--- Log for 12.02.108 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.12 # amiconn: yeah, and there we even thought we were pretty lenient in the first place... 00.00.15 # The USB thread has a fairly big stack - which it actually needs, but that's not obvious 00.00.31 # amiconn: I have a function that makes rockbox hang : http://pastebin.ca/900492 00.00.57 # amiconn. If I enable the line that's commented out it hangs, otherwise not. 00.01.10 # It only uses little stack - until you unplug usb again after having it connected. Then the USB thread is responsible for remounting the volume, and that remount needs quite some stack 00.01.39 # Lol this chess engine is pretty good :) 00.01.51 # gevaerts: td_array is global? 00.02.17 # td_array might be accessed by hardware, but I also tried a different struct that mirrors it without any difference 00.02.22 # preglow: yes 00.02.25 # weird... 00.02.38 # iram? ram? 00.02.52 # hangs or do you get an exception? 00.02.59 # gevaerts: can it be written by HW? 00.03.40 # Nico_P: it can, but bit shouldn't be at that moment 00.03.43 # preglow: ram 00.03.47 # preglow: hangs 00.04.14 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.04.15 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 00.04.16 # Are there stats on how many hours rockbox gives me with c240? 00.04.49 # gevaerts: a wild guess, but maybe the var needs to be volatile 00.05.49 # i don't see how that could change anything 00.05.52 # there's no reloading happening 00.06.58 # td_array is actually an UNCACHED_ADDR of the real array, which is 32 byte aligned 00.10.17 # The full patch which show the problem is at http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/test.diff 00.14.31 # That patch is actually the first step to enable simultaneous USB transfers (which we will need at some point and maybe already need now) 00.14.56 Join weezerle [0] (n=weezerle@dslb-088-075-095-004.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.15.37 # bleh... the live log pearl scrpit doesn'T like the last link. it inserts span tags in the url too. 00.16.24 Quit conando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.16.27 # * scorche|w hands DerPapst a new keyboard 00.16.38 # DerPapst: That's because that patch is somehow broken 00.17.32 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.17.57 # the patch is fine. the pearl script gets confused if a nick is in the url. 00.18.09 # * gevaerts wishes the patch were fine 00.18.42 # * gevaerts also considers checking if the nicks http and www are still available 00.18.54 # the url looks like http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/test.diff 00.20.51 # Ah - it's hilighting the nick 00.20.57 # * gevaerts warns DerPapst to be careful with that kind of thing. He might trigger a recursive explosion of corrupted urls 00.21.19 # rasher: yes... but also in the href... 00.21.29 # gevaerts: hehe 00.21.31 # Yeah, it hilights nicks in speech 00.21.32 # JdGordon|w/Buschel - added: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8596 00.21.54 # The nick-matching regexp should probably be stricter 00.22.06 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=Miranda@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 00.22.55 # or just drop that in hrefs.... 00.23.33 # DerPapst: I doubt it's specifically searching hrefs 00.23.41 # It just fails to exclude them 00.23.42 # the srcipt fails also when you post 2 revision numbers with a r infront... such as r161234 and r165678 00.24.12 # nope... works fine 00.24.17 # ah, wahtever :-P 00.24.34 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.25.17 # * DerPapst shuts up 00.25.31 # * gevaerts speculates that his latest work might solve the reset issue, in the hope that this will lead more people to check what's wrong with it 00.26.22 Quit weezerle ("...und tschüss!") 00.28.25 # * amiconn prefers the raw text log over this script "enhanced" version anyway 00.30.11 # * DerPapst loves the script with all its pretty colors ;-) 00.31.04 # though the raw log is better if one greps something... 00.31.22 # It loads way slower than the text version, hides away quite some information by default, and it doesn't store its setting as a default 00.32.24 # So I always have to click "sans serif" and "Joins: show". Annoying. 00.32.29 # it's been always fast enough for me... but the last one is annoying indeed 00.33.41 # It could store the settings in a cookie... 00.34.36 # Regarding the slowness - the logs for previous days are okay, but the live log lags quite a lot sometimes 00.34.38 # iirc it does that for old logs, but not the live fed 00.35.07 # ^ that being saving the settings 00.35.11 # not sure though 00.35.44 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.35.53 # yeah. sometime to takes ~1min to load to the current postition but that isn'T a biggie for me. 00.36.03 # s/to/it 00.36.29 Quit ender` (" On the other hand, you have different fingers.") 00.39.59 Join madspin [0] (n=madspin@host86-133-194-232.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 00.40.24 # If only the raw log would wrap the text 00.40.45 # I wonder if there's a firefox extension to wrap text/plain content 00.40.49 Join madspin_ [0] (n=madspin@host86-133-194-232.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 00.41.12 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 00.41.19 # petur: Do you see any reason why the GPIO values are first put into variables, and then printed? 00.41.23 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 00.41.33 # amiconn: none 00.42.49 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 00.42.51 # I would just put the GPIOx_INPUT_VAL macros into the snprintf calls 00.42.54 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 00.42.58 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 00.43.03 # mmm $90 for 8GB microsd 00.43.35 # * JdGordon|w got 6gb ones for $55 00.43.46 # Actually, several other targets also use temporary variables - but only for GPIO, like for PP502x. For other registers, the macros are put into the snprintf calls 00.44.06 # JdGordon|w, wow, where? 00.44.23 # amazon had em on special 00.44.24 # That seems rather inconsistent to me, and I can't imagine why it's done like that 00.44.28 # snatched me 2 00.44.28 # JdGordon|w, lolz 00.44.40 # Im gonna scope out the amazon hookup 00.44.54 # amiconn: somebody didn't care enough I guess 00.45.07 # asdrubal: in the future keep those comments in #rockbox-community...you are already in there.. 00.45.51 # okie doke 00.47.35 # Actually, all archs handled in dbg_ports() directly do it like that... 00.58.52 Quit madspin_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.59.18 # Hi folks... I think I have done something bad 00.59.29 # I tried to reinstall rockbox on my Gigabeat 00.59.53 # and it wasn't loading so I reinstalled the existing firmware 01.00.11 # and now I cannot even get a USB filesystem :| 01.00.16 Part madspin ("Leaving") 01.00.20 Join madspin [0] (n=madspin@host86-133-194-232.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 01.01.15 # What I guess I'm trying to determine... Is whether there is any other way to reflash the firmware (without having access to the USB filesystem..) 01.04.51 Quit Zom ("leaving") 01.05.31 # * DerPapst is having problems compiling rockbox for his ipod video.... 01.05.43 # i rebuilt the arm compiler 01.05.53 # and now i get something like this: 01.05.54 # alarm_menu.c:97: error: 'LANG_ALARM_MOD_TIME' undeclared (first use in this function) 01.06.03 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 01.06.15 # and some other undeclared stuff too :-/ 01.06.26 # make clean and reconfigure... 01.06.47 # i've started in an empty dir 01.06.54 # i can try again though 01.07.24 Quit obo ("bye") 01.07.46 # hmm, maybe it's something else then... 01.08.25 # let's see what happens... 01.08.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.09.43 # all the missing things where LANG_* 01.09.49 Nick cendres is now known as ashes (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 01.12.51 # hhmmm... nope 01.12.56 # still the same :-/ 01.13.35 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-98-216-170-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 01.14.44 # where are the LANG_* thingies defined? 01.15.06 # apps/lang/english.lang is the mater list 01.15.39 Join ryran [0] (n=ryran@adsl-157-119-57.clt.bellsouth.net) 01.16.03 # They're defined in lang.h iirc 01.16.11 # (which is generated at build time) 01.16.19 # Try looking at lang.h in your build dir 01.16.31 # ok 01.16.44 Quit JdGordon|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01.17.09 # isn't this a side-effect of the build process failing somewhere? 01.17.50 # Sounds like it 01.18.07 # those constants are missing there 01.18.17 # int the lang.h file 01.18.23 # *in 01.19.37 # DerPapst: is this a vanilla build? 01.20.23 # only 3 additional plugins and changed buttons for the sim 01.20.36 # nothing changed at the core 01.20.52 # You'd think.. 01.21.03 # The build system can be somewhat fragile 01.21.18 # hmm.. but compiling the sim works fine 01.21.24 # odd.... 01.21.25 # Sounds like perhaps your features.txt aren't being defined correctly 01.21.59 # where is that located? 01.22.18 # or is that made at compile time too? 01.22.22 # Yup 01.22.33 # I think it's located under apps/features.txt in your build dir 01.22.54 # But really, try with plain Rockbox, and then add the patches one by one 01.23.06 # hmm... apps/features is empty... and it isn't a txt 01.23.26 # Ignore the .txt, that's probably just my imagination 01.23.36 # Hm. What is your shell? 01.24.52 # cygwin 01.24.55 # so bash 01.25.04 # features.txt is in apps here too, it's not imagination 01.25.24 # * DerPapst checks out a vanilla trunck 01.25.28 # -k 01.26.19 Quit waldo (Remote closed the connection) 01.26.27 # without .txt in the sim either 01.27.09 # I don't understand? 01.27.46 # did you search in "apps" of the build dir? 01.28.04 # in the build dir for the ipod video sim apps/features doesn't have the txt extension eithr. 01.28.14 # but at least it has some content 01.28.48 # I meant that there is a features.txt in the apps subdir of the source 01.29.06 # ah.. let me check 01.29.22 Quit Rob2222 () 01.29.36 # yes, there is 01.30.42 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 01.31.02 # the file looks ok and not broken in any way... 01.31.43 # the odd thing is one single LANG_ALARM_* thingy is in lang.h. only the others are missing. 01.31.52 Quit petur ("Zzzz") 01.32.05 # lang.h from the normal build 01.32.57 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B0DB36.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.34.18 # * DerPapst tried to compile from a vanilla source... 01.34.24 # *tries 01.35.06 # eh... this is fun... 01.35.38 # something seems broken with arm-elf-ld :-S 01.36.34 # heh... i'll try to figure that out tomorrow though. thanks for your help pixelma, rasher and petur :-) 01.36.36 # is there a way to select "all tracks" in rockbox? 01.36.55 # create a playlist in the root of your player 01.37.03 # or use the database 01.37.23 # I can't figure out how to do it with the database 01.37.42 Join webguest25 [0] (n=8dd3f85c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f2ad0d1faa6a6787) 01.37.51 # DerPapst: good luck, will try to get some sleep too 01.37.53 # Oh I got it... 01.38.04 # it was stuck on the currently playing files 01.38.06 # night pixelma :-) 01.38.18 # night all :) 01.38.22 Part pixelma 01.38.44 # * DerPapst should follow... 1:40am... 01.38.52 # * gevaerts as well 01.39.07 # heh.. still hacking usb? ;-) 01.39.24 # yes. I still have this same bug... 01.39.56 # * DerPapst hates bugs 01.40.15 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-71-203-172-58.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 01.40.19 # especially those you can't find/fight in a couple of hours 01.41.03 # I've been looking at this one for at least 3 or 4 hours. 01.41.32 Join Shaid [0] (i=shaid@124-168-50-44.dyn.iinet.net.au) 01.41.46 # heh.. that kinda sucks ;-) 01.42.36 # I've been looking at this one for at least 3 or 4 hours. 01.42.37 # maybe you've more luck in a couple of hours with a clear mind :-) 01.43.00 # echo... cho ..ho ..o 01.43.03 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.43.05 # and now my fingers are doing weird things that I didn't ask them to 01.43.11 # hehehe 01.44.51 # I give up for today 01.45.49 # * gevaerts waves and goes to sleep 01.47.16 Quit gevaerts ("hardware is 'interesting'") 01.48.04 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 01.48.10 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 01.48.16 # Zagor: (for the logs) it seems safari hates the live log. archived logs work fine but the live log tries to download the file using the download manager and gets stuck in a loop. if a user talks while i leave the download running, it will update the log that is being saved. supposedly the server push feature does work in safari though... 01.48.51 Nick webguest25 is now known as midgey|web (n=8dd3f85c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f2ad0d1faa6a6787) 01.49.26 Join DrDnar [0] (n=DrDnar@cmu-24-35-93-16.mivlmd.cablespeed.com) 01.49.34 # (that from midgey by the way, i guess the web client didnt like my login name) 01.50.10 Join lxx [0] (n=lexx@lxxlxx.dialup.corbina.ru) 01.50.37 # * DerPapst waves and goes to sleep too 01.50.40 # o/ 01.50.53 Quit DerPapst ("So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!") 01.52.46 # hi 01.53.11 # i have problem with my ipod with rockbox and xbox 360 01.53.43 # xbox dont see mp3 files uploaded via rockbox 01.54.16 # xbox see file only uploaded via ituns why its happen? 01.54.37 Quit simonrvn ("brb, switching kernels") 01.54.39 Join |NSA| [0] (n=pwned@c-24-128-104-22.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) 01.54.53 # <|NSA|> anyone have details on what the latest usb stack patch was? 01.55.04 # lxx: That's not a Rockbox problem. It's because your xbox isn't looking for all songs for some reason. 01.55.56 # i think the xbox 360 uses the itunes db to read the files on the ipod 01.58.50 # |NSA|: working read and write (albeit slow) for pp502x ipods and the sansas. its disabled in svn until it gets a lot of testing to ensure no filesystem corruption occurs 01.59.15 # see FS #8562 for more details 01.59.24 # <|NSA|> yay 02.00.39 # so how to do xbox 360 start playing all songs its possible? 02.00.59 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 02.01.29 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 02.04.02 # lxx: dont ask us...ask microsoft... 02.04.44 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 02.07.24 # but this problem can be solved or not? 02.08.46 # Doh... recording just locked up my sansa 02.15.43 Quit lxx () 02.19.38 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.21.53 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.23.51 # is there a way to advance the playlist while playing a game? 02.24.31 # if the game implements audio controls, otherwise no 02.24.58 # you know which games do? 02.25.35 # not offhand... 02.26.42 Join jcollie [0] (n=jcollie@dsl-ppp239.isunet.net) 02.28.58 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.31.15 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 02.32.53 Quit nicktastic (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.36.49 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S0106001d6046900d.cg.shawcable.net) 02.46.18 Join neskaya [0] (i=featherd@wiktionary/neskaya) 02.47.02 Join nicktastic [0] (n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic) 02.48.00 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.164.182) 02.51.40 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096622343.dsl.bell.ca) 02.54.18 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp123.hk.centurytel.net) 03.00.20 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.07.07 Nick Seedy is now known as Seed (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 03.08.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.17.22 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=4b596e13@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-593ec0099cde8fa3) 03.18.04 # Were there seriously server issues that prevented (or are preventing) uploading at http://rockbox-themes.org/ ? 03.18.47 # so you think that message is a lie? 03.18.53 # ;) 03.19.09 # No... but server issues shouldn't last THAT long... :D 03.19.42 # it isnt server issues...it si bandwidth issues 03.20.19 # Any time frame as to when the site will be back up for uploading? 03.20.41 # probably when viewports is committed 03.20.49 # (viewports for WPS that is) 03.21.10 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 03.21.31 # (I know I shouldn't ask this) When will the WPS part of viewports be committed? 03.21.49 # when its done 03.21.50 # * scorche shrugs 03.21.57 Quit barrywardell () 03.23.02 Quit crzyboyster ("CGI:IRC") 03.25.31 # <|NSA|> what exactly is the viewports thing i have been seeing? 03.25.33 # i think the patch for the new gigabeat cabbie.20 wps wont work with newest svn. 03.25.53 # |NSA|: there is a while wikipage about it.. 03.26.52 # JdGordon: what other players would you prefer the quickscreen to be tested on? 03.27.43 Join crope` [0] (n=crope@dyn3-82-128-184-118.psoas.suomi.net) 03.27.46 Quit crope`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.28.24 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.31.34 # n17ikh: there is a nes emulator for rockbox in the patch tracker i believe 03.32.30 # psycho_maniac, I take it NES is more intensive than GBA? 03.32.34 # cpu/memory intensive 03.32.41 # NES? nah 03.32.59 # compared to GBA 03.33.04 # the gba has the power to easily run NES games, so I'd say the GBA is harder to emulate 03.33.12 # oh 03.33.19 # gba is much more powerful, yeah 03.33.21 # do you think rockbox will ever support SNES? 03.33.28 # I like SNES games better than NES games 03.33.34 # I don't know that the hardware is powerful enough 03.33.54 # maybe in the future with newer hardware 03.33.58 # maybe in a couple more years when common players are a good deal more powerful for video 03.34.28 # psycho_maniac, did you reply in the wrong window or is my client/bouncer totally screwed? 03.34.40 # considering a Pentium233mmx is sufficient to emulate SNES completely, I think that time is not too far off 03.34.59 # gigabeat s 03.35.11 Part |NSA| 03.35.21 # i figured it was rockbox related so i posted my answer in this window 03.35.39 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 03.35.40 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-199-040.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.35.50 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-199-040.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.36.07 # k 03.36.09 Quit psycho_maniac (" connection error") 03.36.11 # just confusing, that's all 03.36.59 Quit karashata (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.") 03.38.41 Join Kizle [0] (n=Kiz@adsl-153-82-12.mia.bellsouth.net) 03.42.30 # anyone got a favorite theme or two for the sansa e200 series? 03.42.53 # I think the one I use is called "Ultima" 03.44.15 # I'm using plainbrown at the moment, which is functional enough, but I'd like shiny every once in a while 03.44.46 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 03.44.56 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 03.46.54 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 03.47.07 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 03.49.21 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.49.47 # I've been running a few battery benchmarks on my gigabeat f40. I'd like to contribute to the wiki, so I'm here to request write privileges 03.52.00 # ...I'm not sure who would handle that, so I'll stick around for a while, wait for a msg or something. 03.53.46 # wiki name KyleGabriel? 03.54.09 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp-64-91-85-208.cam.centurytel.net) 03.55.01 # yes 03.55.15 # you should now have access (unless i screwed something up) 03.57.36 Join star_jasmine [0] (n=arwyneve@75.108.74.16) 03.57.58 # thank you. I'm doing some benchmarks with the original battery, but I will be putting a newly mfg. 2000mAh in a few days 03.59.25 # Kizle: what player? 03.59.41 # gigabeat F40 03.59.54 Quit BitTorment ("SEGFAULT: shit!") 04.00.09 # Good Luck 04.00.16 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 04.00.27 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 04.02.40 # thanks. from the current benchmarks on that battery (ipod 3G) in the F40, it's a great improvement to the orig. Especially since this battery is starting to degrade. 04.03.26 # I think i got a fake battery. I bought one installed it and got the same results as the original battery. :( 04.03.35 # er, 1200mAh, not 2000 04.04.25 # and when i did install it i didnt like the "new" feel of the crosspad. Then the player ended up breaking anyways and now i own a new one yay me 04.04.26 # I'm getting around 10 hours right now. I bought this refurbished, expecting to replace the battery. 04.04.58 # Kizle: did you buy your player off ebay? 04.05.39 # yes, $70. refurb. but the screen has not a speck on it, and physically, only a few scratches on the back 04.06.10 # may i ask what seller? I just bought one as well 04.07.11 # nutrition_outlet 04.07.35 # HA same guy ! 04.07.49 # he has many 04.07.58 # Yeah i got a A class one though . 04.08.41 # he just started selling C's, and after conversing a bit, suggested I would have a top pick of them (60 of em) 04.09.01 # it was worth it. I have a case to protect it, and cover up the back 04.09.34 # how did yours break? 04.09.55 # Kizle, I'm testing my c240 for battery life right now 04.10.14 # i took it apart too many times and one of the wires for the lcd screen broke. 04.10.56 # Also I have a F80 :) 04.11.11 Quit star_jasmine () 04.11.56 # I have mine playing away on some Ethan Iverson Trio while benching it 04.12.22 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 04.12.33 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 04.13.00 # nice, my friend has an S model. this was before Idiscovered rockbox, otherwise I would have swayed him 04.13.01 Quit midgey|web ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.14.24 # what cover do you use for your f40? ive been looking for one 04.14.33 # I dont use one. I dont like them 04.15.32 # technohm.com 04.16.18 # awesome thanks :) 04.17.27 # is the question "how do i add music in rockbox" in the FAQ? Just curious because i notice a lot of people ask that. 04.22.49 # odd. my password that I registered with the Wiki is not what it is. I had to reset it to be able to change it 04.23.09 # maybe you mistyped it 04.23.13 # it was 4 digits 04.23.35 # and I was sure of what I typed originaly 04.23.59 # the email with my reg info had my password as 6 *'s 04.24.13 # 7 rather 04.24.32 # what's done is done, though 04.24.45 # strange 04.34.40 Quit DerDome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.36.48 Quit hcs ("Leaving.") 04.38.41 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 04.43.55 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 04.44.06 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 04.45.45 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 04.45.56 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 04.51.16 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 04.53.32 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.53.55 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF462D.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.54.07 Quit psycho_maniac (" quit") 05.08.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.09.11 # rockbox sounds like 100 million times better than my cellphone 05.09.46 # Was that unexpected for some reason? 05.09.49 # i got video working on my iriver yesterday 05.10.22 # flac uses more cpu while the file size gets smaller. ogg vorbis uses more cpu power as the file gets bigger. this is a confusing situation for me 05.10.47 # on a portable player, cpu power is a huge concern 05.12.59 # i'm finding that flac -2 is the most practical, for size verses performance 05.16.44 Quit Kizle ("..whoosh") 05.17.47 # is anybody in here working on the yp-p2 port? 05.19.29 Quit asdrubal ("Leaving") 05.20.30 # i wanna work on it, but I'm too scared I'm gonna brick my player :P 05.25.29 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 05.25.42 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 05.36.57 Quit Horscht ("User was distributing pornography on server; system seized by FBI") 05.38.31 # ashes: It's not as huge a concern as you think 05.38.43 # ashes: FLAC generally doesn't use all that much power at any size for decoding. 05.43.57 # * JdGordon hopes rbutil can parse .lang files 05.44.06 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 05.44.17 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 05.45.17 Quit aneka ("KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 05.46.46 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.47.15 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 05.47.23 # does this regex look ok to split up SOUND_SETTING(flags,var,lang_id,name,setting) ... 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If it is just the dock connector power, I'd expect no noticeable change as long as nothing is actually connected 08.07.11 # amiconn: I was surprised, too. Do we know that the internal wiring is the same for alle the different ipods? Maybe the D2REG regulator does set another voltage supply on nano/Video? 08.07.34 # If there is a pin to detect a connected dock, that should probably be used, but I can't test it 08.07.46 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B0E448.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.08.12 # The only accessory I have for my mini is the (not yet supported) remote 08.09.43 # Buschel: But what should that be? In your patch you originally disabled it. Did you find anything that doesn't work because of this disabling? 08.10.13 # I'll generate two patches to test: a) disable the supply for nano/Video (maybe someone can check accessories) b) enabling/disabling via GPIO-detect 08.10.23 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 08.10.34 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 08.10.35 # amiconn: no, everything worked fine. But I don't know, if someone tested with accessories 08.10.47 # Anyway, it shouldn't be difficult to find out whether this is the dock supply voltage even without a dock. 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Trying to play aac on a sim compiled with gcc 4.2.x segfaults now 09.14.38 # i finally got a wall charger for my e200, after all night plugged in, with rockbox (not playing), it is still not charged 09.14.39 # Undoing the fix makes it work again 09.14.51 # i guess this is old news, but just wanted to "confirm" 09.15.25 # jhMikeS: I was wondering if you had a clue why the call to i2c_readbyte in the set_serial_descriptor function in this patch would seem to be the cause of either stkov or freezing - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/sansa_serial_v3.diff It's called from the usb thread during init. 09.16.19 # linuxstb: Is this function called from an isr? 09.18.33 # * jhMikeS was going to ask about that as well 09.18.43 # I didn't think so, although I'm not sure... 09.20.03 # why not use i2c_readbytes to read multiple too :) 09.20.51 # Well, I tried that first, and it crashed, so I then switched to readbyte, just in case that didn't work... 09.21.34 # The usb_core_init() function (which calls my function) is called from usb_enable() - is that called from an ISR? 09.22.28 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-74-29.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.24.48 # Ah, it seems that the usb_detect() function is calling usb_core_init() as well... 09.27.45 # usb_core_init should only be called once from a thread context 09.29.36 # It seems the thread is being created and removed each time USB is attached. 09.29.39 Quit Slasheri (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 09.30.57 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 09.31.04 # the threading use is really not right. it should exit itself not be terminated. 09.33.42 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 09.33.49 # where are the events defined? 09.34.51 # * linuxstb doesn't know this code at all 09.36.46 Join jacoby [0] (n=458d4b13@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-96ec3f55bb52bdbd) 09.37.58 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy11.netz.sbs.de) 09.43.19 # jhMikeS: would you care to let these guys know how the Gigabeat S port is doing? http://www.mygigabeat.com/forum/messages.cfm?threadid=9D781467-3048-2906-EABC89A57C883BBC 09.43.56 Join Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 09.45.04 Quit XavierGr_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.45.08 Join petur2 [0] (n=petur@ip-212-239-214-166.dsl-static.scarlet.be) 09.45.51 # linuxstb: http://rafb.net/p/jSQSHV47.html <= proper thread quitting 09.45.58 Quit petur (Nick collision from services.) 09.46.05 Nick petur2 is now known as petur (n=petur@ip-212-239-214-166.dsl-static.scarlet.be) 09.46.14 # markun: sure 09.46.53 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@bl8-171-176.dsl.telepac.pt) 09.48.56 # Not sure what to say yet. I'm just trying to get the existing drivers in a good state before moving on. 09.49.31 # jhMikeS: Thanks. There is still the problem of the thread being created from ISR context - so I'm wondering if the thread should be dynamically created at all. 09.50.07 # Are interrupts working on the S now ? 09.50.37 # why does usb_core_init have to be called from usb_detect at all? why not call it from the usb_thread when it gets notified? 09.50.49 # they have been working 09.51.22 # still are aren't they ? :) 09.51.53 # they'd better be or something's wrong with the universe :) 09.52.27 # jhMikeS: I don't know why usb_core_init is called from there... 09.52.41 # jhMikeS: I think any news would make them happy :) 09.54.30 Quit jacoby ("CGI:IRC") 09.57.11 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-198-103.dsl.scarlet.be) 10.03.22 Quit GodEater ("Ex-Chat") 10.03.30 # linuxstb: All that core init stuff _has_ to go into the USB thread. that really isn't int-context type stuff. 10.04.01 Join GodEater [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 10.04.43 Quit DaCapn (Remote closed the connection) 10.06.22 Join stewball`ghost [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.104.252.10) 10.08.58 Join cendres [0] (n=ashes@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:0:0:0:3f) 10.10.53 # I also can see the normal usb thread as being the transfer thread instead of creating a new one. 10.14.37 Join martii [0] (i=martii@obgyn.edu.pl) 10.14.43 # hi 10.15.08 # your wiki says iTrip with LCD will not work with rockbox right? 10.16.44 Quit tvelocity_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.16.49 # * GodEater confirms that this is indeed what the wiki says 10.17.12 # GodEater: ;) 10.17.25 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@athedsl-116827.home.otenet.gr) 10.17.29 # GodEater: do you know any itrip mod so will make it powered on all the time? 10.17.55 # GodEater: it looks like itrip is getting some commands to turn on 10.18.17 # Buy a non-proprietary FM adapter? 10.18.26 # I know nothing about any ipod Accessories at all 10.18.38 # linuxstb: but itrip gives me the best results (quality) 10.19.27 # linuxstb: i get lot's of interference for ex with belkin 10.19.32 # martii: not if it doesnt' work surely... 10.19.54 # GodEater: I still use apple firmware so everything works 10.19.55 # sure, completely silence means no interference ;-) 10.20.11 # GodEater: the only thing that stops me to go for rockbox is itrip 10.20.42 # martii: well it's going to stop you for a long time then - no-one is working on making ipod accessories work as far as I know 10.21.25 # GodEater: unless I'll find out how to turn on itrip without using ipod at all :) 10.21.52 # martii: I find it hard to believe that no "generic" FM transmitter is capable of the same (or even better) quality than your itrip... 10.21.57 # GodEater: I could install it permanently in my car :) 10.22.08 # GodEater: and use with any player 10.22.45 Quit defukt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.22.57 Join vo1dhawk [0] (n=voidhawk@202-78-145-31.cable.telstraclear.net) 10.23.06 Part vo1dhawk 10.23.26 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 10.23.30 # GodEater: what about ipodlinux? I think they did some work on serial driver didn't they? 10.23.32 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.24.14 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 10.24.26 # 1) iPodLinux is nothing to do with us, 2) They only did work on the serial driver for 1G -> 3G, not later models 10.25.21 Quit ashes (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.25.33 # GodEater: mine is 3G 10.26.18 # see comment 1) 10.26.37 # GodEater: I know that it's different project 10.27.00 # did they even get and use the 3gen fixes amiconn did ? 10.27.02 # martii: But it still needs someone with a 3G to incorporate that driver into Rockbox, and write the higher level support for accessories. 10.27.02 # GodEater: but if they did something that should be easier for you to use they efforts 10.27.31 # martii: There is no "you" with Rockbox, it's "us"... People work on what they want to, on devices they own. 10.27.36 Join MindScape [0] (i=tranquil@ifconfig.and.set.your.eth0.linux.info.ve) 10.27.41 # (and contribute that work to the project) 10.27.43 # linuxstb: I know 10.27.47 # martii: but I'm not working on it 10.27.54 # martii: and neither is anyone else 10.28.48 # martii: then why do you say "you" ? 10.29.27 # GodEater: I ment plural you 10.29.38 # martii: when you start the work, I'm sure you'll find others willing to help 10.29.57 # Bagder: but I can't program 10.30.05 # martii: Best to say "someone"... 10.30.22 # Bagder: wrote few simple scripts in bash few time 10.30.27 # Bagder: wrote few simple scripts in bash few times 10.31.00 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.31.01 # linuxstb: so I would have to learn C i pressume? 10.31.34 # has anybody started working on the port for the yp-p2? I wanna help, but I'm too scared to brick my player :P 10.31.46 # Yes, and probably a little ARM assembly - enough to be able to examine a disassembly of the original Apple firmware to understand how that is communicating with accessories. 10.31.57 # kaimuki: with tcctool you can run custom code without risking to brick it 10.32.18 # linuxstb: I might get back to you guys later this year 10.32.20 # bagder: oh :) I'm even too scared to try that, but if you say it works ;) 10.32.26 # tcctool just transfers code to your device's RAM and your device runs it. If it crashes, you just power-cycle your player. 10.32.34 # linuxstb: if you say I'll get support I might give it a try 10.32.42 # oh well sweet :) 10.33.04 # kaimuki: But of course, that code is free to damage things if it wants to, so nothing is 100% safe... 10.33.22 # But you would probably need to try quite hard. 10.33.41 # yeah, I realize that... thats also why I'm asking if people have been playing with the p2 10.33.57 # We only know what's in the forum thread - I assume you've seen it? 10.34.04 # yeah 10.34.26 # in general, there's a ratio 99:1 of people asking about a port to the people actually trying to do something on it... 10.34.57 # Bagder: most people are not skilled enough to do it 10.35.05 # Bagder: that low ? 10.35.08 # :) 10.35.20 # martii: I disagree with that general assumption 10.35.29 # most people can do a lot 10.35.34 # if they just bothered 10.35.40 # i know c and assembly and microprossesor stuff... but I've never programmed the arm, and I'm not quite sure where to start 10.35.54 # martii: most people are too lazy to learn the skills 10.36.07 # Bagder: not everyone can learn C 10.36.11 # kaimuki: if you know assembly and microprocessors, arm is but a flavor you'll quickly learn 10.36.15 # martii: that's rubbish 10.36.24 # martii: working on a port is a lot more than learning C too 10.36.30 # bagderL yeah I figure :) 10.36.34 # Bagder: I can test any code you give me 10.36.44 # everyone can test 10.36.54 # Bagder: but as I can see noone is doing what I need so sorry 10.37.09 # we've had a 14 year old blind kid come in here and learnt C. If he can do it - so can you 10.37.17 # martii: I'm not talking about the ipod accessory protocol here 10.37.37 Join ashes [0] (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 10.37.38 # Bagder: I always report bugs when I get chance to use software 10.38.54 Quit cendres (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.39.11 # I'm not directing this at anyone in particular, just saying that there's always more to it than "I can't program" 10.39.59 # martii: Specifically to the ipod accessory protocol issue, you could start by trying to gather all known information in a wiki page, finding the specific pieces of source code from the IPL kernel that deal with the serial port on the 3G etc, finding hardware tools (such as dock adaptors) that could help someone develop the drivers. 10.41.23 # oh hey linuxstb... maybe you can help. I tried to compile tcctool with the VMWare debian u have up on the site, but it wont compile cause the image up on the site doesnt have libusb-dev installed... and when I apt-get it, it tells me I need to rebuild the kernel... which I hope isnt necessary :P 10.41.30 # Bagder: Seen my remark regarding you warning "fix"? 10.41.40 # nope, did it break? 10.42.00 # I got tcctool to compile with my fedora build, but then all the compilers are new and updated, and might not work with rockbox 10.42.02 # [09:14:29] Bagder: Your aac warning fix is bad. Trying to play aac on a sim compiled with gcc 4.2.x segfaults now 10.42.05 # [09:14:39] Undoing the fix makes it work again 10.42.18 # then we should undo it 10.42.27 # linuxstb: if you guys offer help I'm pretty happy to do something about it 10.42.36 # as I got hardware 10.42.36 # or perhaps better try to find another work-around 10.43.08 # oh right... i tried the cygwin route, and it freezes every time I try to install it on my machine 10.43.28 # martii: It's unlikely someone will want to write code for hardware they don't own - but people here will be happy to help someone who's trying to write the code to do it. 10.43.35 # kaimuki: in general though usb things never play well on vmware 10.43.49 # neither on cygwin 10.44.08 # or perhaps it's just the sansas that have that effect 10.44.14 # You could develop Rockbox in vmware and run tcctool from WIndows though. 10.44.22 # ah right 10.45.21 # yeah that was my plan 10.45.42 # I tested on amd64, btw. It *might* work on 32 bit 10.45.46 # cept, now I have to boot into my fedora image to run tcctool, and back into the debian image for development, which is kind of a pain 10.46.18 # why not just install the right compilers in the fedora image ? 10.46.30 # we have a nice shell script to do everything for you... 10.46.37 # i think i tried that... 10.46.40 # hang on 10.46.44 # thats the rockboxdev.sh right? 10.46.49 # correct 10.47.11 # In Debian, just do "apt-get install mingw32" to install the win32 cross-compilers, then you can build tcctool for WIndows (see the README for tcctool for instructions). 10.48.45 # oh that would work too :) 10.49.56 # wait... I still wont have the libusb-devel package though 10.49.57 # * linuxstb should build a new windows binary for the download server, plus add an option to specify the parameters manually, not just using the compiled-in presets 10.50.10 # kaimuki: See the README... 10.50.14 # oh k 10.51.09 # linuxstb: Btw, any news on the logikdax port? 10.53.59 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.164.182) 10.56.36 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.58.27 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 11.05.37 Join uski [0] (n=uski@uski.ST.HMC.Edu) 11.05.48 # hi, does anyone has a Sansa e200 here and use it with a car charger ? 11.06.18 # or with a "stupid" powered usb port with no computer listening ? (such as those AC to USB power adapters) 11.06.25 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 11.06.33 # i'd like to know if the sansa needs to handshake the power with the computer before it starts charging its battery 11.07.41 # did anyone see Jeff's post in the forum about attempting a CF card install, and then ending up with an ATA: -80 error? I can't see where in ata.c a -80 might come from ? 11.08.18 # the "highest" return I can see possible is -70 11.08.21 # -8 * 10 ? 11.08.51 # (ignore me) 11.08.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.09.41 # /ignore petur 11.10.08 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet14.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 11.11.20 # uski: yup, i do 11.11.49 # uski: any usb device requesting full power from the usb host must do that protocol, or it will not receive it 11.12.45 # uski: it seems that part works fine in the recent rockbox, but there is some other issue, somehow: i just got a "stupid" wall charger last evening, kept it plugged in all night with rockobox stopped. 11.13.15 # it almost didn't charge at all (from a reported 50% or so to 59%) 11.14.04 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 11.14.15 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 11.14.52 Join japc [0] (n=japc@bl7-245-191.dsl.telepac.pt) 11.15.20 # nanook, you mean that if I plug my sansa to a stupid wall charger it will not charge, even with the original firmware or with rockbox started ? 11.16.13 # no, with the original fimrware it will charge fine 11.16.38 # no problem there. the same with the original firmware and a computer connection 11.16.47 # only in rockobox it seems to not charge 11.17.03 # although i am a bit confused: other people have different feedback, it seems 11.17.11 # really got to go eat, catch you all later 11.17.17 # * GodEater prods at linuxstb and gestures vaguely at a PM 11.17.39 Join iamben_ [0] (n=ben@adsl-75-13-226-86.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) 11.18.24 Quit japc (Remote closed the connection) 11.24.57 Quit barrywardell () 11.25.00 # ok nanook thanks. 11.28.17 Quit tvelocity_ ("Αποχώρησε") 11.28.32 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-116827.home.otenet.gr) 11.29.11 Quit iamben (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.29.42 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@77-99-112-231.cable.ubr16.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 11.32.45 # Slasheri: hi. :) regarding fs#8599, do you think it is better to a) introduce an additional 'valid' flag in mp3entry, b) store index+1 in mp3entry.tagcache_idx and still use 0 to mean "invalid" or c) use -1 as a flag for invalid 11.34.56 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.34.58 # Slasheri: c) has the big disdvantage that mp3entry structures are created all over the place and typically initialised with memset(0), so it is difficult to make sure that tagcache_idx is set to -1 initially 11.43.54 # amiconn: Nothing recently, although shotofadds seems to be making good progress, and his work (on a slightly different TCC chip) should be easily ported to mine. 11.53.30 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 12.02.07 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@barry-workstation.ucd.ie) 12.03.04 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 12.03.15 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 12.12.49 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 12.13.00 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 12.13.34 Quit pondlife (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.22.19 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 12.29.51 Quit ch4os_ ("leaving") 12.31.08 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 12.32.33 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966529.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.34.23 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-98-216-170-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 12.34.24 Quit lee-qid (Client Quit) 12.34.58 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966529.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.37.39 Quit desowin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.41.49 Quit crope` (Remote closed the connection) 12.43.22 Quit DaCapn (Remote closed the connection) 12.44.37 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 12.44.48 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 12.48.59 Join daurnimas [0] (n=daurn@b27C.adsl.ecomtel.com.au) 12.50.27 Quit ol_schoola () 12.50.49 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 12.51.00 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 12.52.13 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 12.52.18 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.52.25 Quit daurnimator (Connection timed out) 12.52.30 Join crope` [0] (n=crope@dyn3-82-128-184-118.psoas.suomi.net) 12.52.31 Nick daurnimas is now known as daurnimator (n=daurn@b27C.adsl.ecomtel.com.au) 12.52.38 Quit daurnimator (Excess Flood) 12.53.00 Join daurnimator [0] (n=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 12.55.19 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@barry-workstation.ucd.ie) 12.55.24 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 12.55.34 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 12.58.47 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 12.59.29 Quit stewball`ghost (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.04.25 Quit MattAndrew (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.05.15 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 13.05.26 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 13.05.39 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-010.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 13.06.20 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 13.08.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.08.59 Join fyre^OS [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-160-247.nyc.res.rr.com) 13.11.34 # jhMikeS, linuxstb : there is actually even more stuff still running in ISR-context: usb_core_control_request() runs from the interrupt handler. I've actually been wondering if that might be one of the causes for the problems I've been having while trying to rework some stuff 13.12.04 # jhMikeS, linuxstb: I'll try moving that to the "normal" thread context 13.13.24 # It depends on what that stuff does 13.14.01 # It's not a bad idea in general to run some time critical stuff in isr context 13.14.17 # But i2c communication in an isr is a bad idea on most targets 13.16.28 # amiconn: this one shouldn't be time critical (but I might be wrong there), but the things it does can take a while, and can cause more interrupts, so I think it has to get out 13.20.02 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.20.33 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 13.23.01 Part pondlife 13.27.01 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.27.26 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 13.27.37 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 13.33.54 Join japc [0] (n=japc@194.65.5.235) 13.34.32 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 13.34.38 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.37.21 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 13.37.32 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 13.39.12 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.39.46 # * gevaerts has done something interesting and gets 'Undefined instruction at 00008084 (0)' 13.43.55 # gevaerts: do you know www.ohloh.net ? 13.44.46 # is that 7 times you there? 13.46.19 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-199-040.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.47.30 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.47.53 # petur: I know about it. The results you get for a people search for 'gevaerts' are about me 13.48.15 # petur: or did you mean something else 13.48.42 # yup, that was what I mean 13.50.58 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 13.51.07 # petur: they seem to count kernel patches several times though 13.51.09 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 13.51.48 # because the patch was done on multiple trees, probably 14.02.03 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 14.05.03 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-199-040.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.14.03 Join BitTorment [0] (n=martin@87-194-94-92.bethere.co.uk) 14.25.35 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 14.36.20 Join asdrubal [0] (n=abc@cpe-76-190-210-165.neo.res.rr.com) 14.39.10 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.48.38 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 14.48.51 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.00.13 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=xavier@ppp237-54.adsl.forthnet.gr) 15.00.13 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 15.04.01 # is it only me or rockbox.org is down? 15.04.13 # works for me 15.04.19 # ok here too 15.04.27 # me too 15.04.32 Part LinusN 15.04.41 Join guest48 [0] (n=54bcd236@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-71b69c022811a9b0) 15.04.54 # bah didn't work for 5 minutes and as soon as I said it now it works 15.05.04 # XavierGr: for me it works 15.05.24 Nick XavierGr_ is now known as XavierGr (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.05.43 # XavierGr: your IRC was disconnected too, maybe related ;) 15.05.44 Quit guest48 (Client Quit) 15.05.49 # sorry for the join/quit flood too, my ISP is killing me these days 15.06.08 # petur: yeah but interent worked while I was trying to enter rockbox.org 15.08.58 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 15.09.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.15.03 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 15.15.12 # Is there a way to turn off database auto-updating in the OF of sansas? 15.15.14 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.15.18 # it takes forever to boot up OF in sansa 15.15.56 # there were patches for this (to bootloader), but those never worked for me 15.15.57 # asdrubal: if i am not mistaking, on some versions rockbox allready does that, but it is not working on all versions of e200/of 15.16.05 # for me it does work 15.16.10 # I have c200 15.17.30 # On c200 it's not possible to suppress the db update 15.17.41 # asdrubal: i am not sure about the c200, but i think they are quite similar in many ways 15.17.49 # ahm, okay, there you go 15.18.06 # amiconn, do you know why ? 15.20.55 # The c200 OF restarts directly from USB mode without executing the bootloader. 15.26.27 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 15.28.14 Quit asdrubal (Remote closed the connection) 15.32.37 # With rockbox on the e200, does anyone else have hit or miss bookmarks functionality? 15.33.15 Quit freenod__ ("User disconnected") 15.34.33 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b81292e00d00e25e) 15.34.56 # To enable the new USB stack of rockbox, where would I have to put the "#define USE_ROCKBOX_USB" line? 15.35.24 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.35.31 Join freenod__ [0] (n=kslater@24.svnf1.xdsl.nauticom.net) 15.37.42 # Horscht: I would guess in the appropriate firmware/export/config-*.h file. I put -DUSE_ROCKBOX_USB in my Makefile on the EXTRA_DEFINES line (so that line now reads "export EXTRA_DEFINES=-DUSE_ROCKBOX_USB") 15.39.45 # ah, thank you 15.40.13 # is it only me who hears hiss while buffering and using scrollwheel on sansa e200? 15.43.29 # with OF the hiss while using scrollwheel starts after playback (most hearable when in pause) 15.44.17 Join jcollie [0] (n=jcollie@161.210.6.204) 15.49.29 Join nicktastique [0] (n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic) 15.49.31 Join asdrubal [0] (n=abc@cpe-76-190-210-165.neo.res.rr.com) 15.49.52 # if I plug in my sansa while it's running rockbox, will the battery recharge? 15.51.56 # only if you press the menu button while plugin the cable in 15.52.05 Quit Apollonovich ("Leaving") 15.52.59 # I had a productive lunch break. As a result, I could transfer 2GB from my sansa to the host (using dd) without resets (although there were some during enumeration and partition scanning). Speed was 471 kB/s 15.53.23 # gevaerts: Excellent! 15.53.42 # * LambdaCalculus37 hands gevaerts a cookie 15.53.56 # * Horscht steals said cookie 15.54.02 # It's now running badblocks (to make sure writing still works...). After that I'll upload a new patch 15.54.16 # * gevaerts attacks Horscht in a fit of rage 15.54.39 # Horscht, Oh cool! 15.55.51 # Horscht: Never come between a dev and his cookie. :) 15.56.21 # I learned that lesson today, LambdaCalculus37 15.56.37 Quit nanook ("leaving") 15.57.34 # i'll never steal gevaerts' cookie ever again 15.57.57 # * gevaerts calms down and decides to forgive Horscht 16.00.34 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 16.02.04 # Horscht, whenever I do that, hold down menu button while pluggin in USB cable it shuts down 16.02.09 # it locks up, really 16.02.33 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 16.04.06 # I don't really know, what button needs pressing, tbh. 16.04.33 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 16.05.59 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 16.06.56 # Horscht, I can't find any info on charging sansa in rockbox 16.13.12 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98214137@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-39708412eea24856) 16.14.36 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 16.14.39 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 16.15.16 Join star_jasmine [0] (n=arwyneve@75.108.74.16) 16.16.36 # hi everyone. an obvious question probably, but in the daily builds, sapi 4 is supposed to be enabled in the rbuilt utility. how do I compile and test this? I use cygwin, f that can be done 16.16.42 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 16.19.28 Nick iamben_ is now known as iamben (n=ben@adsl-75-13-226-86.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) 16.20.56 Join major_works [0] (n=chatzill@ool-45745dcc.dyn.optonline.net) 16.21.51 # asdrubal: 1st: You can't change a Sansa in rockbox as of now. Use the OF. 16.22.21 # asdrubal: 2nd: You need to hold select while plugging in. Menu (I guess you mean the power button) shuts down your Sansa 16.22.27 # gevaerts: To enable USB, is it enough to add -DUSE_ROCKBOX_USB to the extra defines in the makefile, or do you have to append the appropriate firmware/export/config-*.h file also? 16.22.45 # major_works: that should be enough (it's what I do) 16.23.08 # OK, thanks. I posted a note to the tracker about the behavior I'm seeing. 16.23.23 # I just wanted to be sure I'd actually enabled it. :-) 16.24.01 # major_works: about your flyspray entry : how long did you wait after plugging in ? On XP it takes a while to stablize (while Windows semi-locks), but then suddenly it starts working. 16.24.30 # major_works: without enabling it you wouldn't see drive letters at all 16.24.45 # I waited quite a while. The first time I tried it, Explorer crashed completely. The second time it was as I posted. 16.25.12 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-209-105.student.uu.se) 16.25.18 # Yes, it was enabled... I did just what you'd said about -DUSE_ROCKBOX_USB in the extra defines. 16.26.29 # OK. Sounds like I will have to do some vista testing then. I'll first (i.e. before vista...) try to get it to work better in xp, maybe that will be enough 16.26.30 # It was even weirder in that when I unplugged it, it went dead on me, but that seems to have been another incident I've been having of the battery needing to be removed and reseated. It just happened to occur at the moment I unplugged it. Freaked me out. 16.27.15 # Yeah, it's not quite right under Vista, but then Vista is not quite right itself. It took a while for me to figure out how to get Vista to see the Sansa at all. 16.28.26 Quit star_jasmine () 16.29.03 # major_works: About your last point (still booting the OF when plugging in) : changing that requires building the bootloader using -DUSE_ROCKBOX_USB, and then updating it. I wouldn't recommend doing that until you can actually really use this stuff 16.30.23 # OK, thanks for that tip. I'll wait before taking that plunge. I'll also give connecting another try later this morning and let you know if it behaves any differently. Thanks also for your hard work on this... it's appreciated. 16.31.47 # About trying USB again... I'm thinking maybe I didn't give it enough time? So I'll try once more. 16.32.11 # major_works: could be. 16.33.04 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955F389.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.33.22 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.33.22 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 16.34.40 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 16.35.31 # although I don't have Vista, but can it be connected with Vista's ReadyBoost? 16.36.24 # I don't even know what ReadyBoost is. Vista and I are pretty new to each other and we're still eyeing each other warily. 16.37.44 # desowin: I hope they don't try ReadyBoost on a full speed device... 16.39.05 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.39.18 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B0E448.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.42.02 Join scorche|w [0] (n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 16.42.13 # "they"? 16.46.10 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 16.48.20 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.49.12 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnc202.ugent.be) 16.51.48 # Well, well, well... looks like you was right. I didn't wait long enough. Two drives now show up in Explorer. It took almost 10 minutes. However, Explorer seems to have hung up trying to open the Sansa. 16.51.55 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.51.55 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 16.52.00 Quit DaCapn (Remote closed the connection) 16.53.51 # Horscht: whoever wrote this ReadyBoost feature in Vista 16.53.55 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A64CA.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.54.22 # ah, i see 16.54.35 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@dhcp-892b9bdd.ucd.ie) 16.55.10 Join Casainho_ [0] (n=chatzill@bl8-171-176.dsl.telepac.pt) 16.55.46 # Wow! I can open my 4 GB SDHC card! 17.01.09 Quit roxfan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.06.01 Join roxfan [0] (n=dunno@95.96-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 17.08.43 Join wrtlprnft [0] (n=wrtlprnf@77.47.5.89.static.cablesurf.de) 17.09.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.09.24 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 17.10.19 Quit CaptainSquid ("Miranda IM!") 17.11.06 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 17.11.22 # anyone know why in the latest build on the ipod 5.5G (80GB), the disk spins up after every song? runtime gathering is disabled, as is last.fm log 17.11.43 # last.fm logging does caching anyway 17.11.56 # i disabled it anyways, just to be sure 17.12.44 Quit Casainho (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.13.03 # does that happen on any other target? 17.13.09 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.163) 17.14.01 # I uploaded my recent work. It still seems stable, but since I did some low-level reorganisations backups are recommended. 17.15.04 Join major_works_ [0] (n=chatzill@ool-45745dcc.dyn.optonline.net) 17.17.49 # gevaerts: I got as far as both drives showing up in Explorer but Windows crashed completely when I got the Sansa to open. I 17.17.50 Quit major_works (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.18.02 Nick major_works_ is now known as major_works (n=chatzill@ool-45745dcc.dyn.optonline.net) 17.18.29 # I'd gotten my SDHC card to open before that. 17.19.27 # major_works: I'l try to find out what makes XP slow. Maybe that will help for Vista as well. 17.20.13 # Sure thing. I just thought I could help by trying it and letting you know how it went. 17.20.50 # gevaerts: Does your latest patch still call usb_core_init() from interrupt context? 17.22.06 # linuxstb: I think not, but I should double-check (the code path is a bit involved...). Your serial patch still crashes. 17.22.11 # gevaerts: Looking at the patch, I'm guessing it does - you haven't changed the usb_detect() function. 17.25.24 # * rasher punches perl repeatedly 17.26.39 # I'm trying to encode from utf-8 into iso-8859-1, and encode("iso-8859-1", $string) is just giving me what seems to be copy of the (utf-8) $string. 17.27.27 # Maybe it's time for voice.py 17.30.10 # linuxstb: true. I just tried moving set_serial_descriptor() to usb_core_control_request_handler(). That doesn't crash anymore, but the serial number doesn't match what the OF gives me (OF gives 4453033f-32305453-b9108047-6b008c55-00000000, RB gives 00000000-00000000-9405B487-401DFA13-00000000) 17.31.11 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096622343.dsl.bell.ca) 17.31.59 # gevaerts: That's odd - for bertrik, they matched... 17.32.25 # linuxstb: bertrik has an e200, I have a c200. Maybe the exact location is different 17.32.37 # Not unlikely 17.32.55 # gevaerts: Maybe I can try it on my e200? 17.34.01 # "usb 2-1.3: reset full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 20" still happens for me 17.34.43 # rasher: apply my latest patch (v8), apply linuxstb's patch (http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/sansa_serial_v3.diff), find where set_serial_descriptor() is called and move that to case USB_DT_STRING: 17.34.55 # rasher: in usb_core_control_request_handler() 17.35.05 # will do 17.35.58 # gevaerts: According to this page, the values wrap every 0x40 bytes - so there doesn't seem to be any other place for it - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AustriaMicrosystemsAS3514 17.36.23 # desowin: not entirely unexpected. I still have them as well. I did really see the 2GB read without any reset though 17.37.26 # linuxstb: maybe they are at a different offset on C200 ? Are the other 48 bytes used for something known ? 17.37.47 # gevaerts: does it matter where in the case it is called? 17.37.49 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.38.06 # gevaerts: Checking the logs from the other day, here are what people reported as their serial numbers via USB - http://pastebin.ca/901369 - so some have 16 bytes of info, others have 32. 17.38.31 # rasher: probably not 17.39.21 # gevaerts: That page describes bytes 0x20 to 0x2f - I don't know what's in the first 32 bytes (I don't have the datasheet - both others here do) 17.39.30 # rasher: I put it right after the case label 17.39.41 # gevaerts: As did I.. building now 17.39.51 # linuxstb: I'll just try and see what's there. Reading some bytes shouldn't hurt 17.40.08 Quit petur ("now sports") 17.40.27 # gevaerts: It wouldn't hurt to dump a few hundred bytes to a file... 17.40.58 # * rasher builds z80.. 17.41.16 # linuxstb: It's only 64 bytes, so I shouldn't have to try more than 3 more settings... 17.41.43 # That's assuming it does wrap every 64 bytes... 17.42.07 # linuxstb: checking that only takes one more try (not for 100% certainty but still) 17.43.39 # Or just give your Sansa a very long serial number... 17.43.52 # gevaerts: now I'm not getting the usb screen 17.44.29 # And getting "usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110" 17.45.23 # linuxstb: 0x40 gives the same as 0x00, and none of the values look like what the OF gives me 17.45.46 Quit barrywardell_ () 17.45.51 # rasher: Can you try with just my patch ? 17.45.55 # sure 17.46.22 # gevaerts: You could always just write the USB serial number there ;) 17.47.53 Quit magicthree (Remote closed the connection) 17.48.43 # gevaerts: your patch gives the same results 17.49.59 # rasher: interesting. Does the sansa hang or can you still do things there 17.50.15 # gevaerts: I can still browse the menus 17.51.04 # linuxstb: a wild guess : would the version of the OF matter ? Maybe they use the AS3514 in some versions and something else in others ? 17.51.07 Join ApotheoZ [0] (i=ApotheoZ@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 17.52.52 # rasher: it might be a latency issue. I'm not sure if the device has to send back the device descriptor in the same frame (==1 ms). Can you try boosting ? 17.52.53 # gevaerts: Anything's possible. 17.52.55 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.53.06 # gevaerts: I'll try that 17.53.37 Join magicthree [0] (n=Banana@87.106.78.187) 17.54.07 # w00t, the 1 of 2 original ProFont creators is on board for creating a new license blurb for us. 17.54.19 # gevaerts: Nope, still "usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110" 17.54.30 # lostlogic: Wow, I didn't expect any of them to still exist :) 17.54.50 # linuxstb: nor did I 17.56.05 # "FAT: Directory bread(block 1386551) failed", "scsi 16:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device" and rockbox freezed 17.56.35 Join kimi-sharamin [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096622343.dsl.bell.ca) 17.56.54 Quit karashata (Nick collision from services.) 17.56.58 Nick kimi-sharamin is now known as karashata (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096622343.dsl.bell.ca) 17.57.01 # * desowin runs fsck on OF 18.00.47 # linuxstb: I tried E1_00_03 and E1_01_06 : both have the same serial number 18.02.51 # rasher: it does run on my c250, so I'm not sure what's going on 18.04.28 Part frogskank ("Leaving") 18.05.58 # Can people running windows (Vista or XP) check if the amount of files makes a difference (i.e. if a freshly-formatted player takes as long to show up as a full one) ? 18.08.30 # I just traced a connection to XP and it does take a while, but all it does is just reading loads of data 18.12.27 Quit Casainho_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.12.59 # * gevaerts is going home now 18.13.25 Quit gevaerts ("be back soon") 18.14.36 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 18.15.05 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@rockbox/developer/austriancoder) 18.16.45 # Hi.. can somebody tell me, why audiohw_set_lineout_vol(tenthdb2master(0), tenthdb2master(0)); is needed in set_prescaled_volume(void)@firmware/sound.c? 18.18.39 Join MattAndrew [0] (n=mzandrew@cpe-67-49-176-228.hawaii.res.rr.com) 18.23.37 Quit Neovanglist (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.23.40 Join Neovanglist [0] (i=Neovangl@chrisg.phx.neovanglist.net) 18.23.48 # and this error is repeatable 18.24.14 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216aac@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a7bdd8eb430fa766) 18.24.28 # oh, this time after bunch of directory breads, I've got "usb 2-1.3: device descriptor read/64, error -110" 18.25.23 Quit ApotheoZ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.26.30 # austriancoder: it sets the lineout (dock connector) volume to 0db (which may or may bnot be the default for the chip) 18.27.27 # roolku: okay.. but why is this not done in audiohw_init? 18.28.07 Join Arathis2 [0] (n=doerk@p508A7524.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.29.15 # austriancoder: I would have to guess - the person who did it wanted to keep similar function calls together? 18.29.15 Quit uski ("This is a quit message virus. Please copy my text in your "quit" message.") 18.30.02 # roolku: time for a revolution 18.30.49 # austriancoder: well, as long as it is done at some point I don't mind. 18.31.09 # austriancoder: it sounded as if you wanted to remove it 18.31.54 # roolku: in the end I want to remove it.. yes.. but first I need to write a patch and find somebody to test it... 18.39.03 Quit z35 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.39.04 Join z35_1 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 18.44.37 Join jdawg [0] (n=0c115f87@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-05ca7c0f991b2699) 18.44.43 # hello all 18.45.03 # I just wanted to hop in and say I love Rockbox 18.45.12 # keep up the good work 18.45.29 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955BA30.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.45.36 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 18.45.47 Quit jdawg (Client Quit) 18.45.57 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.46.46 # Hit and run complimenting... odd, indeed. :) 18.47.37 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-010.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 18.48.18 # austriancoder: Originally the line-out volume changed with the headphone volume on ipods, but then it was decided to fix it at 0dB - so maybe whoever did that just didn't move the call... 18.49.41 # linuxstb: so changing lineout is needed every time volume gets changed? If not, can we remove this call? 18.50.46 # * gevaerts is getting worried about these things working on c200, but not on e200 18.52.58 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 18.53.50 # what things 18.54.10 # USB stack 18.54.28 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 18.55.48 # gevaerts: I can test stuff for you, but I'm not really qualified to do anything on my own 18.59.39 # rasher: could you set NUM_TRANSFER_DESCRIPTORS a bit higher in firmware/target/arm/usb-drv-pp502x.c ? That shouldn't be the problem, but... 19.00.29 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 19.00.32 # linuxstb: ? 19.01.52 # gevaerts: 40? 19.02.51 # linuxstb: I moved the serial number reading to the start of usb_core_thread(). Since control requests are now also dispatched through this thread that is guaranteed to be early enough. usb_core_init() is still called in interrupt context, but it now does nearly only memory stuff. 19.03.21 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.03.23 # rasher: should be fine 19.03.57 # gevaerts: trying now 19.04.31 # gevaerts: Nope, still this: "usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110" 19.04.47 # And then it comes up at a new device 19.05.13 # austriancoder: I'm saying it _was_ needed, but isn't now (at least on ipods). 19.05.56 # austriancoder: But don't believe anything I say about audio drivers, I'm no expert on them... I just remember that fact. 19.06.44 # rasher: can you try changing usb_core.c as follows ? Change usb_core_control_request() (near the bottom) to call usb_core_control_request_handler(req); 19.06.55 # rasher: instead of doing the queue_post() 19.07.36 # rasher: this basically moves control request handling back to interrupt context. 19.07.45 # Okay.. let me see 19.08.03 Nick Arathis2 is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A7524.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.08.39 # * gevaerts is going to have dinner now. I'll be back soon 19.09.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.09.49 Join efexpee [0] (i=Tristan@S01060012c0988732.gv.shawcable.net) 19.10.02 # how do i make ipod shuffle so that i don't need itunes to transfer songs 19.10.20 # efexpee: no idea 19.11.35 # gevaerts: That makes the sansa reboot on usb connetion 19.12.05 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.12.07 # efexpee: this is the first like I get with google: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=464522 19.12.23 # when I search for: ipod-shuffle no-itunes 19.15.41 Join replix [0] (n=replix@123-194.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 19.18.17 # how do i transfer songs to ipod without having to delete everything in ipod 19.19.00 # even using itunes 19.19.24 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955B45F.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.19.53 # Nano is 32 MB memory correct? 19.20.03 # While it might be understandable due to the nature of Rockbox, this is not an iPod support channel - nor is it an iTunes-Replacement channel. This is a channel about one specific piece of software which does not even run on your iPod Shuffle. 19.20.03 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3D802.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.24.19 # slasheri: are you here? 19.25.28 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 19.26.47 # BigBambi: Yes. 19.27.08 Join JdGordon|w [0] (i=836b004b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bc4c4f932ef88514) 19.28.59 # rasher: ok. Can you try going back to an unmodified patched version (if that isn't a contradiction), and enabling LOGF for usb-drv-pp502x.c and usb_core.c ? 19.30.38 # how to scale a video to a specified resolution? 19.31.41 # replix, virtualdub on windows 19.32.04 # and linux? 19.33.17 # mencoder for cli, avidemux for GUI 19.33.33 # not really on topic, though 19.33.44 Quit replix ("Verlassend") 19.34.28 # markun : any idea on the problem of kkurbjun fo rthe lcd ? 19.35.08 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@92.227.24.46) 19.35.35 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964DD9.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.35.54 Quit bluebrother ("bbl") 19.36.15 Join keanu [0] (n=none@unaffiliated/keanu) 19.36.25 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 19.36.35 # gevaerts: sure, but in a while 19.36.54 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.37.52 Quit FOAD ("I'll be back") 19.38.38 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF462D.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.39.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Client Quit) 19.39.43 Join Hammer89 [0] (n=matthew@host-24-225-156-82.patmedia.net) 19.40.10 # does anyone know if Rockbox will still boot properly on an e200 with the latest firmware installed? 19.40.33 # firmware = the original firmware from SanDisk 19.40.46 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 19.40.56 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 19.41.28 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 19.41.44 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=el_miep@p54BF462D.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.42.53 # i havent heard otherwise on a v1 so far 19.42.55 Join jcollie_ [0] (n=jcollie@161.210.56.14) 19.44.28 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Client Quit) 19.44.36 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=el_miep@p54BF462D.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.44.50 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 19.45.00 Quit major_works (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.46.11 # * Buschel knocks his head against his keyboard 19.46.13 # * gevaerts gets 'usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110' 19.46.29 # * gevaerts thinks Buschel has the right idea 19.46.30 # Can anyone please change FS#8603 from "bug" to "patch"? 19.48.04 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.48.11 # Buschel, can you verify FS#8601? 19.48.55 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 19.49.18 # Buschel: done 19.50.02 # * roolku decides between 3 ugly approaches 19.50.37 Join ap0 [0] (n=kvirc@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 19.53.13 # That faad warning "fix" also segfaults on x86_32 19.53.38 # Horscht: I am running a bench right now (patched svn 16260). at least i can confirm that its not happening with this version. 19.54.14 # toffe82: no idea what it could be either 19.54.22 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 19.54.48 # 16260? gonna check that, Buschel 19.55.04 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnd028.ugent.be) 19.55.57 # roolku: thanks. 19.56.12 Quit karashata (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- It'll be on slashdot one day...") 20.00.14 # see you tomorrw, was only a short visit here today 20.00.16 Quit Buschel () 20.00.27 # linuxstb: I changed the sansa version reading back to one large read like your v1 patch, and it still works 20.01.51 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m135.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 20.03.32 Join qwedsa_ [0] (n=superman@ip51ccca31.speed.planet.nl) 20.03.44 Quit mirak (SendQ exceeded) 20.04.46 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m135.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 20.06.07 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20.10.33 Quit japc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.11.52 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 20.14.40 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 20.17.24 # Since it appears that the serial number on the C200 is not on the as3514, it must be somewhere else. system-pp502x.c seems to suggest that there is an on-cpu rom. Is that mapped somewhere in the address space ? 20.17.43 Join shbla99 [0] (n=shbla99@cpe-66-75-77-20.socal.res.rr.com) 20.18.24 Part Hammer89 20.18.44 # hello. is it possible to configure rockbox so that only that last songs transfered are in the 'recently added' playlist in the database? 20.19.05 Join j8048188 [0] (n=a3f8c271@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-881111ee6cef063e) 20.19.20 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98214137@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0f5bfaee63a3c30b) 20.20.17 Quit perrikwp (Client Quit) 20.20.18 Quit qwedsa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.21.24 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.22.47 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98214137@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fe1c17c70d760824) 20.23.33 # Maybe not. 20.24.03 Quit j8048188 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.28.27 # hmm 20.28.47 # I can work around that gcc 4.2 bug by introducing a temporary variable. 20.29.09 # I wonder whether I should commit that... 20.29.43 # amiconn: better than a segfault I guess 20.30.42 Quit sandberg_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.30.43 Join replix [0] (n=replix@123-194.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 20.31.40 # Well, it might change gcc's optimisation strategy, lowering performance on target 20.31.53 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-198-103.dsl.scarlet.be) 20.32.02 # ifdef sim it then? 20.32.03 # * amiconn should probably just check the disassemblies 20.33.39 Quit andrew___ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.35.08 Quit replix (Client Quit) 20.35.25 Quit alienbiker99 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 20.37.03 # blah 20.37.19 # * amiconn found the reason for the recent slowness of his build server 20.37.55 # Looks like it's due to linux' new "completely fair scheduler", which should be called "completely crap scheduler" 20.38.20 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@137-015-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 20.38.42 # It causes my dnetc (running at nice 19) to still draw 50% cpu even if the build processes should get all available power 20.40.09 Quit waldo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.40.32 Join simonrvn_ [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 20.41.55 # bertrik: do you have a list somewhere of what scsi commands you had to implement for UMS to work everywhere (and maybe a list of what "everywhere" means in that context) ? 20.42.27 Quit simonrvn_ (Client Quit) 20.44.09 # the list i mentioned yesterday allows me to read, write and format under windows xp. IIRC it also worked for reading and writing under Linux but I have not tested that as much 20.46.08 # amiconn: the solution is to not run dnetc 20.46.34 # It worked perfectly with the old scheduler... 20.47.09 # gevaerts: do you still want me to run your latest patch with logf enabled? 20.47.20 # roolku: hi' 20.47.42 # bertrik: thanks. I guess format_unit can be fake for us ? 20.47.46 # amiconn: it's just that dnet is a pretty useless project and you're wasting precious power 20.48.06 # gevaerts: yes, I think it can be ignored 20.48.09 # rasher: yes. 20.48.12 # I wouldn't call ogr useless... and the box is running anyway 20.48.55 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 20.50.07 # gevaerts: I wonder if the OS really looks at the inquiry data to determine what SCSI commands to use 20.50.38 # * bertrik checks the code to look at the currently reported inquiry data 20.50.51 # bertrik: it should, but you never know. Anyway even then I find the specs confusing 20.52.42 # * gevaerts goes to check if windows can now format his sd card 20.55.02 # Logf time 20.55.19 # gevaerts: what kind of hardware are you developing on? 20.56.47 Join alienbiker99 [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 20.56.59 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 20.57.17 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 20.57.28 # bertrik: I have a sansa c250. 20.59.46 # /me wouldn't dream of running dnetc... 20.59.59 # Using that tempvar even saves one instruction in the function on arm. On cf it just shuffles instructions a bit, and saves one extension word 21.00.20 # gcc is crap 21.01.16 # gcc maybe crap, but its the best thing we have.. :-) 21.01.29 # yes, unfortunately :/ 21.01.36 Join jcollie__ [0] (n=jcollie@161.210.6.122) 21.01.54 # Would be niced if they cared more about non-x86 targets 21.02.51 # Or as we say in Rockbox, no ARM users care about gcc... 21.02.53 # ... patchhes are (usually) welcome... 21.03.19 # I guess ARM users use ARM's compiler. 21.04.01 # not really, there are more and more commercial dev tools (for embedded) using gcc.. 21.04.16 # gevaerts: http://rasher.dk/pub/logf.txt 21.04.21 # But those companies don't seem to be helping gcc... 21.04.34 Join replix [0] (n=replix@123-194.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 21.05.18 # yes, sadly... maybe it will get better, as there get are more companies using it.. 21.05.36 # * Domonoky speaks strange english today :-) 21.06.34 Quit jcollie_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.08.08 # rasher: can you add some logf()s to usb_core_thread ? It looks like the events get lost somewhere after usb_core_control_request() posts them on the queue. 21.09.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.09.29 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 21.11.28 Join Domonoky_ [0] (n=Domonoky@92.227.35.61) 21.13.06 # linuxstb_: wha? isn't gcc gpl? how can they not help them? 21.13.35 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 21.13.55 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.14.09 # preglow: modifying the compiler for internal use and not releasing neither binary nor source? 21.16.28 # rasher: right, i asummed they were selling dev tools 21.17.10 # most of them dont modify gcc i think, they just use it in their IDEs and such.. 21.18.11 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-39-116.dsl.telesp.net.br) 21.18.17 # preglow: even then, if their modifications are quick hacks and they are not sending clean patches upstream, their changes will get lost 21.18.50 # * gevaerts wants a license that forbids dirty hacks and only allows clean code 21.18.55 # yeah, true 21.18.58 # like Windriver (vxWorks), with a eclipse based IDE, using gcc (and another compiler) for many plattforms (arm,ppc,x86).. 21.19.03 # gevaerts: gplv4... 21.19.06 # :-) 21.19.20 # the "Clean Source Licence" :-) 21.19.42 # gevaerts: where would the fun in that be? 21.20.05 # it would pretty much exclude me from contributing too :/ 21.20.58 # Actually, the GPL states that you have to release 'the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it'. Doesn't that mean clean commented code ? 21.21.35 # not if the only code you have is the crap version without comments and full of hacks 21.21.51 # because thats still "preferred" over none 21.22.38 # I doubt you could get away with arguing like that 21.22.44 # * gevaerts didn't read anything about what this form should be preferred over 21.23.50 # why not? If this is the only version of the patch, then for sure I legally have to make that availble... but if i have a ncie version and a crap version then obviously the nice one has to be availble 21.24.07 # gevaerts: none of the logfs I enter in usb_core_thread seem to make it 21.24.08 # if there is no nice version the license cant force mne to pretty it up first 21.24.30 # forcing to have "clean commented code" would make loads of GPL software breaking license ;) 21.24.36 # i assume they mean whether you have to provide a patch, a source tree, whatever 21.24.51 # * gevaerts wishes he had kept quiet now 21.26.11 # rasher: are you still using v8? (v9 contains linuxstb's serial number code which might interfere) 21.27.18 # gevaerts: still v8 yes 21.27.47 # If you don't trust me or have better ideas, please feed me with patches 21.29.19 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@c5147518c.cable.wanadoo.nl) 21.29.23 # rasher: OK. did you check if the thread starts up ? Does it get to usb_core_control_request() ? 21.29.48 # rasher: I actually have no real idea at all. 21.29.55 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.31.46 Quit ap0 ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 21.34.02 Quit crashd_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.34.07 Join crashd_ [0] (i=foobar@lostnode.org) 21.35.53 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020710]") 21.37.15 # I can't logf from inside usb_core_control_request() 21.37.31 # I'm confused. 21.37.40 Join TradeJack [0] (n=aurum@ool-182f7087.dyn.optonline.net) 21.38.48 # rasher: Can you add a logf in control_received(void) 21.39.34 # Where's that? 21.39.36 # rasher: in usb-drv-pp502x.c, just before the call to usb_core_control_request() (and maybe also one after) ? 21.39.44 Join major_works_ [0] (n=chatzill@ool-45745dcc.dyn.optonline.net) 21.39.47 Nick major_works_ is now known as major_works (n=chatzill@ool-45745dcc.dyn.optonline.net) 21.40.06 # * gevaerts hates it when he accidentally pastes a line break 21.40.40 # rasher: control_received() is the last point we know the code reaches 21.42.32 Quit framo ("moo") 21.43.37 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m135.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 21.45.19 Quit mirak (SendQ exceeded) 21.46.02 Join framo [0] (n=framo@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 21.46.11 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m135.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 21.47.06 Quit asdrubal (Remote closed the connection) 21.47.26 Quit replix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.50.21 Join asdrubal [0] (n=abc@cpe-76-190-210-165.neo.res.rr.com) 21.50.59 Quit Siku () 21.51.36 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.52.29 Join austriancoder_ [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 21.53.34 Part hcs 21.53.34 # gevaerts: logfs both before and after the call to usb_core_control_request get recorded 21.54.22 Join joshyro [0] (n=Miranda@189.149.69.226) 21.54.30 # hi there!!! 21.54.40 Join K4rP4D [0] (n=KrPD@unaffiliated/krpd) 21.55.01 # rasher: so it has to get at the queue_post() in usb_core_control_request(), so the event must be posted. That means that something goes wrong with usb_core_thread 21.55.02 # howdy! 21.55.16 # any one knows!!! how i can to install a new plugin on my rockbox!??? ( ipod 5G) 21.55.34 Join aneka [0] (n=kvirc@66.251.27.251) 21.55.40 # im a newbie!!:$ 21.56.21 # joshyro: By writing it and compiling it into a new Rockbox build. 21.56.35 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 21.56.48 Quit parafin ("So long and thanks for all the fish") 21.56.57 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 21.58.23 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 21.58.37 # joshyro: Which plugin? If you have written one, compile it as has been said. The ones hat come with rockbox, well come with rockbox 21.59.46 # yeah i know.. but.. ive read "pictureflow" plugin on a 5.5 G... i would like try it on my 5 G... 22.00.16 # read the manual 22.00.22 # pictureflow is included 22.00.37 # As are all plugins that come with rockbox 22.02.48 # rasher: I'm going to split my patch in a series of smaller incremental steps. Maybe that will help 22.03.08 # Slasheri: I only wanted to know if you had a better idea regarding FS#8599 and if you think my solution is acceptable 22.03.58 # JdGordon|w: Actually, I can't find pictureflow in the manual 22.04.06 Join DivxTrdr [0] (n=c0ced6fe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bf22f6d6792c1870) 22.04.45 # hello, is this thing on? 22.05.00 # BigBambi: i guessed as much... but he probably hasnt read it anyway 22.05.08 # very true 22.05.09 # ive saw all the plugins on my rockbox but is missing, maybe i need to update?? 22.05.11 # gevaerts: Just give me a note when you have something 22.05.16 # DivxTrdr: Just ask 22.05.43 # joshyro: You should always be using the lastest current build (that changes many times per day) before asking for help 22.05.49 # i cant seem to connect via Mirc or Excursion using irc.freenode.net i suppose this works just as well for now 22.06.03 # DivxTrdr: That seems off topic for rockbox 22.06.15 # DivxTrdr: Sorry, I misread 22.06.34 # well, I have an Archos AV300 and i wanted to upgrade the bootloader to AVOS, but it seems that has gone by thew wayside? 22.06.56 # BigBambi: yes i will!!:$ 22.06.58 # DivxTrdr: Rockbox does not support the AV300 22.07.00 # this channel was listed as a possible place for reference regarding such projects 22.07.12 # where was it listed? 22.07.13 # DivxTrdr: This channel is for rockbox only 22.07.25 # If you want to port rockbox to it, fine 22.07.26 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.07.30 # http://www.geocities.com/daniel32708/ 22.07.39 Quit austriancoder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.07.46 # look under option #4 22.08.14 # "such projects" perhaps but not on a lot of the hardware AVOS runs/ran on 22.08.49 # I don't see that saying come here for random support 22.08.55 # DivxTrdr: Err, those instructions just instruct you to use a single tool made by Rockbox. That doesn't mean much. 22.09.06 # ok, so, this would not be the place to inquire about the AV300 for any such upgrades 22.09.12 # Nope 22.09.12 # Nope 22.09.14 # bingo 22.09.23 # Nope 22.09.24 # This would be the place to inquire about rockbox 22.09.25 # :-) 22.09.58 # sorry, thought perhaps i could get it to run on my antique AV300... looks not... take care, thanks for the help anyway! 22.13.06 Quit K4rP4D ("Leaving") 22.17.02 Quit Kupopop (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.17.58 # * amiconn now worked around that cfs issue :/ 22.18.09 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.18.19 Quit desowin () 22.18.33 Quit DivxTrdr ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.19.10 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 22.19.43 # Yeah!! ive updated my rockbox and now I can see pictureFlow.. thanks!!! 22.19.56 # amiconn: What was the workaround? 22.20.39 # roolku: hehe, nice bug :) the solution looks fine as long as it's documented enough 22.20.50 # I've added a line to my /etc/init.d/dnetc script that sets cpu_share to miminum for the dnetc user after launching the client 22.21.13 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 22.22.06 # amiconn: I have a feeling your prlbem might be related to running dnetc as a different user 22.22.07 Quit joshyro ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 22.22.17 # But this is offtopic, to be honest. 22.22.34 # It would always be a different user than rbclient 22.23.12 # And that was the problem I was *mainly* trying to solve - don't let dnetc take cycles from rbclient, as it's not meant to do that 22.23.35 # isn't dnetc an idle process? 22.25.36 # That's the idea 22.26.17 # Seems it was still getting about 50% cpu time even at a nice-level of 19 22.26.24 # yup 22.27.28 # rasher: I have split my changes into three independent parts. They are at http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/transfer_descriptors.diff , http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/threading.diff and http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/serial.diff 22.28.12 # well, that's insane... 22.28.54 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 22.29.06 # how long does it usually take to install (never installed before) using the rockboxdev.sh 22.29.06 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 22.29.11 # rasher: can you test transfer_descriptors.diff and threading.diff separately ? serial.diff is linuxstb's sansa serial number patch, shuffled around to make it not crash. Testing that would be useful as well, but less important right now 22.29.25 # alienbiker99: depends on your computer 22.29.46 # Domonoky_: around? 22.30.29 Join |aneka| [0] (n=kvirc@66.251.25.76) 22.30.54 # * rasher gets a horrible feeling 22.31.23 # yes 22.31.44 # gevaerts: I think I may just have wasted hours of your time 22.32.07 # I just changed the TTS name conversion to static functions. Any objections to this? 22.33.10 # rasher: what did you do ? 22.33.16 # Domonoky_: bluebrother: any idea how the xml file for the config settings should look like? I had a bit of a play to get it written by a script last night but failed miserably so might just convert settings_listc by hand 22.33.18 # gevaerts: I guess I should've done this: "#define USE_ROCKBOX_USB" 22.33.42 # I suck.. 22.33.47 # rasher: that would have helped... 22.33.48 # hmmm its been like an hour and half i guess 22.34.00 # gevaerts: sorry for wasting your time 22.34.19 # I'll try again with ums_v8 instead 22.34.24 # Can a dev take a look at FS#8517 please? 22.34.31 # rasher: no problem 22.34.35 # JdGordon|w: well, I need to be able to extract (a) if the setting is valid for the current player, (b) what type the setting is, (c) its limit and (d) its values for enum settings 22.34.53 # rasher: try ums_v9 while you're at it. You should have a nice and shiny serial number then 22.35.27 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216aac@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4e07bacbd71923e7) 22.35.30 # I haven't thought about this in depth yet, but maybe there could be something like yes 22.35.46 # bluebrother: also, can rbutil use the lang files? 22.35.51 # and a attribute min and max for int settings 22.36.27 # the lang files in what sense? It uses its own mechanism for localization, and it can't read Rockbox lang format 22.36.47 # we could of course add a parser for the lang sources. But what would that help with? 22.38.38 # http://pastebin.ca/901702 ? 22.38.55 # because the LANG_ id might be nicer to use than the config name 22.39.08 # might not be worth the effort though 22.39.17 # is that paste legal xml? and workable? 22.39.19 # gevaerts: hurray 22.39.36 # rasher: there's still something wrong. Why didn't you get the "normal" charging-only descriptors ? 22.39.39 # gevaerts: my serial appears to be all zeroes though 22.40.12 # JdGordon|w: well, it doesn't have a DTD but otherwise it looks workeable 22.40.15 # gevaerts: now that I don't know 22.40.29 # DTDs are evil. XMLSchema! 22.40.54 # maybe not use the attribute "cfgname" but simply "name" instead 22.41.04 # * bluebrother isn't too familiar with xml (yet) 22.41.11 # bluebrother: static functions are ok.. 22.41.18 # * JdGordon|w has nfi how proper xml is supposed to be 22.41.37 # but a default value is needed. Forgot to mention that ;-) 22.41.38 # bluebrother: also, should features go as a attribute or done like the ? 22.41.42 # JdGordon|w: nfi? 22.41.44 # using lang files in rbutil woudnt be good, rbutil doesnt have access to themm 22.41.47 # bluebrother: xmlschema is basically a dtd, except the xmlschema language is fully xml as well (and can be defined by an xmlschema) 22.41.54 # nfi = no f idea 22.42.17 # JdGordon|w: oh, so pretty much what I thought it _might_ be ;-) 22.42.51 # and good, ignoreing the LANG_* will make it easier to dump from inside rockbox 22.42.51 # * JdGordon|w failed trying to get perl to play nice 22.43.10 # hmm, I think features should go as attributes. 22.43.46 # features="lcd_color,hwcodec,..." ? 22.43.50 # * bluebrother will check his xml book later tonight 22.44.19 # can't we tie each setting to a specific feature? And define the featurelist in rbutil.ini` 22.44.22 # ? 22.44.31 # * JdGordon|w hopes features handling can do ! feature 22.44.43 # rasher: maybe put a logf() in set_serial_descriptor() to check if it gets there ? Anyway that's not too important I think. 22.44.44 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096622343.dsl.bell.ca) 22.44.59 # bluebrother: the features are already known to rockbox... they are in the rockbox-info.txt 22.45.12 # well, imo it would be nicer keeping the features with the settings so its 1 place to modify instead of two when settings are added 22.45.23 # dang, I'm quite out of the stream ... 22.46.08 # we needed the features for voicecreation, so thats why they are now in the rockbox-info.txt :-) always fitting the installed build :-) 22.46.10 # Domonoky_: committed. Encoder will come later (possibly not today anymore) 22.46.54 Quit aneka (Connection timed out) 22.46.55 # hmm, but how handle a feature that is present on various players but with different values? Like min and max value for the volume? 22.48.50 # use the target name (ie h120) as feature for such a config.. 22.49.26 # i think lang and voice also does this... at least i have to give the targetname and all feature to genlang :-) 22.49.44 # I was thinking the setting would be duplicated with different feature attirbutes so rbutil will pick the right one 22.50.37 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 22.50.48 # i.e. 22.51.07 # thought about something like that too 22.51.31 # yeah, but each setting can have multiple features 22.51.48 Quit nicktastique ("Leaving") 22.51.52 # and h100 would be the target define instead I rekon 22.54.09 # depending on the parse method, it maybe easier to not put all infos in attributes.. :-) 22.54.45 # fortunately Qt has an xml parser ;-) 22.55.12 # bluebrother: there are different parsing methods for xml: Xpath, Sax, Dom .... 22.55.23 # I think I'll just have a look into it in the next days. Hopefully I'll notice soon enough what's the easiest way :) 22.55.46 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 22.59.20 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 23.01.14 # Is anyone here testing the new rockbox USB stack on Windows ? 23.01.29 # gevaerts: yes 23.01.52 # perrikwp: does it feel slow on plugging in ? 23.02.33 Join japc [0] (n=japc@bl7-245-191.dsl.telepac.pt) 23.03.10 # gevaerts: it takes windows explorer about two minutes to display the ipod, but recognizes the usb connection right away 23.03.26 # gevaerts: I tried USB from SVN on my sansa e200 yesterday and it worked, but it took really long for explorer to list the directory 23.04.48 Quit ender` (" To err is human; to really foul things up takes a computer.") 23.05.24 # gevaerts: after it shows up I can access and modify the ipod's contents without damaging the filesystem, also transfer rates are still slow, but fine for the state usb is in for now 23.05.29 # perrikwp, bertrik: Can you try marking the .rockbox directory hidden (only the directory itself, not the contents) ? I have a suspicion that windows scans subdirectories to help it decide what icon to show, which is not a good idea on anything but a high speed device. Of course, that will probably only help if you didn't ask to see hidden directories 23.06.19 # If that hypothesis is correct, that would also help explain why vista is even slower : as far as I know they want even more eye-candy there 23.06.53 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 23.06.55 # I can't imagine it being _that_ slow because of directory scans, but I'll try 23.07.01 # gevaerts: I'm using Vista 23.07.23 # should I use SVN or some kind of patch? 23.07.52 # bertrik: svn is fine for this one. 23.08.05 # gevaerts, i have vista or xp or linux and an e200 series if you need help there 23.08.43 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 23.09.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.09.10 Quit karashata (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?") 23.09.28 Join dannymill000 [0] (n=danrules@cpe-74-67-222-39.twcny.res.rr.com) 23.10.07 Quit jcollie ("Ex-Chat") 23.10.35 Quit jcollie__ (Client Quit) 23.10.44 # could someone help me with the dictionary for rockbox? 23.11.01 # advlaptop2019: if you are already running a usb-enabled build I'd welcome some test results, but if not it's not probably not really worth it just for testing this issue. Note that although I have very few or no problems with the usb build, I still heavily recommend backups... 23.11.22 # gevaerts: Hiding .rockbox makes no difference in speed to connect 23.11.23 # perrikwp> gevaerts: I'm using Vista 23.11.53 # perrikwp: do you have many files on it otherwise ? 23.13.07 # gevaerts, o ok.. because i do not have a way to try to build one anyway.. so i can wait 23.13.19 # gevaerts: 253 files in 12 folders, with 10 MB of space left on the ipod 23.13.56 # gevaerts: Windows XP and Vista also scan an entire device to try to determine if it should suggest "Play Videos" "Play Music" "View Pictures" or other things on connect 23.14.10 # gevaerts: seems to make it a little faster for me on windows xp 23.14.51 Quit bluebrother ("back tomorrow") 23.15.13 # perrikwp: any chance of trying without those files (don't do it if it's too much hassle for you...) 23.15.56 # gevaerts: its perfectly fine, the ipod is my back up player anyways 23.16.00 # Llorean: true. I should have remembered that. That would give the same effect 23.16.12 Quit ender` (" I will never build a sentient computer smarter than I am.") 23.16.23 # gevaerts: copying a 7MB file takes about 35 seconds 23.18.18 # bertrik: that's 200k/second. I'm seeing slightly over 400k/s on linux, but you might have had one of our infamous resets (those take 30 seconds on linux, windows probably also does something similar but I don't know their timeout) 23.18.49 Quit pondlife (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.19.28 # can someone tell me where to find files for the dictionary? 23.19.33 # perrikwp: if an empty player connects quickly, that would confirm that it's just a "normal" performance issue, and not some missing functionality 23.22.50 # gevaerts: didn't help; still took 2 mins to display ipod 23.23.29 # I'll run a USBCV session, should take less than 1/2 an hour to set up 23.24.38 # perrikwp: it might still look inside .rockbox. It's probably possible to remove most files there, but that might be difficult to get right. 23.25.41 # bertrik: I'm guessing we will probably still fail spectacularly. It would be interesting though 23.26.01 # could someone tell me where i can find the dictionary files? 23.26.12 # dannymill000: wiki 23.27.28 # gevaerts: well it might not make much difference, now the only thing in the ipod is the .rockbox directory, 98% of hard drive is free space 23.27.48 # bertrik: can you mail me the the usbcv report file when you're done, or post it on flyspray ? 23.28.10 # dannymill000: or you apply #6697 and use one of stradict dictionaries 23.28.31 # ouch, not a single test passes... maybe I incorrectly set up something 23.29.25 Quit Domonoky_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.29.36 # perrikwp: on my sansa, .rockbox has 377 files and directories. That's more than the number of audio files you removed. I suspect the problem is more the number of files than the actual size, so this would still be significant. 23.30.01 # I'll upload the results to http://bertrik.sikken.nl/rockbox/ 23.30.03 # bertrik: Was that the UMS test suite ? If you're in there, can you run chapter 9 as well ? 23.30.22 # gevaerts: no i started with the ch9 suite, didn't try the ums suite yet 23.30.46 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m170.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 23.31.33 # bertrik: did you put a hub in between ? We are enumerating as full speed and claiming high-speed capability. That might make a difference 23.31.50 # gevaerts: ok I'll try removing all the uneeded rockbox files and see how long it takes to connect 23.32.13 # gevaerts: yes, I use a high-speed hub, I think the test software won't work without a high speed hub 23.33.01 # bertrik: for high speed devices it does. Full/low speed devices need the hub. That's because the test software only has a special ehci driver, and no uhci or ohci. 23.33.33 # aha, that makes a lot of sense 23.34.15 Join newton [0] (n=newton@c-abbae455.61-0056-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 23.37.02 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B164335.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.37.32 # amiconn: you should probably report your issue with the CFS (although it might be fixed in a more recent kernel) 23.39.07 # bertrik: can you try setting bcdUSB in the device descriptor in usb_core.c to 0x110 ? 23.39.13 # hi! i just want to say i like rockbox and used it for some time on my iAudio X5L :) only now when i resume playback i get about 0.5sec white noise before playback runs on like normal (r16293) 23.39.56 # ok, I'll try that. Can't make the USBCV work without the hub so far. 23.41.59 # JdGordon|w: what's the XML thing you're working on? 23.43.19 Join SSnake [0] (n=dfsff@host-84-220-54-35.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) 23.43.29 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096622343.dsl.bell.ca) 23.43.41 # good evening everyone 23.44.05 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S0106001d6046900d.cg.shawcable.net) 23.44.20 # bertrik: I'll set that as well for the next patch. It doesn't actually make anything work better, but it stops windows telling you to find a high-speed port 23.44.45 # finally i finished my porting..... 23.45.00 # a new game will hit rockbox soon...stay tuned :> 23.45.34 # SSnake: battle for wesnoth ? :-) 23.45.34 # gevaerts: ok now i only have 11 files on the ipod and it still took ~2mins to display in explorer 23.45.42 # what's? 23.46.04 # it's and old school platform game....ported from linux to rockbox 23.46.07 # perrikwp: I will need to find a vista PC at work so I can actually see what it's doing. 23.46.43 # gevaerts: any software i can get to help you 23.47.17 # it was really a nightmare to the adapt the button handling because my h300 lack simultaneous diagonal button pressing 23.47.26 # Nico_P: we want to get a config editor into rbutil.. the xml would be rbutils version of settings_list.c 23.47.36 # ah ok. nice 23.47.43 # perrikwp: not really. There are some vista PC's around, there is a usb tracer, so it's just a matter of putting everything together 23.47.47 Quit newton ("going down...") 23.47.59 # does anyone know if the ipod color lacks simultaneous button too? 23.48.09 # JdGordon|w: I guess the XML file would have to be kept in sync with settings_list.c, wouldn't it? 23.48.19 # yep 23.48.21 # gevaerts: ok, happy to had helped 23.48.33 # shouldnt be too much hassle once the XML is created 23.48.40 # JdGordon|w: maybe a crasy idea, but couldn't settings_list.c be generated from the XML? 23.48.42 # new options arent added very often 23.48.58 # thats a possibility 23.49.05 # gevaerts: I changed both bcdUSB occurances in usb_core.c from 0x200 to 0x110, but still all tests fail. The 'otherspeed' tests are skipped now and I think they were run last time with bcdUSB=0x200 23.49.17 # except the callback stuff which is at the top of settings_list.c might be nasty 23.49.40 # I don't know the file, that's why I don't know if the idea would be crazy or not 23.49.40 # ah, we have an USB tracer? 23.50.10 # its not completly out of the question.. but probably not needed anyway 23.50.16 # indeed 23.50.47 # SSnake: On the ipods, you can detect touches of the clickwheel at different locations - so you can have 8 virtual buttons (Rockboy does that). 23.50.59 # I think I'll need to reduce usb_max_pkt_size to 64 too 23.51.39 # bertrik: Can you still mail me the result ? Maybe it gives some hints. I'll have a look at work tomorrow to see if I can find something. 23.52.01 # bertrik: where ? It shouldn't set anything higher anywhere. 23.52.33 # @linuxstb: uao, too bad i don't have one. I'lltry to get one from a friend of mine and test it 23.53.31 # just to avoid wasting time: can you point me to a good plugin too look for in which clickwheel is used the way i need? 23.55.34 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 23.55.39 # lostlogic: what do you think of http://pastebin.ca/899310? 23.55.45 # SSnake: Rockboy... 23.56.36 # lostlogic: it solves a problem where the buffering thread wouldn't use an opportunity to rebuffer 23.56.48 # and even cause problems on targets 23.57.14 # @linux: thanks 23.57.15 # Nico_P: yeah, the old code did something similar 23.57.37 # Nico_P: I don't have a problem with it, I assume that the callback is conditional upon that handle not being a type that is immediately fully buffered? 23.57.40 # lostlogic: it's a bit of a replacement for the ata callback 23.57.47 # *nod* 23.57.52 # helps any way yeah 23.58.42 # Q_HANDLE_ADDED is posted to the queue by bufopen, so it will only get posted by handles that need buffering yeah