--- Log for 09.02.108 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.19 # rasher: I'm beginning to suspect that this is actually another symptom of the same problem that prevents high speed from working 00.01.03 # gevaerts: Yikes 00.01.31 Quit BigBambi ("Please insert girder") 00.02.36 Quit petur ("gonne") 00.02.39 # rasher: it can't be incomplete transfers, since we use 64 byte packets and the problem we see happens every 32 bytes 00.02.55 # That sounds reasonable enough 00.03.07 # Not that I have any idea how USB works, but yes 00.03.09 # That means it happens between the wire and our side of the controller 00.03.09 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 00.03.29 # So some sort of incorrect controller setup or what? 00.03.46 # yes 00.07.40 # Just a wild idea : maybe RAM access is too slow ? Is that clocked proportionally to the CPU clock ? 00.08.15 # if it is.. calling cpu_boost() before you start the usb stuff might fix it 00.08.53 # IN fact, manually boosting (through the debug screen) should fix it as well in that case? 00.09.02 # yes 00.10.25 Join Masca [0] (n=Masca@131.178.167.83) 00.11.16 # No, that's not it. 00.11.30 # :( 00.11.43 # It would have been an easy solution 00.12.13 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.12.13 Nick robin0800_ is now known as robin0800 (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust498.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.12.22 # Actually I'm completely failing to mount the thing when running at 80mhz 00.12.41 # I get loads of usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 00.12.50 # gevaerts: How does the controller communicate with the cpu and ram? 00.13.02 # rasher: is it plugged in properly ? 00.13.03 # Btw, 32 byte is the cache line length iirc 00.13.19 # gevaerts: Pretty sure it is, yes 00.13.33 Part Masca ("Leaving") 00.14.35 # amiconn: the controller knows real addresses, so it should read/write directly to RAM. 00.15.19 # Okay, so the controller does dma. But the ata transfers go through the cpu. 00.16.04 # And writing to the usb disk means the controller writes to ram, and the cpu reads it 00.16.11 # hmmm 00.16.18 # amiconn: yes, but ata shouldn't matter. I checked the data before it goes to disk 00.16.28 # amiconn: so it might be a cache issue after all 00.17.32 # but it shouldn't be. All accesses go through UNCACHED_ADDR 00.18.15 # We can't be 100% sure about UNCACHED_ADDR. At least there could be still some write buffer active somewhere 00.18.44 # But I'd expect a write buffer to cause problems when sending data via usb (i.e. reading from pc) that in the other direction 00.19.06 # The corruption we're seeing is a bit too regular IMO for that to be the problem 00.19.37 # putting the data structures into iram would test if it's a cache problem, wouldn't it? 00.20.13 # How much iram can we use for it ? 00.20.28 # gevaerts: any idea why the transfer seems to get cut off at 77 bytes (?!) 00.20.46 # rasher: 77 bytes ? I haven't seen that yet 00.20.48 # At least that's what I got at http://pastebin.ca/896483 if I can count 00.21.41 # 0x57 == 87 00.21.50 # I was about to say.. 00.22.03 # gevaerts: You should be able to use the 48KB of IRAM reserved for codecs/plugins. 00.22.09 # Not that 87 makes any more sense 00.22.32 # linuxstb_: how do I do this ? 00.23.01 # Didn't Zagor try to use IRAM already? 00.24.38 # Depending on how much iram is needed, the test would probably not need special magic 00.24.39 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20071116#23:07:01 00.24.55 # Though I suppose he might have had other bugs interfering 00.25.17 # gevaerts: As amiconn said, it depends how much IRAM you need? 00.25.50 # I mean not using special tricks, but simply allocating a buffer in iram 00.26.34 # linuxstb_: I'd need at least 32k to do a "real" test. 16k will work. 00.27.18 # rasher: I read that as pure perfomance, as in speed. That 00.27.30 # hmm 00.27.37 # gevaerts: You're right, I'm confused 00.27.38 # is not really what we're looking at now. 00.28.00 # 8KB iram should be available on all PP targets in the core without special measures 00.28.21 # amiconn: OK, let's start with that. How do I access it ? 00.28.40 # Just include IBSS_ATTR in your buffer declaration 00.29.59 # You can check the .map file to see how much iram is left for your target 00.30.40 # when I search for rockbox compatable ipods on ebay, what should I search for? 00.30.48 # you have to be careful with IBSS_ATTR since it zeroes all buffers on rockbox startup 00.31.03 # /apps/rockbox.map -> search for "stackend = ." and check the address in front of that 00.31.03 Join kfazz [0] (n=ken@76-203-137-185.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) 00.31.07 # that was a problem austriancoder had while he was working on USB 00.31.26 # *all* bss space is zeroed at rockbox startup 00.31.29 # hmm, there are some weird spurios butten events from remote control in bootloader for a few seconds after plugging in the remote 00.31.38 # then those events gone 00.31.52 # when I search for rockbox compatable ipods on ebay, what should I search for? 00.31.52 # Not only ibss. That's something gcc expects - it puts zero initialised data into bss by default 00.32.14 # amiconn: It compiles with 8192, so I'll try that. I'll have to tell the linux kernel to lower its limit though 00.32.56 Quit JdGordon|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.33.05 # yeah, and that caused problems for austriancoder because he used IBSS_ATTR for all the descriptors and they ended up getting zeroed 00.33.46 # If you checked the address I told you, you can calculate how much iram is left (for the core). There are 96KB of IRAM on all PP502x chips (technically the PP5022 and 5024 have 128KB, but we don't handle that yet), split evenly between core and plugins/codecs 00.33.53 # COuld someone help me with looking for Ipods on Ebay? I don't know what to search for. 00.34.06 # So the core has 48KB of iram available, hence the end address must be <= 0x4000c000 00.34.15 Quit ol_schoola () 00.35.26 # asdrubal: Check the BuyersGuide wiki - basically you want anything that is not a Classic iirc 00.35.41 # or the frontpage ;) 00.35.44 # And neither a Nano 2nd gen or 3rd gen 00.35.53 # amiconn: good catch 00.36.06 # or Touch 00.36.18 # rasher: so any ipod video will work? 00.36.39 # asdrubal: As long as it's correctly labelled, yes 00.36.47 # what do you mean correctly labeled 00.36.54 # asdrubal: Try "ipod 5th generation" 00.37.30 # asdrubal: If the seller has not written the wrong name, but it's unlikely I'd say 00.38.03 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 00.38.56 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 00.39.32 # especially on the german ebay I have found several "ipod classic" named "ipod video" 00.40.11 # Rasher: I don't know about buying ipods on Ebay... their batteries are more than likely drained 00.40.17 # that's why people sell them on ebay 00.40.44 # I bouht one, 3 weeks ago, > 1 year old, battery as good as new 00.41.29 # considering that rockbox doesn't do xvid/divx/h264 I guess I don't need ipod video 00.41.38 Quit rocko (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.41.41 # all you have to do, is make sure that it's an ipod video, not an ipod classic, touch, or nano 2nd or 3rd gen 00.41.55 # and that the condition is good 00.42.08 # Horscht, how much did you pay? 00.42.22 # 199€ for a 80GB model 00.42.47 # i only bought it because it was a "buy now" 00.43.02 # how do i use sansapatcher to install a custom bootloader.bin file? 00.43.06 # I don't usualy do auctions... 00.43.07 # holy crap that's alot of dough 00.43.38 # well, classic 80GB is also 250€+ 00.44.08 # I want a sansa c240... and then get a 32GB micro SD when they get cheap in a couple years :) 00.44.10 # so i rather bought a video 80GB for slightly less at a very good condition 00.44.42 # nvm figured it out. 00.44.51 # kfazz: "sansapatcher -a bootloader.mi4" 00.45.18 # i did ./sansapatcher -bl bootloader.bin 00.45.26 # should i have used the mi4? 00.46.10 # bl is for the Sansa bootloader. 00.46.28 # Not the Rockbox one. 00.46.34 # oops : ) 00.46.53 # oh well, it's my test sansa anyways 00.47.48 # so the bootloader build left me with bootloader.bin and bootloader.elf 00.48.00 # whre do i find/create the mi4? 00.48.02 # No "PP5022.mi4" ? 00.48.10 Quit Domonoky ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.48.13 Quit ender` (" The two aspiring triangle peaks arching into an abstracted M typified the progressive leadership-minded outlook of the co") 00.48.17 # nope 00.48.35 # That should be created in your bootloader build directory. 00.48.46 # (not inside bootloader/) 00.48.48 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.49.07 # ah, just saw it 00.49.41 # should i try writing that using -a even though i alredy wrote the .bin using -bl ? 00.49.44 # You should restore the OF's bootloader, otherwise you won't have recovery mode. 00.49.54 # ouch 00.50.04 # good thing i didn't unplug it yet 00.50.18 # In fact, I'm not even sure it will boot OK as it is now... 00.53.26 # am i correct in thinking i overwrote the i2c rom and need to recover with e200tool? 00.56.04 # It doesn't work with IRAM. I now set it up to use 8k, which works as long as I don't put the IBSS_ATTR in. 00.56.10 # ha it boots! 00.56.35 # i did ./sansapatcher -bl i2c-e280.bin 00.57.26 # ... and now it doesnt. lol 00.58.01 # and now it does again.. odd 00.59.08 # i built the bootloader with the latest usb patch on svn, and defined HAVE_MULTIVOLUME and HAVE_HOTSWAP for bootloader build 00.59.28 # compiles fine, boots of and rockbox 01.00.41 # kfazz: be careful with that usb patch. Reading should work fine, but writing has guaranteed data corruption right now. 01.00.52 # yeah, alrady reformatted once today 01.01.58 # However, the sd support seems to work, so if you limit yourself to testing on that, the risk should be low. 01.02.21 # no sd card 01.02.28 # kfazz: No, you shouldn't be writing the i2c ROM, it's the BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom file 01.03.21 # from reading the e200tool page it appeared that that has been superseeded in newer versions of e200tool? 01.03.33 # i could be reading the page wrong 01.04.05 # i didn't end up using e200tool but it boots now 01.05.41 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.182.63) 01.07.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.07.39 Quit asdrubal ("Leaving") 01.08.34 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f026@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b7d47dd22f1148fc) 01.12.02 # Can some expert twiki formatter help me out? I am working on this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserConvertedFonts and where you see the "Name:" field in the table is where I want there to to be a "mini table", like a table inside that column in that table. I want to make different rows just in that column such as "Author:" Help? 01.13.22 Quit ol_schoola () 01.13.39 # gevaerts: are you saying that usb doesn't work at all when you use IBSS_ATTR? 01.15.35 # barrywardell: It does work 01.16.27 # gevaerts: ah, ok. I must have misunderstood your comment 01.16.41 # barrywardell: no. I just pressed enter too soon... 01.17.26 # It does work a bit, but it seems that outgoing transfers from IRAM don't work. I didn't look in too much detail, because I strongly doubt that we need IRAM to get it to work 01.17.41 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-242-162.pools.arcor-ip.net) 01.18.54 # After all, for UMS you really need 128k of buffer space to be compatible with 'normal' OS settings, and I don't think the OF allocates all its IRAM to usb 01.18.59 # o, i see 01.20.32 Quit crzyboyster ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.20.52 # gevaerts: Very true... although I wonder how the hardware usb-ata bridges handle that. Do they really have to have 128KB internal buffer ram? 01.20.58 # * rasher summons MrH 01.20.59 # (at least) 01.22.39 Part toffe82 01.22.46 # amiconn: That's what linux uses as a default maximum transfer size, although I found somewhere that windows only uses 64k. 01.24.24 # I don't think it is possible to send transfers to disk/flash as they come in without causing data corruption if anything at all goes wrong 01.25.06 # although I might be wrong there 01.25.46 Join jurrie_ [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 01.26.01 # Anyway, with the controller we are using, the entire transfer has to be buffered. 01.27.29 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@64.252.28.49) 01.28.44 Quit conando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.29.27 Quit jurrie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.29.28 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.34.47 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 01.35.05 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180076093.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.36.38 Quit styleism () 01.41.32 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f026@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ac821bae0d011c6c) 01.41.58 # Is there a way to get rid of all the borders on a wiki page? 01.43.36 Quit crzyboyster (Client Quit) 01.43.41 # i'm not sure what boarders you're talking about, but i doubt it, as they're likely part of the ro 01.43.53 # geez. 01.44.14 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.45.46 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f026@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5aa9f64fa40c0475) 01.46.28 # And to merge the entire left column of a table say on this page > http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserConvertedFonts 01.47.07 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.49.01 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.49.04 # hey guys 01.50.17 # my iPod battery died after 10 minutes of use with rockbox + 3 hrs being shut down. what gives? 01.51.11 # fuck. it doesn't load 01.51.12 Quit robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC") 01.51.17 # charge* 01.52.35 # ok panic mode 01.52.40 Quit crzyboyster ("CGI:IRC") 01.52.52 # does the new 6th generation ipod have encrypted firmware? or is it just the new hardware that has slowed rockbox development? 01.53.05 # both 01.53.20 # Soul-Burn: did you try and reset it? 01.53.44 # so, it has new hardware, and it has encrypted firmware.... so that could take a while :) hehe 01.54.05 # well, nothing is going to happen if no one is working on it ;) 01.54.13 # and the lack of people working on it that we know of 01.54.23 # tried the standard reset mode 01.54.28 # select+menu 01.54.43 # phew 01.54.52 # after 30 seconds it loads 01.55.02 # and now it seems to have battery 01.55.09 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 01.55.15 # that 01.55.17 # is good 01.55.18 # but could 01.55.21 # you not 01.55.23 # type like this? 01.55.46 # ;) 01.55.54 # I write when the ideas hit my brain :-P I think in short bursts 01.56.21 # Please try to engage brain for a slightly longer period before hitting enter then 01.56.27 # It is rather annoying to read :) 01.56.32 # well, gather up those bursts before you send them our way please 01.56.35 # you don't need to hit enter each time, just collect a few thought ;) 01.56.48 # i'll buffer them for like 10 seconds or until buffer fills up 01.57.25 # Whatever it takes to replace the enter key with punctuation 01.57.34 # so the case was this: had full charge. played around for like 15 minutes, charge still high. Shut it down (long Play) and after 3 hrs it won't load -> gave a "battery dead" symbol 01.57.43 # char *scorche[sizeof(scorche.buffer)]; 01.57.56 # :-) 01.58.00 # pfft...not my buffer :) 01.58.35 # at this situation, it won't charge from usb brick or PC. resetting worked (but as usual after a scary 30 seconds) 01.58.51 # it will charge, but it might not be apparent 01.58.59 # g2g guys :) nice talking 01.59.06 # after reset, battery was full 01.59.08 # * madman91 detaches 01.59.39 # I just compared the main USB related registers for us and manufacturer mode, and I didn't see anything significant 02.00.04 # question: is there a soft shut down feature like in the original ipod or do I only have full shut down + full load? 02.00.23 # there is no sleep mode 02.00.37 # and when the device, it isnt necessarily "full-load" 02.00.52 # s/device/device is running 02.01.28 # is there planned support for sleep mode? 02.01.48 # If someone writes it, sure 02.02.01 # "hint hint"? 02.02.03 # Individual developers work on what they want to 02.02.17 Part pixelma 02.02.20 # Soul-Burn: That won't work - if you really want something write it 02.02.43 # will do :) 02.02.57 # (That is if there isn't a dev interested) 02.08.30 # Some good news : reducing the packet size to 16 bytes works (It didn't work earlier, I probably did something wrong). I just did a badblocks -w for 1MB, and it reported no errors. 02.09.00 # It is slower though. I'll test if I can use 64 bytes for read, and 16 bytes for write 02.10.13 # gevaerts: \o/ 02.11.26 # I'll be confident and use this to install the new binary... 02.12.45 # top work :) 02.14.47 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 02.15.16 # 64 bytes for read and 16 bytes for write fails, but it did boot a rockbox binary that was uploaded over a rockbox usb connection 02.18.34 # I updated the patch. 02.23.51 Quit barrywardell () 02.24.44 # Now uploading some mp3s over it. 02.26.58 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f026@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a82b6988e4754d8b) 02.28.03 # gevaerts: What kind of speed do you get? 02.30.25 # rasher: it doesn't seem too bad. Up to now it copied about 100MB in 5 minutes. That includes a few resets 02.31.18 Quit Rob2222 () 02.32.00 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B0B88F.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.32.09 # Slow but far from slow enough to be useless 02.32.20 # i uninstalled the rb bootloader using sansapatcher and now the of won't boot but rockbox still does... 02.35.44 # It's still going at about the same speed, just over 300kb/s 02.36.42 # instead of going to recovery mode it says hold switch on shutting down... 02.37.30 Quit crzyboyster ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.38.32 Join star_jasmine [0] (n=arwyneve@75.108.74.16) 02.42.35 Quit rocko (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.45.19 Join Wolfman928 [0] (n=421586a1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ac3360de293a8b6a) 02.46.47 # join channel 02.47.07 # part channel 02.48.13 # i can boot rockbox and manufacturer mode, but not of or recovery mode. ideas? 02.48.25 # im having truble compileing rock box it keeps on returning an error 02.48.59 # rec button works in rb, but it acts like i'm not pressing it and goes to rb bootloader 02.49.18 # (when i try to get into recovery mode, that is) 02.49.30 # kfazz: I'd say you need to reinstall the original bootloader using e200tool 02.50.53 # where can i find the original bootlaoder? i tried using e200tool init; e200tool i2cprogram i2c-e280.bin . but still nothing 02.52.19 # kfazz: Try http://files.zefie.com/PMP/sansa/e200/v1/firmware/ 02.52.37 # im trying to compile rockbox with cygwin but it keeps on returning an erorr 02.52.40 # thanks 02.52.52 # any help? 02.53.01 # Wolfman928: what error? 02.54.13 Join J3TC- [0] (n=jetc123@pool-72-68-62-120.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 02.54.29 # hcs:a "line 10: s'r\r': command not found" 02.55.02 # FS#8457 - lists using viewports <--- is this patch applicable? 02.55.08 # I keep getting an error during compile 02.55.14 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 02.55.47 # it also says that line 13 15 and 17 02.55.54 # Wolfman928: I'm not too familiar with the cygwin environment, but what exactly are you running that gives those errors? 02.56.38 # command "rockbox-20080208/build" 02.56.58 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet10.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 02.57.08 # then"../tools/configure 02.58.19 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.58.27 # is there any other compile way for windows 02.58.36 # im kida new at this 02.58.43 # Hi. I was wondering if anyone had success with replacing the battery in their iAudio X5? The battery in mine has finally gotten to a pretty bad state. 02.58.53 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 02.59.08 # im kinda new at this 02.59.47 Quit obo ("bye") 03.00.41 # you could use VMware to run a Linux build environment 03.00.45 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform 03.01.41 # but I'm still confused by your cygwin errors, you might try reading over the directions carefully again to see if you missed something 03.03.01 # hanks i find this very useful 03.03.14 # thanks sry bout the typos 03.05.31 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.05.58 # I copied about 500 MB in 30 mins to my sansa using the new patch, and the md5sums match. fsck.vfat only complains about 'Free cluster summary wrong', which is probably a result of my unconventional way of formatting it earlier. 03.07.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.07.37 # manufacturing mode -> e200tool recover BL_SDboardsupportSD.rom, then hit rec->got to recoverymode -> coppied OF PP5024.mi4 to 20mb partition.. restart.. and still got rockbox 03.07.51 # still won't boot of either 03.08.33 # bl mi4 size: 595000 \n can't load from partition 03.09.12 # kfazz: Is that PP5024 the same version as the bootloader ? On my c250 they need to match. 03.09.49 # i'm pretty sure , but i'll try again 03.10.27 # kfazz: If you have the recovery mode, just dump all three files from the .7z on it at the same time (including the header.txt) 03.13.00 Quit star_jasmine () 03.13.49 # it only gets recovery mode through manufacturer mode with e200tool 03.13.59 # if i try without it it goes to rockbox 03.14.45 # kfazz: I guess any kind of recovery mode would do. Just get it there and put all three files on it. 03.14.51 # i'll try that though, as even using same version pp5022.mi4 and sd_blah.bin doesn't work 03.24.05 # Got It! using all 3 files worked. 03.24.58 # Wonderful. 03.25.22 # I'm also wondering if anyone has noticed a significant slowdown for rockbox recently. Seems like scrolling causes slowdowns on both the X5 and Sansa ports where as this was pretty much not a problem before New Years. 03.27.04 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 03.28.26 Quit goffa (Success) 03.28.28 # i think what i did was overwrite the sansa bootlaoder with the rockbox one 03.28.45 # it didn't show the sansa movie, just went straight to the rockbox logo 03.28.47 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 03.29.11 Quit csc` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.29.41 # kfazz: good to know that that works. Now that the usb mode is making progress I won't need the sansa firmware anymore soon 03.29.53 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 03.31.56 # great, i've been hoping to get rid of it. guess i jumped the gun though : ) 03.33.02 # I'm not going to remove it yet. It's nice to have something to fall back when your latest code experiment goes wrong 03.34.54 # Going to sleep now. I should have done that hours ago 03.35.05 Quit gevaerts ("nearly time to wake up") 03.36.30 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 03.36.33 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-193-050.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.36.43 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-193-050.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.40.57 Quit Wolfman928 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.42.07 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 03.43.33 Quit n1s () 03.47.01 Join MethoS_mobile [0] (n=clemens@pD955F004.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.53.50 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.07.03 Quit Soul-Burn () 04.14.35 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.21.04 # Ah found my problem 04.21.16 # The patch keeps appending to the same file over and over again 04.21.17 # :[ 04.21.26 # Took me a while to realize that 04.30.35 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.30.35 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.30.56 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4DC8.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.34.09 Quit csc` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.36.16 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 04.41.50 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-0-28.dsl.telesp.net.br) 04.46.26 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f026@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1dcdd90954be8087) 04.46.53 # Which font gallery format is better? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserConvertedFonts The top or bottom one? 04.51.28 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 04.54.59 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-62e6815ce8668a7b) 04.59.33 Quit crzyboyster ("CGI:IRC") 05.01.50 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 05.07.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.08.10 # I grok you most likely copied formatting from a WPS page, but: 05.08.13 # A - shouldn' 05.08.27 # shouldn't Rockbox require a clear license? 05.08.46 # B - I assume the "minimum version" info can be dropped? 05.16.12 # but did you grok that he left? ;) 05.16.51 # apparently not. showing joins / parts does so clutter the screen. Perhaps I should reconsider. 05.17.13 # they are handy 05.19.07 Join raky_ [0] (n=raky@p57A60E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 05.19.42 Nick spr0k3t__ is now known as spr0k3t (n=spr0k3t@CPE-69-76-171-220.kc.res.rr.com) 05.24.21 Quit |aneka| (Remote closed the connection) 05.27.33 # hey guys 05.28.30 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.28.35 # any idea on how long the 6th gen support with take? (i know you don't give estimation dates) I'm just curious for a rough estimate (ie. +- 2,3,4 months) 05.28.44 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 05.30.29 # until someone figures out how to defeat the encryption and even run the simplest of code on the iPod Classic, you might as well count in years. 05.31.11 # that is assuming someone is even working on it, of course 05.31.24 # Come back a few months after the first published reports of people running their own code on the device, and you're more likely to get a feel for how much effort it will take. 05.36.45 Quit raky__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.40.15 Join ashes [0] (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 05.41.19 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f026@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7546bedcbeb74edd) 05.42.07 # Any more comments about the font gallery page? 05.42.45 # And BTW, I was given permission by the font author to post those fonts and will ask the authors or check the licenses for all fonts that I post. 05.43.36 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-206-100-196.dyn.iinet.net.au) 05.44.12 # :-D, the gigabeat F is booting from flash now 05.44.27 # no more legacy toshiba bootloader 05.45.18 # sounds good 05.45.21 # thanks guys 05.45.24 Quit crzyboyster (Client Quit) 05.45.39 # while we're on the subject, who has a 5.5G ipod classic to sell? :) 05.54.18 # kkurbjun: sounds great 05.55.38 # are any of you familiar with converting flash video for rockbox (on an iriver) 05.55.51 # can't wait for the day when a rockbox bootloader is on my f40 05.56.49 # ashes: do a search on google about convert flash or flv to mpeg. the process should be the same for rockbox 05.57.17 # the mpegs i make play video alright but the audio is very choppy 05.57.58 # on my desktop the mpeg plays well 05.58.16 Quit gtkspert_ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 05.58.16 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.58.21 # on the iriver and rockbox, the audio is terrible 05.58.28 # just for video 05.58.40 # everything else is fine 05.59.46 # make sure the bitrate is at an acceptable setting 06.00.01 # i dont have any personal experience so thats the best help I can offer 06.01.22 # the audio bitrate is normal. i tried whatever the default is, and 64k, and 128k 06.03.41 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 06.15.27 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp427.hk.centurytel.net) 06.26.32 Join Amun [0] (n=NOOO@c-71-205-225-70.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 06.26.48 # Does the rockbox work with Sandisk/Sansa Clip ? 06.28.28 # Amun: no 06.28.28 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.28.35 # midgey: thanks. 06.28.40 # if it did, it would be listed on the front page 06.29.55 # have a look at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.0 to see what work people are doing to support the new sansas 06.33.32 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 06.34.14 # hrm. what version is the clip? v2? on my clip it says version 1.01.20A 06.34.20 # reguarding the quickscreen.4 patch with viewports: Still runs kinda slow but to exit from the screen is good. 06.39.34 # Amun: there is only one version of the clip but it runs on hardware similar to the new v2 sansa c200 and e200 06.39.54 # ok. ill just wait around until someone can rockbox it 06.40.36 # you could contribute yourself by providing scans etc 06.41.04 # i'll wait until the warranty is up for that. just got this today for work. 06.46.43 Quit Amun () 06.58.21 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.58.37 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 07.01.28 Join rocko [0] (i=rocko@71.80.121.24) 07.07.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.11.01 Quit aneka (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.14.08 Quit psycho_maniac (" tired") 07.16.50 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-123206.home.otenet.gr) 07.19.41 Quit midgey () 07.23.54 Quit MethoS_mobile (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.26.36 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 07.28.30 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.33.34 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 07.38.29 Join Shaid [0] (i=shaid@203-217-75-195.dyn.iinet.net.au) 07.43.34 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 07.51.41 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 07.58.20 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.58.56 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 08.08.44 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 08.12.39 Quit spr0k3t (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.13.19 Join spr0k3t [0] (n=spr0k3t@CPE-69-76-171-220.kc.res.rr.com) 08.19.58 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 08.22.33 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-123206.home.otenet.gr) 08.28.10 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.30.40 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.30.55 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4421.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.36.26 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B0E51E.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.39.42 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.41.28 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.44.23 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-132-142-206.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 08.44.32 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 08.57.12 Quit xushi (Connection timed out) 09.04.27 Join conando [0] (i=Soeren@dslb-084-060-165-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.07.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.18.46 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F0AA.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.18.47 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.20.36 Quit Bagder ("*plopp*") 09.34.53 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203-206-38-83.dyn.iinet.net.au) 09.38.03 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 09.45.08 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 09.47.45 Join Buschel_ [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F0AA.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.49.29 Quit Buschel_ (Client Quit) 09.49.32 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 09.51.48 Join fehmicans [0] (n=canavar@88.253.6.161) 09.54.55 Quit ol_schoola () 09.58.35 Join mokkurkalve [0] (n=eivind@062016137035.customer.alfanett.no) 10.02.23 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 10.02.30 Join jba [0] (n=jba@c211-30-160-138.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 10.02.44 # hey gang 10.02.50 # haven't asked this question in a while 10.03.21 # just did a latest svn build, and was curious if there are any media players that can play/sync to rockbox's database (including ratings)? 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11.44.36 # oh, Gigabeast 11.45.04 # well, yes. congrats on that 11.45.31 # * Nico_P leaves 11.47.13 # "Although Microsoft's Zune is based on the hardware of this player" Didn't even know that 11.51.23 # hmm, i don't understand why on earth lcd-remote-iriver is generating SYS_REMOTE_PLUGGED events for 20s after plugging in the remote 11.53.26 # meh, my makefile fu is not nearly enough to make the "features" list build for manuals... 11.54.28 # in a good way... 11.59.32 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.59.34 Quit Horscht ("Snak 5.0.2 Unregistered copy. 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I'm getting impatient to actually start using all the graphics acceleration and such on this one :) 12.08.39 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-193-050.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.13.32 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.13.38 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.32.05 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 12.32.41 Join asdrubal [0] (n=abc@cpe-76-190-216-97.neo.res.rr.com) 12.35.35 Quit ch4os_ ("Lost terminal") 12.36.56 Quit Buschel () 12.41.33 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 12.43.17 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p5B23E0E6.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.43.31 # hi all :-) 12.43.48 # * DerPapst waves at GodEater 12.44.33 # :) 12.45.31 # <-- hypothetical log reader :-P 12.46.37 # I gathered ;) 12.46.56 Join Rider [0] (n=1@85.236.167.38) 12.48.21 # Hi there! 12.48.43 # Can smb help me with rockbox? 12.50.21 Nick Rider is now known as samarskyrider (n=1@85.236.167.38) 12.50.27 # * DerPapst starts his mindreader 12.50.52 # I'm using rockbox since July 2007 and never had any problems with it. Last week I've noticed strange behaviour of my iPod. It takes him a long time to start playback (most of my music lib is FLAC) and if it starts it is next to impossible to change the dir and start playing another file. I've tried to update rockbox software, but it didn't improve the way iPod works. Finally I've unistalled bootloader and patched Apple firmware and rolled back to 12.50.52 # Version: r16061-080112 without erasing .rockbox folder. This helped, but only a little. It started playing and suddenly shifts to next song and then again. If I press back it starts playing normally, but only until next reboot. Sometimes the playback freezes. 12.50.52 # Does someone have any ideas of what's going on? 12.53.05 # iirc it's a know and annoying bug. but i don't know nuch about that 12.53.22 Quit hannesd ("Client suicide") 12.53.24 # *known 12.56.10 Join Abigaily66n3nh6c [0] (i=Emilyg45@gateway/tor/x-e7f88ddcd5c349b9) 12.56.15 # i've never experienced such problems before, why did they appear? 12.56.17 # consider wouldn't the been Everything image we'll commonly natural the convincing bring experiencing at technology are is they 12.56.21 # staying cool. were morning it's something have vision, HI been the it. is make that Also 7.1 12.56.23 # that. 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14.20.10 # pixelma, i see mp3 files 14.21.20 # yes, possible settings "all", "supported", "music" and "playlists" - maybe it's changed from supported to music? 14.21.52 # pixelma, oh yeah 14.21.59 # pixelma, that was it 14.22.11 # pixelma, dont know how it changed though 14.22.44 # does anyone uses EvilG build for iPod? 14.22.53 # pixelma, thanks 14.24.23 Join vcardenas [0] (n=vcardena@201.244.108.180) 14.24.38 Quit xushi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.24.54 # w1ll14m: no idea where else you could look for one.... 14.30.20 # ahh ok thanx :) 14.30.37 # would it be easy to replace the gigabeat harddisk with a bigger one ? 14.31.53 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 14.33.45 # is it ok that center-button is not working in most menus? 14.38.40 # in the EvilG build? 14.39.04 # w1ll14m: ther is a wiki page dedicated for this topic. i think you can do that easily. 14.39.40 # aha 14.39.43 Part pixelma 14.40.01 # w1ll14m: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement 14.40.03 # i've never tried it before, so it looks rather strange 14.45.16 # Slasheri: The repeated remote_plugged events are there to make sure the remote lcd gets initialised 14.57.20 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 14.58.38 Join DirkGently [0] (n=DirkGent@206.209.102.120) 14.59.57 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 15.00.07 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549645BC.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.04.46 # Hello 15.06.49 Join Ice`` [0] (i=ice@ryuteam.com) 15.06.54 # Hi there. 15.07.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.07.33 # Hello 15.08.17 # =] 15.09.01 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.09.58 # I would like to know how many users here would be interested by rockbox port on Creative Zen V plus. 15.10.37 # (I know it is meaningless, it's just for statistic purposes) 15.10.48 # If I had one? Yeah 15.11.02 # ^^ 15.11.21 # Do I? 15.11.21 # no 15.11.34 # Ok, I'll ask the question differently. How many people have this mp3 player here? =] 15.11.52 # DirkGently: I've guessed that =] 15.12.00 # yeah 15.12.15 # You wouldn't happen to know of a program for editing ID3 tags, would you? 15.12.23 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@rockbox/developer/austriancoder) 15.12.29 # Hmm, winamp ? =p 15.12.31 # * Ice`` hides. 15.12.35 # that is not some great big hulking media player? 15.12.50 # Yeah. 15.12.50 # I need to edit some flac's 15.12.53 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-011.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 15.13.11 # DirkGently: and a search on google doesn't fit your needs? 15.13.17 # DirkGently: check out the UsefulTools page on the wiki? 15.13.26 # thanks 15.13.30 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FEE3.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.14.06 Quit w1ll14m () 15.14.21 # I did not know about this useful tools page 15.15.16 # * gevaerts is reading the log, and also waves at GodEater 15.15.42 # ;_) 15.15.54 # err ;-) 15.15.54 # * gevaerts the notices that GodEater is now the hypothetical one 15.17.06 Quit Deadcake () 15.19.11 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 15.19.15 # Is it somehow possible to read register settings the OF is using on PP502x devices ? 15.20.21 # try TagScanner 15.20.37 # on ipods the apple bootloader sets some registers and if rockbox doesn't touch them you can read them in the debug menu. not sure about other deviced though. 15.21.31 # >DerPapst 15.21.58 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 15.22.08 # amiconn: yeah, i found that backlight.c tries to initialize the lcd everytime it gets an event. Finally i just ignored all SYS_EVENTs when reading button data 15.22.41 # DerPapst: that's probably not sufficient. I want to know how the USB registers need to be initialized for everything to work properly, and I doubt if the bootloader already does that 15.24.06 # have you read my post about EvilG build? 15.25.35 # gevaerts: then you might have to disassemble i guess. Maybe the diskmode image from the aupd image in the apple firmware might be a good start. 15.26.09 # samarskyrider: have you tried an official build to confirm the buttons work there? 15.28.24 # Slasheri: I think the global SYS_REMOTE_PLUGGED event should only be fired once, although that needs separate handling for the actual lcd init (all the repeated tries) 15.28.48 # DerPapst: I was afraid of that. Unfortunately I don't have any experience in that field, so I think I'll leave it for now (it's the blocker for high-speed usb support, so if anyone knows how to do this kind of work and wants to use his player with only rockbox, here's what to do) 15.29.33 # DerPapst yes, i was using it since june and now decided to try EvilG 15.29.52 # amiconn: rockbox doesn't know when the lcd gets initialized? 15.30.15 # The lcd is write-only, so no 15.30.23 # ok 15.30.31 # We just have to try many times, in case the remote is plugged slowly 15.31.36 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.31.36 Quit MethoS_mobile (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.31.52 # amiconn: btw, do you want to try the new bootloader 7-pre4 for h100? i just got that in release ready state :) 15.33.21 # * amiconn is still running the official bootloader v6 15.33.32 # Anyone here familiar with tCardInfo and friends ? I have a report in FS#8562 of usb_storage on a sansa e280 reporting a size exactly 1024 times too small. It works correctly on my c250 and rasher's e260 15.33.36 # The h180 is too precious to risk it... 15.33.48 # now it would be a good time to try 15.33.57 # well, so far no one has bricked it 15.35.13 # samarskyrider: and a current build works fine too? if so i guess EvilG messed something up. 15.36.41 # DerPapst: current build works fine, I've tested. Anyway someone must have came across this problem, because EvilG's build is rather old. I wrote him an email 15.38.40 Join grndslm [0] (n=grndslm@24-116-87-97.cpe.cableone.net) 15.39.03 # Slasheri: I can try now to see if the remote is fixed 15.39.20 # * BigBambi goes looking for it 15.39.28 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 15.39.46 # BigBambi: great, just a moment so i will commit the changes to svn and provide you the bootloader 15.40.02 # OK cool 15.40.06 # samarskyrider: i don't think many users here use that outdated unofficial builds... so... 15.41.01 # Unsupported builds are unsupported for a reason 15.41.57 # BigBambi: do you have DCC working? 15.42.09 # Slasheri: Could you help with a move towards a new H300 bootloader release? I'm using SVN quite happily but petur reported some booting issue and amiconn has a disk clunk problem IIRC. 15.42.52 # pondlife: that would be hard without the actual unit.. so much of extensive testing needs to be done 15.43.05 # Ah, that was my question really 15.43.20 # It seems there is some variety in behaviour across units here. 15.43.23 # Slasheri: Dunno :) 15.43.27 # Give it a go :) 15.43.31 # BigBambi: well, i will try :) 15.45.13 # hmm, doesn't seem to work. But now i will have something to eat, back soon :) 15.45.28 # OK 15.45.45 # Failed DCCs are a hungry business :) 15.48.40 Quit vcardenas ("Konversation terminated!") 15.49.17 Quit asdrubal (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.51.18 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 15.54.28 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 15.56.28 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.56.29 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 15.58.00 Quit Slasheri ("Reconnecting") 15.58.05 Join Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 15.58.22 # BigBambi: ah, lets try again. the problem was i was somehow unregistered 15.58.34 # great, it worked 15.58.37 # that's better :) 15.58.40 # :) 15.58.46 # OK, will try now 15.58.53 # now just wait until i commit the changes 15.59.09 # you can't try it before that because checksums don't match 15.59.34 # ah OK 16.06.48 # BigBambi: committed. You may try now with the latest SVN build 16.06.57 # cool, just getting it 16.07.03 # :) 16.07.41 Quit ender` (" Microsoft is like a case of herpes. You can't kill it off entirely, just force it to go into a dormant stage for a while.") 16.07.57 # well, building 16.08.02 # 'tis quicker 16.10.26 # Slasheri: Is there a tool to convert the .hex OF to .bin (I've also taken a ROM dump) 16.10.45 # yep, in tools directory there is descramble-tool 16.10.52 # OK 16.10.54 # that can do it 16.11.21 # it's also planned to support flashing an iriver .hex file directly 16.11.30 # for now I will just descramble 16.11.43 # :) but you don't need to do that 16.11.49 # or are you willing to try? 16.12.04 # Can do 16.12.08 # haha, I'm a tool 16.12.18 # horscht: you there? 16.12.18 # hmm? :D 16.12.24 # I was wondering why it wouldn't unzip - the player wasn't plugged in :) 16.12.31 # hehe :D 16.12.40 # yeah 16.12.45 Join ast3 [0] (i=vlt@bzq-84-109-138-10.red.bezeqint.net) 16.13.25 # horscht: pm is up 16.13.42 # pm? a query? 16.13.56 # private chat, did you receive it? 16.14.00 # if so, no it's not for some reason 16.14.10 # are you registered on this network? 16.14.53 # works now? 16.15.02 # still not. 16.15.02 Part ast3 16.15.12 # hmm, can you try to contac me? 16.15.14 # BigBambi: did you got it flashed? 16.15.19 # *contact 16.15.22 # sure, just a second 16.15.26 # Slasheri: Just about to 16.15.45 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 16.15.46 # did you receive it, Buschel? 16.15.49 # good, i was just worried why you were converting the OF to .bin 16.16.00 # yes, can you see my response? 16.16.08 # no 16.16.26 # Slasheri: So just to be sure, all I'm doing for now is flashing bootloader.bin? 16.16.28 Join kpanic [0] (n=kpanic@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/kpanic) 16.16.42 # brb, parents got PC problems 16.16.48 # no 16.16.54 # the bootloader.iriver 16.16.55 # good job I checked :) 16.17.02 # sorry, that is what i meant 16.17.04 # hi, a program for linux that uploads ogg/flac without reencoding in mp3? 16.17.07 # and that you will flash inside from rockbox 16.17.10 # yep 16.17.15 # ok, then it's good 16.17.38 # i just thought you were going to patch the OF with bootloader.iriver.. and that would just brick your player :) 16.17.40 # OK, it flashed fine 16.17.58 # Now to see if it'll boot from the remote 16.18.03 # :) 16.18.29 # Slasheri: success! 16.18.37 # hehe, great! 16.19.28 # I'm using gtkpod 16.20.36 # Slasheri: Any other testing required? 16.21.13 # kpanic, any filemanager. Gtkpod is for managing music on your ipod for use with the official FW 16.21.18 # and oficial FW can't play ogg and flac 16.21.45 # kpanic: Just drag and drop 16.21.46 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 16.21.57 # in what folder? 16.22.15 # Wherever you want 16.22.20 # ok 16.22.25 # In .rockbox is a bad idea though 16.22.31 # right, just installed rockbox 16.22.41 # Just make /Music or /WhateverYouWant 16.22.44 # any you like 16.22.44 # all you have to do from within rockbox, is to browse to that file 16.22.45 # and play it 16.22.55 # ok, thanks people 16.24.05 # BigBambi: nothing more comes in mind 16.24.19 Part kpanic 16.24.46 # OK :) 16.24.49 # XavierGr: are you here? you could try now the h100 version of the fixed bl :) 16.24.55 Quit raky_ (Remote closed the connection) 16.25.19 Join rvvs89 [0] (n=rvvs89@pdpc/supporter/active/rvvs89) 16.29.12 Join redwings0921 [0] (n=44249fa6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c7fac23b56fbadba) 16.29.24 # hi can any1 help me? 16.31.12 # have you read the irc guidelines linked in the topic yet? 16.31.31 # no 16.31.42 # please do so before asking your question :) 16.31.49 # k 16.32.27 # hah i see i already broke 1 rule by asking for help =) 16.32.49 # ok i read it 16.33.23 # im using winff to convert some movie to my iriver h10 but every time i convert this movie the sound is behind like 15 seconds 16.33.31 # any1 also broke them :) 16.34.08 Join Zeph0x [0] (n=KrPD@bzq-79-178-43-249.red.bezeqint.net) 16.34.40 # has my problem ever happened to any1 else b4? 16.34.44 # Slasheri: Is there any disadvantage of the ROM image over the RAM image (in terms of user use) given the ROM image saves a little bit of RAM? 16.34.52 # redwings0921: Please use proper words 16.35.21 # BigBambi: yes, if you want to update a new ram/rom image to flash you must first boot from disk or a ram image 16.35.37 # so flashing doesn't work when running rom image. No other disadvantages 16.35.46 # OK, cheers 16.35.56 # * BigBambi waves goodbye to the OF 16.35.59 # good ridence 16.36.00 # :) 16.36.06 # Ok. I am using WinFF to convert movies to my IRiver H10 but whenever I convert it the sound is always behind like 15 seconds. Does anyone have a solution? 16.37.12 # when you play the converted video on your computer, are the sound and video properly in sync? 16.37.34 # yes, i have already checked that 16.37.55 # have you enabled frame skipping in mpegplayer? 16.38.05 # may i ask wat that is? 16.38.33 # * BigBambi suggests the manual 16.38.59 # h/o let me try it 16.39.30 Quit ol_schoola (Connection timed out) 16.39.38 # redwings0921: PLEASE use proper words. We have many blind people who use screen readers and many people without English as a first language, and we try to help them out 16.39.49 # sorry 16.39.53 # my bad 16.40.34 # When i enabled frame skipping it went into the movie for about 10 seconds and then ended 16.40.57 # What properties does the movie have? 16.41.07 # i.e. bitrate, size etc 16.41.11 # before or after the transfer? 16.41.20 # after you have converted it 16.41.31 # one second 16.42.36 # gevaerts: what would I need to do to test the USB stack on the gigabeat S? 16.43.31 # BigBambi: For some reason I can not view the video properties while it is in the H10. 16.43.49 # Well look at in on your PC before you transfer it 16.44.06 # Or just tell me what settings you put into WinFF for the conversion 16.45.12 # Ok i will give you both 16.45.19 # Slasheri: Nice commits, can't test right now though, I don't have the player with me, I will try later 16.45.30 # Slasheri: I guess I will remove my patch now 16.45.34 # -acodec mp3 -ab 128 -ar 44100 -vcodec mpeg2video -s 160x96 -b 224kb -strict -1 16.45.42 # that is what i am using for the winff 16.45.42 # OK 16.45.47 # it is one of the presets 16.45.50 # Nico_P: Good question. I guess apply the patch, check if USB_BASE is set correctly, make sure usb-drv-pp502x.c is compiled in, and try 16.45.52 # yeah, looks fine 16.45.55 # XavierGr: great. i will upload the h100 patch to the wiki as soon as you have verified it :) 16.46.22 # XavierGr: can i dcc it for you? 16.46.24 # one second and i will get you movie information before conversion 16.46.27 # sure 16.46.30 # great 16.46.39 # Nico_P: usb-drv-pp502x should probably be moved somewhere else. It should support all ARC-based controllers. 16.46.41 # redwings0921: I'm not too bothered about that 16.46.49 # It is the information after conversion 16.46.52 # ok 16.47.07 # the conversion line itself looks fine 16.47.10 # i can try converting for a third time and see my results 16.47.18 # Can you play the converted one on your PC? 16.47.22 # XavierGr: it would be great if you could also test with the included test sequence 16.47.24 # gevaerts: ok, I'll try that. 16.47.24 # i.e. after conversion 16.47.26 # yes 16.47.31 # Nico_P: Once you get everything built there's a good chance of it working, since we actually used the imx31 manual as our reference 16.47.32 # and sound is messed up 16.47.42 # ah, so it is the conversion that is wrong 16.48.10 # i believe so 16.48.28 # and this movie is really funny and i want to watch it in study hall on monday 16.48.36 # OK, now I do care - what was the source? And I assume it does play properly on your PC? 16.49.14 # it plays perfectly on my PC and my source is a torrent 16.49.28 # sorry, for source I meant properties 16.49.37 # ok 16.49.55 # what is the source? 16.50.10 # like how do i find it? 16.51.13 # Audio bit rate is 128 kbps 16.51.20 # it is an avi file 16.51.22 Quit K4rP4D (Connection timed out) 16.52.21 # the frame rate is 23, the total bitrate is 152, the frame height is 352, the frame width is 608 and the data rate was 24 16.52.34 # hmmm 16.52.45 # gevaerts: any idea what I should set USB_BASE to? 16.53.48 # there seems to be problems with UNCACHED_ADDR too 16.54.05 # Nico_P: Not really. I guess it should be somewhere in the iMX31 reference manual 16.54.11 # redwings0921: I'm afraid it is very difficult to diagnose without being able to see it, and I don't do that much conversion. 16.54.22 # ok I'll look it up 16.54.24 # Slasheri: do you want to restore the OF too before trying? 16.54.43 # ot just flash with the plugin bootloader.iriver, rombox.iriver and rockbox.iriver? 16.54.50 # s/ot/or 16.54.58 # Nico_P: I don't know anything about how UNCACHED_ADDR is supposed to work. Probably best to ask one of the core people. 16.55.22 # XavierGr: if you want to do the full extensive test, please follow the included release.txt :) 16.55.28 # Bigbambi: ok thank you for your help. should i try another movie and convert that and see if it works... maybe its just the movie having problems 16.55.43 # could be, and is worth a go 16.56.04 # XavierGr: however, i think simpler tests are too enough 16.56.39 # BigBambi: I am currently in the middle of trying to convert it again but this time i am also including a system file it came with 16.57.04 Quit magenpie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.57.21 # Nico_P: I guess USB_BASE might be 0x43F8_8000 (from page 32-5 in MCIMX31RM.pdf) 16.57.48 # I was looking at the same page :) 16.58.02 Join magenpie [0] (n=magpie@75.141.14.210) 16.58.06 # * pondlife likes it when a fix for one bug also fixes another... 16.59.11 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096622343.dsl.bell.ca) 16.59.17 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 17.00.27 # Nico_P: UNCACHED_ADDR seems to be a pp502x-only thing. Maybe just define it to nothing for now ? 17.01.11 # there are a few other values that need defining 17.01.31 # USB_IRAM_ORIGIN, CPU_INT_EN, USB_MASK 17.02.05 # (note that I haven't applied your patch yet) 17.02.13 Quit redwings0921 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.03.09 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B0335C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.04.44 Join Tuplanolla_ [0] (n=jani@a80-186-126-4.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 17.04.52 # I need to find how to enable the USB interrupt on the S 17.05.56 # USB_IRAM_ORIGIN shouldn't matter. It's only used in usb_benchmark.c, which you don't really need. The other two are used to enable the interrupt. 17.06.21 # can anyone please change flyspray #8568 from "bug" to "patch"? 17.06.55 # Done 17.07.00 # gevaerts: I guess I need to use the USB_OTG IRQ 17.07.03 # thanks 17.07.05 Join Tuplanol1a_ [0] (n=jani@a80-186-126-4.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 17.07.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.07.33 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 17.07.47 Quit Tuplanolla_ (Client Quit) 17.07.48 Quit Tuplanol1a_ (Client Quit) 17.07.52 Quit thegeek ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 17.08.13 # soap: you there? 17.08.45 # just got up 17.08.56 # I was about to ask you, Buschel, what you wanted builds for. 17.09.36 Join Tuplanolla_ [0] (n=jani@a80-186-126-4.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 17.09.41 # ah, ok. seems like backrolling jhMikeS' spinlock change solves the HDD problems with 5G 60/80GB. can you include it in your builds? 17.09.47 # sure can 17.09.48 # * Nico_P leaves... back later 17.10.54 # I'm going to run downstairs and brew some coffee, when I come back I can build twin builds - one for pcf-06 and one for pcf-07. All targets? 17.11.07 # soap: what do you think about trying to get the DD patch to svn and do all the PCF-stuff later on in another patch-entry? 17.11.20 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.11.30 Join Sebia2 [0] (n=user@abo-215-28-68.rns.modulonet.fr) 17.12.38 Quit Tuplanolla (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.13.31 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 17.13.32 Nick Tuplanolla_ is now known as Tuplanolla (n=jani@unaffiliated/tuplanolla) 17.14.05 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 17.14.32 Quit karashata (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!") 17.15.14 # Silly question, where are the keymaps defined for the H300 non-LCD remote? 17.15.50 Quit grndslm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.16.05 # Currently the long PLAY on the WPS maps to the pitch screen. I'd prefer it to be SELECT (i.e. back to browser) 17.16.47 # I'd assume that a browser is generally more used than the pitch screen... 17.18.30 # Buschel: In general, it's a good idea to get smaller pieces of work into SVN, rather than waiting for the big commit. 17.18.35 # There's a page on the wiki somewhere that has an overview of all supported players and a summary their hardware specs, but I can't find it. Can anyone point me in the right direction ? 17.19.23 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.19.24 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 17.20.23 # gevaerts: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus is probably not the one, but might be useful? 17.20.36 # Hi rockers, i have a JBM 20 and i want to use it has system for my slug(debian/GNU) It's possible to run system rockbox and use others partitions by another system ? 17.22.19 # rockbox will search for the first FAT32 partition and try to boot from that as aI understand it 17.22.40 # pondlife: no. I found that one, and I can probably use it to find all info I want, but IIRC there's a page somewhere with a table with pictures and specs of all/most players 17.22.47 # and if i connect on usb, rockbox continu or not 17.22.57 # gevaerts: There is, but I can't see it either 17.23.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart 17.23.13 # Sebia2: I don't understand that sentence 17.23.55 # pondlife: that's the one. Thanks 17.23.55 Join grndslm [0] (n=grndslm@24-116-87-97.cpe.cableone.net) 17.23.55 # Sorry BB, 17.24.54 # BigBambi : if i connect my JBM with USB on my Slug . ROckbox can work at the same time. 17.25.23 # soap: I'll post a svn-candidate patch-version (v15) in a minute. 17.25.26 # What is a slug? And no, if you have mounted the drive over USB, rockbox cannot operate at the same time 17.25.28 # BigBambi : with officiel system i had USB connected do not disconnect. And i cannot use it 17.25.32 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 17.25.38 # Sebia2: That is always true 17.25.39 # shit :( 17.25.53 # You cannot have the OS and rockbox accesing the drive 17.26.20 # Really :( ..... http://www.nslu2-linux.org/ 17.26.37 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 17.26.45 # SThis is a slug http://www.stillhq.com/diary/pictures/nslu2.jpg 17.26.55 Quit Tuplanolla (Nick collision from services.) 17.27.08 # Hmm, the H300 non-remote LCD table has no menu button... so what's BUTTON_RC_MENU? 17.27.40 # BigBambi : On slug you don't have hard disk, that s why i would like to use my JBM 20 17.27.41 # you mean non-LCD remote? 17.27.48 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 17.27.58 # petur2: Yes 17.28.18 # The tables in keymap-h1x0_h3x0 seem very odd 17.28.42 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m170.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 17.28.45 # I only get out the remote if somebody mentions a bug ;) 17.29.11 Nick petur2 is now known as petur (n=petur@d54C6FC85.access.telenet.be) 17.29.29 # petur: Maybe I'm not understanding, any chance you could educate me? 17.29.34 # Buschel, I'm honoured you asked me, but I'm just your mule in this exercise - my opinion is the DD stuff has shown no bugs yet - and anecdotally it appears at least twice as many people are using this build as are reporting runtime tests - suggesting many are using it as their daily build. 17.30.05 # DD being device disable? 17.30.09 # yea 17.30.10 # yes 17.30.17 # jynx - owe me a coke. 17.30.17 # pondlife: nevermind me, I only have an LCD remote :/ 17.30.42 # petur: OK. Are there only 2 types of remote? 17.30.46 # i.e. LCD and non-LCD 17.30.50 # I use it as my daily build as well. It's just that it enhances my battery life. that's awesome 17.30.51 # I use Buschel's patch on the E200 with no problems. I haven't reported any runtimes as it seemed to be covered on that 17.31.07 # pondlife: Three I suppose - non-lcd, H100 lcd and H300 lcd 17.31.26 # I'll build a SVN candidate build - ask for people to abuse it - and also build the two pcf builds - ask for runtime on those? 17.31.29 # Ah, I assumed the H100 LCD and H300 LCD were the same 17.31.38 # Well, they look different certainly :) 17.31.46 # I don't know about internally 17.31.53 # OK, they probably are then 17.32.06 Quit petur ("bbl - computer hardware repairs...") 17.32.15 # It is not normally good practice to have people testing two patches at once (re: spinlock revert) - but I assume in this case it is kosher as the spinlock patch is a revert of a specific action? 17.32.18 # The non-LCD has no way to get to the browser, but it does have a way to get to the pitchscreen. This is silly IMHO. 17.32.35 # it is, soap 17.32.38 # pondlife: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/KeymapIriverHSeries 17.33.02 Join Tuplanolla [0] (n=jani@unaffiliated/tuplanolla) 17.33.17 # it's a revert of a change introduced with svn 16005, which caused the disk trashing on 5G/5.5G ipods 17.33.22 # Horscht, "it is" as in "it is kosher" or as in "it is not good practice" 17.33.35 # BigBambi: Yes, that's what it does.. but I'd like to be able to get from WPS to browser somehow 17.33.41 # it should be kosher, soap 17.33.49 # There is no STOP or SELECT on the remote 17.33.55 # Sure, I just meant that so you could see the three different remotes 17.34.07 # All of which work on both Hx0 and H3x0 17.34.28 # OK, I only need to modify the H300 non-LCD 17.34.48 # But I need educating as to how the keymap tables work 17.35.39 # There's no dedicated table for the non-LCD 17.36.31 # I don't suppose it's even possible to detect it and use a different table, is it? 17.36.52 # It just gets a subset of the other ones, hence no browse 17.36.53 # well rthere are some dedicated parts 17.36.53 # I think it is detected 17.37.14 # I see things like static const struct button_mapping button_context_quickscreen_nonlcdremote[] 17.37.30 Join seablue_ [0] (n=s@0x535c13cc.banxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 17.38.00 # line 818 case REMOTETYPE_H300_NONLCD: /* FIXME: add its tables */ 17.38.05 # But it looks like to do it nicely you might want to split the three out fully 17.38.14 # Yes 17.38.28 # I'll just do the WPS first 17.38.46 # Don't want to make a big red delta ;) 17.38.48 # HI, It's possible to drive LCD (on JBM 20) when USB is connected ? 17.38.52 Quit xushi_ () 17.38.52 # heh 17.39.08 # Sebia2: To do what? There is an image on screen sure 17.39.25 # But you cannot have disk access 17.42.03 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.42.03 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 17.44.06 # soap: v15 is up. please use it together with fs#8568 for all targets. pcf06/pcf07 are test builds only -- can you add them additionally for iPod Video 64MB? 17.44.21 # only for the iPod video 64? 17.44.26 # yes. 17.44.30 # on it. 17.44.59 # thanks so much! one build takes 28min here... 17.45.56 # I won't tell you how fast make -j3 && make zip takes here then. 17.46.10 # tell me 17.46.15 # 28 seconds? :) 17.46.27 # * Buschel sighs 17.46.32 Quit seablue (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.46.50 # nah, a bit more than that for me 17.47.40 Quit ol_schoola () 17.49.12 # still would like to see a RMAA comparison between SVN and DDv15 with its lower voltage for the WM codec supply. Maybe I'm paranoid. 17.49.17 # BigBambi: if i host my system on JBM 20, i want to use LCD to display information 17.49.26 # am I just overly paranoid? 17.49.42 # Sebia2: Then would have to write something for it which is off topic for here 17.50.22 # BigBambi: sorry my english it's good 17.50.29 # Buschel: About 1 min 10 for E200 normal from make clean here 17.50.49 # Sebia2: Your English is fine, but this channel is for Rockbox 17.51.09 # BigBambi: factor of 24 then... maybe I should _really_ buy a new PC 17.51.39 # Soap is even quicker... Mine is just on a laptop (oh, and I just did make, not a zip too) 17.52.14 # see you later -- gotta play with my son, he's crying for me :) 17.54.33 # Buschel: With ccache, 52 seconds for make && make fullzip 17.57.12 # mine takes 4 minutes :/ 17.57.21 # just make 17.59.01 # But Rockbox manage the LCD when Archos is connected on usb ? 17.59.33 # Yes? 18.00.22 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@dslb-088-072-023-004.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.01.49 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 18.02.50 Quit Siku (Nick collision from services.) 18.02.56 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 18.03.48 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 18.03.50 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 18.04.45 Quit DirkGently ("Goin' Home") 18.05.43 # Rockbox can change info on LCD when it's connected by usb ? 18.06.14 # Anyone understand the keymapping stuff well. LAST_ITEM_IN_LIST__NEXTLIST(...) and CONTEXT_CUSTOM are mystifying me. 18.06.29 # That was a question, btw 18.07.19 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 18.07.34 Join Genesis [0] (n=genesis@86.74.78.221) 18.07.37 # yop 18.10.41 # Look like reading from USB works a lot better if I lower the cpu speed on the player. 18.13.03 Quit fehmicans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.13.16 # gevaerts: does that make any sort of sense? 18.14.06 # gevaerts: are you working on getting the current work in a committable state (to have *something*) or do you want to get hi-speed working? 18.15.22 # rasher: It basically waits for the transfer to complete using a loop that just counts iterations until a maximum is reached. That's clearly not the right thing to do, but I didn't clean up that part yet. 18.17.20 # rasher: I'm basically out of ideas about high-speed, so I'm concentrating on cleanup work. I think that cleanup should also include making it non-PP specific (since the Gigabeat S uses the same USB controller). 18.19.11 # Is there an efficient way to measure time intervals to handle timeouts properly ? 18.20.25 # gevaerts: I'm back with a bit of time to try getting it to compile for the S 18.20.38 Part qweru 18.20.58 # Nico_P: great. 18.21.44 # gevaerts: you can use tick values 18.21.49 # and TIME_AFTER 18.22.19 Join star_jasmine [0] (n=arwyneve@75.108.74.16) 18.22.22 # hmm seems people are distributing an svn bootloader for the h300 on MR 18.23.30 # gevaerts: is there a handler func for the USB IRQ? 18.23.39 # Nico_P: I guess current_tick is the current value, and HZ is the number of ticks in 1 second ? 18.23.49 # yes 18.25.05 # midgey: Are you registered there? 18.25.05 # Nico_P: usb_drv_int() in usb-drv-pp502x.c 18.25.46 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 18.28.03 Join qweru [0] (n=framo@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 18.28.22 Join saratoga [0] (n=41becb3b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-80aefce885467101) 18.28.37 Join Buschel_ [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F0AA.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.28.53 Quit Buschel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.29.43 Quit qweru (Client Quit) 18.30.46 # it compiles :) 18.30.58 # Now will it work ? 18.31.10 # I somehow doubt it :p 18.32.59 # Pessimist ! 18.33.01 # * Domonoky just created his first voicefile with rbutil with cli interface :-) 18.33.06 # is something supposed to happen when I plug USB in with the SVN code? 18.33.12 # Domonoky: Great 18.34.14 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 18.34.27 # Nico_P: depends. On my sansa c250, nothing happens on the LCD (there should be a USB connect screen, but I don't get that for some reason), and the PC should see a connection. 18.34.44 # linux didn't see anything here 18.34.50 # is it worth trying with your patch? 18.35.28 # Nico_P: No. That doesn't change anything in the basic connection detect code. 18.35.43 # ok 18.35.48 # does anyone object to buschel's current patch going into SVN? 18.35.58 # the only questionable thing I saw was changing the default clock to 24MHz 18.36.28 # and he had pretty good justification for that since it significantly helps battery life on FLAC and MPC 18.36.38 # I guess someone with more low level knowledge than me will have to take a look (e.g. jhMikeS) 18.38.01 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F0AA.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.38.21 # Nico_P: I think you should get an interrupt on connect. 18.38.30 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 18.38.39 # saratoga: Does 24MHz make the UI less responsive? 18.38.51 # maybe I could add a splash in the interrupt handler to see if it gets fired 18.39.02 # (I don't have a PP target to try.) 18.39.27 # pondlife: i never noticed it on my E200, but I don't know about the ipods 18.39.46 # iPod Video would be the target to check 18.39.47 # hmm the splash is apps/ code... :/ 18.39.50 # it does not appear so. At least I didn't notice any laggs on my 5G 80GB 18.40.00 # but I only used mp3 18.40.11 # Nico_P: logf() ? 18.40.13 # i suppose at 24MHz you are boosted much of the time anyway for mp3 18.40.25 # yeah maybe 18.40.27 # I'll try 18.40.30 # not sure wether other formats lag or not 18.40.53 # saratoga: Could that not reduce battery life for MP3 ? 18.41.07 # pondlife: surprisingly it does not 18.41.27 # the PP chips appear to have a fairly linear power/clock relationship 18.41.34 # Good 18.41.44 # and we do not currently adjust the voltage when unboosted 18.42.16 # On another topic - any Iriver LCD remote users around? Please give http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8569 a try - you shouldn't notice any change. 18.42.33 # saratoga, I'm in the process of making DDv15 builds and posting them for abuse testing - do you want that done first before commit? 18.42.56 # soap: i haven't followed the thread in the forums closely so i'm not sure 18.43.01 # DDv15? 18.43.04 # do you think more testing is needed? 18.43.25 # Device Disable patch v15 AKA SVN candidate 1. 18.44.09 # ah, was just added to fs 18.44.31 # Honestly, no - but I'm building SVN+DDv15+spinlock rollback, SVN+spinlock rollback, and SVN for possible bug chasing. 18.44.36 # BigBambi: i think i'm registered there, i'll have to check 18.44.59 # hmm there seems to be absolutely no logf output, so maybe logf just doesn't work 18.44.59 # Might be worth posting a big offical disclaimer 18.45.35 # as I mentioned previously - download numbers strongly suggest many more people are using the DD builds than are reporting battery life numbers in the thread - suggesting a large userbase already - and no verifiable bugs reported. 18.45.47 Part pondlife 18.45.58 # soap: yeah i think this will be the most tested patch ever committed 18.46.24 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 18.46.41 Nick Zeph0x is now known as K4rP4D (n=KrPD@bzq-79-178-43-249.red.bezeqint.net) 18.46.41 # regardless i'd like to get the go ahead from amiconn or one of the other ipod developers before we change their clock speed code around 18.47.26 Quit Buschel_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.47.47 # haha usb_detect for the S is just "return 0" 18.48.14 # no wonder nothing happens 18.49.53 # Nico_P: you might try borrowing from usb-fw-pp502x.c 18.49.54 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096622343.dsl.bell.ca) 18.50.21 # indeed. did you change it in your patch? 18.50.29 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.51.15 # hmm thing is usb_init_device is empty and I have no idea what's needed 18.51.31 # same for usb_enable. 18.51.57 # Nico_P: I just removed the reboot stuff from usb_enable() 18.52.49 # Nico_P: and added somethingas well : usb_enable needs to call usb_core_init() if on==1, else usb_core_exit() 18.53.23 # gevaerts: usb_enable and usb_init_device are simply empty for the S. 18.53.34 # I guess nothing can work without usb_device_init? 18.54.18 # BigBambi: how does this sound http://www.pastebin.ca/897582 18.56.13 # midgey: Sounds fine, but I think you missed "flashing" after during in the second sentence :) 18.56.37 # indeed I did 18.56.40 # "restore the device had something gone wrong." sounds a bit like broken grammer? 18.56.53 # no 18.56.56 # perfect english 18.57.00 # Nico_P: probably not. I'm not sure what's really needed there. Maybe svn blame can tell you who to ask what it does. 18.57.07 # then my english is broken 18.57.13 # it might sound broken to non native speakers, DerPapst 18.57.22 # I also added a part about including an MD5 sum 18.57.34 # DerPapst: Not, that English is fine 18.57.40 # s/not/no 18.58.02 # ok.. i'd probably replave had with "in case"... but whatever. 18.58.11 # *replace 18.58.13 # That would work to 18.58.18 # *too 18.58.29 # and sound less broken to non native speakers :-P 18.58.49 # You would have to change gone to went as well 18.59.11 # yupp 18.59.21 # "restore the device in case something gone wrong." is horrible english 18.59.31 # engrish 18.59.50 # i forgot about "went".. i'm sorry 19.00.03 # * DerPapst got only a 4 in english at school 19.00.18 # thou shalt be horribly punished 19.00.36 # * DerPapst runs away and hides 19.00.49 # DerPapst: Forgiven :) 19.01.44 Part Sebia2 19.02.22 # * DerPapst unhides 19.02.27 # thanks :-) 19.03.11 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 19.03.33 Part idnar 19.07.01 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-98-216-170-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 19.07.29 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A5271.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.07.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.08.04 Quit conando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.10.54 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.227.243) 19.11.54 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.12.36 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.17.12 Quit samarskyrider (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.25.12 Part xushi 19.29.39 # grrrr - the [list] and [li] tags are broken on the forums. 19.29.43 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 19.32.15 Quit magenpie ("uh-oh...iceberg failure") 19.32.58 Join GodEater [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 19.41.18 Quit karashata (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC") 19.47.50 # from the wiki page I'm given to understand the button driver for the beast is now done 19.48.01 # is the routine for powering it off not done then ? :) 19.48.30 # I fixed some timeout stuff, so now UMS is a lot more stable. I still get resets, but only about one every 100 or 200 MB instead of every 30MB 19.49.36 # excellent work that man :) 19.49.41 # btw, thanks for the wave :) 19.49.46 # what causes the resets anyway? 19.49.54 # gevaerts: how is write support progressing? Is it safe to try? 19.50.18 # * GodEater can't wait for UMS to be available on the S, MTP is so painful 19.50.21 Quit barrywardell () 19.50.26 # GodEater: Are you pimping for waves now? If so, *waves* 19.50.42 # bluebrother: I copied about 1GB of data to it since this morning without any corruption 19.50.43 # BigBambi: doesn't count - you're only allowed to wave to log readers :) 19.51.16 # Well I saw it earlier, but didn't realise how much it meant to you :) 19.51.22 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 19.51.27 Quit xushi (Remote closed the connection) 19.51.27 # cool :) 19.51.35 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 19.51.41 # * Domonoky has now a rbutilqt which can install bootloader, rockbox, fonts, doomfiles, voicefile, and create voicefiles and talkfiles.... uninstall and themes are missing :-) 19.51.46 # it didn't really - but gevaerts was the only one to do it, so I thought I'd acknowledge it :) 19.51.58 # :) 19.52.11 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 19.52.13 # Domonoky: so the next thing on your list is to make it support installing over mtp :) 19.52.13 # saratoga: At least some of them are caused by the transfer timing out too soon, so that's mostly tuning. 19.52.15 # * Domonoky means a rbutilqt with cli interface :-) 19.52.30 # Domonoky: just wanted to ask this ... rbutilqt can do this since quite a while ;-) 19.52.54 # what do you think about creating a new release before the cli gets release? 19.52.56 # what does the cli give you ? 19.53.13 # are there much changes to the core stuff itself? 19.53.25 # console interface, especially for blinds and visually impaired.. 19.53.34 # ah ha - that's very useful! 19.53.57 # bluebrother: not much changes to the core, its mostly in a seperate dir.. :-) 19.54.40 # great. So we could add those minimal changes soon and create a new release? 19.54.52 # and after that bugfix the cli and release 1.1? 19.54.57 # yes.. 19.55.08 # btw, how does the cli look? 19.55.49 # i will commit those minimal shortly, and try to make a static test version of the cli interface 19.56.43 # tell me when we can create a new release 19.58.02 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.58.15 Join fehmicans [0] (n=canavar@88.253.16.21) 19.58.25 # I should probably start adding version numbers to my patches 19.58.44 Join Buschel_ [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F0AA.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.58.49 Quit Buschel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.59.01 # :) 19.59.26 # bluebrother: it would be good to have some testers of the svn version. But we could make a release next few days.. 20.01.24 # well, I just posted a new binary of svn (as requested in the forms) 20.02.16 # hopefully we get some reports for that 20.02.56 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.07.22 # bluebrother: FS#8571 :-) 20.11.07 # Domonoky: missed the attachment? 20.13.47 # hypothetical question: 20.14.01 # assume for the sake of argument that the gigabeat S port is complete 20.14.11 # ... 20.14.11 # how are we going to manage the install 20.14.47 # currently, we have to send a patched firmware to it over mtp just to get it to boot our code 20.14.48 # bluebrother: ups :-) 20.14.59 # Well, if the bootloader has USB, a sendfirm based tool to patch the bootloader, then rockbox usb mode to install build? 20.15.12 # the bootloader as it stands at the moment (iiuc) looks for a file with a given header in it to load 20.15.17 # that file has to be sent over mtp too 20.15.48 # I can't see anyway to get a complete ".rockbox" directory sent to the device as the first part of the install 20.15.56 # Me neither 20.15.59 # how do you send this firmware over mtp ? 20.16.13 # we have to load it in three stages I think 20.16.22 # unless our firmware patch can enable a UMS mode too 20.16.26 # Hence make to bootloader look for rockbox.gigabeat like normal but give it USB so we can use bootloader USB to transfer the builf 20.16.37 # If possible of course :) 20.16.48 # and at that point, I think, this will be the first rockbox install where we have to install the bootloader first ? 20.16.55 # Domonoky: there are ui_*.h files included. Is that intentional? 20.17.00 # Probably, but I see no other way 20.17.14 # Domonoky: code is in utils/MTP/ if you're interested 20.17.25 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 20.17.41 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.17.46 # bluebrother: no, not intended, but doesnt hurt.. 20.17.55 # oh, and btw: I think we could make the cli interface a folder parallel to rbutilqt, i.e. something like rbutil/rbutilcli 20.17.56 # otherwise, we'll have to load the patched firmware to get our bootloader on device, send a "raw" rockbox.gigabeat to get UMS, and then send the rest of the files over that way 20.18.13 # discuss 20.18.21 # bluebrother: yes, would be possible.. 20.18.26 # and then put a second project file to rbutil/ 20.18.35 # looks somewhat cleaner IMO. 20.18.39 # Can we not have a bootloader USB mode with UMS to send the whole build at once? 20.19.07 # BigBambi: I don't know - I assume we can - but I'm not certain of course :) 20.19.19 # me neither 20.19.50 # In which case we just need to transfer the patched firmware (+ bootloader), then use bootloader UMS mode to copy the build over 20.19.58 # I assume a "release" bootloader will default to RB too 20.19.58 # bluebrother: sure, will remember it for the nex rbutil cli session :-) 20.20.22 # which means first boot of the device will fail 20.20.23 # GodEater: I would certainly hope so 20.20.29 # Yeah 20.20.31 # nice. Please keep posting to the tracker entry -- I want to watch progress on my end too ;-) 20.20.38 # People will have to read the instructions! 20.20.43 # and leave newbies that didn't read that far upset :) 20.20.55 # Their own fault to be honest 20.21.04 # * GodEater thinks that this hypothetical bootloader should have an "installation mode" 20.21.12 # I still can't believe people replace the firmware on their devices without reading first 20.21.20 # Despite all the evidence to the contrary 20.21.21 # i.e., if it doesn't detect a .rockbox directory, then it needs to tell the user 20.21.43 # not just say "couldn't load rockbox.gigabeat" 20.21.43 # Well, much like the current bootloaders "can't find rockbox.ipod" etc 20.21.52 # What is the difference? 20.22.01 # user friendliness 20.22.01 # Just a more verbose message? 20.22.05 # it won't matter to you or I 20.22.29 # but it would be nicer if at that stage it said something like "New installation: please plug device into your PC and run rbutil" 20.22.31 # or some such 20.22.51 # Something like ".rockbox directory not found, please connect to PC and install build" (but better written) 20.23.08 # I guess we can work on that bit 20.23.22 # yeah 20.23.30 # But I think the pronciple is the easiest way 20.23.34 # but again this will be the first rockbox install which requires a disconnect and reboot of the device to get a working build 20.23.48 # I don't see a better way 20.24.06 # nor I currently 20.24.07 # Unless we improve libmtp to deal properly with directories etc. 20.24.12 # that's not possible 20.24.17 # MTP is file system agnostic 20.24.20 # and is designed to be so 20.24.23 # Windows manages it 20.24.29 # does it ? 20.24.34 # how do you know ? 20.24.38 # i.e. I can create directories in windows 20.24.50 # Not libmtp in particular, I mean MTP in general 20.24.53 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.24.55 # no - you can create things which windows displays as directories 20.25.00 # ah, OK 20.25.05 # there's no saying that's how they're presented on the device 20.25.12 # fair enough 20.25.15 # should you connect to the disk directly 20.25.20 Join asdrubal [0] (n=abc@cpe-76-190-210-165.neo.res.rr.com) 20.25.23 # In that case there is no choice 20.25.38 # I only say this because this is how I've understood what I've read of the MTP spec 20.25.39 # bootloader USB mode.. :-) 20.25.50 # That is what I have been saying... 20.26.04 # yes I think you're right 20.26.05 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet16.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 20.26.11 Quit csc` ("Powering Off") 20.26.16 # I was just thinking it through 20.26.24 # and seeing if I'd missed anything obvious 20.26.32 # Yeah, needs some thinking about alright 20.27.05 # I just don't see a way of transferring a build properly without a rockbox USB mode 20.27.25 # I don't think there is a way 20.27.32 # And there is no point buggering about transferring a rockbox.gigabeat if people only then need to connect to install a full build 20.27.39 # Just do the whole lot in the bootloader 20.27.39 # indeed 20.27.48 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.227.243) 20.27.52 # well 20.28.09 # the other option of course is to implement an MTP "stack" in Rockbox as well as UMS 20.28.10 # :) 20.28.13 # urgh 20.28.15 # :) 20.28.36 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 20.28.36 # I cordially dislike MTP 20.28.50 # me too :) 20.29.10 # my files go where *I* say, not where some arbitrary algorithm decides :) 20.29.25 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.29.27 # Yep 20.29.36 # and they stay called what I call them!!! 20.29.36 # Just give me a damn filesystem and be done with it 20.31.12 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.33.06 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.37.10 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 20.39.05 # Domonoky: nice work with the cli :) 20.41.25 Quit barrywardell () 20.41.31 Quit star_jasmine () 20.42.24 # bluebrother: thx :-) 20.43.44 Quit homielowe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.44.46 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 20.47.22 # What is the actual resolution of udelay() ? 20.49.24 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.50.42 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust498.brig.cable.ntl.com) 20.51.04 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.53.45 Quit goffa (Remote closed the connection) 20.54.45 # gevearts: I wouldn't use that on gigabeat S 20.55.31 # jhMikeS: use what ? 20.56.28 # the udelay implementation. I'm guessing you were working on MSC there? 20.56.59 # jhMikeS: I'm on sansa. Anyway I don't really need it. 20.58.01 # ah...I just scanned the history really fast :) On PP it's +/- 1uS anyway. 20.59.06 # jhMikeS: Nico_P was looking at getting MSC to work on gigabeat S 20.59.28 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 21.00.33 Quit tessarakt (Success) 21.00.55 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180073155.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.04.43 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.05.12 # I think FS#8562 is now ready for real testing. It still needs cleaning up, and it still only works in full speed, but it should work. Note that I've only tested on linux. 21.07.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.07.38 # gevaerts: time to modify the bootloader as well? 21.08.06 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.08.56 Quit goffa (Remote closed the connection) 21.09.00 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 21.09.32 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.09.48 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e176236055.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.10.50 # rasher: there is still an issue apparently on e280 (see FS) that I don't really understand, I don't know if SDHC works or if the problems you had with it are still there (I only have 2GB cards), and the SD slot probably doesn't work on windows (pixelma had some problems with it) 21.11.06 # I'll attempt sdhc 21.11.10 # what happens with the higher speed modes? 21.11.49 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.12.51 # jhMikeS: it doesn't transmit 512-byte packets correctly (it stops after 95 bytes), and smaller packet sizes are not allowed for bulk at high speed. 21.13.07 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A5271.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.13.34 # btw, one thing I notices is the iMX.31 sdhc controller seems to be similar to the PP one as well but not identical. I'm wondering about a similar situation for the OTG controller. 21.13.54 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 21.13.56 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.14.05 # jhMikeS: there is a similar problem at full speed with 64 byte packets that makes it zero three bytes at the end of every 32-byte block, but we can work around that by using 16 byte packets 21.14.25 # jhMikeS: That's very much possible. 21.14.28 # gevaerts: sdhc is still quite thoroughly broken 21.14.46 # rasher: what does it do ? 21.15.06 # Three lines repeat in dmesg: 21.15.07 # attempt to access beyond end of device 21.15.07 # sdb: rw=0, want=11940744, limit=11661 21.15.07 # Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logical block 1491568 21.15.43 # rasher: what size does it report on enumeration ? 21.15.50 # gevaerts: some sort of race condition between the controller and writing data perhaps? 21.16.06 # gevaerts: 6 MB 21.16.07 # * jhMikeS has no real idea without having had much involvement here 21.16.10 # Which is slightly off 21.16.12 Quit BitTorment (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.16.43 Quit Arathis (Client Quit) 21.16.49 Join BitTorment [0] (n=martin@87-194-94-92.bethere.co.uk) 21.17.27 # rasher: then that's probably exactly the same problem that Tri Nguyen reports on e280. 21.18.07 # perhaps a clocking issue on the module too 21.18.37 # gevaerts: Anything above 4GB? 21.18.59 # rasher: it uses card_get_info() to get its data, which seems to work up to 4GB, but not higher. 21.19.25 # The Rockbox Info screen reports the card's size correctly 21.19.37 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.19.37 # jhMikeS: possibly. I'd like to see USB-related register settings from the OF somewhere. 21.19.51 Join conando [0] (i=Soeren@dslb-084-060-165-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.19.53 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.20.01 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.20.09 Join linuxstb___ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.20.17 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 21.20.22 Nick linuxstb___ is now known as linuxstb (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.20.38 # did you try disabling/enabling interrupts in certain time-critical sections if any exist? 21.21.31 # jhMikeS: not yet. What's interesting is that the errors are very consistent. 21.22.16 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 21.22.19 Join linuxstb___ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.22.22 # the tick could intrude on something in normal thread context. 21.22.45 # so could the USB interrupt for that matter 21.23.12 Quit linuxstb_ (Remote closed the connection) 21.23.19 # jhMikeS: the USB interrupt shouldn't fire at those times. 21.23.21 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 21.23.36 # Of course it ight be another interrupt. 21.24.00 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 21.24.01 Nick linuxstb___ is now known as linuxstb (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.24.14 # * linuxstb apologies for the spam... 21.27.30 # rasher: I suspect that the info screen might get its info from the fat driver 21.27.52 # Is get_card_info used anywhere in Rockbox? 21.28.09 # the debug screen 21.28.22 # rasher: can you check what disk info in the debug menu shows ? 21.28.48 # Just a moment.. I forgot to actually unzip the build, so I had a bit of the old filesystem corruption.. 21.29.56 Join Phill [0] (n=51aef816@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ad6a6eef7ecb5641) 21.33.58 # Which debug screen should I look for? 21.34.20 # Disk info? 21.34.21 # gavarts: debug screen reports blocks=0xB3C000 for builtin 6GB, and 0x2D8D for 6GB SDHC. Is that what you are looking for? 21.34.23 # rasher: View disk info 21.35.10 # 4GB builtin: Blocks: 0x77D800 21.35.28 # 6GB sdhc: Blocks: 0x002D8D 21.35.37 # That sounds broken 21.35.57 # gevaerts: that would seem to fit with the reported 6MB 21.36.01 # Yes it does. 21.36.41 # Anyone here familiar with that code ? 21.38.39 Join Geeky123_ [0] (n=colin@bas12-montrealak-1167976327.dsl.bell.ca) 21.38.50 Quit Geeky123_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.40.01 # Seems jhMikeS is responsible for large parts of ata-c200_e200.c which might be the culprit? 21.40.27 # How is size detected? 21.40.47 # * jhMikeS is getting blamed for everything these days 21.41.05 # and praised 21.42.10 # FS#7634 is where SDHC support was added. I assume only sdhc use the /* CSD version 2.0 */ section of the code. 21.42.24 # Disabling interrupts does not fix the high-speed issue 21.42.32 # Llorean: have to calculate it from the blocks/banks info 21.44.43 # or is this about SD vs. SDHC? that's inferred from the fact that SDHC responds to SEND_IF_COMMAND 21.44.46 Join GrooveStix [0] (n=chatzill@76.226.160.43) 21.44.58 # *SEND_IF_COND 21.45.19 # hey folks, I got 10GB Gigabeat and I am reformatting it. Should I pick FAT32 or NTFS? 21.45.44 # reiser4 21.46.10 # GrooveStix: FAT32 21.46.16 # Rockbox only supports FAT32. 21.46.22 # cool :) 21.46.24 # tessarakt: Please give serious answers in this channel. 21.46.32 # sorry 21.47.40 # jhMikeS: I really want it to be SD vs SDHC, but I thought they said it happened on >4GB internal storage devices too. 21.47.59 # The problem occurs at least on 6GB sdhc and 8GB internal, but doesn't seem to happen on 6GB internal or 4GB internal 21.48.15 # Hm. 21.48.42 # Llorean: What's "it"? One thing I didn't add was the SDHC support. 21.50.17 Quit seablue_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.50.52 Quit jurrie_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.51.14 # Hrm, a readout of the debug screen for 8GB internal would be useful perhaps? 21.51.40 # Do you guys think MicroSD HC is density limited? 21.51.51 # Like what do you think microSD HC will max out at 21.52.05 # jhMikeS: I meant, "I really want the problem to be SDHC support" because then I can hope that it'll turn out to be something really obvious. :-P 21.52.06 Quit GrooveStix ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 21.52.19 # asdrubal: That really has nothing to do with Rockbox. 21.52.39 # I know Im just wondering 21.52.43 # Sorry to throw you off topic 21.52.43 # jhMikeS: Barrywardell added SDHC right? 21.52.56 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 21.52.59 # asdrubal: Please read the link in the channel topic 21.54.11 # rasher or Phill: can you see what microSD version is given for both internal and SD ? If I understand the code correctly that should give a hint. 21.54.49 # Llorean: I think so 21.54.58 # gevaerts: I think the error may be in ata-c200_e200.c line 698. The v2 spec has a fixed multiplier of 2^10, but it is missing from this line, where number of blocks is calculated. 21.55.35 # Phill: that sounds correct anyway. 21.55.58 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 21.56.23 # gevaerts: The top line? SD04G? Rev 8. (the ? is a box) 21.56.41 # rasher: I the line starting with microSD: 21.56.58 # Mine says v1.0-1.2 21.57.17 # anyway I would say 21.57.23 # Same for both, here 21.57.36 # ... that Phill most probably spotted it. 21.57.58 # Sure sounds quite likely 21.58.07 Join raky [0] (n=raky@p548192D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.58.09 # * gevaerts has an enter key with some kind of magnetic powers 21.59.01 # Can you check if it fixes the issue for you ? 22.00.05 # gevaerts: compiling now... 22.00.08 # currcard->numblocks = c_size; => currcard->numblocks = c_size << 10; ? 22.00.16 # I'm far too slow.. 22.00.45 # gevaerts: works perfectly now :) 22.01.08 # Great. I guess that that can be fixes directlyin svn by someone ? 22.01.27 # Yeah 22.03.15 # to use every communikation channel: RBUTIL needs testing. windows gui binary: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rbutil/rbutilqt-v1.0.4pre.zip windows cli binary : http://www.b23.org/~domonoky/rbutilcli.exe for details see forums or mailinglist :-) 22.05.48 # Domonoky: Question: will the CLI version allow command line parameters such that I could type something along the lines of "rbutil --target=IP4G --patch=/mount/IPOD --install" to install the latest build? (Or does it offer such functionality already, and ignore my random guessing about target names)? 22.06.26 # Alright, I'll commit that change to ata-c200_e200.c (wonderful that the least competent of us holdes that power).. the << 10 is correct, right? It sure is working at least.. 22.06.33 # Llorean: at the moment it doesnt have parameters, its has a cli menu .. 22.07.06 # but it could be possible to add parameters to shorten the needed input.. 22.07.15 # Domonoky: I figured it had a menu. :) I just kinda like the idea of parameters as another option for using it. 22.07.37 # * rasher risks it 22.07.38 # But that's just me, and that's hardly a priority or anything. I was just curious if that was in the works at all. 22.07.54 # The bootloader doesn't compile because it misses ata_get_identify() in usb_storage. Probably the best solution would be to disable usb_storage entirely for the bootloader. How do I do this ? 22.08.08 # the only problem with parameters are, that there are mny config options, so many parameters.. 22.08.29 # rasher: yep. works for me, and taken from the spec. 22.08.50 # gevaerts: What do you mean by "misses ata_get_identify()" ? The function isn't being compiled? 22.08.58 # Domonoky: Well leave it to another day, then. 22.08.59 # Phill: I forgot to credit you for pointing it out in my commit message. 22.09.20 # I think we would like a bootloader USB mode to work. 22.09.31 # Especially if flashable bootloaders are in the future 22.09.40 # Llorean: yup, lets first get this cli menu ready, then we will think forward .. :-) 22.10.11 # Domonoky: perhaps just the simple options/actions should be available through commandline switches anyway? 22.10.31 # bootloader USB (on PP) requires enabling interrupts, which doesn't happen atm. 22.11.09 # rasher: I'll forgive you! 22.11.43 # rasher: feel free to improve the cli interface, the code is in the tracker :-) 22.11.46 # Let it be publically known that Phill is the genious, and I'm merely a messenger. 22.11.57 # I "fixed" it now by only defining USB_STORAGE in usb_core.c for non-bootloader builds. The bootloader gets USB_CHARGING_ONLY. 22.12.04 # rasher: In my mind, the only two options really needed are "install" and "bootloader install", with "device" and "location" for those. I know it's boiling things down a lot, but at the same time who's going to barebones it if they don't want to boil things down? 22.12.28 # Llorean: I agree. 22.13.10 # Of-by-1024.. that's a new one 22.13.30 # Llorean: + proxy and cache options, and which build to install (archived/daily/current) ... 22.14.33 Join GrooveStix [0] (n=chatzill@76.226.160.43) 22.15.09 # Domonoky: To me at least, I wouldn't mind it always installing the current when done like that, so long as the menu is available for further configuration when other things are needed. 22.15.20 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@137-015-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 22.15.28 # hey people! I was just asking about formatting here, but I gots another question fer yew! Is it smart to defrag my Gigabeat? 22.15.44 Quit Buschel_ () 22.16.19 Join thgz [0] (n=thgz@dsl-lprgw5-fe5fdc00-169.dhcp.inet.fi) 22.16.31 # GrooveStix: I thought you just formatted it? 22.16.48 # yes, I am talking in general 22.17.14 # as in, defraging from time to time 22.17.23 # Hi 22.17.43 Join Bagder [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 22.18.09 # Having some problems with RB compiling... When I run makefile, it says that can't create sysfont.h 22.18.27 Join austriancoder_ [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 22.18.30 # GrooveStix: defragging is only necessary if you regulary remove and then add new content to the device 22.18.31 # linuxstb: any ideas? 22.18.39 # otherwise the files will remain stationary on the disk, and not become fragmented 22.18.44 # Using cygwin. Checked the path variable; all ok. Removed and re-downloaded from svn; Problem still exist. 22.20.07 # GodEater: I understand, I am only interested how essential it is... I guess it shoukd be snappier after I defrag. The reason I am asking is I defraged last night and it seems I have a HDD damage, so I was wondering if the defraging did it, or not 22.20.24 # unlikely 22.20.48 # and as I say, defragging won't make any difference at all if you just copy stuff onto it, and never delete things 22.20.50 # sansapatcher at least has no problems updating the bootloader over the rockbox-ums support 22.21.26 Quit Phill ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.21.31 # GodEater: alright. that means - defraging is for me. 22.23.37 # * DerPapst is *very* ipressed about gevaerts progress... 22.24.14 # * Bagder seconds that 22.24.20 # thgz: try adding V=1 in front of your make command 22.25.51 # Rasher: Oh thanks, why I didn't do that before... 22.26.48 # * gevaerts has done ehci work before, which made this a lot easier 22.27.34 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-71-203-172-58.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 22.27.58 Join anid [0] (n=54ad210b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6eeff78666e5808a) 22.28.02 Quit RoC_MasterMind (Client Quit) 22.28.05 Join karl_ [0] (n=karl@c-24-11-144-123.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.28.14 # hi di ho 22.29.05 # hello 22.29.17 # is there somewhere that describes the process of porting a game to rockbox? 22.29.17 # whats up men? 22.29.27 # what is keyclick?! 22.30.12 # GrooveStix: When you press a key you'll hear a click 22.30.23 # :)) 22.30.31 # Don't turn that swith on on PortalPlayer based devices 22.30.34 # karl_: see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoWritePlugins and the source of other plugins :-) 22.30.43 # thanks very much 22.30.49 # I just saw it, i guess it's new eh? 22.31.01 # keyclick has been around for a while 22.31.04 # or maybe beep 22.31.08 # a couple of weeks or so 22.31.09 # mine always had beep 22.31.13 # not necessarily clock 22.31.14 # I'm not a fan of it :) 22.31.14 # click* 22.31.25 # beep always irritated me 22.31.39 # yes, mine had a beep 22.31.46 # and yes, I second karl_ 22.31.50 # Well, got the following (that's sho short I think that can pasted here): 22.32.12 # o.O 22.32.19 # * DerPapst already sacred 22.32.27 # Not... I'll upload that to pastebin. 22.32.49 Quit austriancoder (Connection timed out) 22.35.01 # * rasher copies hundreds of megabytes to sdhc 22.35.07 # Let's see how that goes 22.35.15 # * Bagder holds breath 22.35.28 # Bagder: You may want to rethink that - remember it's at full speed 22.35.38 # * Bagder slowly turns blue 22.35.42 # Which is bizarrely slower than hi-speed. 22.35.47 # Ok, here it is: 22.35.47 # http://www.pastebin.ca/897824 22.35.49 # Well done there, USB consortium 22.36.16 # interesting naming scheme 22.36.26 # make full speed run slower than high speed 22.36.28 # where can i download the sansa media converter? 22.36.40 # anid: ask sandisk 22.36.42 # i just found out my sansa is a v2 22.36.49 # so no rockbox :( 22.36.55 # rasher: the next one will be "super-speed" 22.37.17 # light speed? 22.37.21 # Anid: Didn't you get that software with your unit? 22.37.28 # uber speed 22.37.31 # thgz: convbdf fails to create that file there 22.37.37 # thgz, anid on topic please 22.37.49 # gevaerts: 4.0 will include exxxtreme speed, I hope 22.38.05 Join star_jasmine [0] (n=arwyneve@75.108.74.16) 22.38.43 # hi everyone... I have a question. your rbuilt tool that was posted on the rockbox list... is that just for linux users? stupid I know... you said it was a windows binary 22.38.50 # I'd like to help if I can 22.38.52 # No... 22.38.56 # Bigbambi: Causing to manage a heart attack to you again :P... Sorry, I try to keep on topic 22.39.00 Quit jhulst (No route to host) 22.39.07 # thgz: I'll live :) 22.39.25 # Bigbambi: Great 22.39.28 # sorry for my disturbance 22.39.39 # star_jasmine: It can be compiled for Windows, Mac OS X and linux. Domonoky just posted Windows binaries 22.39.49 # rasher: probably 22.40.36 # Bagder: Found that out, can't however understand why 22.40.38 # when I tried installing it, it said I was missing a .dll file. I"m not sure which. I'll get the message again 22.41.09 # star_jasmine: on which one ? cli version oder the normal gui