me on a weird error? 12.20.22 # i'm trying to compile something written by me 12.20.30 # shoot 12.20.39 # thanks linux 12.20.40 # so 12.20.47 # lds error 12.20.51 # (linek) 12.20.54 # (linker) 12.21.10 # the error is 12.21.17 # "non constant expression for origin" 12.21.26 # i'm writeing a plugin 12.22.04 # tried to copy / paste hello word.c and the results are the same 12.22.29 # i'm compiling a multi source plugin 12.22.34 # created new dir 12.22.41 # added in SOURCES 12.22.56 # copy/pasted sudoku Makefile in my new dir 12.23.05 # err i meant add in SUBDIRS 12.23.15 # any suggestions? 12.24.21 Join Casainho_ [0] (n=chatzill@81.193.29.46) 12.25.29 Join BuNsiE [0] (n=bunsiebu@124.185.3.16) 12.25.54 # anyone know whats up with the svn server? 12.26.14 # i cant connect to it... 12.26.48 Quit Casainho_ (Client Quit) 12.27.47 # so no help for me... SIGH 12.28.14 # Bunsie... 12.30.08 # yes? 12.30.18 # sorry was eating.. 12.30.21 # :> 12.30.59 # have u ever had an error like this: "non constant expression for origin" 12.31.10 # popped by the linker 12.31.18 # woh, no 12.31.19 # in linking link.lds 12.31.40 # mmmmm i'm starting to think there's some problem with my linux distro 12.31.45 # i have absolutely no idea what that would mean sorry 12.31.54 # pfff 12.31.58 # i have no idea too 12.32.10 # could you think of a time that it could of been corrupted? 12.32.25 # mmm no 12.32.27 # of course that would be of little help hah 12.32.40 # just reinstalled old the dev env 12.32.44 # *all 12.33.03 # with roxckboxdev.sh etc 12.33.09 # configure 12.33.13 # i'll tell you a little secret, im still using windows 12.33.15 # >.< 12.33.17 # :> 12.33.25 # so u compile under windows.... 12.33.29 # mm 12.33.48 # using a virtual machine to run linux 12.34.06 # ah i read something 12.34.09 # i do it through that, the player is called VMware 12.34.15 # yep 12.34.17 # i remember 12.34.30 # the ~200MB file with virtual machine 12.34.42 # yep 12.34.46 # i have a debian server i use to compile 12.34.57 # but... 12.35.40 # now what is debian? i know that the ~200mb is called that but ^o) 12.35.41 # i'm don't know linux systems too well 12.36.00 # i think it's the same distro u use 12.36.09 # just a newer version maybe 12.36.10 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-98-216-170-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 12.36.23 # of? 12.36.28 # linux 12.36.37 # thought so yooo 12.36.50 # it's something like windows 98 and ME 12.36.50 # it contans like heaps of apps too 12.36.59 # yeah 12.38.04 # well this was a fresh reinstall as i had to reboot, and only now have i got around to instaling it again, so do you think there could be something wrong with how it connects to my card > internet 12.38.19 # ? 12.39.26 Join BitTorment [0] (n=martin@87-194-94-92.bethere.co.uk) 12.39.41 # ? 12.39.45 # do u have any problems? 12.40.07 # i don't understand your question 12.40.27 # well i cant get onto the rockbox svn server to download things 12.41.40 # ah yes sorry 12.42.04 # never tried to connect before? 12.42.20 # well yes before 12.42.26 # but not with this new install 12.42.44 # how do i connect to something else? just to check that i can connect? 12.43.09 Quit Casainho (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.43.20 # because is "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox" to get the current source 12.43.43 # because all i is doing* >.< im so stupid 12.43.53 # nvm ill work it out by myself its cool 12.45.00 Quit BuNsiE () 12.45.26 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 12.46.46 # honestly i don't know 12.46.53 # never used a vmware image 12.47.21 # BuNsiE: that exact command works fine here 12.47.28 # maybe there are some problems with /etc/network/interfaces 12.47.30 Quit xushi (Remote closed the connection) 12.47.39 # or /etc/resolv 12.47.40 # sorry guys have to go 12.47.51 # yeah bughunter is right 12.47.58 # some DNS problems 12.48.07 # maybe 12.48.16 # have a nice day guys 12.48.33 # SSnake: have a niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice day! 12.48.33 Quit SSnake () 12.48.34 # :P 12.52.43 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B1625FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.00.05 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.04.53 # seems like there should be a new bootloader release for the H300 soon, the people in the MR forum are starting to distribute svn bootloader that seem to cause trouble for some users (forunately no bricks yet) 13.05.19 # so long as they don't come crying to us... 13.05.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.07.50 # true 13.09.12 Join tri170391 [0] (n=tri17039@117.6.46.52) 13.09.54 Quit tri170391 (Remote closed the connection) 13.12.59 Join spr0k3t [0] (n=spr0k3t@CPE-69-76-171-220.kc.res.rr.com) 13.17.46 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-011.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 13.19.11 # Zagor: I just submitted FS#8562 with a patch that should (if I read all specs correctly) contain some fixes. No behaviour improvement yet unfortunately. 13.19.55 Join david-- [0] (n=opera@84.72.254.113) 13.20.35 # gevaerts: the third change is interesting 13.20.48 Part david-- 13.23.14 # Zagor: I'm not sure about that one, but it still works as well as before, and the lines I removed are not relevant to the endpoint direction. 13.24.01 # gevaerts: I recall reading something about all endpoint directions needing to be initialized. 13.24.33 # right, see page 32-78 13.25.01 # "If one endpoint direction is enabled and the paired endpoint of opposite direction is disabled then the unused direction type must be changed from the default control-type to any other type (IE. Bulk-type). leaving an unconfigured endpoint control will cause undefined behavior for the data pid tracking on the active endpoint/direction." 13.25.35 # Zagor: Ah yes. I didn't see that bit. That change is wrong then 13.31.26 # Zagor: I'd like to make the send-case callback-driven as well. Do you have any objections to that ? 13.32.19 # what part of it do you mean? 13.33.49 # anyway, I have no objections. the goal is to get it working. once it works we can debate design issues. 13.33.56 # Zagor: remove the waiting part from prime_transfer(), and replacing that with a callback to the caller. Basically the same way that receives are handled. 13.34.30 # yeah the wait (as lots of other things) is there for testing. desperate attempts to find out what's wrong... 13.34.40 # Zagor: yes. That should be the first goal. It's just that the current structure looks a bit too restricted to me 13.35.02 # feel free to change anything you want 13.35.58 # Zagor: What I noticed its that bwhatever I tried (transfer alignment, different sizes,...) it always sends 95 bytes with a wrong checksum, but correct content. 13.36.08 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.36.13 # weird 13.37.20 # I need to go to a meeting. See you later. 13.37.30 # bye 13.37.48 Join sandberg_ [0] (n=sandberg@gatekeeper.ua.sandberg.pp.se) 13.38.58 Quit sandberg (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 13.39.21 Quit conando () 13.39.51 Join conando [0] (n=john@dslb-084-060-149-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.43.58 Quit conando (Client Quit) 13.45.19 Join conando [0] (n=john@dslb-084-060-149-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.46.44 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 13.50.26 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.163) 13.58.21 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A97FFD.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.59.48 # gevaerts: do you really believe the 0xfffff000 masking is necessary? 14.02.24 # are ptr1-4 required to begin on 4K boundaries? 14.02.30 # and not ptr0? 14.08.33 # ok, now i see 14.14.39 Join prepreglow [0] (i=thomj@tvilling2.pvv.ntnu.no) 14.14.49 # * GodEater in enjoying the monologue 14.14.52 # s/in/is 14.14.55 # hooray, my irc screen is now on a box i can't access... 14.15.32 Quit Addicted ("Server does not respond.") 14.16.08 # prepreglow: you can access it through irc ;)) 14.24.00 # gevaerts: for the serial usb, i think we need to set the multiplier field to something other than 0 in the queue head (max_pkt_length) 14.26.14 # LinusN: did you consider (at all) the question I posed earlier regarding the bash prompt? Is there an area in the wiki for useful tools like this, or should I make a new one ? 14.26.21 # LinusN: maybe. I didn't look at serial yet. 14.26.38 # GodEater: pick one :-) 14.27.02 # pick a page, any page.... 14.27.09 # gevaerts: hmm, i believe the serial usb is an interrupt endpoint, so it should probably be 0 14.27.59 # LinusN: serial is usually bulk 14.28.05 # it is? 14.28.45 # so you say that the correct data is sent, but the length is wrong? 14.30.23 # LinusN: yes. At least for the storage case, it should send 4096 bytes (in 512-byte packets), and it sends 95 bytes. The crc is wrong, but the 95 bytes that get sent match what the OF sends for the same part of the flash 14.31.07 # interesting 14.31.20 # "the same part of the flash"? 14.31.43 # LinusN: it's reading the partition table. 14.31.50 # ah 14.32.25 # LinusN: usbserial in linux uses bulk for most or all serial devices 14.32.56 # i see 14.33.28 # i'm a little curious, how do we know that the td's aren't cached? 14.33.47 # ah, i see it now 14.34.23 # td_array is only a pointer to the uncached alias of _td_array 14.34.26 Join SacredTerror [0] (n=Miranda@pool-71-190-214-151.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) 14.35.47 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy11.netz.sbs.de) 14.47.11 # * prepreglow is thrilled to see usb work 14.48.01 Quit preglow (Nick collision from services.) 14.48.05 Nick prepreglow is now known as preglow (i=thomj@tvilling2.pvv.ntnu.no) 14.48.07 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-80eb26ef72dc6cda) 14.48.12 Join preglow_ [0] (n=thomj@hekta.edt.aft.hist.no) 14.48.19 # bah, of course it keeps on coming... 14.51.15 # Zombie preglows 14.55.48 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 14.55.55 Quit ol_schoola () 14.56.02 # think i'm just going to migrate to another shell once i get this one back... 15.01.03 Join postglow [0] (n=54bd6d32@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3129ca326ffc90b6) 15.05.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.07.50 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.08.27 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 15.21.37 Join nicktastique [0] (n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic) 15.22.14 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A79B0.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.25.43 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-209-105.student.uu.se) 15.27.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentTools 15.30.53 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955E616.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.32.34 Join magenpie [0] (n=magpie@75.141.14.210) 15.34.06 # i can't figure out how to do voice recording on c250 15.38.17 Quit postglow ("CGI:IRC") 15.39.38 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549664C3.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.41.57 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955F072.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.48.05 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 15.52.28 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 15.52.30 Quit ein1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.54.02 Join maddlah [0] (n=maddler@208.84.144.107) 15.54.14 Quit maddlah (Client Quit) 15.55.46 # magenpie: just saw that the button is wrong. If you want to call the recording settings menu from within the recording screen, you need to press the "menu" button, in the settings chose "Source > Microphone" 15.56.12 # (I meant that the manual names a wrong button) 15.57.49 # hmm... and "select" to start the recording 15.57.50 # i got that 15.58.07 # and press the record button, right? 15.58.28 # but i don't find the recording saved in the Voice folder 15.58.36 Quit maddler ("connection reset by beer!") 15.58.45 Join maddler [0] (n=maddler@ns2.komputika.net) 15.59.11 Quit maddler (Client Quit) 15.59.53 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.00.39 Part LinusN 16.00.55 Join seablue [0] (n=s@0x535c13cc.banxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 16.00.56 Quit goffa_ (Remote closed the connection) 16.01.01 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 16.01.53 # magenpie: if you didn't set a recording dir it will be in the root 16.02.13 # per default the recording will be saved to the root, but you could set a different one as recording directory (if you want to reuse the Voice folder of the original firmware but Rockbox doesn't put recordings from different sources into different folders but the recordings get a different name, e.g. "R_MIC_*" for records from the internal microphone) 16.02.23 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 16.03.37 # are the recordings automatically saved? 16.03.46 # i don't see anything in root 16.04.59 # magenpie: Did you set a folder to be a recording folder? 16.05.13 # yes, Voice 16.05.25 # let me try once more... 16.05.34 # don't want to be telling you wrong thing 16.06.33 # yes, did you chose "select" to start thee recording? I know it's a little awkward ATM... you'll see the statusbar icon change to a circle and time and size will increase 16.07.15 # one sec 16.07.44 # "stop" is on long power and a little unresponsive (while it writes the data away) 16.09.00 # first i have to set recording dir, right? 16.09.19 # Yes. 16.09.28 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 16.09.33 # That way you'll know where your files are going. 16.09.41 # so, menu, recording, voice, select? 16.09.46 # you don't have to - if you are fine with the root, or if you know it is already set 16.09.58 # chose as you like 16.10.43 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.10.46 # turned it off! lol 16.11.32 # held power too long? 16.11.36 # yup 16.11.48 # ok, i did it, now to see if i can replay it 16.12.14 # the keymap is really not nice :\ 16.12.49 # i don't have it yet 16.12.53 # phooey 16.13.02 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.13.36 Quit CaptainSquid (Remote closed the connection) 16.13.36 # and having trouble getting back to main menu 16.14.46 # ok, it worked, ty! 16.15.07 # but i guess i didn't set recording dir because it's in root 16.15.26 # well, it's a good start 16.16.20 Join maddler [0] (n=maddler@217-133-171-24.b2b.tiscali.it) 16.17.37 # i don't hear anything...got to work on this 16.18.22 Join maddlah [0] (n=maddler@ns2.komputika.net) 16.18.26 Quit maddlah (Client Quit) 16.20.37 Join maddlah [0] (n=maddler@ns2.komputika.net) 16.20.45 Quit maddlah (Client Quit) 16.21.18 # i hear it... 16.21.32 # context menu=long select? 16.23.08 # in the browsers, yes 16.26.47 # ok, so if i do a long select on the *mic file i should get menu and be able to delete? 16.27.00 # yes 16.27.41 # that's not working although i have been able to access that menu before 16.28.08 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@dhcp-892b9b57.ucd.ie) 16.28.11 # works here 16.29.01 # darn 16.29.42 # just got it 16.31.21 # ok, thanks guys 16.35.51 Join scorche|w [0] (n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 16.39.48 # 'bout bloody time 16.39.52 Quit preglow ("leaving") 16.40.05 Quit preglow_ ("leaving") 16.42.12 Join preglow [0] (i=thomj@rockbox/developer/preglow) 16.43.54 Quit goffa (Remote closed the connection) 16.43.58 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 16.43.59 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 16.46.27 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 16.49.10 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet17.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 16.56.45 Join stewball`sleep [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.106.252.55) 16.57.13 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.58.28 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 16.58.31 Quit maddler ("connection reset by beer!") 17.00.59 Join maddler [0] (n=maddler@cabbage.komputika.net) 17.01.44 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.02.03 Quit defukt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.03.17 # i can't seem to replicate what i did to record 17.04.01 Quit gevaerts ("going home") 17.05.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.07.52 Quit conando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.14.32 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 17.14.43 Join simonrvn_ [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 17.15.00 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 17.15.13 Join agm3nt [0] (n=opera@bartek.tu.kielce.pl) 17.15.58 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 17.18.28 Quit SacredTerror (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.19.32 Join webguest42 [0] (n=5382d817@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6e47df08f719c7d2) 17.19.52 Quit webguest42 (Client Quit) 17.29.29 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.30.07 Quit simonrvn (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.30.07 Nick simonrvn_ is now known as simonrvn (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 17.31.19 Join Axio [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net) 17.31.37 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-011.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 17.37.38 Join SSnake [0] (n=dfsff@host-84-220-234-41.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) 17.37.42 # hi 17.41.15 # Guys, can someone point me the file, where backlight is turned on on a button press? 17.41.30 # "the file" ? 17.41.39 # in the source code 17.41.47 # ah 17.42.16 # searched several files (action.c, backlight.c, and more) but I couldn't manage to find it 17.43.02 # mmmm i dont'think it exists 17.43.25 # probably you have to check buttons in a "while" cicle 17.43.32 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 17.43.40 # and then call the function accordingly 17.43.41 # kugel: looks like it's firmware/drivers/button.c 17.44.06 # line 280 17.44.58 Join AST2 [0] (i=AST@bzq-84-109-138-10.red.bezeqint.net) 17.45.17 # markun: Thanks, did you know that, or how did you find it? 17.45.33 # I guessed it was there and then looked 17.45.39 # ok 17.45.45 # and it was :) 17.45.52 # * linuxstb gives markun a cookie 17.46.24 # * markun eats cookie 17.46.44 Quit seablue ("life, death, life, death") 17.46.47 # * linuxstb has no cookies left, before anyone else asks. 17.46.55 Join ToHellWithGA [0] (n=ryan@mail.projsolco.com) 17.47.02 Join SashaKhamkov [0] (n=SashaKha@IGLD-83-130-216-23.inter.net.il) 17.47.09 # * kugel doesn't accept cookies 17.47.16 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 17.47.33 # so rockbox likes fat32 while my macbook and ipod linux like hfs+ 17.47.56 # could y'all recommend a good guide on how to get them all to get along? 17.48.53 # The manual has a link to instructions to convert to FAT32. 17.49.20 Join Psyco [0] (n=opera@87-194-218-196.bethere.co.uk) 17.49.29 # right, but once i have fat32 i can't use it with ipod linux, itunes on osx, or files over 4GB 17.49.30 # Your macbook will like FAT32, and I think IPL can use it as well now. 17.49.55 # There's no other solution - Rockbox only understands FAT32. 17.50.04 # ok 17.50.36 Quit AST2 ("Leaving") 17.50.51 # does rockbox's fat32 partition have to be the first useable partition? 17.51.12 # Rockbox will try to mount each primary partition in turn, until it finds a valid FAT32 partition. 17.51.22 Join ast2 [0] (i=vlt@bzq-84-109-138-10.red.bezeqint.net) 17.52.00 # But be aware that HFS+ formatted ipods have an Apple Partition Map, not a DOS Partition Table - Rockbox only understands the latter. 17.52.03 # munny. so i can do videos and large files on hfs+ and put rockbox and music on a later partition 17.52.16 # snap 17.55.22 # the PLUGIN_API doc seems to be really old 17.55.26 Quit SashaKhamkov ("Leaving") 17.55.39 # maybe i should just use on itunes alternative like gtkpod 17.55.57 Quit ast2 (Client Quit) 17.56.12 # does a video resize function exist? 17.56.20 # to be used in a plugin 17.56.42 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 17.56.49 # i peeked at some source code... 17.57.03 # it seems there's something related in bmp.c 17.57.05 # TellHellWithGA: Keep a watch on this project if you're looking for an iTunes alternative: http://www.songbirdnest.com/ 17.57.06 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 17.58.28 # markun: thanks, the file doesn't seem to help me much though 17.58.44 # at least not in the way I hoped 17.58.53 # excuse me kugel 17.59.11 # why are you looking at buttons.c? 17.59.13 # i mean 17.59.27 # can't you use a loop and a call to the backlight funciont? 17.59.31 Join Sanus|art [0] (n=5382d817@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c2ada3e9feed8178) 17.59.54 # !? 17.59.55 # i ask because i'm trying to better understand rockbox api 18.01.05 # i think in plugins you use rb->button_get(true) 18.01.27 Quit Sanus|art (Client Quit) 18.01.27 # then check the returned value 18.01.35 # in a loop 18.01.47 # and set backlight everytime you press sometingh 18.01.52 # am i wrong? 18.02.00 # I don't talk about plugins 18.02.21 # rb->* is the rockbox plugin api 18.02.40 # mm yep 18.03.01 # are you trying to change something kernel related? 18.03.02 # I don't to edit/make a plugin 18.03.18 # Yes 18.03.23 # :> 18.04.50 # I want the scroll wheel and the left/right buttons not to turn on the backlight when I'm in the wps 18.05.26 # SSnake: it would be nice and much more readable, especially in the logs, if you would put your thoughts on one line... thanks (see guidelines by the way) ;) 18.06.14 # at least one though = one line 18.06.15 # ok pixelma i'll do it, thanks for the advice. 18.07.26 Quit ToHellWithGA (Nick collision from services.) 18.07.44 Join ToHellWithGA [0] (n=ryan@mail.projsolco.com) 18.11.26 # however about plugin API: is provided some video resize function ? 18.11.35 # kugel: Currently, the firmware/ code doesn't know which screen is active in the apps/ code. One way would be to introduce a function in button.c called something like "backlight_mode" which the apps/ code would need to call when entering and leaving the WPS to change the backlight mode (stored in a local variable in button.c) between "all buttons" and "some buttons". 18.11.58 # SSnake: Do you really mean "video" (as in movies), or just a still image (bitmap) ? 18.12.45 # just sill images. I mean some kind of function that takes a fb_data buffer of 640x480 and resizes down to 220x176 (for example) 18.13.53 # Then no. Although I think there are some bitmap resizing patches on flyspray. 18.14.11 # i'm trying to convert an open source game running in 320x240 to color targets with smaller displays 18.14.20 # ah, I thought I could #include "action.h", and if ACTION_WPS_VOLUP/_VOLDOWN out 18.14.47 # wasn't bitmap rezizing committed some time ago? i thought sliding puzzle uses it. 18.14.52 # SSnake: A fundamental principle of Rockbox is to not do things at runtime that can be done at compile-time. Resizing bmp files for the target's LCD size can be done in advance. 18.14.53 # linuxstb: I *think* that some simple bmp resizing for plugins entered with the sliding_puzzle rework 18.15.01 # * linuxstb missed that... 18.15.32 # at least it scales my 40x40 album art to 80x80 in my c250 display... ;) 18.16.06 # so it seems i i have to check sliding puzzle 18.16.15 Part Psyco 18.16.43 # SSnake: Why not just convert in advance? 18.17.08 Join Mediapirate [0] (n=josh@client-86-0-121-32.nrth.adsl.virgin.net) 18.17.20 # @pixelma: i need to compose the bacrkoud with tiles + sprites on it and then resize all the video buffer 18.17.38 # You don't really want a 640x480 (600KB!) bitmap - plugins only have 512KB of RAM to use (unless you stop audio playback and claim the entire RAM). 18.18.01 # oh that's another important news i dunno 18.18.12 # i thought i had ~30MB 18.18.13 Part Mediapirate ("Konversation terminated!") 18.18.18 Join Mediapirate [0] (n=josh@client-86-0-121-32.nrth.adsl.virgin.net) 18.18.22 # you have (probably) 18.18.29 # but plugins can only use 512kb 18.18.29 # Hi everyone 18.18.43 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@92.227.22.209) 18.18.45 # SSnake: You only have 30MB if you stop music playback. We don't want plugins to do that if it can be avoided. 18.19.37 # just like the pictureflow plugin does 18.19.38 # mmmmm i dont' know: probably i can do it with graphics, but not with audio 18.19.59 # it's a game with it's own audio 18.20.08 # SSnake: You should look at how other plugins use bitmaps - they are stored in the apps/plugins/bitmaps/native directory in the source code, and then at compile-time are linked into the plugin binary itself. Plugins don't load them at runtime. 18.22.12 # The apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/SOURCES file determines which bitmaps are used for which targets - they are pre-scaled to the required size. 18.22.13 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 18.22.30 # mmmm it becomes really hard: the games has hardcoded hex tiles values. I'd need to convert to bitmap/resize etc 18.22.39 # Mediapirate: Why did you open a personal chat channel on me? 18.22.45 # why not? 18.22.48 # I didn't ask you to, did I? 18.23.15 # I didn't ask you to talk to me in here 18.23.17 # but you did 18.23.18 Join ender [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 18.23.26 # I don't really see the relevance in these comments 18.23.29 # who do you think you are? 18.23.51 # friendly greetings to you aswell 18.24.22 # hehe 18.24.37 # Mediapirate: You don't go around on IRC just randomly opening personal chat channels on people. 18.24.58 Join aneka [0] (n=kvirc@66.251.26.145) 18.25.11 # Oh really 18.25.15 # Now please close that channel. 18.25.16 # never heard that rule before 18.25.26 # i've closed it 18.25.28 # a long time ago 18.25.28 # even i know that 18.25.37 # wtf 18.25.40 # what are these random rules 18.25.42 # always ask 18.25.46 # not just this room 18.25.54 # SSnake: The issue is that writing embedded software is completely different to desktop apps... So yes, it's a lot of work to do it right. 18.25.55 # it's not "a rule". it's just a guideline on how to behave 18.26.21 # an unwritten rule? 18.26.29 # so to say, yes 18.26.38 # it isnt unwritten 18.26.40 # http://catb.org/jargon/html/N/netiquette.html 18.26.49 # yes, that's the word1 18.27.04 Join jfg [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 18.27.05 # i think my shift key is broken 18.27.08 Join Arathis2 [0] (n=doerk@p508A5DA2.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.27.16 # MINE'S NOT 18.27.22 # Looks like it is... 18.27.28 # * pondlife was breaking more netiquette 18.27.29 # :) 18.27.30 # this is getting off topic 18.28.31 # Horscht: Agreed. But it had to be said. 18.28.46 # Mediapirate: Never open personal chat channels with people again, unless they ask you to. 18.29.20 # Now I'm heading off for a bit. 18.29.28 # :-S 18.29.37 # this is the least friendly place i've ever bein 18.29.42 # been* 18.29.51 # I'm ashamed i've ever been here 18.29.52 Part Mediapirate ("Konversation terminated!") 18.30.12 # hit and run.. :-) 18.30.42 # * scorche|w sobs a bit into Domonoky's shoulder 18.34.40 Quit linuxstb ("Client Exiting") 18.34.46 # some people need to be smashed with a golfclub 18.35.13 # He had it easy too 18.35.24 Part ToHellWithGA ("Oh no!") 18.39.23 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 18.39.43 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.39.45 Quit aneka ("KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 18.40.32 # linuxstb: cool it works, I get a couple of warnings though 18.40.42 Quit jfg ("Leaving.") 18.42.06 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet19.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 18.44.46 Join quaal [0] (n=rodney@pool-96-228-165-104.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 18.45.02 # anyone experience rockbox making their ipod video not turn on anymore? 18.45.17 # nope 18.45.19 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.45.28 # boots fine, here 18.45.37 # well 18.45.40 # worked fine fro a while for me 18.45.49 # but now it wont turn on at all 18.45.51 # <2yrs old 18.46.01 # low battery? 18.46.09 # plugging in does nothing. 18.46.15 # when did you last update your bootloader? 18.46.29 # whenever i installed rockbox 18.46.32 # maybe a month ago 18.46.48 # have you already tried to reset it? 18.46.50 # ok, tried to reset it? 18.47.02 # isnt that like top+bottom button 18.47.16 # menu+select 18.47.38 # like 5sec hold 18.48.06 # oh shit 18.48.08 # its back on 18.48.19 # nice 18.48.23 # thanks 18.48.50 # please wait.. very low battery 18.49.01 # i dislike that the battery lasts for like.. an hour 18.49.05 # any fixes for that yet 18.49.28 # uhm... mine lasts... 17h 18.49.35 # 17 hours? 18.49.35 # if it lasts _that_ short then you have to replace it 18.49.38 # an ipod video? 18.49.44 # so, yes, theres a fix for you: new battery 18.49.51 # uhh 18.49.57 # yes, quaal. Ipod Video 80GB 18.50.05 # pretty sure replacing a nonreplaceable battery is >the cost of ipod 18.50.35 # its not that short with the itunes firmware 18.50.41 # if i recall correctly, non 80GB Videos have a slightly lower battery runtime, though 18.50.44 # also it was only charging to like 37% 18.50.47 # but surely, 1hour seems too low 18.51.20 # still sounds like your battery is dead 18.51.20 # i'm sure you find plenty replacement batteries on ebay, and lots of guides how to replace it in google. 18.51.20 # quaal: have you tested this with a proper battery bench? 18.52.48 # Zagor: I have some progress. By forcing the device to full speed (PORTSCX_PORT_FORCE_FULL_SPEED), I seem to get working transfers. After adding a send_csw(good) at the end or read10, linux manages to parse the partition table. After that something goes wrong. 18.56.35 Quit maddler ("connection reset by beer!") 18.57.24 Join maddler [0] (n=maddler@217-133-171-24.b2b.tiscali.it) 18.58.12 # scorche|w, battery bench? 18.58.38 Quit idnar (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.59.34 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 19.00.25 # charge your ipod, run the battery bench plugin and wait till the battery runs out 19.00.32 # with playback ofc 19.00.45 Join Addicted [0] (i=fnode@sh33p.g0.m33p.info) 19.03.37 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 19.03.59 # gevaerts: nice to hear that you have some progress :-) 19.04.45 Quit maddler (Remote closed the connection) 19.04.46 # gevaerts, LinusN: *afaik* fullspeed automatically limits the maximum transfer size to 64 bytes 19.04.52 # Yes. It's only full speed for now, but that's better than nothing 19.04.55 Join maddler [0] (n=maddler@cabbage.komputika.net) 19.04.56 # Only highspeed allows more than that 19.05.03 # amiconn: yes. That's one of the reasons I tried 19.05.22 # gevaerts: iirc you already reported yesterday that 64 byte tarnsfers do work 19.05.27 Join Mediapirate [0] (n=josh@client-86-0-121-32.nrth.adsl.virgin.net) 19.05.47 # I really wonder what special setup the OF does, as highspeed mode definitely works there 19.05.56 # amiconn: yes, on high speed. Unfortunately, you can't limit the packed size to 64 bytes then. 19.05.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.05.58 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 19.06.35 # LinusN: Btw, did you find some interesting new details in your OF disassembly work? 19.07.48 # Now it fails while reading the very last sector of the device. I wonder if the partition might be slightly faked (to support this 16MB fake partition the OF provides) 19.08.10 # Fake partition? 19.08.47 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@189-014-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 19.09.00 # amiconn: not really - i still don't know how to activate the serial port :-( 19.09.22 # hi linusN, i have news for you (good one) 19.09.25 # LinusN: Yeah, but maybe you found other things while digging for the serial 19.09.29 Quit maddler (Remote closed the connection) 19.09.33 Join maddler [0] (n=maddler@cabbage.komputika.net) 19.09.36 # SSnake: got it working? 19.09.55 # yes! It was a problem with a file in my directory 19.09.56 # (e.g. some usb init stuff) 19.10.12 # amiconn: i had to put the disassembly on hold - real life got in the way as usual :-/ 19.10.48 # I'm obviously not very good in following the general execution flow when RE'ing 19.10.50 # i will try to start a project with the real OF instead of the bootloader 19.11.01 # amiconn: I'm not sure if it's fake. Anyway I ust noticed an off-by-one bug in the size reporting. I'll try fixing that first 19.11.18 # I often search for low-level functions by digging for some know values (port addresses, magic values etc) 19.11.27 # amiconn: me too 19.11.49 # But that method doesn't help when you need to find the upper-level stuff ... :/ 19.13.31 # E.g. the serial setup might take place in a very different place in the code than the serial transfers 19.13.57 # Did you try follwing that serial rootshell code in the rom? 19.14.42 # amiconn: yes i have followed that code 19.14.58 # No setup found? 19.15.07 Join JdGordon|w [0] (i=836b004b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1e4b75729166effd) 19.15.20 # the problem is that the main menu of the serial debug code isn't called by any other code 19.15.42 # which leads me to believe that the code is either dead, or called by the OF 19.16.17 # hmm 19.16.55 # Maybe it's called via a jump table or another way of absolute addressing, and the code is copied to ram before execution? 19.17.16 # the code is copied to ram, but i have rebased it 19.17.21 Quit Mediapirate (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.17.40 # the serial init code is there too, but there is something missing 19.18.08 # there is probably an external buffer that needs to be enabled 19.18.39 # The PP502x most probably has some pin multiplexers 19.18.48 # maybe 19.20.34 Quit ch4os_ (Connection timed out) 19.20.38 Join kl33t0ris [0] (n=name@T710f.t.pppool.de) 19.20.53 # hi@all 19.21.33 # anybody there ? i have a question 19.21.47 # Just ask 19.21.49 # only 149 people in here ... 19.22.15 # k, thx...so my iPod "color" seems to have problems with 320 kbit mp3 files 19.22.21 Join Mediapirate [0] (n=josh@client-86-0-121-32.nrth.adsl.virgin.net) 19.22.28 # it starts skipping after a few secoinds of playback 19.22.43 # is this a known bug ? 19.22.58 # or is there just something wrong my ipod 19.23.01 # kl33t0ris: what build are you running? 19.23.02 # *with 19.23.14 # wait a sec 19.24.05 # im running r15542-071108 19.24.25 # wow, that's outdated. 19.24.29 # i know 19.24.44 # kl33t0ris: update to the current build 19.25.11 # * bluebrother was too slow with the usual answer(tm) ;-) 19.25.23 # i already tried the newest 19.25.45 # after that my ipod didnt get recognized as a usb drive anymore 19.25.54 # so i switched back 19.25.59 Join spolta [0] (n=tylerssc@d54242.tidewater.net) 19.26.07 # you need to boot into dick mode for that 19.26.16 # Dick mode. 19.26.17 # Nice. 19.26.18 # there are TONS of forum posts about that 19.26.20 # roflmao...dickmode :p 19.26.22 # errrr... 19.26.33 # I'm reinstalling Rockbox today. 19.26.33 # diskmode...right ? 19.26.41 # After being annoyed by IpodLinux. 19.26.42 # ... yes ... 19.26.47 # It's been a while. 19.26.58 # Are there any other applications for Rockbox than the ones they give out on the site? 19.27.04 # no 19.27.32 # sure...theres GPS and wireless LAN...but thats topsecret 19.27.54 # ... and the coffee maker plugin! 19.28.08 # damn forgot about that 19.28.21 # I already have the coffee maker plugin. 19.28.39 # What about the time travel plugin? 19.28.45 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 19.28.46 # The link to that one is dead. 19.28.50 # :'( 19.28.57 # well...ill update now...and if its screwed again ill go ninja on your asses :p 19.29.12 # well, then the only thing you need additionally is Rockbox Utility. 19.29.13 # OS everybody? 19.29.18 # I'm using Debian. 19.29.22 # it isnt screwed....read the past forum posts about that 19.29.36 # there is a forum ? 19.29.37 # spolta: what does that have to do with rockbox? 19.29.41 # wow 19.29.42 # spolta: Off topic! 19.29.48 # Just curiousity. 19.30.01 # There usually isn't O.T. things to say in IRC. 19.30.06 # All love here, all love. 19.30.08 # soz. 19.30.16 # spolta: well, we have guidelines here :) 19.30.17 # spolta: Well, this channel is strictly on-topic. 19.30.23 # Vista, XP and Debian....^_^...sry 19.30.24 # spolta: this is an ONTOPIC channel.. 19.30.25 # Alright. 19.30.27 # * bluebrother points to the channel topic 19.30.35 # and actually, most project oriented channels are strictly ontopic 19.30.47 # Not 420chan... 19.30.49 # Heh. 19.31.00 # that isnt project oriented 19.31.01 # The project of chan. 19.31.07 # And drugs. 19.31.13 # Sounds like a project to me. 19.31.16 # ANYWAY. 19.31.17 # spolta: Don't make me LART you. 19.31.18 # Sorry about that. 19.31.20 # K. 19.31.42 # what's LART? 19.31.43 # LART ? 19.32.05 # http://catb.org/jargon/html/L/LART.html 19.32.06 # your google-fu is lacking 19.32.14 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LART 19.32.36 # yeah, my google-fu skills left me when my wife left me 19.32.37 # Brilliant. 19.32.57 # Domonoky: why did you create that encoder cache? Is creating a new encoder object that expensive / slow? 19.33.11 Join raky [0] (n=raky@p57A61654.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.33.12 # So. What is there to do with Rockbox after I get sick of watching videos and using the default plugins? :/ 19.33.17 Join Lars_G [0] (n=Lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001) 19.33.21 # spolta, listen to music? 19.33.22 # Ok I just got my e260 today 19.33.22 # bluebrother: no, its there because they dont get deleted :-) 19.33.27 # play music? 19.33.33 # Play with the code? Make new plugins? 19.33.42 # it's a V1 e200, (not R) I toyed with the OF about 10 minutes, I liked it, I'm already installing rockbox :P lol 19.33.50 # It didn't last 10 friggin minutes 19.33.52 # Domonoky: ok. I'm currently changing the settings thingy of the encoder to not use the displayed string ;-) 19.33.54 # What is the code like? 19.33.57 # bluebrother: but maybe this could be changed, as they now take a QObject as parent, and not a QWidget anymore.. 19.34.00 # Haven't looked at anything like that. 19.34.14 # spolta: like a lot of other code...you can look at it online.. 19.34.17 # C. With some assembly here and there. 19.34.21 # Figured. 19.34.26 # Domonoky: bluebrother: what do you guys think about adding a config editor to rbutil? 19.34.38 # bluebrother: feel free to change anything, which could be improved :-) 19.34.55 # What plugins have you guys made? 19.35.01 # JdGordon|w: a config editor would be nice.. :-) go forward ..*hehe* 19.35.08 # JdGordon|w: well, I thought about that quite a whie ago. 19.35.11 Part Lars_G 19.35.53 # spolta: These: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginIndex 19.35.57 # Domonoky: you had Qt plugins running already, maybe add this as plugin? Or make it configurable using some description file (so we don't need to adjust rbutil itself if the settings change / get extended) 19.36.47 # I remember trying to use the GB emulator 19.36.54 # The FPS was slow. 19.36.59 # Too slow for megaman that is. 19.37.03 # Fine for Pokemon. :) 19.37.08 # how much fps did u get ? 19.37.16 # im getting 50 to 60+ 19.37.28 # the speed you get will also depend on your target 19.37.29 # I don't remember. 19.37.32 # depends on the target probably 19.37.35 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 19.37.47 # kleet0ris: Please speak in Standard English. No shorthanding. 19.38.02 # okay...sorry 19.38.02 # FPS is shorthanding then. 19.38.07 # ;) 19.38.07 # the gigabeat is significantly faster than, say, an ipod or sansa 19.38.09 # "you" instead of "u" 19.38.11 # fps is fine... 19.38.17 # I suppose. 19.38.26 # fps is fine, since it's a technical term 19.38.37 # Ah. 19.39.00 # Qt plugins arent too hard to use, but we would need to build a mechanism to selectivly load them... ie some framing code, and a decision what those rbuitl plugins are allowed to do.. 19.39.02 # But we don't want people coming in speaking like a 12-year old fresh off AOL. 19.39.07 # spolta: sorry for asking, but what is your purpose for being here?...many of your questions seem to be socially oriented, but this isnt quite a social channel 19.39.20 # I'm new, give me a break. 19.39.21 # wow...scrolling seems to be much faster in the current build 19.39.24 # I'll have questions. 19.39.40 # * bluebrother remembers the aoluser translation for Rockbox ;-) 19.39.54 # spolta, if you haven't read the channel guidelines linked in the topic, please do so 19.40.30 # Domonoky: well, my idea was to have plugins access the current user settings, write to the target and get a tab or an own window launched by a tab. 19.41.10 Part pondlife 19.41.35 Quit Mediapirate (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.41.44 Join kl33toris [0] (n=name@L93cb.l.pppool.de) 19.43.07 # Domonoky: btw, I had the impression that unchecking "run recursive" in the talk window doesn't have any effect. 19.43.30 # bluebrother: the settings for the plugins are now a bit more difficult, as we now have the rbsettings class... (but maybe we could add more generic settings functions to the rbsettings class.. 19.44.00 # * Domonoky checks the code for the recursive thing.. 19.44.25 # hmm, we could also just add the editor to another tab. 19.44.51 # but we should try to make a new release first. 19.45.26 # yes, we should really try to make a new release.. (maybe without the cli interface) 19.46.02 Join Mikerman [0] (n=ce126f05@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7f880652e571545d) 19.46.16 # the cli version should really get 1.1 19.48.20 # * kl33toris is saying "Thank you" to everyone 19.48.26 # Hey, folks. Was going to try an create a Wiki page on converting PDFs for use under Rockbox (a user had posted a tutorial in the forums, and I was going to get it into the Wiki). Could I be granted Wiki write permission? 19.49.03 Part spolta 19.49.12 # Mikerman: What's your wiki name? 19.49.20 # MikeSobel 19.49.37 # Mikerman: Hang out a sec whilst I add you. 19.50.05 # bluebrother: it seams the recursiv option got lost in the last rework/bugfix of the talkfile generation.. :-) 19.50.16 # Mikerman: Seems you're already added. 19.51.38 # Thanks--maybe I goofed. I can edit the Wiki, but when I tried to start a new page a few minutes ago, I got an access denied or such. Maybe it's my error (never started a Wiki page before). 19.52.04 # i just installed new build on c250 and i just get the sandisk logo flashing when i turn it on 19.52.57 # i guess i should check out what i did before i ask for help 19.53.48 # magenpie: My c240 flashes the SanDisk logo twice, then Rockbox comes up about 1 second after the second flash. 19.54.17 Join perrikwp [0] (i=982165ed@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b4134e169001bf3b) 19.54.44 # that's what it was doing before i installed a few minutes ago 19.55.40 Join conando [0] (i=Soeren@dslb-084-060-149-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.56.07 # Now how is the logo coming up? 19.56.13 # the new directory is called .rockbox(4) - could that be a problem? 19.56.23 # yep. 19.56.28 # ok 19.56.32 # i'll rename 19.56.35 # ty 19.56.49 # the folder needs to be called ".rockbox" (without the quotes of course) 19.57.01 # right 19.57.11 Part LinusN 19.58.42 Part SSnake 20.00.12 Quit kl33t0ris (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.01.21 # what the... 20.02.20 Quit kl33toris ("get satisfied! :: (Gamers.IRC) ::") 20.04.52 # i can't seem to access it to change name 20.05.32 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.05.44 # it's /dev/sda1 /media/Sansa c250 20.06.02 # magenpie: Turn on hidden file view. 20.06.29 Join p3tur [0] (n=petur@d54C2B243.access.telenet.be) 20.06.30 Quit Axio () 20.07.11 # ok 20.10.07 # Do you see the folder now? 20.11.26 # yes, i see it 20.11.31 # renaming now 20.19.46 Quit Mikerman ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.25.17 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 20.26.02 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.31.35 Join x1jmp [0] (n=x1jmp@frbg-4dbc7682.pool.einsundeins.de) 20.34.12 # ok, i successfully renamed the rockbox directory 20.34.37 # but i lost the Music folder - it doesn't show in rb but it's there 20.35.11 # maybe rebuild database? 20.35.26 # magenpie: have you enabled the "show all files" option? 20.35.34 # yes 20.35.39 # rebooting 20.35.51 # No need to reboot... 20.37.21 # ah, there it is...i had show all files but i didn't realize i needed to do that again...but of course all the prior settings were lost 20.37.34 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 20.39.59 # Nico_P: minor niggle with album art -- if maxwidth and maxheight are specified it only looks for covers with generic names or with exactly that size named 20.40.10 # Nico_P: how hard would it be to search for the largest sized cover <= the specified size? 20.41.13 # we'd have to get a list of all files in the dirs where we look, and search that list for the best possible match 20.41.31 # so not *that* hard, but still quite a lot of overhead compared to the current method 20.42.07 # Especially if it's a dir with many files (or .rockbox/albumart/) 20.43.09 # hmm... when no size is specified it only looks for generically named ones? 20.45.20 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.45.53 # yes 20.46.35 # I see. 20.50.39 # What do you think about the latest bmp resize patch developement? Especially the latest version with MoB 20.51.45 # I think that when it's in we'll definitely want to have some kind of search algo. to find largest < max in directories. 20.52.15 # * lostlogic looks at patch 20.52.17 # kugel: just looked at it and I don't see why he called it MoB 20.53.27 # oh actually I take back what I said 20.54.01 # If I'm not wrong, now the resized bmp is stored in the buffer, previously the bmp was resized in another way 20.55.47 # And when doing searches, trying to keep things efficient. (Current search really isn't very efficient, given how a FAT file is located...) 20.56.42 # yeah, that's the tough part.. I mean it's easy to filter if we get a directory listing, but that seems crappy. 20.57.42 # Wouldn't you just store the image in the original size (as large as possible) ? 20.58.09 # I thought the whole point of resize was to not have multiple copies... 20.58.19 # linuxstb: yeah, you're right. 20.58.26 # Nico_P: I wonder why he #ifdef'ed LCD_COLOR targets out, while you didn't in your last sync of FS#8308 20.58.29 # Isn't the scaler of the fast but ugly kind though? 20.58.43 # (Haven't checked the patch, I must admit. :) ) 20.58.52 # I think the new smooth one is supposed to be decent, but I'm not positive on that 20.59.07 # yeah, there's a smooth version 20.59.47 # I guess that should be criteria for committing - if it's good enough so that people can just store one copy of the bitmap, then commit... 20.59.48 Quit JdGordon|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20.59.54 Join flensgard [0] (n=flensgar@ip-148-17.travedsl.de) 21.00.20 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.00.42 Join JdGordon|w [0] (i=836b004b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2c7e9371ea34ac6d) 21.00.43 # hmm, isn't it possible to use a cue/mp3 combination by playing the .cue file? 21.01.15 # iirc you need to play the mp3 and the cue gets loaded by the cuesheet handling 21.01.22 Quit flensgard ("Verlassend") 21.01.25 # that means i can't use cue/mp3 combos that don't share the same file name at all in rockbox... 21.01.26 # Isn't FS#8308 supposed to be used in plugins only? I mean, it's all in apps/plugins 21.01.38 # IIRC you have to play the mp3 (and need cuefile support enabtled) 21.01.45 # *enabled 21.01.47 # If yes, smooth album art resizes would require plugin code 21.02.05 # preglow: Rename it? 21.02.14 # linuxstb: i don't see why that is necessary 21.02.31 # no other part of rockbox requires me to rename my files 21.02.53 # The alternative is nasty - it would make .cue files a valid music filetype, so both the .cue and .mp3 get added to the playlist. 21.03.06 # kugel: yeah, 8308 is supposed to be for plugins. it can be moved easily, but 5697 doesn't do it very well 21.03.27 # linuxstb: i believe that is how all other music players does it, yes... 21.03.34 # preglow: it was discussed in length before I committed cue support 21.03.44 # It was just much cleaner to make the .cue file "metadata about the .mp3", rather than the other way round. 21.03.44 # preglow: Don't you need your album arts? 21.03.51 # +to renamo 21.04.01 # kugel: i don't use album art 21.04.28 # linuxstb: with the consequence that i now have to rename files to use them with rockbox, doesn't sound very clean to me 21.04.34 # But if, you wouldn't only need to rename, but also to convert it for suiting rockbox 21.04.42 # hmm, I think that we need to do something more intrusive with the bitmap resize feature to make it 'safe' 21.04.46 # kugel: oh, sure, but album art isn't music 21.04.51 # preglow: Then feel free to implement it differently... 21.04.57 # preglow: neither are .cue files 21.05.03 # preglow: the cue itself isn't music either :) 21.05.05 # rasher: well, that's splitting hairs a bit 21.05.20 # they enable me to play my music better 21.05.24 # album art is eye candy 21.05.45 # * bluebrother never understood the use of cue anyway 21.05.53 # preglow: But I agree with you in principle, it's just that in practice it doesn't fit in with Rockbox. 21.06.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.06.12 # linuxstb: why do we do this differently? all other music players seem comfortable with the fact that the mp3 gets included as well when you just insert a dir 21.06.14 # preglow: I was of your opinion at first 21.06.31 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 21.06.37 # preglow: the players I've seen require the cue and the mp3 to have the same name 21.06.44 # Couldn't you make a .cue "viewer" plugin that adds the file in there to the current playlist? 21.07.00 # Which would then in turn load the .cue... 21.07.08 # rasher: that would work, yeah 21.07.16 # The Aristocrats! 21.07.16 # but then i lose the cue viewer 21.07.30 # preglow: Then I would call them broken. 21.07.43 # (not that Rockbox is perfect, just broken differently...) 21.07.47 # hm 21.07.50 # well, i'd call requiring me to rename my files broken 21.07.51 # that's for sure 21.08.01 # it appears that i've now got 96% - 9hours of battery 21.08.06 # and its growing 21.08.12 # when disconnected. 21.08.21 # preglow: But seriously, is it a problem? Would you prefer that playing a directory of cue/mp3 files duplicates them all? 21.08.32 # preglow: it has become common practice to name the cue and the mp3 the same 21.08.40 # linuxstb: yup, gladly, happens to me all the time with foobar 21.08.49 Quit nicktastique ("Leaving") 21.08.52 # Imo, cue sheets are a broken concept in the first place, and one can't expect rockbox to fix that 21.08.58 # Nico_P: depends where you look 21.08.59 # preglow: It would annoy me no end. 21.09.01 # Nico_P: I think it's a better idea to have the correct size for the bitmap allocated on the buffer the first time, with some kind of get_buffersize() call rather than allocating it based on the filesize, how do you feel about that? 21.09.16 # Nico_P: then load the file bitmap into a single static temporary buffer an resize to the filebuffer 21.09.17 # linuxstb: anyway, why not just not load .cue when building play lists? 21.09.28 # that way we could more easily make the bitmap reading asynchronous like other types instead of sync. 21.09.44 # preglow: Then when do you load it? 21.10.17 # i guess my policy of never using the "insert" commands make me see things somewhat differently than most... 21.10.30 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e181183057.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.10.30 # lostlogic: I haven't looked at the patch long enough, but the static buffer seems to be the WPS imgae buffer in the current state 21.11.08 # Nico_P: yeah, but it's used as the resize target and then recopied back to the filebuffer. 21.11.27 # true, that's not good 21.11.43 # it's easy to know how much buffer space will be required 21.12.08 # lostlogic: want to whip something up? I'm cooking dinner for myself right now 21.12.13 # yeah, exactly -- just needs a short calculation and we'd need to put a function in 21.12.23 # which maybe one day could be used for ealier stripoping of trailing tags 21.12.28 # haha, can't, at work 21.12.30 # would belong to amazon if I did :) 21.14.13 # but, no, i've yet to find a single cue file album that plays out of the box in rockbox 21.14.16 # which is kind of annoying 21.14.48 # Because of the name, or other issues? 21.14.56 # name 21.15.00 # they work fine with that out of the deal 21.15.07 # surprisingly good, as a matter of fact 21.15.23 # I really don't see the problem - I would probably want to rename anyway, to keep things tidy. 21.15.32 # i don't see anything tidy about it 21.15.41 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.15.46 # "tidy" to me is downloading and listening 21.16.04 # * amiconn would call that messy ... 21.16.04 # I always tidy things I download - fixing tags, using my own naming conventions etc. 21.16.25 # Me too 21.16.32 # i tidy stuff i create myself, i have long since given up tidying other people's stuff 21.16.35 # same here 21.16.35 # so now i don't touch it at all 21.17.18 # amiconn: btw, LinusN said he was fine with you sending me his video... do you think you could do that? 21.18.13 # Zagor: I updated the patch in FS#8562. I can mount the device in full speed (read-only), but it fails once I try to do anything with it. The problem is that linux tries to read too much at once, and I'm not really sure how to handle that (returning an error doesn't work, and neither does just returning what we have) 21.18.47 # What do you mean by "too much" ? 21.19.20 # linuxstb: the controller on the sansa can handle 16k transfers, while linux asks for 64k of data at once 21.20.22 # wtf 21.20.30 # suddenly the backlight went on on my h120 21.20.35 # then didn't turn off until i touched a key 21.21.02 # preglow: it wanted you to touch it 21.21.10 # * JdGordon|w 's sansa has done that before also 21.21.28 # rasher: well, i'll just take that as proof it's got a soul then 21.21.33 # i'll have to be careful what i do in front of it 21.21.42 # it doesn't have a soul 21.21.46 # it's possessed 21.21.58 # its a bit hard to be possessed without a soul 21.22.03 # as long as it doesn't start twisting and vomiting i'm ok with that 21.22.43 # no, it's actually not. Souls do not exist. They were made up by scientology 21.23.28 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.23.31 # it was touched by His Noodly Appendage! 21.26.08 Quit FOAD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.26.27 # gevaerts: If you use dd to try and read data (less than 16KB), does the kernel still do a 64KB read? 21.26.46 # linuxstb: yes. 21.27.13 # linuxstb: well, not always a 64k read, but it seems to do some kind of readahead 21.27.26 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m236.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 21.28.17 # gevaerts: do you know how the OF handles this? (if it might be helpful) 21.28.29 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.30.09 # Nico_P: no idea. I'll try to find out (maybe not today, I don't have a real usb tracer here, and I find the usbmon output hard to read) 21.30.10 # gevaerts: Is the "lsusb -v" output the same in Rockbox and the OF? 21.34.45 # linuxstb: the differences don't look significant to me 21.38.59 # The OF apparently manages to respond with all requested data, but I'm not sure if it is in one USB transfer or not (I can't figure this out from the usbmon output in wireshark). I suspect that it is one transfer, because I tried multiple transfers and that didn't work. So now we have to find out how to do transfers with more than 16k. 21.39.45 # 16k should be enough for everybody 21.39.48 # we support .sid now, after all :) 21.41.36 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 21.41.47 # Maybe chaining transfer descriptors does what we want 21.41.58 Quit FOAD_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.47.45 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.48.24 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust498.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.50.53 Join FOAD__ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.50.53 Quit FOAD_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.50.56 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 21.53.39 Nick Arathis2 is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A5DA2.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.53.51 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 21.55.09 Nick FOAD__ is now known as FOAD_ (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.57.29 Join SacredTerror [0] (n=Miranda@pool-71-190-214-151.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) 22.04.41 Quit desowin () 22.05.17 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.05.18 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 22.05.23 # amiconn: seen my question? 22.06.48 # rasher: I've just noticed your missing AA logging patch (FS#8479) - do you still think it's a good idea (better than a PC-side script)? 22.09.05 # linuxstb: Probably not, to be honest, the script would just have to understand all sorts of metadata to be "complete" 22.09.37 # Ah yes, I forgot Rockbox searched based on tags... 22.09.51 # What about a plugin? 22.10.08 # Probably more likely to work 22.10.16 # a plugin sounds like a good idea, yes 22.10.25 # Or you could base it on the db and the pythontagdb thing 22.11.09 # Thinking about it, maybe a plugin would be helpful to debug metadata problems in general. 22.11.18 # (as in files that prevent the db from building) 22.12.30 # gevaerts: excellent progress! 22.13.19 # Zagor: just these small remaining details... 22.13.27 # * scorche|w spies a Zagor 22.13.49 # gevaerts: yeah well it's still a great step forward 22.14.19 # Zagor: think we could work an implementation of http://svnlogbrowser.org/ into the site?...looks pretty nice and the creator is a rockboxer :) 22.14.31 Part lids 22.14.45 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.15.57 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 22.16.57 # scorche|w: Yeah I suppose we could 22.17.13 Quit hcs ("Leaving.") 22.17.29 # get rid of those massive "since ever" links too :) 22.17.40 # scorche|w: who's the author? 22.18.07 # Nico_P: a friend of mine....rockboxer as in user 22.18.26 # ah right 22.18.31 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.19.59 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.20.25 # scorche|w: It displays a lot of nice info, but I don't like the style/layout of the pages... Is it themable? 22.26.12 # linuxstb: not too advanced, apaprently, but there are basic templates 22.27.33 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.27.35 # it uses the same template code as phpbb uses (or used to use...not sure) 22.27.47 # what did you want to change specifically? 22.28.45 # http://svn.svnlogbrowser.org/trunk/frontend/index.tpl 22.30.12 # I guess I'm just used to the Rockbox presentation of changes - the four columns (when, who, where, what), and find it harder to follow the svnlogbrowser presentation. 22.30.17 # * Nico_P just added smooth scaling to the core and there is a rather massive binsize hit: almost 4.5K 22.31.10 # oh noes! 22.31.13 # ouch. 22.31.24 # Does it have any other uses, apart from AA? 22.31.25 # amiconn: regarding the remote peakmeters, I added a patch to 8514. Care to comment? 22.31.32 # linuxstb: I agree with you. but svnlogbrowser has some nifty interactive features such as looking at all commits from specific people etc. 22.31.47 # linuxstb: it can be used in sliding_puzzle 22.31.49 # and search 22.31.52 # I wouldn't want to loose the commit summary on the front page 22.31.57 # Zagor: Yes, that's what I mean - I want the Rockbox layout and those features... 22.32.05 # bluebrother: no, me neither 22.32.22 # but it would be a nice addon 22.32.45 # Nico_P: But that's a plugin, so no reason to add it to the core... 22.32.50 # * Nico_P wants to see rev numbers on the front page, and not just in the link targets 22.33.10 # linuxstb: yeah, the only reason to add it to the core would be AA 22.33.15 # Nico_P: Do you have a patch? 22.33.21 # yes 22.34.01 Join tierra [0] (n=tierra@ibaku.net) 22.34.55 # linuxstb: http://pastebin.ca/894333 22.37.33 # It looks like it could be size-optimised quite a lot - there's a lot of duplicated code there... 22.38.19 # Also, do we need both up and down scaling? 22.39.01 # I think so 22.39.57 # I've never found cover-art smaller than the size I would want to use it at - 500x500 seems to be more or less standard. 22.40.37 # aren't the vertical and horizontal code paths special cases of the vert/horiz one? 22.43.25 # linuxstb: I think it's better to allow people to use the files they already have 22.45.17 # if you download AA from amazon (like amarok does) you can get quite small images. 22.45.58 # if you already have to upscale for a album art size of say 100x100 I wouldn't try to get a better picture anyways 22.46.09 # eh.. *would 22.46.19 # * bluebrother does too 22.46.23 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 3.0b3pre/2008020104]") 22.46.36 Join _StefaN^ [0] (i=StefaN@ip-193-151-114-233.mnc.pl) 22.46.47 # but I guess quite some people would be fine with small images and complain if they don't get upscaled 22.47.50 # <_StefaN^> hi 22.48.11 # <_StefaN^> I have a question regarding x5l rockbox build 22.48.28 # <_StefaN^> anyone around I could direct this question to? :) 22.48.36 # _StefaN^: just ask 22.48.42 # I prepared a few 40x40 cover.bmps to play with album art in my c200 WPS, which get upscaled in sliding_puzzle and so blurry that they are pretty much unusable 22.48.53 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9og.cable.mindspring.com) 22.49.12 # <_StefaN^> ok its about Clix theme for X5 22.49.14 # <_StefaN^> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIaudioX5#clix 22.49.16 # <_StefaN^> this one 22.49.45 # <_StefaN^> I downloaded the required build from http://rockbox.webhop.org/ and the theme (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIaudioX5/Clix.zip) 22.50.05 # that would be an unsupported build then... 22.50.05 # <_StefaN^> but when I load it on my x5 it doesnt look anywhere near like it should :( 22.50.25 # <_StefaN^> hmm, your right 22.50.36 # <_StefaN^> sorry, forgot it was a custom build 22.50.41 # <_StefaN^> my bad 22.51.03 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.51.09 # has anyone seen this ZIF to 1.8" IDE adapter? http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10887 22.51.13 # <_StefaN^> but is there a way to load that theme on the current, official rockbox build? 22.51.29 # _StefaN^: try it out 22.51.42 # or adapt the wps file as necessary 22.52.30 # <_StefaN^> most of those themes have 'Themes require updates with latest builds!! See album art page for instructions.' 22.53.01 # <_StefaN^> I've tried that art page but I dont even know what I'm looking for (as funny as it may sound) 22.53.25 # Zagor: we could always have it as an additional page rather than replacing the current method immediately...then when someone bothers to make it look a bit more like our style we could do a quick change 22.55.11 Join Davide-NYC_ [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9og.cable.mindspring.com) 22.55.11 Quit Davide-NYC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.55.12 Nick Davide-NYC_ is now known as Davide-NYC (n=chatzill@user-0cev9og.cable.mindspring.com) 22.55.19 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 22.56.33 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 23.00.06 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 23.02.37 # seems storebror has a full disk 23.03.28 # * p3tur pings Bagder 23.03.30 # oops 23.06.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.06.41 Join cg [0] (n=cromos@88.193.143.80) 23.08.11 # wouldn't that be Zagor :) 23.08.37 # is it? I keep forgetting the names ;) 23.09.34 # no, storebror is mine 23.09.44 # as I am storebror to Zagor 23.10.27 # oh, I always thought it was the other way round (but never knew numbers) 23.10.42 # sorry :) 23.10.45 # hehe 23.10.54 Quit Davide-NYC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.11.34 # need more build servers? i would have one here... 23.11.55 # we always need more! 23.13.03 # okay, i would have everything else setup, except missing acbuild.pl and keyfile 23.13.34 Quit _StefaN^ ("Its all about the games...") 23.13.44 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/acbuild.txt http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/rbclient-authorized_keys2 23.14.11 # you need to rename the script, set execution rights and very the PATH and make -j options within it 23.14.19 # verify even 23.14.44 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.16.39 Quit bertrik ("bye") 23.18.35 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 23.20.20 Quit Siku () 23.20.42 # Bagder: done. the ssh file should be ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ? 23.21.23 # ~rbclient/.ssh/authorized_keys2 23.21.38 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 23.21.50 # build server will connect from 91.191.140.131 23.21.56 # I've never seen authorized_keys2 23.22.02 # Bagder: okay 23.22.14 # rasher: then look now ;-) 23.22.58 # "The authorized_keys2 file has been deprecated since the OpenSSH 3.0 release (2001)." 23.23.01 # ;-) 23.23.08 # I'm stuck in the dark ages 23.23.40 # Bagder: the host is jakorasia.info 23.24.13 # cg: all compilers and sdl installed? 23.24.18 # yup 23.24.28 Quit stewball`sleep (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.24.31 # no zip though... 23.25.27 # Bagder: now has zip 23.25.33 # goodie 23.26.07 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.26.17 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.26.54 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.26.59 # server added! 23.27.25 # yay :) 23.27.31 # thanks 23.28.04 # now somebody commit something :) 23.29.53 # * Bagder also added one of JdGordon's machines 23.30.35 # Is anything known about the Rockchip CPUs? 23.31.02 # I don't think a lot is known, no 23.31.40 # I think markun tried to find some info, but I could be confusing that 23.31.54 # * linuxstb_ found the forum thread 23.34.21 Quit JdGordon|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.45.20 Join carlosp [0] (n=525351c7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c4814c4807be112c) 23.45.29 # hey guys 23.45.48 # a little qustion about rockbox 23.46.23 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 23.46.28 # are there any plans to change the database features of rockbox, something more ipod like and real "auto update" funktion 23.47.08 Quit n1s () 23.47.25 Join vorwarts [0] (n=manchine@78.147.146.242) 23.47.36 # define 'ipod like' carlosp 23.48.25 # the irony is the iPod itself doesn't update its database - it uses the PC side program iTunes to do the database building and updating. 23.49.04 # * linuxstb wonders what's wrong with Rockbox's auto-update function 23.49.12 # i lraedy know that toshiba gigabeat u-202 is not currently supported by rockbox. just checking if anyone here has bought this crap and can manage to run it somehow through virtualization. thanks 23.49.43 Join Lars_G [0] (n=Lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001) 23.49.55 Quit qweru ("moo") 23.50.23 # vorwarts: well, this is an on-topic channel.. 23.50.31 # I'm (La)TeX dissabled... what do I need to have around to be able to build the pdf manuals? if you speak it in ubuntuese-debs much better 23.50.43 # well usually, i have auto update enabled, it does not really update 23.51.02 # Lars_G: already tried http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main//ManualHowto ? 23.51.14 # pixelma: Nope. and thanks 23.51.39 # Lars_G: installing texlive should do, afaik 23.52.01 # carlosp - in what way does it not really upadte 23.52.10 # ^update. Have you found a bug? 23.52.23 # the database does not show the new songs which are added 23.52.38 # it does not delete the ones i have already removed 23.52.46 # preglow, Lars_G: that page mentions the old names of the packages but I've been told you'll get automatically linked 23.52.48 # * BigBambi still wonders what "ipod like" means 23.52.59 # carlosp: Have you read this section of the manual? http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-450004.2.2 23.53.17 # and it shows no songs in menu points like "most recent" or "forgetten favs" and so on 23.53.40 # carlosp - in particular the part that says "Note: The Auto Update will only check for deleted files if the Directory Cache (Settings -> General Settings -> System -> Disk -> Directory Cache) is enabled. Update now includes that check whether dircache has been enabled or not. " 23.53.48 # * scorche|w discovers that work has now blocked download.rockbox.org 23.53.59 # pixelma: looks like it, for now, but that should be changed, of course 23.54.09 # * preglow can't be bothered to do so now 23.54.30 # Plus you need to restart the device to reload the database once you've done changes 23.54.31 Quit Rob222241 () 23.54.46 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B0DA88.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.54.57 # oh ok :) 23.55.01 # i will check now 23.55.01 # ^_cleanly_ restart (not reset with MENU+SELECT) 23.55.20 # "most recent" and the like only work with "gather runtime data" enabled 23.55.38 # * linuxstb wonders if more of these options should be enabled by default 23.55.50 # Well there are two things of the sansa I dislike but for the rest it's a great device 23.55.51 # * preglow too 23.56.09 # stripwax: I thought that limitation was removed? 23.56.10 # linuxstb: I always saw their off state as remmants from the beta days of the database 23.56.26 # rasher - if that's true then the manual is wrong 23.56.31 # "off by default" seems to be how all new features are implemented... 23.56.43 # linuxstb: Yes but this one lingered 23.56.54 # That's my point - they all linger. 23.56.58 # stripwax: wouldn 23.57.02 # ? 23.57.06 # 't make me wonder 23.57.09 # i just can't figure out how to get the voice recording to work...i was helped this morning and got it once 23.57.27 # (that the manual is wrong/outdated) 23.57.33 # It also seem odd to me that you can turn runtimedb on and off.. seems like something that should just be on, always 23.57.47 # The fact that it's a separate system shouldn't matter to the user 23.58.08 # Presumably there's some cost to enabling it? 23.58.08 # scorche|w: just checking if anyone could point me out some sort of workaround. all in all, rockbox is the only linux project building drivers for gigabeat models 23.58.33 # Rockbox isn't a linux project...