--- Log for 13.02.108 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 11 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.27 # lostlogic: the only potential problem I see with this is that it interrupts buffer_handle each time a handle is added 00.00.27 # is it possible that the disk access on the e200 can happen completly before the statusbar can be updated so the icon isnt shown? iirc the status bar is updated HZ/10 in the menus... 00.00.40 Quit crope` ("Leaving") 00.00.48 Join crope` [0] (n=crope@dyn3-82-128-184-118.psoas.suomi.net) 00.00.53 # bertrik: that's actually not too bad I think. The Interface Descriptor test is my fault. I assumed we didn't need that. Halt Endpoint is not implemented but shouldn't be too hard, and other speed is easy. 00.02.04 # bertrik: for the MSC tests : the latest patch supports serial numbers, and it says you aborted all others. 00.02.14 # Nico_P: it's a quick bounce, calculate the code path, should only be about 20 instructions 00.02.30 # gevaerts: those are old tests from november... 00.02.39 # lostlogic: yeah, shouldn't be much of a problem 00.03.37 # bertrik: ok. I'm blind... 00.05.32 Quit dannymill000 ("Procrastinators Unite...tomorrow") 00.07.45 Quit desowin () 00.10.12 # No idea why all tests fail, the USBCV does find the sansa on the bus so at least the device descriptor can be fetched, I'll try some more tomorrow 00.10.16 # hoe long does a db update usually take on a 2gb sansa? 00.10.17 Quit bertrik ("off to sleep") 00.10.23 # hoe=how 00.11.50 # bertrik: Don't spend too much time on it. Do they say anything at all ? 00.13.30 # gevaerts: He left... 00.14.10 # * gevaerts thinks bertrik has the right idea 00.14.22 # linuxstb: I noticed. 00.15.13 # linuxstb: I plan to run the tests for myself tomorrow anyway. 00.16.09 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 00.18.09 Quit karashata (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.") 00.18.52 # Nico_P: Have you ever looked at the albumart-smooth_resize* patches? 00.19.00 # * gevaerts goes to sleep as well, before any new issue comes up to keep him awake for three more hours 00.19.06 # kugel: I have a few days ago 00.19.08 Quit gevaerts ("good night") 00.19.23 # haven't looked at the latest version though 00.19.50 # it might be my limited C knowledge, but the later versions doesn't look good to me 00.20.24 Join female [0] (n=dandbcoo@c-68-41-156-13.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.20.29 # kugel: why? 00.20.51 # I am trying to compile the rockboxutility, but when i run qmake in the rbutilqt directory, i just get a general qmake help 00.21.31 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.21.36 # The guide says "Then you run the command qmake and then make in the rbutilqt folder" 00.21.36 # if I understand it correctly, he introduces a function get_bmp_size to get the size of the bmp. Doesn't read_bmp_fd do that allready? 00.22.14 # I haven't looked very much in the bmp.[ch] code though 00.23.15 # kugel: yes, read_bmp_fd gets you the size, but also does much more. It's not suited for when you only want to know the size 00.23.53 # ah, that makes sense 00.25.03 # Shouldn't the size of the albumart be allready stored somewhere? 00.27.14 # depends what albumart you're talking about 00.27.25 # the non-resized of coursed 00.27.28 # -d 00.28.05 # where would the size of that be stored? 00.28.09 # it's loaded with or without albumart_resize 00.28.34 # Nico_P: I don't know, but the size is needed, since it's loaded into the buffer, isn't it? 00.30.21 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 00.30.24 # IngenAning: you can run qmake in the rbutil directory, i think 00.30.32 # i just did it, works fine 00.31.01 # as long as there's a .pro file there, it means you can run qmake 00.31.24 # IngenAning: just run qmake once (it should return 1 line, not interesting). Now run make and it should compile 00.31.54 # Can someone help with the rockbox utility? I clicked "complete installation", then for some reason it thinks i already have the bootloader, but this is my first time running it.. then it fails if i say to install it anyway, and if i skip the step, the download fails (it reports "received HTPP error n" where n is an arbitrary number, because it changes each time i try) 00.31.54 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.32.40 # kugel: the bitmap that ends up in the buffer is the resized one 00.33.03 # IngenAning: which rbutil version are you running? 00.33.28 Quit dreeft ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 00.33.38 # From http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/linux/rbutilqt-v1.0.2.tar.bz2 00.33.47 # Nico_P: I've looked into the patch, and it looked to me like both were loaded into the bufffer 00.33.52 # correct me if I'm wrong 00.34.08 # version m1.0.2 / r15191 00.34.24 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 00.35.17 # kugel: when a resize is needed, the original bmp is loaded to the WPS image buffer, then the resize is called with a destination bitmap that is in the audio buffer (i.e. MoB) 00.35.25 # Nico_P: Should buffering.c change at all? I imagine that the buffering stays the same, just the bmp sent to the buffer is another 00.35.48 # hm 00.35.51 # IngenAning: the "complete installation" in that version has a bug, try installing bootloader and build seperately (I think someone said yesterday that it is on a different tab, never tried myself) 00.36.04 # I think I begin to get it 00.36.07 # the function he changes in buffering.c is the one that handles loading a bitmap. I agree it should be moved elsewhere but it's not very easy 00.36.29 # * n1s would like to commit FS#8567 tomorrow and want to hear any complaints before, it basically means that gcc is required to build manuals and "make manual" must be used to make the regular pdf manuals. 00.37.00 # the resize patch is really starting to look good to me... I should consider commiting it soon 00.37.39 # Nico_P: but w/o the smooth scaling, right? 00.37.54 # no, with smooth scaling. It's not much use without it 00.38.07 # For "select your device in the file system" -- is this the mount point, or something in /dev ? 00.38.15 # I already have a patch that cleanly adds smooth scaling to the core 00.38.21 # I heard it increases the bin size by 4KiB 00.38.52 # I believe you told that. Could you clean it up? Cool 00.38.52 # it does, but last I heard it still was a wanted feature (and the binsize hit apparently can be reduced a bit) 00.38.56 # * preglow wonders how much core jpeg decoding will add 00.39.05 Quit ch4os_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.39.18 Join jac0b [0] (n=jac0b@user-1120k9e.dsl.mindspring.com) 00.39.24 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 00.40.16 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203-206-99-87.dyn.iinet.net.au) 00.42.31 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.43.38 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 00.44.01 # n1s: is it normal that when compiling the manual with the patch it complaints about missing config.h and button.h somewhere in the beginning? I get a pdf though in the end 00.44.37 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=4b596e6d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d825f4e591a4f9e4) 00.44.42 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 00.45.16 # but a nice side effect, you don't get the mkinfo.pl complaint with "make manual" 00.45.25 # pixelma: no it shouldn't do that, did you rerun configure? 00.45.42 # humm... no, just a "make clean" 00.45.50 # ah, try that then 00.46.01 Quit ender` (" Our chances of being caught by the RIAA or IFPI are somewhat less than being hit by lightning - or choking on a wasabi-flav") 00.46.36 # The include paths were to the manual dir to make a regular "make" build a manual in a slightly hacky way... 00.46.54 # I had to change them back to get those header files 00.48.16 # /manual/feature.tex should tell you if everything works. 00.48.35 # s/feature/features 00.49.43 # on SVN I am getting this error "svn: Decompression of svndiff data failed" 00.50.16 # n1s: ok, that fixed it and features.tex looks good :) 00.50.27 # great 00.50.43 # should I just retry? 00.51.54 # Nico_P: Correct me if I'm wrong! The latest albumart-smooth_resize calculates the size of the source bmp in bmp.c, it calculates the size of the resized bmp in albumart.c, and the final resizing is done in buffering.c 00.52.20 # kugel: and? 00.52.38 # that doesn't make much sense to me :/ 00.52.59 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 00.53.16 # For me it would make more sense, if the size of resized bmp would calculated after resizing with the same function the source bmp size was calculated 00.53.26 # putting the func that calculates the size of a bitmap in bmp.c makes perfect sense. Where you then use it doesn't matter in the least 00.53.27 # and buffering would stay the same 00.54.31 Quit obo ("bye") 00.54.33 # Nico_P: the extra function for calculating the resized bmp is not needed imo 00.54.35 # kugel: why would we need to calculate the size of the resized bmp? we know it, since we decide which size we want it to be 00.54.49 # and we need to know which size to resize to 00.55.21 # Nico_P: size in terms of bytes 00.55.54 Quit ol_schoola () 00.56.18 # we have to know the size (bytes) of the resized bmp before resizing? 00.56.56 # yes. to know whether we have enough space to store it. 00.58.01 # enough space? 00.58.30 # hmm 00.58.37 # in memory, yes 00.59.15 # we can't just write the resized bitmap and hope for the best. plus get_albumart_size also tells us which size to resize to 01.01.05 # well 01.01.18 # I think I got something wrong then 01.02.08 # I allways thought the space for the album art is fixed, i.e. the size of a bmp with max supported dimensions 01.02.35 # But, I haven't looked too deep in the code yet, so I might have missed it 01.02.59 # no. that's an old approach. now it's stored in the audio buffer, since it was committed MoB 01.03.17 # *with* MoB 01.03.23 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 01.03.31 Part billytwowilly ("Konversation terminated!") 01.03.39 Quit jac0b ("Ex-Chat") 01.04.25 # yea, I'm aware of that 01.05.02 # but I wasn't aware of that that the size must be known before buffering 01.05.03 # so I don't understand what you were thinking, with the fixed dims 01.05.19 # you should look at the SVN albumart handling code 01.05.24 # must be known exactly 01.05.58 # it would be a huge waste to just allocate the max possible size 01.06.38 # I looked into albumart.c and I couldn't find where the size is calculated 01.07.16 # anyway, thanks for clarification 01.07.16 # load_bitmap (in buffering.c) just writes the bitmap to the audio buffer and then says "I just wrote X bytes to the buffer" 01.09.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.09.19 # so it doesn't really need to know the size beforehand. but in the patch we do in order to know if we need to resize 01.09.40 # ah 01.09.46 # see, that was my point 01.10.31 # But I understand, that the size should be known before with resizing, in order to not waste cpu time on resizing 01.10.42 # Is there a way, if i am playing an entire album, that i can go from "track view" to album view? like.. to see my progression through the album, so i see a list of tracks, with the current track hilighted 01.11.27 # IngenAning: are you playing the album from the database of from the filetree? 01.11.49 # no wait. You need to know the size before resizing in "order know if we need to resize"? 01.12.05 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=Miranda@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 01.12.56 # kugel: yes. you need to know the size of the bitmap file you have (with get_bmp_size), and the size it needs to be displayed as (with get_albumart_size) 01.13.14 # I thought the dimensions of the album art file and the dimensions in the wps tell us if we need to resize, and not the size of the resized bmp 01.13.21 # Nico_P: database 01.14.06 # size in terms of bytes 01.14.36 # size in bytes and in pixels are very much the same 01.15.08 # IngenAning: AFAIK it's not possible in the DB 01.15.19 # from the tree it would be "follow playlist" 01.15.33 # So you compare the size in bytes to determine if resize is needed? 01.15.35 # so what is the different between the tree and database? 01.15.48 # also for some reason, all of the files that i thought i deleted are still in the database.. 01.15.57 # songs rather 01.16.23 # IngenAning: database uses id3-tags, tree uses filenames 01.16.33 # kugel: no. you look at the size in pixels. but you also need to know the size in bytes to see if there is enough memory to store it 01.16.54 # you said you need to know the size in bytes to know if resize is neede 01.17.43 # I wasn't talking about the size in bytes, although we do need to know about that one too 01.17.55 # get_albumart_size tells us both 01.19.13 # kugel: I think you need to look at the patch more closely. I'm not saying there are no mistakes, but the principle looks sound to mle 01.20.28 Quit n1s () 01.21.36 # it's quite confusing for me at the moment 01.21.44 # I mean our talk 01.23.13 # you said, as of now we don't need to know the size (in bytes) of the album art ("it doesn't really need to know the size beforehand"). But know it does? and even before resizing? 01.23.30 # but know it does means with resizng 01.24.24 Part toffe82 01.25.06 # uh, "But know it does?" should read "But with resizing it does?" actually 01.25.08 # in current SVN, read_bmp_fd is told how much free space there is, and will take care of not writing more than that. It will only succed if it has enough to write the whole bitmap 01.25.49 # with the resizing version, we need to do the check ourselves before calling the resizing func 01.26.08 # because that function will just blindly write what it has to 01.26.57 # ah, so the check is preferred anyway, it's just not implemented in SVN? 01.27.15 # it is. but it's in read_bmp_fd 01.27.28 # only we don't use that when we reisze 01.27.38 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 01.28.08 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.28.19 # I don't see where the current svn checks before writing 01.29.06 # any sansa users here? 01.29.13 Quit crzyboyster ("CGI:IRC") 01.29.18 # in buffering.c:844 we calculate how much free space the audio buffer has. in 845 we call read_bmp_fd with that value. read_bmp_fd will fail if the bitmap is too big 01.29.34 # When I put music into a folder other than /music/ it will become corrupted 01.29.53 # kugel: the "free" veriable 01.29.58 Part pixelma 01.30.00 # oh it will fail 01.30.05 # yes! 01.31.03 # Is there a way to add a chess opening book to the chessbox app ? 01.31.15 # I read this lines just now, and I thought it's just in order to have the return value stating the correct value of bytes that have been written. I didn't know that read_bmp_fd will actually fail, and thus load_bmp too 01.31.39 # that's what I've been trying to say 01.31.41 # Nico_P: thank you, I think I got it 01.32.04 # how do i transfer songs to ipod without having to delete everything in ipod 01.32.24 # efexpee: just add them where you want 01.32.28 # Nico_P: if you told me earlier that read_bmp_fd will fail 01.32.43 # [01:25] in current SVN, read_bmp_fd is told how much free space there is, and will take care of not writing more than that. It will only succed if it has enough to write the whole bitmap 01.33.26 # I got this sentence wrong 01.33.55 # I read read_bmp_fd will tell us how much space the bmp will need 01.34.01 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.34.25 # Anyway, great that you helped me out. 01.34.33 # you're welcome ;) 01.34.38 # * Nico_P should get to bed now 01.34.58 # Nico_P: Same here, but I couldn't sleep without this issue cleared ;) 01.35.10 # hehe I know the feeling 01.35.44 Quit roolku () 01.36.04 # I'm a coder at all. I just need more C experience and get to know rockbox source better. 01.36.37 # but actually, I had no idea of C at all 4 month ago. rockbox is teaching me 01.36.47 # I started the same way a few years ago 01.37.13 # for learning the source code I recommend using an IDE that can take you to the definition of a symbol or show you call graphs 01.37.21 Quit JdGordon|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01.37.28 # cool, looks like you're the jedi and i am the padawan 01.37.42 # I use kscope (basically kate with cscope) 01.37.48 Join JdGordon|w [0] (i=836b004b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9035c70c87a48c3c) 01.38.00 # never used a IDE actually 01.38.09 # sounds like a good idea though. 01.38.21 # However, kate's bugging me quite a lot. 01.39.05 # you can use cscope in vim and probably emacs, but I don't know how well it is integrated. also maybe there is a similar gnome app 01.39.18 # the advantage of kscope is that it was built around cscope 01.39.40 # just installed it 01.40.32 # * Nico_P goes to bed 01.40.39 # good night 01.40.43 # thanks :) 01.40.45 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.42.01 Part efexpee 01.42.03 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.46.32 Quit JdGordon|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01.46.40 Quit herrwaldo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.47.01 Join JdGordon|w [0] (i=836b004b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-66221b2591edb8be) 01.48.22 Join Kizle [0] (n=Kizzle@adsl-153-82-12.mia.bellsouth.net) 01.51.52 # So where do i put my music on my new rockbox device, and how do i put it there? 01.53.56 # wherever you want and however you want. 01.54.00 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.56.44 Quit conando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.58.41 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216aac@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-02a9a1467bf2a81d) 02.00.25 # ls 02.01.26 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096622343.dsl.bell.ca) 02.02.32 Quit Ave (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.11.21 Quit JdGordon|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.23.58 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.24.18 # if i enabled last.fm support, how does it sync up? 02.26.01 Join austriancoder__ [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 02.26.45 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LastFMLog 02.26.56 # might I recommend QTScrobbler? 02.31.19 Quit z35_1 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.31.26 Part TradeJack 02.31.40 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 02.40.34 Quit austriancoder_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.40.37 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 02.42.28 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020710]") 03.04.16 Quit karashata (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 03.05.03 Join Ave [0] (i=ave@a91-152-238-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 03.05.21 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.06.47 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.08.31 Quit shbla99 ("Leaving") 03.09.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.10.52 Quit major_works ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 03.15.15 Quit hannesd (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.15.49 Join EsotericWisp [0] (n=42f95557@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-78904b1a86a9d35a) 03.16.26 # AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! 03.16.44 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-74-29.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) 03.17.16 # ROCKBOX KILLED MY IPOD TOUCH 03.17.35 # I AM SUING YOU ALL 03.18.22 # UNLESS YOU CAN HELP 03.18.33 # rockbox doesnt even work ont he ipod touch..and please stop using caps 03.20.03 # no dip it dosent work. it killed my ipod touch 03.20.14 # and how would it do that? 03.21.11 # I transferred the files but when it started it said that rockbox had a memory error on sector 0000000000001 03.21.12 Quit EsotericWisp ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.21.50 # oh noes! they gfigured out im lieing.. i better dc! 03.22.18 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9og.cable.mindspring.com) 03.23.12 Join EsotericWisp [0] (n=4a8e5616@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-99497ed1f29e306f) 03.23.29 Join austriancoder_ [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 03.23.37 # EsotericWisp: what you are saying is impossible...the bootloader simply cant be installed on the touch 03.23.54 # I am still suing 03.23.57 # bnbnn 03.23.58 # n 03.23.58 # n 03.23.58 DBUG Enqueued KICK EsotericWisp 03.23.58 # n 03.23.58 # go for it 03.23.58 *** Alert Mode level 1 03.23.58 *** Alert Mode level 2 03.23.58 # n 03.23.59 *** Alert Mode level 3 03.23.59 *** Alert Mode level 4 03.23.59 # n 03.24.00 *** Alert Mode level 5 03.24.00 # nn 03.24.21 # are you sure. 03.24.40 # we'll glady refund your money 03.24.58 # and considering your lieing youll lose the case anyway 03.25.03 # good 03.25.30 # No. i am serious. it half booted and then failed 03.25.46 # no, you arent....now are you done yet? 03.25.49 # no your lieing... its im[possible to run any rockbox code on a touch 03.26.07 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b34d08b6072fee4a) 03.26.09 # unless you figured out how...we would love to know 03.26.26 Quit IngenAning ("Lost terminal") 03.26.26 # NO YOU UGLY BUTT I AM NOT LIENG 03.26.39 # YOU ALL SUCK 03.26.44 # ok, so take a photo of your touch with this mystieries error 03.26.52 # fine 03.27.23 # let me go get my camera... 03.28.04 # Gentlemen, I have here an iHP-120 with a Compact Flash card in it. 03.28.15 # What is it about the language he is using? 03.28.34 # Davide-NYC: nice :) 03.28.37 # I didn't know that ihp-120s had cf card slots. 03.28.47 # It mounts as a USB drive on my windos machine, but gives me an ATA -80 error 03.28.59 # when booting to Rockbox 03.29.01 # the ata init is probably different? 03.29.23 # I know nothing of these things and was hoping for a quick assist. 03.29.24 # isnt there a patch to get CF working with ipods? you may have to use that or similar 03.29.59 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 03.29.59 # * Davide-NYC looking 03.30.09 # I hate to ask, but I feel 8496 is niglected. It fixes a spelling mistake. 03.30.26 # It is on the wiki's MiniCF topic. 03.32.00 # And 8359 should be closed; it was superceded by another patch commit. 03.32.22 # Davide-NYC: looks like a simple enough patch... although im guessing there is more to it that that 03.32.29 # where did you get the adaptor? 03.32.40 # JdGordon: fleabay 03.32.52 # k 03.33.11 # ther is also this little nugget which has my attention. http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15355.0 03.34.01 *** Alert Mode OFF 03.34.24 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 03.35.06 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 03.35.07 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-247-090.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.35.17 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-247-090.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.38.00 Quit austriancoder__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.38.33 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 03.40.14 # Confused (as always)... shouldn't I remove the entire sleep portion of the ata.c file? 03.40.27 # Ok i got it. how do I submit it 03.40.33 # the picture 03.41.38 # EsotericWisp, you use your own host and paste the link here 03.41.41 # EsotericWisp: use an image host service and tell us the link 03.41.45 # JdGordon: the patch modifies ata.c with the following: #if !defined(IPOD_NANO) && !defined(IPOD_MINI) && !defined(IPOD_MINI2G) 03.42.15 # Davide-NYC: dunno... try it and see what happens 03.42.38 # finding out what ATA -80 is would probably be a good start 03.42.47 # well, to me that IF ends up being TRUE for my iRiver H120 and the rest of that code execute... 03.43.06 # where would I look for a definition of ATA -80? 03.43.31 # google, its probably a generic value, not rockbox specific 03.43.52 # nope 03.43.54 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12330.msg114960#msg114960 03.44.06 # that's what google give (LOL) 03.44.31 # * Davide-NYC waiting for make 03.44.32 # http://www.easysite.com/cepron under pictures 03.44.34 Part SSnake 03.44.43 # EsotericWisp: sendspace.com is a good host 03.45.10 # EsotericWisp: seriously.. how stupid do you think we are? 03.45.12 # hahaha....a build from 2005? 03.45.27 # LOL 03.45.34 # roflmao 03.45.41 # VERY stupid 03.45.48 # apparently 03.45.56 # what's all the fun? I'm blind so cannot see the pic 03.46.00 # your not the same guy who brought us HFS+ support are you? 03.46.02 # It doesn't even line up. No attempt to perspective correct. 03.46.26 # EsotericWisp: so now that we have had our laughs, are you done here, or must i shoo you away? 03.46.30 # My cammera is a little buggy... 03.46.44 # and make me lleave 03.46.52 # i dare you 03.46.54 # * JdGordon has no idea what target that is a photo of.. 03.46.56 Mode "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 03.46.57 # ok 03.46.58 # Totally amateur fake cut'n'paste photochop job. 03.46.59 # bye 03.47.01 Kick (#rockbox EsotericWisp :Kick!) by scorche!i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche 03.47.10 # thanks scorche 03.47.16 # that was brilliant though it made my night :) 03.47.23 # thats going to GoldenQuotes 03.47.27 # indeed 03.47.45 Join andrew_ [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142162074449.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 03.47.58 Join EsotericWisp [0] (n=4a8e5616@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a6be12da18ee6970) 03.48.10 # post the pic to the page too! 03.48.34 # Here he comes again... 03.48.52 # what target is that photo from? 03.48.53 # well, of course...it was only a kick.. 03.49.06 # ipod touch 03.49.06 # Or was it stretched before horribly edited? 03.49.09 # it was gimp btw 03.49.22 # EsotericWisp: are you going to behave now? 03.49.28 # and the photo was frim an ipod nano 03.49.50 Quit csc` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.49.52 # and I think it is a pretty good job 03.49.56 # cant be a nano 03.50.08 # Video? 03.50.09 # I've met my match as far as weird people. 03.50.13 # * scorche awaits an answer 03.50.14 # h300 03.50.28 # thats the only colour target from 05 03.50.47 # EsotericWisp what is the disk size? 03.50.59 # 8 gb--- 03.51.34 # And i wont leave untill 7 people compliment my work 03.51.39 # !!! 03.51.40 # your a moron 03.51.43 # go away 03.51.46 # 1 03.51.47 # is that a "no, i wont behave"? 03.52.02 # no that is a i want reconition 03.52.08 # thing 03.52.09 Mode "#rockbox +b *!*4a8e5616@* " by scorche (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 03.52.14 Kick (#rockbox EsotericWisp :Kick!) by scorche!i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche 03.52.24 Join EsotericWisp [0] (n=42f95557@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-54c235fd9dd88110) 03.52.35 Mode "#rockbox +b *!*42f95557@* " by scorche (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 03.52.41 # get him scorche! hell yeh :) 03.52.42 # EsotericWisp: you've won a place in the golden quote page that's for sure 03.53.11 Mode "#rockbox +b %*!*42f95557@* " by scorche (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 03.54.36 # What do these lines mean when the say, "*** mode/#rockbox [+b %*!*42f95557@*] by scorche"? 03.54.54 # Guys... I need help here for one sec. I applied the ata.c patch and still have this ATA error -80 problem. I presume that I need to modify ata.c starting at line 909. 03.57.51 Quit EsotericWisp (Client Quit) 03.58.04 # Line 909 says #ifndef IPOD_NANO ... if I wanted to add the H120 what would I write? 04.00.44 # or I can just delete that chunk of code. (crosses fingers) 04.02.33 # Davide-NYC: do you get the error on the bootloader or after the firmware is loaded? 04.02.47 # bootloader 04.03.20 # so you are sure that you get the error before the firmware is run? 04.03.42 # This is what it says: "ATA error: -80 Insert USB cable and press a button" 04.03.59 # then it could be quite tricky to fix it, you will have to flash your h100 with a new bootloader that you have modified 04.04.05 Mode "#rockbox +b *!n=Apoligym@74-142-86-22.dhcp.insightbb.com " by scorche (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 04.04.05 Warn Banlist contains 18 bans! 04.04.14 # hehe 04.04.14 # * scorche boggles 04.04.23 # logbot: never seen you say that :) 04.04.33 # yeah quite a pleasant surprise 04.05.42 # yes, this error is seen even before the bootloader message (version and battery level messages) 04.06.08 # Davide-NYC: what ever you do if you try to flash a new bootloader don't every try to change the code that loads the OF, start hacking after that point 04.06.28 # Did someone bann eseteric wisp? 04.06.39 # Davide-NYC: have you got your H100 flashed with Slasheri's bootloader? 04.06.42 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 04.06.59 # XavierGr: OK. I will take note of that. No, I am usung the official Version 6 04.07.03 # *using 04.08.08 # I use the H120 for recording a lot and a silent device would be wonderful. 04.08.13 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 04.09.06 # Davide-NYC: of course I assume that you know the risks of bricking your unit if you tamper the bootloader? 04.09.30 # Yes I do. Question: Should I expect the OF to recognize a fully supported CF card? Maybe it's just the card... 04.09.38 # I would ask some help from Linus before hacking it 04.09.51 # Davide-NYC: no i shouldn't expect the OF to boot if rockbox can't 04.09.53 # did you try? 04.09.58 # It does. 04.10.10 # But it shows 000files and 000folders 04.10.19 # even though I transfered files to the card. 04.10.23 # That's what happens when it doesn't recognize the disk 04.10.28 # It'll do that if you format it NTFS 04.10.30 # ah yes the OF boots even without a disk 04.10.32 # FAT32 04.10.46 # The card came FAT and I formatted to FAT32 04.10.47 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 04.10.48 # so it will boot even if it has problems with the cf card 04.11.11 # to the OF yes. It will boot even if you have no HD in the unit or even a bad HD 04.11.26 # FM will work, etc. 04.11.47 # trying a scandisk 04.13.40 Mode "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 04.14.20 # scandisk = no love 04.15.54 # I cannot mess with the bootloader. I just can't. I will first attempt this in another player, then with another card. It would be nice to know exactly what to look for when ordering one of these. 04.16.13 Join PimpIntheFlesh [0] (n=BigaloGi@cpe-76-190-185-74.neo.res.rr.com) 04.17.41 # the video's on my sansa e250R w/rockbox is not centered on the screen any idea 04.18.17 Quit ashes ("Lost terminal") 04.18.42 # I am guessing, PimpIntheFlesh, (ironic name BTW) you never scaled them and are only seeing the top left corner of your video? 04.19.27 # it looks like im seeing the top left corner. the video converter i have doesn't seem to be scaling correctly 04.19.27 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.19.35 # any good ideas on a converter 04.21.04 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 04.21.16 # the wiki suggests ffmpeg - winFF if you are on windows. 04.22.16 # i'll try winff 04.23.57 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.25.21 # Check it --> http://pastebin.com/m66ffc9eb 04.25.32 # does that even make any sense? 04.26.41 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 04.28.15 # jhMikeS: you around? 04.29.22 Quit PimpIntheFlesh ("Leaving") 04.31.31 # Davide-NYC: hello 04.31.49 # hey! I'm trying hack a CF card into my H120 04.32.03 # there's some issue with sleep commands in ata.c 04.32.21 # now an F120? :) 04.32.26 # I do not want to kill my H120, but I'd LOVE to have no moving parts in there. 04.32.41 # More like an F12 sine the card is only 2GB 04.32.46 # perhaps just remove the sleep commands for now 04.32.57 # like this? http://pastebin.com/m66ffc9eb 04.33.43 # really what it wants is some pretty defines and a Flash_Drive option during configure... 04.34.41 # sleep commands? oh my bible says to save Gods commands 04.34.43 # lol 04.34.44 Nick asdrubal is now known as azdrubal (n=abc@cpe-76-190-210-165.neo.res.rr.com) 04.35.20 # I guess I need to create a custom bootloader-h120.bin but I don;t know how. Am I on the right track here? 04.35.23 # Davide-NYC: What about the ata poweroff stuff? 04.35.37 # is that in ata.c too? 04.35.44 Nick azdrubal is now known as asdrubal (n=abc@cpe-76-190-210-165.neo.res.rr.com) 04.35.49 Quit Kizle ("..whoosh") 04.36.10 # I'm getting my info from the forum. What we really need is a good wiki page. I'm willing to start it but I have no idea what I'm doing here (yet) 04.36.11 # yes, there's a #define for that 04.36.16 Join maxftball [0] (n=asfsaa@97.88.183.78) 04.38.16 # missing packet start code prefix: )) at FEC..... I get this every time i try to start a video on rockbox with a sansa e260 04.38.22 # can anyone help me? 04.38.45 # maxftball: What SVN revision is your build? 04.38.51 # ))= 00 04.39.09 # old no doubt 04.39.17 # Almost undoubtedly 04.39.39 # definitely undoubtedly :) mpegplayer doesn't even produce that now 04.39.53 # where can i get a new one? 04.40.03 # new version 04.40.12 # latest daily or build one 04.41.05 # I wish to build my own bootloader. Where do I find the necessary information to do so 04.41.07 # ? 04.43.49 # for the h100... not a good idea... easy to brick it 04.44.02 # well crap. 04.44.08 # :-) 04.44.31 # I mkdir h120 inside bootloader. 04.44.44 # I configure a makefile for h120 and bootloader 04.44.47 # I make 04.45.38 # I get a bootloader dir inside h120 which contains bootloader.bin 04.46.03 # I presume I can now follow the instructions from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot ? 04.46.04 # ug now i get "incompatibleversion" 04.46.23 # removing poweroff stuff shouldn't prevent an installed HD from working 04.47.05 # I need to swap the HDs to "upgrade" the firmware so a working mechanical HD wouldbe good. 04.47.12 # what does it play mpeg1 or 2? 04.47.45 # I'm going to try just the pastebin change I linked to earlier as that has been reported to work. 04.49.27 # I got "incompatible version" now 04.50.14 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.50.38 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=el_miep@p54BF43F9.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.51.36 # maxftball: extract the whole new build 04.52.31 # ok 04.52.41 # OK, my resultant bootloader.bin is *bigger* than the one that is available on the wiki even though I removed code. What version of the bootloader is in SVN right now? 04.53.02 # maxftball: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer 04.53.08 # * Davide-NYC terrified 04.53.19 # isn't the wiki one quite a bit older 04.53.39 # it dates from, jul 2006. so I guess so. 04.54.09 # Davide-NYC: The one in SVN may contain a lot of changes that aren't in any currently available bootloader 04.54.27 # Davide-NYC: As you were told by JdGordon, it's not a good idea to compile your own bootloader unless you have hardware to recover your ROM if you brick it 04.54.50 # and there is no guarantee that these recent changes are stable so I shouldn't be doing this.... 04.55.25 # plus I'm not a programmer so who knows if my syntax is correct even if the logic *should* work. 04.55.40 # * Davide-NYC smacks my face 05.03.07 # alright, I am sufficiently freaked out. New tactic: Take the bootloader_h120_7pre4 plunge, and see if that helps. Stay tuned. 05.04.55 # yay it works 05.05.02 # Thanks :) 05.05.25 # * jhMikeS envisions Davide-NYC in the Post Office mailing a package to Sweden :) 05.05.41 Part maxftball 05.09.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.12.12 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 05.22.35 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup") 05.27.17 Join austriancoder__ [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 05.28.27 Part female 05.33.57 Quit |aneka| ("KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 05.37.39 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 05.38.21 # Is it normal for rockbox to take over 10 minutes to update the database? 05.38.31 # I have 2gigs of music 1 gig built in, and 1 gig in a microsd 05.40.13 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-94aa0fef01b0b64d) 05.40.26 # ja, sí, yes 05.42.23 Quit austriancoder_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.43.09 # Anyone? 05.43.25 # could someone help me? My database is stuck updating 05.43.37 # can't get it to work at all... shoudl I delete previous database files? 05.43.41 # how.. etc 05.44.25 # I encountered corruption on the disk earlier... What should I look for to see if my database is stuck updating.... can I fix it by deleting some files? 05.45.33 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.46.18 # The answer is, delete the .rockbox/databace_*.* files on your dap. Redo the update process and try again. 05.46.48 # ok 05.46.54 # I'll try that and report back to you! 05.47.44 Quit perrikwp (Remote closed the connection) 05.48.38 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216aac@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e4f6df7bf18716e1) 05.51.15 # I'll be going in about 10 minutes. 05.51.25 Join Kernel [0] (n=free@unaffiliated/blazed) 05.52.03 # countrymonkey, how long does it usually take to update database ? 05.52.05 # I have 2 gigs of music 05.53.05 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.53.45 # 2 gigs, let me see, about 10 mins on an hdd player. I don't know about a sansa (flash-bassed player). I would expect it to take a shorter time. I don't think it does microsd music anyway so you're probably down to 1 gb. 05.53.47 # hello all. does rockbox still not support add on devices for the ipods?...ie the radio broadcaster that plugs in the same place the charger does(usb port??) 05.54.38 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.54.56 # I have gotten an itrip (remote port) device to work but you must use it's default you cannot talk with it. I have heard reports about dock connecting things (some things) working, but I'm not sure. 05.55.18 # hmm 05.55.23 # but officially the answer is no 05.55.42 # try the IpodAccessaries wikipage. 05.55.57 # if I even spelled that word right 05.56.02 # lol 05.56.06 # ok thanks :-) 05.56.23 # Hey, I am a horrible speller. :P 05.56.39 # lol. i am the WORST speller ;-) 05.56.52 # countrymonkey: You could be responsible, and verify the page exists and/or use google to check the spelling *before* telling someone to go there 05.56.52 # You're better than me. 05.57.34 # Well, I know the page exists (I bought my itrip because of that page!) 05.57.52 # Yes, but the page you typed doesn't exist, because you got the spelling wrong 05.57.55 # or, should I say, working off that page. 05.58.46 # gotta go, it's almost 9 here. Gotta get some sleep. night 06.00.15 # さいおなら 06.00.59 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.01.04 # hmm i dont see the page off the main wiki page 06.01.12 # doh!. missed him by a second@ 06.01.29 Quit Davide-NYC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.03.18 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9og.cable.mindspring.com) 06.04.24 # confused about RAM and ROM and the difference between the two things/ 06.04.49 # That's something you could just check on wikipedia... 06.04.58 # I've loaded rockbox.iriver and rombox.iriver to flash. What's the difference in this instance? 06.05.03 # Aaah 06.05.22 # Rockbox executing from ROM saves you a little bit of RAM for buffering purposes. 06.05.26 # But may be slightly slower 06.06.21 # but it's not really ROM then, since I wrote rockbox to it. 06.06.30 # * Davide-NYC scratching head 06.06.46 # ROM never means that it's physically impossible to write to. 06.06.53 # If that were the case, it wouldn't be programmable in the first place. 06.06.53 # didn;t know that 06.07.08 # ROM usually means write once... 06.07.19 # here its write a hell of a lot less often than read 06.07.20 # ROM usually either means "the first time you write to it, it's permanent" or "you're not *supposed* to write to this" 06.07.59 # Anyways, I'm officially forever saying goodbye to the iriver firmware. 06.08.23 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 06.08.36 # the roms you can write to are eeproms 06.09.08 # unlike ram, it'll keep it's data even if it doesnt have a charge going into it 06.10.05 # so when I choose "Boot RAM image" I'm actually loading the RAM with the ROM image and then executing it? 06.10.25 # yep, thats what I'm under the impression that it does 06.10.47 # but I'm fairly new to rockbox 06.11.02 # Davide-NYC: No. 06.11.07 # arghh 06.11.09 # well there ya go :) 06.11.10 # :-) 06.11.15 # The RAM and ROM images are linked differently 06.11.31 # When you choose "Boot RAM image" you're loading the copy that's designed to be executed in RAM into RAM and executing it. 06.11.35 # That's why you have to flash both images. 06.12.36 # I see, so *both* images are stored in ROM but the RAM image (in ROM) gets loaded to RAM and then executed whereas the ROM image just gets run from where it is (in ROM) 06.12.50 # Yes, basically 06.13.18 # sweet, I will attempt to make (gentle) changes to the wiki to improve clarity. 06.13.30 # cause it wasn't clear to me at all. 06.13.51 # are there any p2 owners in here? cause I wanna start porting :) 06.15.52 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-de1b95c2da700a06) 06.16.22 # someone said they missed me by a second? 06.16.51 # I got involved in an e-mail war with a friend so might as well finish it and hang around here 06.17.18 # Llorean: one last question... is the bootloader.bin file that I compiled the same file as the bootloader.irver file I downloaded from the wiki? If not how do they differ? 06.17.41 # i dont think they are the same... no idea how they differ though 06.18.04 # I think there's a difference of a header. 06.18.06 # But I'm nto sure. 06.18.40 # You shouldn't use a bootloader you compiled yourself ever, unless you know well enough to know exactly why you _must_ do it. 06.19.19 # I heard you the first time. I'm on a mission to brick me some technology. 06.19.26 # (just kidding) 06.19.44 # I hoped 06.21.10 # if you want to brick technology, i've got an old blender you can smash 06.21.28 Quit jurrie_ ("Leaving") 06.21.55 Quit perrikwp (Remote closed the connection) 06.22.38 # I have an already bricked mp3 player you can smash to pieces. An old 64 mb one. 06.23.45 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216aac@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-271cd5086be1dc11) 06.27.34 Join jurrie [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 06.29.25 # Is it reasonable to put in a flyspray request that the required CFModH1x0 changes be figured out and that a CF enabled bootloader build option be rolled into the configure menu? 06.29.48 # Just like the RTCModH1x0 stuff? 06.29.57 # (almost) 06.31.24 # I dunno if it's reasonable to make a feature request. 06.31.39 # It seems that the people writing the code for a hardware mod should be the people interested in actually doing the mod 06.31.45 # But that's personal opinion only 06.36.24 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.42.23 # true, but from an "audio only" perspective the removal of a spinning HD is the last thing on my wishlist for the H1x0. Since Compat Flash is becoming 'cheap' I suspect this will be a popular modification. 06.42.29 Join klaatu [0] (n=sXe@76.89.131.135) 06.42.55 # hopefully an interested and able party reads this and is inspired. 06.45.05 # scorche: ping 06.50.23 Quit asdrubal ("Leaving") 06.50.38 Join azn [0] (n=4c7e7992@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5b74f4dcf22de23e) 06.52.42 Quit DaCapn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.52.42 Quit klaatu ("leaving") 06.56.06 Quit azn ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.56.14 Join azn [0] (n=4c7e7992@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4c0b15b3b3ae321a) 06.56.29 Quit martii (Remote closed the connection) 06.56.49 Join martii [0] (i=martii@obgyn.edu.pl) 07.01.11 Join ryran [0] (n=ryran@adsl-157-119-57.clt.bellsouth.net) 07.01.14 Quit azn ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 07.04.10 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 07.06.48 # kkurbjun: always nice to see gigabeat work :) 07.07.18 # have you made any more progress with flashing? 07.09.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.10.13 # kkurbjun: traitor! mr500 is more important :p 07.12.14 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955D4DF.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.14.37 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 07.15.10 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 07.15.24 # midgey, yes, flash boot is working properly now, I ran into some trouble where the LCD was not coming up, now it works thanks to that commit. I want it to be out there for a while so that other people can report if they are having LCD troubles incase something is messed up with the initialization 07.15.37 # Jdgordon, :), I got distracted 07.16.00 # excellent! 07.16.20 # I havn't tried booting straight up without using even the rockbox bootloader, but I think that should work as well 07.16.35 # wee for flash \o/ 07.17.31 # I can't wait to have my non-debug player running without any toshiba cruft. It would be nice to have a wake up alarm on it. 07.18.13 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-160-247.nyc.res.rr.com) 07.19.28 # has anyone got a h300 and can test a plugin for me real quick? 07.21.25 Join Davide-NYC_ [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9og.cable.mindspring.com) 07.22.12 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 07.22.32 # Davide-NYC: you hae a h300 dont you? 07.23.19 # hmm.... actually i may not need a real target 07.23.27 Quit moos ("Have a nice day/night all") 07.25.01 Quit japc (Remote closed the connection) 07.26.02 # I've got a general svn question. I've always wondered what 'fix red', 'fix yellow', etc are talking about... anyone? 07.26.11 # the h300 has pretty much all the HAVE_* defines doesnt it? (apart from the hwcodec ones obviously)? 07.26.26 # ryran: http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi 07.27.43 # hmmm... I've always wondered about that page too. oh well. ;) 07.28.18 # well, the filesize delta graph I get, but anyway. 07.28.22 # the fix red/yellow talks about the top table, which is a graphical version of the build log 07.28.30 # compile errors/warnings 07.29.41 Quit DaCapn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.30.26 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 07.30.45 # oh wow. duh. 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11.14.48 # petur: not very solid plans, but some day yes. 11.14.48 # oh, I were there last here, on Boomball festival :-) - do you know that festival? :-) 11.15.01 # could I bring this http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15259.msg115044#new to the developers attention, seems thats a good modification that needs some help 11.15.56 # Casainho_: not really 11.15.58 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/aliask) 11.16.47 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet13.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 11.17.56 # it appears that rockbox has difficulty reading some compact flash cards, whereas the apple firmware dosn't, 11.18.23 # petur: http://www.boombal.be/ --> it's about folk dance and music, wich I love :-) ;-) 11.18.29 # HxxxCFmod: so someone with such flash cards should start looking at code 11.18.48 # Bagder: do you know where the DMA mode is set? 11.18.54 # no 11.19.01 # HxxCFmod: my A-Data card has arrived today, I'll try it in my h320 tonight. It is a x266 one 11.19.22 # yep, but the guys aren't sure whether its a bootloader issue or elsewhere 11.19.28 # Casainho_: that probably explains why I don't know it :D 11.20.03 # petur: :-) :-) - okok :-) 11.20.04 # HxxxCFmod: at what point is what problem appearing? 11.20.17 # * petur gets reminded of the incompatibility between svn bootloader and his h380 11.20.37 # Bagder; during boot with rockbox ata -80 error 11.21.01 # I'd guess the bootloader and rockbox will have the same error then 11.21.37 # petur: I am from Portugal, I loved to see a lot of people using bikes!! :-) and I didn't like the polluted water :-( :-( 11.21.46 # you mean code will have to be modified in both ? 11.22.03 # HxxxCFmod: they use the same code... 11.22.14 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-010.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 11.22.18 # for ata etc at least 11.22.22 Quit mokkurkalve ("leaving") 11.22.31 # I've been looking at the issue for most of the last 24 hours 11.22.40 # I can't work out where a -80 return code can come from :( 11.22.40 # show how much I know, thanks for the info 11.23.33 # different spec cards, some work fine others dont, the clue lies in the different specification of the CF cards 11.24.00 # It seems tha no published recovery method can really recover a sansa c200 from "correctly" damaged partition tables and FAT bootsectors 11.24.20 Join Toki [0] (n=hsdbvlkb@gateimb.imb.lebedev.ru) 11.24.56 # gevaerts: "correctly damaged" ? 11.25.02 # I just had to recover using my e200rpatcher-based reinitializer again 11.25.06 # * GodEater writes this interesting description down 11.25.16 # gevaerts: right, your recovery tool is needed for that 11.25.35 # we should make that possible for others to create 11.25.45 Quit HxxxCFmod ("CGI:IRC") 11.25.58 # I find it rather stupid of sandisk though 11.26.00 # * gevaerts notes that when USBCV MSC tests warn about destroying data on your device, it is serious 11.26.23 # no kidding... 11.26.34 # Bagder: basically that means a partitionner and a mkfs 11.27.12 # Bagder: my current tool just restores "known good" blocks, so it won't work on any other size of flash 11.27.38 # ah ok, but perhaps we could at least make a description on how you made it 11.27.47 Join Llorea1 [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-132-142-206.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 11.27.56 Quit Llorea1 (Remote closed the connection) 11.28.05 # of course, you're the first one to hit this problem so it's not likely to be a huge problem 11.29.17 # Bagder: I think the most "common" case would be people repartitioning their devices. The way I did it probably is not very common. 11.29.20 # is "ata -80 error" the _exact_ error message? 11.29.39 # of the CF problem 11.30.43 # Bagder: I see some "rc * 10 - x" lines, so I also don't understand how it could be -80 11.30.48 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 11.30.54 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 11.31.01 # yes, I'm also browsing through there trying to figure it out 11.31.02 # rc < 0 11.31.23 # right, x could be -10 11.31.26 # and x = 10 11.31.30 # * petur late 11.31.33 # DEBUGF("set_features() - CMD failed\n"); 11.31.34 # return -10 - i; 11.31.38 # for example 11.32.24 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.32.31 # Should all devices support PIO? 11.33.53 Quit iamben (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.35.15 # I see it 11.35.27 # set_features() returns -20 11.35.35 # rc = set_features(); 11.35.35 # if (rc) 11.35.36 # return -60 + rc; 11.35.53 # ata.c:1089 11.35.57 # Maybe we should clean up the error codes a bit :) 11.36.06 # yeah, this is a maze 11.36.44 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@barry-workstation.ucd.ie) 11.39.35 Join iamben [0] (n=ben@adsl-75-13-226-86.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) 11.43.26 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cf15e70372266a41) 11.45.33 Part LinusN 11.47.04 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 11.48.01 # * gevaerts is going to do some wiki stuff later today. 11.48.47 # anyone here with a mini2g who check if they get the problem reported in FS#8559? 11.49.12 Quit ap0|Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.53.03 # * amiconn would go hexadecimal for the error returns 11.53.09 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC (Session timeout)") 11.53.24 # Allows more different codes per function, and the multiplication is a shift 12.07.14 # don't we use zero-cross detection when changing volumes on 5g? 12.07.30 # oh, we do, but not for line out, which doesn't matter 12.20.11 # * barrywardell wonders what the purpose of powermgmt.c:655 is, since it's already inside a check for CONFIG_CHARGING. 12.20.58 Quit kaimuki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.22.31 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-98-216-170-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 12.29.20 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnd230.ugent.be) 12.31.08 # * Zagor proposes a code parser that automatically determines which code path produces which error code... 12.33.12 # LinusN, amiconn: is it a good idea to add support for pio modes 5 and 6? 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If that happens, holding the power button for a long time still shuts off the player, but there is no visual feedback 13.13.54 # (speaking of sansa here) 13.16.41 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 13.17.14 # Also, I'd like to put my 'how I recovered my partition table and FAT bootsector' somewhere on the wiki. Any hints on where ? (I'm not sure the SansaE200Unbrick page is the correct one, since it's currently not a "just run this tool" solution, and it can (f done wrong) actually transform an e200-tool recoverable player in a player that requires my tricks) 13.21.00 # * gevaerts is a wiki newbie 13.24.13 # bertrik: (if you read the logs) Be careful about the MSC tests in USBCV. They are serious about possibly damaging data. If possible, make some kind of backup of your partition table first, that should at least make recovery slightly easier. 13.27.02 # gevaerts: do you already have a wiki account? 13.27.11 # * petur thinks not 13.27.36 # petur: not yet 13.31.06 # * gevaerts now is FrankGeverts 13.31.16 # * gevaerts mean FrankGevaerts on the wiki 13.31.28 # * petur goes to give write access 13.31.49 # * gevaerts 's keyboard has it's backspace much too close to the enter key 13.33.45 # * petur welcomes gevaerts to the wiki ;) 13.33.58 # * gevaerts thanks petur 13.34.35 # petur: do you have some hints on where to put this stuff ? 13.34.57 # isn't there some sansa port faq? 13.35.30 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Port 13.36.53 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A7524.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.37.22 # gevaerts: The Sansa powers off after holding the power button for 15+ seconds. This is a hardware feature 13.38.11 # amiconn: I know. What I actually meant is that if it hangs with all lights off, it's hard to distinguish this from 'my sansa doesn't power up any more' 13.39.41 # Yes of course. A bug is a bug and can cause about everything.... 13.40.16 # * gevaerts thinks the sansa info on the wiki would benefit from some reorganisation. Mainly some more cross-links between c200 and e200, or some shared pages, would be useful 13.40.45 # you have write access ;) 13.42.59 # amiconn: Of course. I know that I added the bug that caused it for me myself... I think I'll add a mention to the sansa FAQ about it ("if your player doesn't seem to start up, it might be stuck in an indetrminate state. 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Where is "ize" acceptable ? 14.56.23 # everywhere 14.56.34 # give me an example ? 14.56.34 # http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutspelling/ize?view=uk 14.57.07 # news to me 14.57.12 # I'd never use "ize" 14.57.55 # i don't really care, i can use both with equal ease, but we need a convention for the manual 14.58.07 # and these days i actually just use 'ize' myself, but i tended towards 'ise' before 14.58.08 # we speaking as a Brit, I'd say go with "ise" 14.58.20 # but I'm only one voice :) 14.58.33 # i'll ask some of the other manual people later on 15.03.38 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.03.56 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B0CFBE.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.07.41 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3710cdbd078b8a51) 15.09.50 Part perrikwp 15.13.15 Join tuxman [0] (n=tuxman@unaffiliated/tuxman) 15.16.47 Quit Ice`` ("leaving") 15.17.14 Nick joshin_ is now known as joshin (n=joshin@unaffiliated/joshin) 15.20.16 # * preglow wonders why the nano button descriptions are separate from the other ipods 15.21.58 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955E4AC.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.30.06 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955BDED.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.32.56 Join nicktastique [0] (n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic) 15.33.47 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 15.34.05 # * pondlife checks the manual :) 15.36.55 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 15.45.49 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 15.47.26 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.50.26 Join Webbmaster [0] (n=bjwebb@92.0.56.159) 15.50.35 # hi 15.51.55 # will rockbox run on the SanDisk Sansa e260? 15.52.46 # Yes, it will. 15.52.58 # Before you install, however, is yours a v2? 15.53.19 # Or is it an R model? 15.54.10 # im thikning of buying 15.54.16 # http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Sansa-e260-Video-Player/dp/B000EWN5JM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1202913817&sr=1-4 15.55.01 # Okay, but as a fair warning: You may end up getting an e260 v2, which is incompatible with Rockbox. 15.55.08 # oh 15.55.22 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B1609EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.55.46 # LambdaCalculus37: are sanddisk doing something evil, or is it just cos its different and will need more work? 15.56.21 # It's because SanDisk changed the chipset in recent Sansa e200 and c200 models. Because of that, we need to start a new port. 15.56.30 # Webbmaster: it's totally different internally 15.56.43 # ah 15.57.08 # but v2 should be supported eventually, theres not hardware lock? 15.58.01 # Webbmaster: We're not sure when the v2 port will be completed. It takes people who own the device and are skilled in programming to get the port started. 15.58.11 # okay 15.58.44 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 15.58.46 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 15.58.46 # May I suggest another player if you're looking for a Rockboxable device? 16.00.39 # Webbmaster: Go onto eBay and look for the Toshiba Gigabeat F. They're cheap, plentiful, and are wonderful targets for Rockbox. 16.00.41 # SanDisk are doing something a bit evil, by using the same name for different devices... 16.01.34 # Plus, everyone here seems to love them so. :) 16.01.47 # okay 16.02.04 # so anything in the X or F series should work? 16.03.51 # Both work, but you'll have a much easier time getting an F series. 16.04.09 # We're close to getting the S series into the lineup, but the port still needs more work. 16.04.52 # The S is probably a lot easier to get 16.05.01 # markun: Ahoy there! :) 16.05.09 # hi :) 16.05.20 Part Toki 16.06.08 # http://search.ebay.co.uk/gigabeat-f_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQcatrefZC6QQdfspZ32QQfromZR10QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ32QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQga10244Z10425QQlredZgigabeatQ20fQQsabfmtsZ1QQsacatZQ2d1QQsaobfmtsZinsif :S 16.06.10 # markun: The S series are starting to show up on eBay more often. I may get one soon! 16.06.31 # LambdaCalculus37: You can never have enough Rockbox targets ;) 16.06.41 # How else to get a decent Tower? 16.06.54 # pondlife: Indeed. :) 16.06.59 # Webbmaster: Found one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PERFECT-CONDITION-20GB-TOSHIBA-GIGABEAT-MP3-PLAYER_W0QQitemZ290204970569QQihZ019QQcategoryZ73839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 16.08.02 Part agm3nt 16.08.18 # pondlife: I already own four targets and two potential targets. I'm going to end up making it Lucky Seven. :) 16.08.28 # Was the Gigabeat F ever sold in Australia? 16.09.01 # I'm only on 3, one of which is dead... Could have been 4 if I hadn't sold my JBR in a fit of stupidity. 16.09.16 # Davo_Dinkum: Dunno. I know Aussies got the X series. 16.09.27 # k 16.09.38 # And the X models are compatible. 16.09.44 # :/ 16.09.53 # Gigabeat F doesnt show up on ebay au 16.10.01 # Try Gigabeat X 16.10.04 Join Ramla [0] (n=ramla@c03.keltti.jyu.fi) 16.10.52 # but you just said X doesnt work 16.11.09 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 16.11.25 # X works 16.11.25 # Davo_Dinkum: No, I said the X models do work. 16.11.32 # That's what compatible means. 16.11.35 # oh woops. my bad 16.11.45 # i should read things properly :/ 16.12.43 # Seems so: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabeat#Gigabeat_X 16.13.02 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 16.14.41 # good choice of suppliers: http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=Gigabeat+X 16.14.47 # Webbmaster: Have we convinced you yet? :) 16.14.48 Join SSnake [0] (n=dfsff@host-84-220-54-35.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) 16.15.20 # erm 16.15.28 # i don't really want one iwth a hard disk in 16.15.44 # its annoying, i really like the look of the SanDisk Sansa e260 :S 16.16.14 Join _tuxman_ [0] (n=tuxman@host-84-221-36-188.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) 16.16.19 # ew gigabeat has windows logo on it 16.16.19 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.16.54 # Webbmaster: You can take the hard drive out of a Gigabeat and put a CompactFlash card into it, instead. 16.16.54 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 16.17.09 # There's actually a few projects of the sort on our forums. 16.17.51 # plus the sandisk one is cheaper 16.20.20 Quit desowin () 16.21.21 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 16.23.33 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.23.45 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 16.23.53 # but with sandisk, you have to make sure to get a V1 16.26.37 # i know :S 16.26.53 # i hate to say this, but rockbox isn't a necessity for me 16.26.58 # it would just be damn nice 16.27.17 # Blasphemy! 16.27.22 # * gevaerts has 16.28.06 # * LambdaCalculus37 grabs a torch and pitchfork 16.28.40 # * gevaerts thinks that audio players only exist as a cheap platform for home software projects 16.29.10 # * gevaerts also still has this enter key that atracts fingers 16.29.46 Quit petur ("reboot") 16.29.56 Join linuxstb___ [0] (n=linuxstb@host213-123-154-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 16.30.08 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.30.13 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 16.30.19 Nick linuxstb___ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@host213-123-154-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 16.30.36 Quit tuxman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.31.12 Join keanu [0] (n=none@unaffiliated/keanu) 16.32.05 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 16.32.15 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 16.32.32 Join asdrubal [0] (n=abc@cpe-76-190-210-165.neo.res.rr.com) 16.33.25 Quit hcs ("Leaving.") 16.33.40 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 16.33.51 Quit ch4os_ ("leaving") 16.38.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.43.38 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 16.44.04 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.44.50 Quit _tuxman_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.45.07 # gevaerts: just trying your latest patch on my e280. The iSerial is slightly different than the OF (hex letters are lower case with OF, upper case with Rockbox) 16.45.38 Join cpu98 [0] (n=undefine@59.15.55.52) 16.46.03 # gevaerts: also, do you know what the ANSI: 3 means? as in "scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access Rockbox Internal Storage 0.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 3". With the OF, it's ANSI: 0 16.46.40 # barrywardell: I assume that's the SCSI command revision level 16.47.29 Quit keanu|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.47.38 # and "mode sense" is to do with that too? it's 45 00 00 00 with the OF, 00 00 00 00 with Rockbox 16.47.40 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 16.48.05 # barrywardell: ANSI: 3 means SCSI 2 16.48.49 # barrywardell: I have to actually read through some scsi specs one of these days to get this stuff right 16.49.15 # barrywardell: The mode sense response is still inherited from Zagor's work. 16.49.39 # ok, thanks. I wonder what difference those settings make 16.53.01 # barrywardell: feel free to experiment... 16.53.35 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 16.55.41 # hmmm, is anyone working on getting the sansa e200 v2 to work? 16.56.14 # Webbmaster: Here's the forum thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.0 16.58.27 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-209-105.student.uu.se) 16.59.02 # hmmm, so is that a yes? 16.59.30 # Bagder: ping 17.02.33 Quit linuxstb ("Client Exiting") 17.04.41 Quit Xerion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.04.42 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 17.05.16 # anyone else from Europe who is unable to get to websites in the USA? (or the other way around maybe) 17.09.56 # markun: like what? 17.09.58 # im in UK btw 17.10.55 Join inakieeeg [0] (i=0@86.122.116.44) 17.11.11 # markun: looks like it 17.11.15 # Webbmaster: www.cnn.com for example. I'm in the netherlands. 17.11.30 # nah, that works 17.12.28 # markun: works here too 17.12.44 # markun: I have problems at work, but my home machine seems to be able to reach them 17.13.25 # works fine here 17.16.15 # markun: it works fine now 17.16.43 # Who here uses Dolphin as their file manager in Linux? 17.16.50 # I want to know if someone can help test this patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8595 17.17.00 # gevaerts: yes, works fine again 17.18.05 # markun: we probably share a provider somewhere 17.21.18 Quit DataGhost (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.23.23 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 17.26.12 Join scorche|w [0] (n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 17.27.42 Join ap0 [0] (n=Apo@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 17.28.51 Quit ap0 (Client Quit) 17.32.39 Quit Webbmaster (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.34.20 # LambdaCalculus37: I use dolphin but on KDE3 (so the files aren't quite named the same). and I don't have a target ATM 17.34.23 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.34.35 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 17.34.39 # * GodEater googles dolphin 17.35.22 # Nico_P: I have Dolphin running on KDE 3.5.8, and it does create .dolphinview files. 17.35.47 # here it's .d3lphinview 17.36.16 # * gevaerts would never use a file manager that leaves files everywhere it goes 17.36.41 # Nico_P: I'll add .d3lphinview support in later on tonight when I get home. 17.36.48 # cool :) 17.37.11 # it might be specific to kubuntu's version of dolphin 17.37.39 # LambdaCalculus37: add .Trash-* too ? 17.37.39 # Nico_P: Quite possible. 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(just curious) 17.37.56 # GodEater: That's for Nautilus, correct? 17.38.00 # aye 17.38.09 # GodEater: No, but will do. 17.38.26 # does Konqueror do anything similar? 17.38.43 # I don't use Konqueror, so I can't tell you for sure. 17.38.53 # nor do I generally 17.38.59 # but it's a fairly popular file browser ;) 17.39.14 # * GodEater supposes he ought to check EFM too 17.39.44 # * LambdaCalculus37 wonders why no one ever added Linux trash file support to disktidy before 17.39.48 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 17.40.03 # * gevaerts wonders what a Linux trash file is 17.40.15 Part pondlife 17.40.28 # it's like the recycle bin on windows 17.40.45 # The crap no one wants taking up precious space on their DAPs. 17.41.40 # rm doesn't do anycing like that... 17.42.03 # EFM doesn't create anything ;) 17.42.24 # gevaerts: rm? 17.42.37 # * LambdaCalculus37 nixes EFM from his list 17.42.45 # /bin/rm dumbass ;) 17.43.12 # GodEater: :P 17.43.12 # * markun uses ROX-Filer now and then 17.43.16 # also known as "read mail" 17.43.38 Join bjwebb [0] (n=bjwebb@tuxhacker/Bjwebb) 17.43.38 # * LambdaCalculus37 is not feeling very good, so don't mind if his wires get crossed 17.43.53 # * GodEater goes to the pub 17.54.41 Quit framo ("moo") 17.56.04 Part LinusN 18.10.03 Join shivramk [0] (n=shivram@59.164.101.119) 18.11.47 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup") 18.12.48 Quit gevaerts ("Going home") 18.27.12 # LambdaCalculus37: I use kubuntu gutsy 18.27.53 Part cpu98 18.28.50 # Nico_P: Strange. I use Kubuntu Feisty, so why do I get .dolphinview files, and you get .d3lphinview files? 18.28.57 # Nico_P: thanks for the hint with IDE btw 18.29.05 # kugel: you like it? 18.29.08 # Meh, in any case, I'll add .d3lphinview support later tonight. 18.29.24 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@137-015-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 18.29.44 # * LambdaCalculus37 is off to lunch 18.30.01 # Nico_P: Haven't used kscope much, it seemed to not run well under gnome. However I found anjunta and it allready helped me 18.33.16 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216aac@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c0d38376c326dbec) 18.33.52 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.33.57 Quit bjwebb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.35.39 Quit Tuplanolla ("leaving") 18.36.48 Join Tuplanolla [0] (n=jani@a80-186-126-4.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 18.36.49 # linuxstb: Ive been reading the iaudio7 docs. Where do i start with the code? 18.38.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.39.06 Quit parafin ("So long and thanks for all the fish") 18.39.10 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 18.41.19 Join harkonen [0] (n=harkonen@12.147.22.105) 18.43.15 Join webguest66 [0] (n=d55988b9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e0c89450a5fab270) 18.45.01 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-010.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 18.45.30 # betrik: did you see my warning in the logs ? 18.45.33 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.45.43 Join Arathis2 [0] (n=doerk@p508A504B.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.47.34 # markun: That patch looks just broken. PIO modes above PIO4 do not exist, and the checks are also wrong idetify word 64 is a bit field. Check the ata standard. 18.47.39 # gevaerts: to avoid further corruption of the partition table, it could be an idea to limit ata_write_sector to sectors > x 18.48.21 Join keanu|afk [0] (n=none@unaffiliated/keanu) 18.48.39 # webguest66: maybe, although I noticed last week that Windows doesn't want to mount the filesystem if it can't write to sector 0 18.48.39 # woops. That message lacks one period.... 18.49.37 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 18.49.48 # gevaerts: Just fake the write... although it might get in the way if you actually want to change sector 0 18.50.06 # webguest66: I have to recheck. Anyway you can also make recovering hard by zeroing the FAT bootsector, and not allowing writes there makes formatting impossible 18.50.09 # amiconn: Windows also checks if the write goes right iirc 18.50.14 # amiconn: I did that then. It checks 18.50.25 # Store the faked sector 0 in ram 18.50.31 # ...and return that 18.51.01 # The rockbox ata driver itself prevents writing sector 0 18.51.10 # Anyway, both times I had this problem I was doing something no normal user would ever do 18.51.37 # It will panic if you do so 18.52.16 # I might be remembering wrong. Maybe Windows actually writes to the FAT bootsector, and not to sector 0 18.52.28 Join austriancoder_ [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 18.53.29 # Hmm, which might be sector 0 if the disk is formatted in superfloppy mode 18.53.49 # gevarts: also a logf if read/write tries to read outside of the physical boundary 18.54.22 # webguest66: that's probably a sane thing to do 18.54.31 # It may be that the SD driver doesn't panic on sector 0 writes though 18.55.06 # amiconn: Without a regular partition table? A few of my SD cards are like that. The sansa itself definitely isn't though 18.55.30 # Yeah, the sansa itself can't, as that would prevent it from booting afaiu 18.55.48 # * gevaerts noticed that this morning 18.55.53 # And btw, the SD driver doesn't protect sector 0. 18.56.02 # (ata-c200_e200.c) 18.56.14 # The "real" ata driver does though 18.56.18 Join ap0 [0] (n=Apo@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 18.58.56 # rasher (or anyone with a sansa e200): can you reproduce anything like jrbil reports on flyspray ? 19.00.59 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-223-1.dsl.scarlet.be) 19.02.28 # i broke the headphone jack in my sansa c200 by falling on it ... somhow soldering doesn't fix it so i guess the pcd track came off .. can someone guide me to to schematics or can someone sa where the tip of the jack has to be connectted to ? 19.02.29 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 19.03.48 Quit keanu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.04.02 Join keanu [0] (n=none@unaffiliated/keanu) 19.06.26 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 19.06.39 Nick ap0 is now known as ap0|Away (n=Apo@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 19.07.13 Quit austriancoder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.10.38 # gevaerts: works with ogg and mp3 here...maybe jrbil has filesystem errors... 19.10.41 Quit keanu|afk (Connection timed out) 19.12.08 Join JdGordon|w [0] (i=836b004b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-56276093bed396cc) 19.13.31 # bluebrother: seen the dev ml? 19.13.43 # desowin: that's possible, but I'm a bit doubtful. I would expect filesystem errors to either always trigger, or never, but not only if a specific non-fs related option is enabled. I'll ask him anyway. 19.14.46 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.17.55 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 19.18.01 Part pondlife 19.19.37 Quit GodEater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.20.11 # JdGordon|w: not yet. 19.21.46 # gevaerts: btw, I have a sansa e200 (2 GB) and a 1 GB regular micro-sd card.. Do you want me to try the usb stack? 19.22.01 # bertrik: if you ever get bored, you're welcome to help flesh out the UMS driver so we can actually at some point fully implement all mandatory bits of the specs we claim to support. 19.22.11 # * gevaerts is trying to volunteer some other people... 19.22.15 # ok 19.22.42 # what spec version should we support, do you think? 19.22.50 # webguest66: are you comfortable with the prospect of maybe having to do some unbricking ? 19.23.20 Part SSnake 19.23.43 # gevaerts: sure I'm willing to take that risk :) 19.23.43 # * amiconn deems high speed support rather important as well 19.23.50 # bertrik: I'd say for now go for the smallest spec that actually works 19.23.55 # bluebrother: about your forumpost: i just fixed the bug in rbutil with the wrong download url for h10 (5gb) :-) 19.24.26 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 19.24.41 # * gevaerts would like high speed as well, but doesn't currently have the needed arm assembly needed skills to find out what we do different from the OF 19.25.49 # I think we should first make it work, then make it fast 19.26.01 Quit shivramk (SendQ exceeded) 19.26.37 Join shivramk [0] (n=shivram@59.164.101.119) 19.26.47 # webguest66: in that case, testing is always welcome. Just use it and report whatever goes wrong.. 19.26.54 # SCSI reduced block command version (1) + scsi primary commands 2 looks like the smallest spec 19.27.17 # Domonoky: was there another bug? I though the latest windows binary I built already included that. 19.27.37 # bertrik: I think so too. I'm not too familiar with SCSI specs though. 19.27.44 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 19.27.50 # * amiconn considers solving the highspeed problems part of the "make it work" task 19.28.35 # * gevaerts welcomes amiconn's help in finding out the missing information ;-) 19.28.45 # whois linuxstb linuxstb 19.28.55 # bluebrother: h10 really got Hit, the bug befor was in the Bootloader installation.. :-) but both are now fixed.. 19.29.07 # Anyway I have to be off now. I'll be back later 19.29.32 Quit gevaerts ("will do no usb work for the next few hours") 19.31.58 # Domonoky: btw, have I already told you that you can CONFIG += silent in the project file to make the build output nicer? 19.32.17 # I haven't committed that because of a small bug in a Qt resource file on windows :( 19.32.45 Nick Arathis2 is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A504B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.32.57 # in mkspecs/features/resources.prf 19.33.21 # hmm. bad, this damn bug in qt.. 19.33.58 # well, it's only a tiny path separator that's wrong ... 19.34.30 # hmm, I could add it to the project file anyway and comment it, adding a short explanation. 19.35.12 # also, I planned replacing the md5sum implementation with the one included in Qt -- that is already used by the http class. 19.36.50 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@p54BCDA19.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.37.51 # if the md5sum in Qt works the same as ours, sure.. 19.38.15 # (md5sum is use to verify the patched hxxx bootloaders.. ) 19.38.49 # well, it's an md5sum, so it should. But I wanted to verify that in prior anyway ;-) 19.41.09 # Qt4.3.3 also has such a nice path seperator bug: you have remove the UI_DIR command iin the .pro file, or it will generate broken Makefiles.. 19.41.13 Quit hannesd (No route to host) 19.41.25 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.42.26 # dang. Maybe we should add this to the build instructions on the wiki? 19.43.00 # jup, would be good.. :-) 19.44.20 # damn, my h300 with CF also gives ata -80. OF also doesn't like the CF :( 19.44.46 # * bluebrother builds a new windows binary from svn 19.46.41 # any database experts around? i noticed that one of my songs has an autoscore of -44 in rockbox which isn't possible. i exported the runtine statistics and in the database_changelog.txt the values for that song seem to be correct (i calculated an autoscore of ~92 which seeems reasonable). what could be the reason for that? 19.49.21 Join GodEater [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 19.49.26 Quit ol_schoola (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.51.33 Quit jcollie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.52.01 Part harkonen 19.52.12 Join jcollie [0] (n=jcollie@161.210.6.204) 19.52.30 Join harkonen [0] (n=harkonen@12.147.22.105) 19.52.44 # Domonoky: there seems to be something broken with voicefile creation. I too get only 5kiB files 19.53.05 Quit harkonen () 19.53.38 Join aneka [0] (n=kvirc@66.251.27.159) 19.56.27 Quit PaulJam (".") 19.56.44 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.58.04 Quit ap0|Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.59.15 Join klaatu [0] (n=sXe@12.147.22.105) 19.59.47 Join xnyhps [0] (n=sphynx@2001:470:1f0a:17d:219:e3ff:fed7:c57c) 20.01.31 # and no error ? 20.03.03 # Nico_P: I have question concerning the smooth resize patch 20.03.10 # yes? 20.03.25 # Nico_P: Is this scaling down vertically and horizontally needed? 20.03.35 # i'M NOT SURE 20.03.37 # oops 20.04.07 # Domonoky: no, building itself looks fine. 20.04.09 # Does the patch keep the aspect ratio? 20.04.31 # there is only one thing that's strange: the configuration doesn't show the used voice. I.e. the voice field is empty. 20.04.55 # I don't think scaling without respecting the original ratio is needed, especially since scaling up in those directions doesn't seem to be supported (according to the comments) 20.04.58 # maybe that's the issue? Seems I don't have any voices on my box installed. 20.05.08 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 20.05.17 # at least, I'm not interested in it 20.05.25 # linuxstb: it can 20.05.39 # bluebrother: that probably the problem... 20.06.20 # Nico_P: Do we ever want it not to? 20.06.21 # linuxstb: half of the code is (imo) "wasted" for scaling without respecting the ratio 20.06.25 # bluebrother: there should be english sapi5 voice delivered with Xp.. so with english, there should at least one voice be aviable.. 20.06.36 # linuxstb: I doubt it 20.06.56 Quit japc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.07.06 # kugel: That's what I noticed when I briefly looked at the patch - the code seemed to be optimised for speed, not size (duplicating code to deal with special cases) 20.07.32 # yea, jott tends to optimize for speed only 20.07.59 # better than no optimizing imo 20.08.07 # Domonoky: I'm on w2k ... 20.08.23 # well, if that's the problem then the configuration shouldn't be shown as "ok". 20.08.35 # kugel: It depends. In plugins, size is less important. In the core, it's very important. 20.09.13 # bluebrother: sure, the check for the config should be modified.. :-) 20.09.55 # Going home... good night! 20.09.56 # * bluebrother just added some build hints to RockboxUtility :) 20.10.29 # Ups.. TTSSapi::configOk() always returns true :-) 20.10.46 # linuxstb: Sure. But I know that Nico_P wants it to be in the core, that's why I asked if the code is needed. 20.10.49 # looks like this was intentional ;-) 20.10.49 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host118-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.11.05 Quit DaCapn (Remote closed the connection) 20.11.14 # bluebrother: yes, it was ok, before i added the voice selection.. 20.11.20 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 20.11.33 # let me guess ... you always used the default voice before? 20.12.38 # jup, the sapi_voice uses the default if no voice is specified.. 20.15.06 Quit webguest66 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.15.23 # * bluebrother leaves for now ... bbl. 20.15.26 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 20.17.17 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 20.19.08 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 20.20.21 # there's something buggy with the apply_s_flag or bmp_wide_width patch :/ 20.21.38 # the 176x176 AA is resized well with a wps that wants 65x65 AA, but it's not displayed at all on a wps that wants 100x100, and then again it's fine on cabbie (which wants 120x120) 20.22.17 Quit preglow ("going down") 20.24.47 Join EZ-Surfer [0] (i=EZE@cpe-76-88-164-36.hawaii.res.rr.com) 20.26.14 # seems Llorean has been overtaken in at least one category of the forum stats. He's no longer our most prolific topic starter :) 20.26.51 # although I don't think he'll ever get touched in "number of posts" and "time online" 20.27.40 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 20.28.28 Join webguest64 [0] (n=40ea8269@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d49db2ea5f5a5429) 20.29.26 Quit webguest64 (Client Quit) 20.31.54 Join preglow [0] (i=thomj@rockbox/developer/preglow) 20.36.16 Quit weezerle (Remote closed the connection) 20.37.52 # anyone noticed my problem? 20.38.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.39.22 Quit XavierGr () 20.42.10 Join midgey|w [0] (n=8dd5380b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aa69bf9b6b72de52) 20.42.18 Quit klaatu () 20.44.01 Quit petur ("switching...") 20.44.10 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.44.26 # It seems to be theme dependant. If I change the wps Cl tag, in the theme where the problem exists, from 100x100 to 120x120 or 65x65 it still doesn't work 20.47.25 # Duh 20.47.41 # it's too big for the buffer on that theme! But not on the other theme 20.49.22 # Nico_P: Do you know why my cover.bmp is too big for the buffer in the one wps, but not in the other? 20.50.03 # because that WPS has more pics? 20.50.52 # both have about 35 20.50.56 # the non resized bmp is stored in the wps image buffer, so the size you set in the WPS source doesn't matter 20.51.29 # size (both in bytes or pixels, same thing) of the pics matters too, not juste the numbers 20.51.47 # ok, that makes sense 20.52.23 # all the bitmaps are loaded to the wps image buffer, which has a fixed size. what's left is then used to load the original AA bitmap 20.52.52 # Is the non-resized bmp supposed to be in the buffer? I thought the newer versions of bmp resize load the resized bmp into the buffer 20.53.40 # you're confusing the audio buffer (where the resized bmp goes and stays) and the wps image buffer (where the non resized bmp goes for a short time). 20.53.49 Join klaatu [0] (n=sXe@12.147.22.105) 20.54.21 # Ah ok 20.54.42 # Also, the issue appears only with apply_s_flag and bmp_wide_width patch applied. Manual setting the s flag doesn't make problems 20.55.44 # how big is the image buffer? 20.55.49 Join klaatu_ [0] (n=sXe@12.147.22.105) 20.56.52 Quit klaatu_ (Client Quit) 20.56.54 # the wps bitmaps of cabbie (which is working) have 24KiB less big 20.57.01 # s/big/size 20.58.32 # #define IMG_BUFSIZE ((LCD_HEIGHT*LCD_WIDTH*LCD_DEPTH/8) + (2*LCD_HEIGHT*LCD_WIDTH/8)) 20.59.05 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 21.01.09 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 21.03.37 Join klaatu_ [0] (n=sXe@12.147.22.105) 21.04.13 Quit shivramk ("Leaving") 21.05.21 # Nico_P: bits? 21.06.01 # Nico_P: I think I know what's causing the problem 21.07.07 # slightly ot question (sorry) .. am i correct in assuming that i can use a microsdhc card on the sansa with rockbox but of course i can't directly write on it because for usb the original firmware is booted? 21.07.39 # or was there any progress with the usb stack recently that i'm not aware of? ;) 21.09.05 # yes rockbox but not the OF supports SDHC, and I have no idea what you are and are not aware of 21.09.11 # you'll have to write to the card using a reader for now and there has been some usb progress that is disabled by default 21.09.24 # :/ Appearently, those two patches are not causing the problem :/ 21.09.44 # kugel: that's in bytes (actually chars, but they are one byte) 21.09.51 # bambi/midgey thanks.. just wanted to ask if that's still the case 21.10.25 # kugel: it's not a problem. it's just that your bitmap is too big for the buffer whith some WPS, unless you make the buffer bigger 21.10.50 # midgey do you know if there's a page somewhere (wiki) on usb progress? maybe i'm too dumb to find it :( 21.11.00 # conando: Check the IRC logs 21.11.07 # and there is a task on flyspray 21.11.23 # Nico_P: The problem (let me call it problem please ;) ) wasn't there before the newer bmp resize versions 21.11.37 Join Domonoky_ [0] (n=Domonoky@92.226.211.197) 21.11.48 # bambi: will do.. thanks 21.11.48 # probably because previous versions didn't store the tmp bitmap in the same place 21.12.02 # and sorry for the stupid rtfm questions ;) 21.12.09 # Not at all 21.12.31 Quit klaatu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.12.43 # The IRC logs over the last few days have all the discussion on the USB progress 21.13.35 # Anyway, shouldn't the size of the bmp occure in the error message? 21.13.35 Quit iamben (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.13.39 # ah... i was looking at a few weeks ago 21.14.18 # conando; search for gevaerts 21.14.18 # there's an other size written 21.14.26 # He has been making the progress 21.14.38 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.17.49 # "read_bmp_fd: Bitmap too large for buffer: 57800 bytes.", the file is actually 112900bytes (according to my file broser 21.18.06 # broser = browser) 21.18.48 Join iamben [0] (n=ben@adsl-75-34-80-241.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) 21.28.12 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216aac@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-052a4a490c2d62d0) 21.28.41 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.30.05 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust498.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.33.13 Quit bertrik ("bye") 21.37.27 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.40.45 # Nico_P: Indeed, bmp resize reduces the img buffer (i.e. by putting a bmp into it). Loading the 170x170 art without bmp resize works fine, except for the resizing 21.41.09 # kugel: I'm not surprised 21.41.31 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.41.38 # about the error message you pasted, I guess 57800 bytes is the buffer size read_bmp_fd was given 21.41.40 # Yea 21.42.16 # Nico_P: the bmp is in 32bit, that's why it's bigger on my pc 21.43.21 Quit asdrubal (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.43.59 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 21.44.15 # I converted it to 16bit, but it's still to big (doesn't surpise) 21.44.30 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 3.0b4pre/2008021104]") 21.45.26 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 21.47.11 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@79.20.214.118) 21.50.48 # gevaerts: playing music seems to be fine for me 21.50.58 # He's not here.. 21.53.16 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@adsl-70-131-119-93.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 21.54.07 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.54.57 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.54.58 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.55.16 Join ol_schoola_ [0] (n=meatwad@adsl-70-131-119-93.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 21.59.17 # my ipod 5g takes a long time to shut down now about 8 times as long any idea why? 22.02.29 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 22.07.13 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.08.14 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 22.08.46 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.08.59 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 22.09.03 Quit midgey|w ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.10.05 Quit ol_schoola (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.11.28 Quit ol_schoola_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.12.28 Join framo [0] (n=framo@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 22.13.48 # Nico_P: See, I was kinda right when I said the patch doesn't look good to me :D 22.14.17 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@adsl-70-131-119-93.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 22.15.16 Quit klaatu_ () 22.19.49 Join manaox2 [0] (i=noooo@Brag-13-37.rh.ncsu.edu) 22.20.40 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 22.21.07 # I have the february 10th version of rockbox. After the last shutdown, my iPod does not turn on in any way, shape or form. hold switch is off. USB connector has no effect. iPod was fully charged. Advice? 22.21.25 # 5.5g 80gb iPod 22.22.01 # This sounds stupid, but try charging 22.22.13 # It might not have shutdown properly, and then drained the battery 22.22.20 # Or the battery indicator might have been lying 22.22.37 # Or hold menu+select (I think) for a while 22.23.14 # I watched it shut down. Its been off for about an hour. I'll try... wow. it just made a noise 22.23.17 # its coming on 22.23.21 # very weird 22.23.42 # thanks... and... it still says it has a full battery 22.23.42 # kugel - because the old versions of bmp_resize resized while loading the bmp, rather than loading the whole bmp and then resizing? 22.24.32 # stripwax: define old version 22.24.53 # manaox2 - it's a "known problem" and it might be a problem with the original firmware (or it might be a problem with rockbox not shutting down correctly, perhaps) 22.25.04 # the version titled as "This is Metadata on Buffer(MoB) version." works 22.25.41 # how to recieve MoB version? 22.26.00 Quit soap () 22.26.02 # manaox2: I talk about another issue 22.26.15 # kugel - ok, sorry 22.26.41 # I'm not up-to-date on the progress of smooth resize patches, will take a look 22.26.48 # ah thanks have a good day 22.26.51 Quit manaox2 () 22.27.11 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965607.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.28.27 # kugel - you were referring to #5697? 22.28.39 # Yes 22.29.29 # So you were 22.29.31 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 22.30.25 # yes, but wanted to check! 22.31.42 Quit ol_schoola (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.31.45 Quit nicktastique ("Leaving") 22.32.11 Quit GodEater (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.32.36 Quit desowin () 22.34.22 Join perrikwp_ [0] (i=98216aac@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ddf24bbe16aa1b30) 22.34.35 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.35.00 Quit DaCapn (Remote closed the connection) 22.35.18 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-010.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 22.36.21 # gevaerts: playing music seems to be fine for me 22.36.40 # Using plain SVN and USE_ROCKBOX_USB 22.36.43 # rasher: here too. Let's see what he says about fs corruption 22.37.05 # I've been thinking about several usb-related things 22.37.32 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.37.32 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 22.37.49 # I might try to see if we can get serial and mass storage working at the same time. That would allow for realtime logf output 22.38.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.39.22 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 22.39.42 # And on the high-speed issue : we know that the controller tries to send a 512 byte packet, we know that it marks the transfer as complete after a while, and doesn't report any error, and we know that incoming packets get three garbage bytes every 32 bytes, but the controller marks this as OK. 22.40.31 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180065193.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.40.39 # I think that means we understand the controller itself pretty well, but there is an issue with the transceiver. The transceiver is explicitelly not part of the controller in the imx31 spec. 22.42.28 Nick perrikwp_ is now known as perrikwp (i=98216aac@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ddf24bbe16aa1b30) 22.42.33 # That means that the transceiver might conceivably need separate initialization, which we currently know nothing about. Therefore, I think we should concentrate our search in OF disassemblies for accesses to parts of the adres space