--- Log for 14.03.108 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 12 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.16 # gah 00.00.28 # The action contexts are a mess :\ 00.00.58 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-174-104-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 00.04.43 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 00.04.55 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 00.05.03 # nm 00.06.56 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.07.43 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 00.10.06 # Can I use mencoder to convert avi for nano? 00.11.09 # as long as you convert it to a supported format, you can use whatever you like 00.11.23 # what should i convert it to ? mpeg1? 00.11.48 # Tuxguy: check out the wiki page PluginMpegplayer 00.12.03 # URL? 00.12.07 # i can try it in lynx 00.12.38 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.13.17 # Tuxguy: you can find the link to the wiki on every page of rockbox.org 00.15.25 Quit gevaerts ("time to sleep") 00.18.27 Quit Tuxguy ("Leaving") 00.21.13 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 00.21.15 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.21.44 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98215ac7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f2f29e64db2774e) 00.22.44 Quit krazykit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.23.53 Join simonrvn_ [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 00.24.32 Join krazykit [0] (n=josh@adsl-99-155-238-230.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 00.27.14 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@124-169-26-254.dyn.iinet.net.au) 00.27.52 Quit xa0ce (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.29.56 Quit shotofadds ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.30.09 Quit jac0b ("Ex-Chat") 00.32.47 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.32.55 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98215ac7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-01c8e76c3c5cdd61) 00.34.26 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-98-216-170-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.38.56 Quit simonrvn (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.38.56 Nick simonrvn_ is now known as simonrvn (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 00.39.29 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 00.41.36 Part toffe82 00.43.42 Join Doomed_ [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 00.43.42 Quit alienbiker99 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.43.42 Quit suom1 (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.43.42 NSplit card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.43.44 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 00.51.36 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 00.58.17 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-35-72-30.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 01.02.26 Quit Seedy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.03.52 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.03.56 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.05.51 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.08.44 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.08.47 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 01.11.00 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@65.75.87.48) 01.16.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.18.28 NHeal (timeout) card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.20.54 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.23.37 Quit donutman25 ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 01.23.39 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@124-169-74-51.dyn.iinet.net.au) 01.24.10 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 01.24.17 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.24.48 # jhMikeS: around? 01.29.00 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 01.34.31 Join blackk [0] (n=bblack@38-118-35-20.rapiddsl.net) 01.35.52 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9vm.cable.mindspring.com) 01.38.18 Join syn4pse [0] (n=syn4pse@cpe-075-176-155-093.sc.res.rr.com) 01.38.59 Quit gtkspert_ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 01.39.38 # JdGordon: ping 01.42.58 # pong 01.43.07 # just gimme a min to get dressed :p 01.45.10 # Davide-NYC: sup? 01.45.28 # I wanted to chat for a sec about the new WRS. 01.45.48 # Archos Rec and iRIver LCD remotes have to be a bit different 01.46.06 Join mib_q3a6me4n [0] (i=53159054@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-97508bed58971d78) 01.47.09 # why?> 01.47.33 # Because you cannot fit three lines above the peakmeters on the Archos screen 01.47.52 # check out my little tiny screenshot in the forum. 01.48.06 # isnt that what is being shown in wn though? 01.48.07 Quit mib_q3a6me4n (Client Quit) 01.48.13 # s/wn/svn 01.48.29 # JdGordon: btw. did you notice that your mac failed in the sim builds (and was disabled later)? 01.48.45 # btw, i agree with whoever said that the labels are pointelss 01.49.04 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15911.0;attach=2768 01.49.27 # pixelma: yes.. 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10.14.43 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-23-189.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.26.23 Join joeycooper93 [0] (n=423a97a1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-89d78fd7e358500d) 10.26.47 # is anyone here? 10.27.12 # 112 people and a bot are... 10.27.33 # ok, hey is anyone working on a zune custom firmware? 10.28.32 # I don't believe any has cracked the firmware encryption yet (or if anyone is still working on it). 10.29.26 # i hope they can, the zune program sux, no clock, and useless wifi 10.30.35 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 10.30.53 Join xa0ce [0] (n=a0i@lawn-128-61-117-50.lawn.gatech.edu) 10.31.55 # anyone here own a zune? 10.32.09 # cracking FW encryptions is a big problem here 10.32.20 # I'm stuck with iriver E10 10.33.11 # ok, good. stay with it if u like rockbox or custom firmware, no one has cracked zune 10.35.20 Quit joeycooper93 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.49.34 # Anyone opposed to committing FS#8538? 10.51.55 # There are some similar inconsistencies in the debug menu. 10.52.16 # scev0la: can you look for a way to reencrypt a firmware? There is some checksum which is now skipped by ifp_decode which we would need to generate. 10.52.27 # gevaerts: the debug menu is, well, a debug menu 10.52.42 # scev0la: Maybe you can ask someone who wrote of an image modifier for one of those irivers. 10.52.47 # we cant be bothered about fixing language in that 10.53.34 # LinusN: I agree, but I wasn't sure what the consensus is on this 10.54.06 # there is never consensus in this project :-) 10.54.22 # at least we all agree on that :) 10.54.45 # * gevaerts hasn't seen much demands for changing the project name recently :-) 10.54.52 # but fixing language issues in the debug menu is filed under "rubbish" in my cabinet 10.55.13 # new RE stuff on the Meizu front every day: http://www.meizume.com/firmware/5567-rockbox-project-m6-12.html 10.55.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.56.38 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnb188.ugent.be) 10.57.45 # rasher: i think you can commit 10.59.24 # markun: it looks like we can probably expect "real" code within the next few weeks 10.59.41 # I hope so 10.59.58 # I'll try to make a Meizu skeleton for rockbox this weekend 11.00.19 # I have some questions about the button layout: 11.01.30 # we have '5 point joystick' (slider + prev and next) and MENU, ENTER, POWER/PLAY/PAUSE and HOLD 11.01.55 # what should we do with ENTER and POWER/PLAY/PAUSE? 11.02.15 # ENTER is on the front, POWER/PLAY/PAUSE on the top of the player 11.02.40 # maybe ENTER can be mapped the same as A on the Gigabeat and POWER as POWER 11.02.55 # ENTER sounds like one of those hard-to-map buttons that end up as a backlight control :-) 11.03.10 # what will be out stop button? 11.03.21 # long-play i guess 11.03.31 # and shutdown? 11.03.44 # I'd map POWER/PLAY/PAUSE to PLAY; and use long Play as stop like on several other targets 11.03.44 # since PLAY and POWER are the same 11.03.51 # Even longer Play 11.03.51 # ouch 11.04.03 # Same thing as on iPod and M3 at least 11.04.07 # Not a real problem 11.04.19 # amiconn: at the same time it might be nice to have the play button on the front of the player 11.04.26 # Why? 11.04.53 # aren't you Mr I-want-my-buttons-on-the-front? 11.05.08 # Yes, but that's a hardware issue, not a mapping problem 11.05.42 # markun: Have you tried to encourage the meizu people to come over to rockbox.org? I'm getting a feeling of deja-vu (the Gigabeat F port)... 11.06.10 # markun: I see you have... ;) 11.06.11 # linuxstb: I tried, but kgb2008 (who is the most active guy) doesn't intend to do so 11.06.34 # otoh, we always say: "the port has to come from the community" 11.07.07 # and right now I don't really mind 11.07.53 # linuxstb: I'll keep gathering the info in the rockbox wiki 11.08.38 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 11.10.05 # amiconn. LinusN: you can partially forget what I said about the buttons. I based my info on some forum thread about the button layout but the PLAY/PAUSE button is actually on the front: http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/meizu-m6se.jpg 11.10.28 # so I guess the POWER button is on the top and can be the STOP button as well 11.10.37 # : Hi! 11.10.44 # hi scev0la :) 11.11.19 # been busy for some time.. 11.11.21 # even stranges, both buttons seem to have the play/pause symbols! http://www.allpmp.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/allpmp5.jpg 11.12.54 # markun: right now I can't even find a compiled (.exe) version of ifp_decode 11.13.03 # only source code 11.13.06 # markun: OK, just don't give up ;) Unless kgb2008 wants to fork Rockbox, he'll have to come here eventually... 11.13.29 # linuxstb: he stated that he has very little time online, so I also understand that 11.13.51 # and maybe he's just like the Gigabeat hackers: vanishing when the fun part is over 11.17.44 # Bagder: You could add M3 bootloader, main & sim to the table if you want :) . All compile, with a single warning though, and the target build is no much use yet. 11.18.33 # markun: can you help me finding it& 11.18.53 # markun: ifp_decode.EXE I mean 11.23.47 # scev0la: can't you compile it yourself ? 11.27.01 # LinusN: pm_ping 11.27.06 # Yeah, I'm lazy, I know :) 11.29.44 Join DefineByte [0] (n=defineby@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 11.29.54 # LinusN: Could you test svn bootloaders on H1x0 and H300? The remote should work now 11.30.16 # i'll see if i can do that tonight 11.30.53 # Problem was that the remote LCD init relied on some other thread to call lcd_on(), which never happened since that other thread doesn't exist at all in bootloaders 11.31.21 # The detection tick just sends an event that the lcd should be initialised 11.32.11 # Now the call to lcd_remote_init() tries to initialise the lcd directly if the remote is present 11.32.54 # ..and the tick isn't compiled anymore for bootloaders 11.33.19 # Same problem existed on the iaudios. Fixed, and tested, as testing iaudio bootloaders isn't dangerous :) 11.35.00 # i see 11.36.56 Part pixelma 11.39.52 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-98-216-170-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 11.44.44 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@barry-workstation.ucd.ie) 11.48.11 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnb188.ugent.be) 11.48.42 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.51.42 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnb188.ugent.be) 12.00.52 # LinusN: Btw, did you read that I found what the 'logo' area in the iaudio flash files is for? 12.01.05 # nope 12.02.03 # It's the "Firmware upgrade" logo that's displayed when the bootloader finds & flashes a new firmware file 12.02.21 # It's for the remote, and seems to be used on M3 only 12.02.30 # i see 12.02.55 # Right now 'scramble' just puts zeroes there, leading to an empty screen with just a progressbar when flashing on M3 12.03.36 # On X5, the "Firmware upgrade" logo seems to be part of the flash loader, so just putting zeroes doesn't change anything 12.03.59 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 12.04.00 # * amiconn wants to put a rockbox there for M3, but needs to figure out the necessary bitmap format 12.04.10 # s/rockbox/rockbox logo/ 12.07.57 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@barry-workstation.ucd.ie) 12.21.55 Nick Kohlrabi_ is now known as Kohlrabi (n=Kohlrabi@frustrum.nosebud.de) 12.35.19 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.51.45 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 12.55.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.57.09 Join preglow [0] (i=thomj@tvilling2.pvv.ntnu.no) 12.57.30 # seems the backdrop actually draws over file names for h120 cabbie 12.59.16 # i don't really know how nice i think a backdrop is on a grayscale target anyway 12.59.18 # just found service manuals for iriver E10! 13.01.10 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 13.01.42 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 13.04.50 # and for all other irivers 13.04.59 # http://www.genius.ru/servicecenter/ir/Servicemanuals/ 13.07.53 # E10 seems to have DFU mode, 13.08.17 # but to enter it you have to short some pads on board 13.08.59 # people and their rar files... 13.10.09 # Bagder: what's wrong with RAR files? 13.10.20 # they're plain silly and evil and best avoided 13.10.37 # 7zip ftw! 13.10.37 # 7zip compresses better and is an open format 13.10.46 # wow I'm scared! 13.11.10 # z-zip can open the perfectly... 13.11.20 # *them 13.11.22 # It's even worse. These rar files seem to contain doc files! 13.11.29 # Bagder: seen this ? http://www.emacsblog.org/2008/03/13/yet-another-snippet-package/ 13.11.42 # and will delete all those files from me HD immediately! 13.12.08 # it's common for corean firms 13.12.51 # haven't you seen .XLS files with, say, 2 strings of text and LAAAARGE foto embedded& 13.13.21 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 13.13.32 # GodEater: no I hadn't... 13.13.35 # gevaerts: ->openoffice 13.14.58 # Bagder: not sure if you're in anyway interested, but it was emacs related, and I thought looked kind of cool :) 13.15.10 # it does look cool... 13.15.52 # I've not tried it yet, but I'm about to 13.16.45 # I might need that handy when I'm going to battle the "we use Eclipse" people in my new project... :-) 13.17.00 Quit SirFunk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.17.31 # Bagder: should blow 'em away :) 13.17.32 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 13.17.50 # "but where's that button to press so that it runs make for me" ... 13.17.58 # B-] 13.18.58 # I've only seen short glimpses of Eclipse users in action, but I don't need anymore either... it's not my style of working 13.19.24 # and they have these sorts of "snippet" support built-in that tool 13.20.57 # Does eclipse have decent search-and-replace these days ? 13.21.12 # I didn't get that far so I can't tell ;-) 13.21.19 # * gevaerts still prefers vim 13.21.25 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 13.21.48 # vim was far from born when I hacked my first code in emacs... 13.22.04 # "If still NG, replace U9(MCF5249,CPU)" yeah, right ... 13.22.24 # hahaha 13.22.39 # LinusN: that for the h100 ? 13.22.47 # yes 13.23.06 # repair equipment recommendations.doc: "Oscillposcope" :-) 13.23.37 # still some valuable info there 13.23.39 # "if you fail to replace U9, we consider you a lame solderer and you shall go stand in corner" 13.23.40 # hmm 13.23.43 # doesn't want to work for me 13.23.44 # hahaha 13.23.47 # the tab key is doing nothing 13.24.37 # The iriver cpu is BGA, right? 13.25.37 # yup 13.26.50 # LinusN: yeah, THAT doc file is hilarious! 13.27.08 # :-) 13.27.26 Quit DefineByte ("Bye all") 13.28.55 # Bagder: regarding SoC the ffmpeg aac-lc decoder is almost ready for main svn inclusion, so I would recommend that as a project 13.29.14 # cool 13.29.57 # Is it fixed point? 13.30.33 # G2/Cook only miss a fixed point transform, and you can use the wma mdct for it so it should be viable also 13.31.04 # amiconn: no, should be easy to port though 13.32.32 # everything up until the actual transform might be ported though 13.32.40 Join joey1 [0] (n=cbdc7d3b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-533f628d50bd9f52) 13.32.45 # the ffmpeg ac3 decoder is like that now 13.32.58 # just the transform is performed in float 13.36.48 Quit joey1 (Client Quit) 13.38.32 # some more interesting files 13.38.32 # http://www.genius.ru/servicecenter/ir/FirmWare/S7/ 13.38.55 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 13.39.31 Quit DaCapn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.41.31 # woo! circuit diagrams!!!! 13.42.16 # ! 13.43.06 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy14.netz.sbs.de) 13.44.54 # I don't know what russian "Genius" has to do with iriver, but.. 13.45.48 # player_dev.bin - is it samsung's internal NOR contents? 13.46.08 Quit LosNir () 13.46.18 Join suom1 [0] (i=suom1@irssi.mobi) 13.49.30 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 13.50.24 Quit jgarvey (Client Quit) 13.56.48 # Woow! A H10 circuit diagram, i.e. portalplayer! 13.57.57 # coolness indeed 13.58.33 # * gevaerts wonders how those files got there 13.58.48 # interesting boot options 14.01.45 # * amiconn is now convinved that the USB problem is some PP init, not a voltage regulator setup problem 14.07.02 # * gevaerts 's thoughts are also going in that direction 14.09.52 # Some of the observations seem to point to timing issues (or incomplete packets) as opposed to signal level issues (like the hub problems. Normally bad-quality devices work better behind a hub, not worse) 14.11.02 Quit jhMikeS () 14.11.31 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d17ba118970af3f7) 14.12.22 # gevaerts: could it be that the cpu clock needs to be an even multiple of the usb clock? 14.13.25 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98215ac7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fccefd54b4962bda) 14.13.41 Nick joshin_ is now known as joshin (n=joshin@unaffiliated/joshin) 14.13.58 # * preglow looks for the circuit diagram 14.14.49 # LinusN: that's one possiblility. According to the ARC spec in the iMX31 manual, the transceiver comminicates at either 30MHz or 60MHz (i.e. a 16bit or 8bit data bus to reach the 480Mbit USB bus). Which one is used can be read from a register (I think PORTSC1, but I don't have time to look for it now) 14.17.53 # amiconn: look in the H10 service manual. 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Before getting into repair work, you.d better prepare soft clothe to prevent further kissing. 14.28.07 # Haha! 14.28.15 # sounds like quite a workplace 14.29.23 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FC24B73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.29.24 # Don't know if that can be a Golden Quote or not, but it's funny nonetheless. :) 14.29.33 # nice find! :-) 14.30.46 # could someone find files like these for ipods, please? 14.42.18 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A5098.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.55.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.57.08 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 14.57.21 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.00.26 # here's another "mirror" 15.00.28 # http://fvd.ru/?go=drivers&folder=iRiver 15.00.54 Quit xa0ce (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.01.33 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.180.200) 15.01.36 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 15.08.38 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 15.10.29 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 15.10.35 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 15.11.02 Quit CaptainSquid ("Miranda IM!") 15.13.37 Part LinusN 15.19.35 Join BobShield [0] (i=rshield@c-67-175-252-44.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.22.23 # bye all, have some info for a weekend hacking sessions :) 15.23.31 Quit scev0la ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.23.51 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnd006.ugent.be) 15.24.00 Join clarkii [0] (n=cc3e08fd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-29a30f1f16c088e2) 15.24.50 Quit Seed (Remote closed the connection) 15.25.03 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 15.26.12 # Stupid question ... I just loaded r16665 on an H10 and it work fine except when I change themes. It then goes into a weird ASCII mode and I have to redo the .rockbox folder to fix it. Did I miss something? 15.26.41 # clarkii: H10 5/6GB or 20GB? 15.26.48 # 20GB 15.27.10 # Which WPS are you trying to switch to? 15.28.17 # It doesn't seem to matter. I'm using "Browse Themes" and am only using the default ones. It goes ASCII no matter which one I pick. 15.28.21 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 15.30.27 # Another note, once it goes ASCII, changing themse just changes the color and font size. I haven't found a way to get it out of ASCII without blowing away .rockbox. 15.37.45 # * GodEater has a strong suspicion that the OP in this thread is a journalist working on PC World and PC Plus : http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15929.0 15.39.05 # and in fact he's just confirmed it 15.42.45 # Cool! 15.43.40 # clarkii: Try hooking your H10 up to your PC, and deleting the config.cfg file inside the .rockbox folder. 15.43.45 # That'll reset your settings. 15.43.49 # the "are you going to write a Rockbox article" question is a bit flippant, but if he does, I suspect we finally stand some chance of getting a reasonably accurate one in the press. He seems keen on actually engaging with us. 15.45.02 # clarkii: sliding hold on while starting the player will do the same job with your h10 15.46.43 # Bagder / LinusN around ? 15.47.19 # or Zagor ? 15.47.38 # I'm here 15.48.06 # could you take the 1st Gen iPod MBR linked in the thread I metioned above and put it on the download server ? 15.48.15 # he did it twice, so make sure you take the second one 15.48.29 # then I can add it to the wiki page 15.49.30 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15929.0;attach=2773 <-- direct link to attachment 15.49.40 # ah, thanks 15.50.11 Join merbz1 [0] (n=benlar@dns.basset.se) 15.50.33 # I'm not sure on the naming convention a "4.5ish GB" hard drive is a bit vague 15.51.02 # mbr-1g-4.5gb.bin should do though I suppose 15.51.35 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 15.51.37 # the first was only available in 5 and 10 GB, so I guess it's a 5 15.51.42 # sounds good 15.51.43 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 15.51.54 # let's go with that then 15.53.16 # done 15.53.27 # The company who build the zif to ata interface in germany is a little crazy, 55 euros to ship 5 interface to the US !!!!! 15.55.07 # That's a bit expensive... =/ 15.55.43 Quit clarkii ("CGI:IRC") 15.56.32 # It will be the same orice for the 5 connector shipped to Europ ;) 15.56.45 # ^price :) 15.58.39 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 16.01.02 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 16.01.41 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 16.01.52 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 16.05.25 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.05.38 Quit merbzt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.07.19 Part Weiss 16.12.06 Quit PaulJam (".") 16.12.58 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A5098.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.28.02 Join jac0b|w [0] (n=jac0b|w@155.109.5.244) 16.28.16 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 16.28.27 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 16.29.25 # I think I found a bug for the mpegplayer 16.30.49 # i set my font using the "font:" tag in the theme.cfg file but if you into the mpegplayer and change the volume it freezes 16.31.10 # is it just my build? 16.32.11 # what a complicated bug 16.32.24 # first, what mp3 player ? 16.32.28 # second, what build ? 16.32.39 # third, does it occur with all movies ? 16.32.58 # gigabeat f series 16.33.12 # I only have one video 16.34.10 # custom build, that is why I am asking if it happens to anyone else 16.34.59 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 16.35.07 # jac0b|w: Have you had this happen with an official build? 16.35.59 Quit wisp_sh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.36.00 # We can't figure out what it can be from a custom build. 16.36.21 Join xa0ce [0] (n=a0i@lawn-128-61-20-108.lawn.gatech.edu) 16.36.46 # I could try it on a official build, brb 16.37.14 # I got to finish my diggnation 16.37.39 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 16.39.21 # zagor: I'm not seeing that file on the download server 16.39.29 # ah damn he left 16.39.44 # * GodEater hopes it's just a mirroring issue 16.44.35 Quit midgey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.51.07 Quit desowin () 16.53.55 # okay I tried it with the official its something with my build causing the bug 16.53.59 Quit jac0b|w ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 16.55.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.55.43 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 16.57.10 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 17.01.13 Quit xa0ce (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.13.12 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 17.13.41 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-23-189.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.17.39 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 17.33.34 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9vm.cable.mindspring.com) 17.35.44 # Davide-NYC: Good day to you! 17.36.12 # Likewise! 17.36.37 Quit gevaerts ("work->home") 17.38.10 # Davide-NYC: I managed to fix my friend's iriver H120. 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You an distinguish between v1 and v2 by going to the "Settings" menu and choosing System Info. If the version is 01.*, it's v1. If it says 03.* it's a v2 18.31.01 Quit [blue] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.31.51 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 18.32.06 # gevaerts: hmm will check 18.32.57 # * gevaerts wonders why sandisk skipped 02.* 18.34.16 # lol, grr it's still charging .... with the "connected" screen 18.34.33 # * bluebrother thinks about rejecting FS#8731 -- thoughts? 18.35.48 # I think the only way to handle that type of request cleanly is to make all keys configurable. A special case like this sounds dangerous 18.35.55 Join mchua [0] (n=mchua@63.250.241.10) 18.37.13 # ... and customizable buttons are not wanted (would be hell to support) 18.37.39 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 18.40.35 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet04.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 18.43.10 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 18.43.41 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Remote closed the connection) 18.44.17 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 18.44.28 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 18.45.54 # aren't there, like, remotes for that? 18.46.05 # remotes that one can mount on the wheel for instance 18.48.47 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@p54BCE825.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.49.38 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 18.51.12 Quit blackk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.51.19 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 18.51.37 Join syn4pse [0] (n=syn4pse@cpe-075-176-155-093.sc.res.rr.com) 18.51.50 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 18.55.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.58.54 Quit mchua (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.01.28 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 19.02.12 Quit XavierGr () 19.04.13 # YEHAAAA it's a V1 sansa i've bought :) 19.05.02 # waldo: I expect some people will want to know where you bought it :) 19.06.06 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 19.06.59 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.08.58 # well, belgium, antwerp media markt 19.09.41 # i asked whether it was a new batch and it was ... so i thought i'de be screwed for sure ... 19.10.13 # so ... "en groupe" to "media markt" :) 19.10.43 # * gevaerts would try media markt hasselt tomorrow if he didn't already have enough players 19.12.10 # well, that's quite a good reason not to buy another :) 19.12.30 # you could buy a spare one for if you fall on it , like i did :) 19.13.37 # I currently have four players running rockbox, so I have some margin :) 19.14.23 # indeed, that should do 19.14.55 # where the hell do i get sansapatcher ? 19.15.32 # i can remember from the previous time that i had to run it with sudo on an unmounted sansa ... but can't locate the proggy 19.15.33 # waldo: on the download server. The manual has the exact link 19.15.40 # or try Rockbox Utility ;-) 19.15.43 Quit ch4os_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.16.15 # and bootloader installation requires raw disc access (usually root permissions) 19.23.47 Join desowin__ [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 19.23.49 Quit desowin__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.24.19 Quit desowin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.26.51 # http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/sansapatcher/linux64amd64/sansapatcher ==> gives me a 404 :S 19.28.46 # doesn't look like there are 64bit binaries around of the latest version 19.29.23 # * linuxstb wonders why FS#8538 didn't include a discussion of which convention to follow - not capitalising words is far more common in British English 19.29.45 Quit ryran ("Leaving") 19.30.50 # * bluebrother doesn't like this capitalization hype 19.30.53 # i've still got the version i used with my old sansa ... (dec 2007) ... what has changed ? 19.31.23 # I don't think there was a new release since that 19.31.27 # waldo: I think the bootloader didn't change since then 19.31.34 # k tnx 19.33.47 # * gevaerts notices that at least one native British English speaker commented on that patch, and didn't complain about this 19.35.11 # bluebrother & Gevaerts; tnx a boatload !! i've got a rockboxed sansa again, just LOVE it :) 19.35.32 # Have fun with it ! 19.35.56 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 19.36.46 # gevaerts: Yes, just one native speaker commented... 19.38.17 # linuxstb: I do agree that this should be discussed. Too much capitalisation can be annoying 19.42.16 Join woodensoul [0] (n=woodenso@pool-71-188-142-72.aubnin.fios.verizon.net) 19.44.08 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 19.45.27 # i'm not seeing how to request a closed bug be re-opened, any help? 19.48.44 # I assume you are you logged in? 19.49.30 # yes 19.49.44 # Is there a button underneath the white box (with a red border) near the top of the task? The box with the "closed" message in it? 19.50.24 # someone has already made a request to re-open it, is that why i'm not seeing the button? 19.50.31 # Probably. 19.50.34 # Which task 19.50.35 # ? 19.50.41 # 8513 19.50.56 # the bug occured last night on yesterday's build 19.51.06 # but the request was made 3.08 19.51.14 # (by someone else) 19.51.51 # OK, I'll re-open - you can add your experience... 19.52.01 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 19.52.43 # ok 19.54.31 # thanks 19.57.51 # Bagder: the genlang download of rbutil fails :( 19.58.27 # /quit 19.58.30 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 20.00.35 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.00.46 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 20.03.24 Join J-23 [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 20.03.40 # Hello! How can I test MpegPlayer on Sansa c240? 20.03.57 # by playing a movie ... 20.04.17 # we have a movie available for download, check the PluginMpegplayer wiki page 20.04.20 # I have played 96k video/96k audio movie. 20.04.54 # I will try with better bitrate. 20.05.58 # * gevaerts is trying to understand the usb audio spec 20.06.42 # gevaerts: UMS bugfree and running? ;-) 20.07.46 # * J-23 encodes video/audio file to 96k video/128k audio 132x80 MPG 20.09.10 # bluebrother: as far as I now UMS is mostly bugfree. The remaining problems are PP initialisation (and since that involves reading OFs I think I would probably be the last one to find anything), and the sansa sd bug (idem). I also figure we need something to test USB host whenever I get to that 20.09.48 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 20.09.49 # cool. 20.10.13 # * bluebrother is amazed by the usb work 20.10.46 # 96k video+128k audio works. 20.11.21 # * gevaerts wants to be able to use both host and device USB audio simultaneously. The gigabeat would then be able to send its sound to itself over usb 20.12.47 # using the Ipod as sound card would really be a cool feature 20.14.04 # I'm not sure how much it would actually be used, but it would be cool 20.14.29 # if the sound quality is better than the internal sound card of my laptop ... ;-) 20.15.03 # 128k video+128k audio works, but video quality is... 20.15.44 # I guess you can already test that. Just play the same track on both 20.17.29 # hmm, source file was 64k/64k 20.18.50 # and output file was 0k :/ 20.19.19 Quit woodensoul () 20.22.17 # I've written 96 instead of 96k in console 20.22.41 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20.23.15 Join k3ttc4r [0] (n=k3ttc4r@c-71-61-162-10.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) 20.25.08 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 20.26.45 Join mchua [0] (n=mchua@63.250.241.10) 20.34.09 # so - how does this work with those wiki-write permissions? 20.35.24 # k3ttc4r: What is your wiki name 20.36.27 # ChristianBrassat 20.36.32 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 20.37.25 # k3ttc4r: Done. No spamming now :) 20.38.29 # * gevaerts decides to look how an actual usb audio device works. This spec is too complicated for a friday night 20.38.49 # You didn't make him swear on anything like soap made me? 20.38.56 # Nah 20.38.57 # sweet, thanks 20.43.50 Quit mchua (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.48.47 Join hree [0] (n=4fd3c47d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7fa415fbbfb6f8ee) 20.49.51 # The recently committed screenshot ss-reversi-160x128x1.png doesn't seem to be a reversi screenshot. Rather a pong one. 20.50.04 # Where is the image police??? 20.53.53 # You've just arrived... ;) 20.55.00 # * linuxstb reads the list of USB device classes and wonders how silly it would be to make Rockbox a printer (storing the images to be viewed later)... 20.55.23 # LOL 20.55.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.55.55 # but the m:robe 500 might be useable as webcam? 20.56.11 # There's also a Monitor device class... 20.56.30 # that sounds interesting. Make a new Ipod monitor ;) 20.56.56 # someone might want to setup a second monitor and move the mp3 player application to the Ipod screen ;) 20.57.30 # Actually we could expose brightness/contrast settings using that. The question is of course if any OS supports it 20.57.41 # Sadly it just seems to be monitor control, not the display data... 20.57.58 # hmm, too bad. 20.59.17 # I think the (semi-)useful ones are UMS, Audio, CDC (serial), HID (keypad, maybe screen) and PTP/MTP 20.59.39 # Is the MTP/PTP spec public yet? I can't see it on the site... 21.01.17 # PTP is the Still Image Capture Device class. 21.02.22 # (at least wikipedia says so). There's also ISO 15740 21.02.26 # Is that useful? (apart from the mrobe 500) ? 21.03.16 # I put it last on my list for a reason ;) 21.03.41 # Well, MTP is useful. (I guess...) 21.04.18 # Probably more useful than any HID classes. 21.04.41 # (if we're only talking Rockbox as a device) 21.05.21 # Host has a different set of useful classes I think. 21.07.45 # * gevaerts wants host with a libgphoto2-based digicam control plugin 21.07.58 Join DefineByte [0] (n=defineby@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 21.09.49 # should we just close that apev2 for mp3 patch entry for good? 21.11.12 Join silvio_ [0] (n=silvio@adsl-84-226-34-147.adslplus.ch) 21.12.44 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 21.15.04 # preglow: what's wrong with APEv2, again ? 21.16.37 # preglow: I don't really care any more - I wouldn't object (in principle - I don't know if that patch is OK) 21.17.17 Quit argumentD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.17.19 # It looks like USB audio should be possible with only one pair of endpoints. That would mean it can coexist with UMS or HID if we want it to. 21.18.00 # linuxstb: I just remembered : HID is useful to expose the volume controls to the OS while doing USB audio 21.18.29 # Nico_P: well, the problem is that they're stored at the end of the file, so seeking has to be done to check if they're there 21.18.37 # gevaerts: Why should the host OS care about the volume controls? 21.18.51 # Nico_P: ordinary id3v2 data is stored at the start. i guess we could just search for apev2 if id3v2 is not found, but i don't really like it 21.19.08 # besides, i feel that id3v2 is what belongs on mp3 21.19.51 # ah right, yes 21.19.59 # apev2 is a much nicer tagging format, if you ask me 21.20.03 # But given the lack of any official tagging format for MP3, who's to say id3v2 is better than APEv2, apart from the fact that it got there first? 21.20.10 # but i don't want to burden rockbox with having to cope with everything being tacked onto anything 21.20.22 # linuxstb: it's more common by far 21.20.39 # linuxstb: and got there first, yes 21.20.55 # linuxstb: depends on whether you want to handle the volume control on the host or device side. And you might want to use the rest of the keypad to control your host-based media player 21.21.30 # preglow: Are there any technical advantages to APEv2? e.g. are character encodings handled better? 21.21.31 # * gevaerts will now stop speculating about the usefulness of features and get on with reading this spec 21.22.20 # linuxstb: apev2 is utf8, as a general rule, afaik 21.23.18 # preglow: But I agree it's probably about time to make a final decision on it... 21.23.48 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-70-242-6-101.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 21.24.17 # linuxstb: yeah, i guess that's my point 21.25.02 # * linuxstb doesn't really care either way (he hardly has any MP3s), but would vote in favour if there was a vote 21.25.02 # i don't really mind apev2 support, but i would very much prefer id3v2 to be the default, and no extra settings involved 21.25.40 # So use id3v2 if both id3v2 and apev2 exist? 21.25.43 # so i guess a question that pops up is: if id3v1 AND apev2 are found, which are preferred? 21.25.48 # i'd put id3v1 last any day 21.26.01 # linuxstb: well, yeah, since we don't have to seek to the end of the file at all if id3v2 is found 21.26.24 # But wouldn't a user be more likely to want the apev2 tags, if he/she has gone to the trouble of creating them? 21.26.25 # Yeah, I wouldn't mind a check for ApeV2 if we're already at the end of the file. 21.26.49 # * linuxstb isn't convinced that seeking is a hard task - it's not a tape... 21.27.12 # well, seeking latency is specified for all disks, and it does matter 21.27.42 Join RemmyX25 [0] (n=RemmyX25@cpe-72-224-73-38.nycap.res.rr.com) 21.27.55 # * linuxstb switches computers 21.27.58 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 21.27.59 # hey everyone 21.28.50 # I'd bet most people with ApeV2 tags just have them on accident, much like the people with ID3 on FLAC. At least, I've heard more people running into problems with ID3/FLAC than APEv2/MP3 while doing support. 21.29.03 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.29.53 # id3/flac is more prone to error, being tacked on to the start of the file 21.30.00 # alright, i have a question which probably has been answered but I'm too blind to find it.... 21.30.12 Quit PaulJam (".") 21.30.25 # preglow: Ah, true, wouldn't Ape tags mostly just break gapless? 21.30.52 # Llorean: don't see why they would break gapless, an mp3 decoder would just lose sync at the end of the file, see eof, then start at the next file 21.30.58 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180067110.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.31.10 # where can i find the "instuments" for MidiPlay? 21.31.16 # so unless sync loss causes the decoder to purge its state, it should be fine 21.31.24 # preglow: Ah, okay. I don't know much about MP3 decoding. 21.31.39 # RemmyX25: I think they're linked on the SoundCodecs wiki page. 21.32.11 # RemmyX25: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMidiPlay 21.33.20 # Bagder: ping 21.33.44 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-613ca786ca289bb3) 21.34.11 Quit silvio_ ("Verlassend") 21.34.40 # do i need to extract the file? (not sure what .tbz2 format is) 21.34.49 Quit perrikwp (Client Quit) 21.35.26 # it's a tar file that has been compressed using bzip2 21.35.33 # on windows, 7zip can extract it 21.35.48 # alright. i've got 7zip done with it already 21.35.51 # thanks! 21.36.05 # aaaannnnddd theres more 21.36.42 # thanks for everyones help 21.36.45 # ^_^ 21.36.50 Quit RemmyX25 ("Leaving") 21.37.33 Quit nplus ("Leaving") 21.38.36 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=4b596e67@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dc8ff1a52515fc47) 21.38.49 # preglow: Regarding the apev2 patch, maybe we should post a comment saying it will be closed unless anyone can convince us it's a good idea - just to give people the chance to say why they need it. 21.39.08 # When will the mrobe:100 builds be added to the builds pages? 21.39.46 # I think as soon as there's a manual with install instructions. 21.40.10 # So everything else in finished for it? 21.41.32 # I doubt it's finished... 21.41.51 # Just good enough to be usable to non-developers. 21.42.36 # Thanks 21.42.40 Quit crzyboyster (Client Quit) 21.42.51 # the mrobe manual only lacks 9 images and already has 134 pages ;-) 21.43.35 Join xa0ce [0] (n=a0i@su60.eastnet.gatech.edu) 21.43.42 # 134 new pages? x) 21.44.40 Quit desowin () 21.44.48 # They get rebuilt every day, so yes they are new ;) 21.44.59 # heh 21.45.48 # just think of the amount of pages that get created freshly every day ... much greater than 1000 pages in total ;-) 21.46.01 # Think of the trees ! 21.47.27 # fortunately we don't print them 21.48.28 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 21.48.45 # someone might be. who knows? 21.48.59 # * bluebrother don't want to know :P 21.49.37 Join argumentD [0] (n=argument@humanities-958e77f8.host.ucla.edu) 21.51.43 # any chance of my patch being committed before the mrobe stuff (if it ever will be, not like I've had any feedback ^^)? x) 21.52.02 # what patch? 21.52.37 # fs#8175 21.52.40 # It should be possible to implement a USB audio interface that doesn't actually do anything. That would be a nice replacement to the current "charging only" interface. 21.52.47 # 8715// 21.53.55 # linuxstb: i guess so 21.54.25 # DefineByte: looks like it contains several newline changes (which makes it a bit longer to review it ...) 21.54.39 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 21.54.45 # oh okay. :) 21.55.54 # preglow: OK, I'll post something. I think it's fair to give people using the patch a chance to argue for its inclusion. 21.56.23 # are there any custom builds that use it? 21.56.58 # just thinking some might be relying on it without realising. 21.57.15 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 21.57.26 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 21.58.19 Quit hree ("CGI:IRC") 22.01.00 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 22.02.45 # Zagor: the genlang website stuff is gone :( 22.02.59 Part k3ttc4r 22.03.20 # but rbutil relies on it for voice file creation 22.03.36 # can you fix that? 22.03.54 # oops. do you know the path where it was? 22.04.05 # http://www.rockbox.org/genlang/ 22.04.14 # thanks, fixing 22.04.19 Join scev0la [0] (n=c17d5d9b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-75ed2524d41bb0b3) 22.07.14 # soap: Regarding your forum post about the 5.5g being sluggish - I thought we had scrollwheel acceleration now, so are you saying it's still too slow? 22.07.44 # too slow? No. Less "responsive" and "precise" than other targets? Yes. 22.08.36 # I don't want to scare the guy off of Rockbox on the iPod - but I do believe many people would think it is not "snappy". 22.10.38 # I thought the comparison was with the Apple firmware, not other targets? 22.11.19 # i.e. is more work needed on the scrollwheel? 22.12.05 Quit argumentD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.13.45 Join framo [0] (n=framo@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk) 22.14.10 # I thought it had been declared a slow screen driver issue. 22.14.22 # bluebrother: fixed 22.15.02 # The issues I have are completely related to choppy scrolling in long lists. 22.15.27 # What if you manually boost the CPU? 22.15.47 # give me 15. My Video is in my truck which is out in the rain. 22.18.15 Quit desowin (Remote closed the connection) 22.22.31 # Zagor: thanks. 22.25.58 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 22.26.04 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=el_miep@p54BF78B5.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.26.36 # What's the policy on declaring a struct that is defined in an external document (USB audio spec), but will only be used inside one .c file ? Should I put it in the .c file or in the usb_audio include file ? 22.26.40 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0791f3cf04613623) 22.27.15 Quit DefineByte ("Bye all") 22.29.28 Join saratoga3 [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f522d069f139a8ca) 22.30.01 # gevaerts: IMO, .h files should contain the public interface for the .c file - so in that case it should be in the .c file 22.30.26 # * linuxstb isn't sure if there's a policy on that... 22.30.58 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e46532a1c7220e3f) 22.31.08 # gevaerts: if it's only used in the c file, it should be declared there 22.31.26 Join saratoga4 [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e1e7b5a9479c8c36) 22.31.33 # Thanks 22.31.41 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.32.53 # Zagor: genlang is already in the source dir so it should be a link on the web site 22.33.09 # aha 22.33.23 Join satatoga11 [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-998411bf591cb947) 22.34.39 # * gevaerts hopes to have a fully spec-compliant but non-functional usb audio implementation tonight 22.34.52 Quit saratoga3 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.35.07 # did anyone find a use for it? :) 22.36.12 # Some people seem to want it, and the "non-functional" one should be useful to replace the charging only interface (there are drivers for it, and people are less likely to be confused by an audio device than anything else) 22.36.26 Quit saratoga4 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.36.35 # It's also fun to do of course 22.37.37 Quit J-23 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.38.30 # hm, how come AC3 is not mentioned in the CodecPerformanceComparison page? 22.39.33 # Argh! Why did they define a data structure in there with non-aligned 16 bit numbers in it ? 22.40.20 # Bagder: Do we have AC3 test files? 22.40.44 # gevaerts: lovely 22.40.56 # http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/AC3/ ... perhaps? 22.41.04 # Llorean: That page doesn't have test files - just one test file and a script to encode in many formats 22.41.38 # So I guess the issue is lack of an encoder in that test suite... 22.42.34 # * gevaerts looks for the name and address of the writer... Hmm, Leuven, that's reachable... 22.43.39 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 22.44.39 Quit rockho (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.44.47 # linuxstb: Ah, right. I knew that the selection was based on what we can create test files for, but I forgot we included encoders rather than files. 22.48.23 Quit scev0la ("CGI:IRC") 22.52.54 # linuxstb, fresh install, defaults (including theme) that's 15 lines per screen (if my eyesight is right) and in the file browser browsing ~500 directories. 22.53.55 # Without CPU boost, scrollwheel responsiveness lags input by at least 200ms. I'm slowly scrolling down, change direction, and the selection bar goes "down" at least one more item before changing direction. 22.55.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.55.44 # i saw some suggestion that the ffmpeg aac decoder should be made into a GSOC project 22.55.56 # what is the argument in favor of that verses just cleaning up FAAD? 22.55.57 # hmm, I thought I could scroll in "Debug Menu"-->"CPU Frequency" to increase the boost count. Now I'm going to ask a stupid question - how do I manually increase boost? 22.56.10 # i think its up and down 22.56.29 # at least on the sansa you can't do it with the scroll wheel 22.56.35 # I thought it was too. It (boost count) is staying at zero) 22.56.56 # "Menu" as up and "Play" as down does not appear to work either. 22.57.29 # satatoga11: I agree, I don't think the ffmpeg AAC decoder is obviously a better choice. 22.57.33 # Something I pressed raised it, hmm. 22.57.51 # that said I do like the ffmpeg decoder 22.57.56 # its actually readable 22.58.22 Quit TMM (Remote closed the connection) 22.58.36 # I think the faad decoder could be made to be readable though... (removing all dead code would be a good start) 22.59.31 # ahh, scrolling backwards increases it. Scrolling forward increases it. Continuous scroll does not continue to increase/decrease, only separate scroll events get registered. 23.00.45 # Anyone else ever get "make[1]: *** No rule to make target `UI-.bmp', needed by `/home/dave/rockbox/rockbox-viewports/build-gigasim/UI256.bmp'. Stop." ? 23.00.53 # and linuxstb (after that embarrassing tangent) the lag feel is gone when boosted from 30 to 80 using the default theme (15 lines per screen) 23.01.12 # * linuxstb realises why... 23.01.32 # soap: Hmm, so there's an argument for boosting whilst the UI is active... 23.01.59 # I, personally, don't mind the lag - I use a larger font and rarely interact with the UI. 23.02.40 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 23.03.08 # I also don't find the lag, even when present in this situation, crippling (or even hindering) in any way. I do think, though, that it has a noticeable feel in comparison to most other DAP UIs. 23.04.21 # I strongly support adding GUI boosting of some kind 23.04.26 # just not enough to make it happen 23.05.05 # also, it might help battery life for FLAC users if it enabled us to reduce the idle clock speed further, as per buschel's patch 23.05.24 # Not to mention the fact that even on my 60GB player it takes at least a second to enter the menu from WPS if there is still buffering going on. 23.05.34 # * gevaerts looks for the name and address of the writer... Hmm, Leuven, that's reachable... 23.05.44 # and, IIRC, the 80GB has slower disk access. 23.05.46 # * gevaerts can't be trusted with a keyboard... 23.07.11 # linuxstb: Could the list scrolling code boost, rather than basing the boosts on button presses? 23.08.06 # soap: I've noticed that on my Nano recently actually, a severe delay while buffering is happening. Also affects skipping, it almost seems like buffering isn't interruptible. 23.09.13 # Llorean: theres some time invovled in boosting and unboosting, so it probably makes sense to remain boosted for a couple seconds at a time 23.09.31 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4E8CA.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.09.42 # I should also mention that not only is this 15 lines per screen tiny font and all, but also most my directory names are two screens wide. 23.09.48 # so you'd probably want to boost as soon as the UI comes on, and then unboost a little while after you're sure theres not going to be more button presses for a bit 23.10.15 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 23.10.17 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 23.10.35 # compared to having the back light on, boosting uses relatively little power on PP anyway 23.10.42 Join djazzy75 [0] (n=527cd25e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7f1093ce792fe1dd) 23.10.44 Quit djazzy75 (Client Quit) 23.11.19 # Why do the daily and current build pages simply say "Toshiba Gigabeat F" and not mention the X? 23.11.54 # Is there still a X user ? 23.14.31 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 23.18.46 # soap: The problem with the slowish drawing especially on ipod video is the "optimisation" in the 16 bit lcd driver that was introduced by one of the gigabeat guys (don't remember which of the 2) 23.18.55 # This optimisation is actually a slowdown 23.19.16 # I didn't realize it had gotten slower. 23.19.30 # I will fix that if I ever get around writing a gfx performance test plugin 23.19.47 # soap: That optimisation happened quite some time ago 23.19.48 # and I thought you ruled the LCD drivers with an iron fist. (no offense intended) 23.19.52 # Maybe a year or so 23.20.56 # is the MpegPlayer plugin CPU or LCD bottlenecked on the 5th gen? 23.21.17 # cpu 23.21.44 # It's just too huge a display resolution for the poor little cpu 23.22.02 # With smaller displays, mpegplayer performs very well on pp502x 23.22.49 # yea, I knew the CPU:resolution ration was bad, but I was also under the impression the LCD driver was slow. 23.22.57 # ratio even. 23.23.12 # It used to be slow, but is not anymore 23.24.09 # Iirc it's the second-fastest lcd driver, transfer rate wise 23.24.22 # Only the e200 lcd driver is faster 23.25.04 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 23.26.24 # gevaerts: The cpu clock/usb transfer speed ratio is an interesting aspect 23.26.47 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-71-235-127-194.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 23.27.00 # If that's actually the root cause, 30MHz can't be correct, as that's the normal, unboosted clock in rockbox 23.27.12 # So, did you try 60MHz? 23.28.07 # amiconn: it is. Unfortunately I got dizzy when I tried to find out how to set the clock speed. I think I tried 60MHz, but I might have made a mistake. 23.28.30 # * amiconn thinks the pp clock setup is rather straightforward 23.28.58 # * gevaerts looks for an excuse... He might have been tired at the time 23.29.03 # That is, setting the actual value, not the workarounds for the various quirks 23.29.47 Nick z35_1 is now known as z35 (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 23.30.09 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.31.05 # For PP5020, set 0x8a020a04, for PP5022/5024, set 0x8a120a02 23.31.57 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 23.32.02 # Could also use 0x8a020502 and 0x8a120501, respectively 23.33.24 # * amiconn compiles for mini g2 23.34.00 Quit bblack ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.34.11 # * gevaerts goes to get some players 23.34.28 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.180.200) 23.35.33 # I'll do a quick test by just setting CPUFREQ_MAX to 60MHz. Will go back to working on M3 afterwards 23.36.26 # whats the policy on assigning the copyright header to files? 23.36.35 # is it whoever writes the file or whoever writes most of the code in the file 23.37.03 # satatoga11: whoever started the file 23.37.24 # well, major contributors can very well add theirs too 23.37.35 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 23.37.46 # Zagor: I'd add the exception that if a file starts as a close copy of another, the copyright line of the original file should be copied 23.38.02 # * amiconn did that for some of the M3 files 23.38.05 # what about i2c-dm320.c? at present theres no code in the file 23.38.13 # amiconn: indeed. I don't count copies as original work. 23.38.15 # marcus claims copyright in one of his patches that adds code 23.39.31 # replacing the copyright line is a big no-no. adding another line would be more acceptable. 23.39.54 # but if there was nothing before and code is added, I'd take that as a valid copyright claim 23.40.40 # true. I just looked at the file and it really is empty. how come it even exists? 23.41.05 # probably to make something else compile 23.41.30 # heres a patch to fill it out: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8686?getfile=16164 23.42.09 # or rather http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8686?getfile=16167 23.43.05 # in this case I'd say it is ok 23.44.38 # amiconn: on sansa it doesn't work. Reading the partition table fails (which is the same behaviour as at 30MHz) 23.46.49 # Doesn't work on mini either, even at the root port 23.47.30 # Windows fills the event log with lots of the infamous disk event 51 23.48.13 # Same on ipod 5G. I tried both values on both sansa and ipod 23.49.48 Join bblack [0] (n=bblack@dynamic-acs-72-23-59-5.zoominternet.net) 23.49.52 # Maybe it doesn't like too many interrupts while it's doing a transfer ? Would 60MHZ and all non-usb interrupts disabled be worth trying ? 23.50.44 # if the 1bit color default is black, how would you draw white? say a rectangle? invertrect and clearrect both aren't members of that api 23.51.53 # Or in DRMODE_INVERSEVID 23.52.27 Join Buschel [0] (n=abc@p54A3F950.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.52.32 # invertrect and clearrect existed in pre-drawmode ages 23.53.08 # is there any way to just clear pixels? 23.53.40 # my plugin is pretty much working except for a tiny snag... i can draw the important bits 23.53.45 # in one bit color white is just the opposite of black 23.53.47 # saratoga: regarding the former discussion about ipod gui responsiveness. have tried fs#8668? 23.53.57 # isn't it ipod only? 23.54.04 # not anymore :D 23.54.14 # i've been busy 23.54.33 # * Buschel buschel remembers saratoga owns a sansa :/ 23.54.41 # oops 23.54.49 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 23.54.53 # yeah i've been looking at doing something similar for the sansa 23.55.11 # half heartedly though due to time constraints and my desire to fix various issues with the wma decoder 23.55.17 # hmm, let me check 23.57.36 # syn4pse: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GraphicsAPI 23.57.52 # thx