--- Log for 05.04.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 18 hours ago 00.01.57 Join cbr|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.05.21 Join dexen [0] (n=52915c8b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-895ac4156f3b5539) 00.05.23 # hello 00.05.47 # pixelma: scrolling on the H300 version of boxes looks really nice :) 00.05.58 # pixelma, seren: you can also use: convert -append volume*.bmp volume.bmp 00.07.25 Quit Zom ("leaving") 00.07.38 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-43-44.A166.cust.bahnhof.se) 00.07.39 # Nico_P: I would have been interested if the old version even failed to load (it did here with the H300 sim with the frame bitmap, IIRC. But I'm not a 100% sure if it wasn't due to another change) 00.08.00 # "image buffer full" 00.08.25 Quit Zom (Client Quit) 00.08.25 # oh I didn't test and now I've removed my H300 sim 00.08.36 # but you made that WPS much cleaner apparently 00.08.37 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-43-44.A166.cust.bahnhof.se) 00.08.37 # not so important 00.08.48 # Say, are there any builds of RockBox for Sansa e280 v2? anything thad build and boots would do... 00.08.58 # dexen: no 00.09.22 # Nico_P: but I remember exactly that the Ipod Video one's failed when I added the coloured rating (with the mono ones it still was ok)... 00.09.36 # gevaerts: is it being worked on at all? 00.09.48 # gevarets: any devel branch in SVN or sumthin'? 00.09.55 Quit qwedsa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.10.51 # Nico_P: and forgot to say: thanks :) now only 3 more to go (the hardest will be Rockboxed...) 00.10.52 # pixelma: btw, I was wondering why there are those magenta placeholders on the backdrops for (Un)iCatcher 00.11.12 # dexen: I don't really follow this, but I think there is no working code at all yet. I'm not sure if people are actually working on that 00.11.27 # IMHO they should go (I do know you didn't put them there though) 00.11.40 # I just felt like mentioning it :) 00.11.54 # I don't know, I guessed it is from some old version and they don't hurt so I kept them. At least it lets you see if your positioning is off... 00.11.55 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.12.24 # true 00.13.01 # dexen, you can look in the new ports in the forums to find out too 00.13.04 # gevaerts: thanks for the info~ 00.13.16 # the forum seems to be down >> 00.13.32 # Yes, unfortunately they are 00.13.54 # dexen: You can check the thread at some point in the future :) 00.14.35 # that's a quite unfortunate development, when cash is buring my pocket ;_ 00.14.38 # ;) 00.15.05 # dexen, do you have a v2 right now? 00.15.48 # not yet 00.15.53 Quit roolku () 00.16.14 # but it seems i can't get more than 4GB otherwise than by buying a v2 00.16.32 # or, perhaps, wait & watch out for some second-hand v1 to surface 00.16.43 # i'm living in a mid-sized country, you know >_>;; 00.16.45 Quit davina ("GNU/Linux the free alternative to Windows") 00.17.10 # shoot.. you are in poland.. never mind then 00.17.13 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 00.18.18 Quit CyBergRind|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.18.31 # um, well 00.19.35 # Bah, what's the deal with ! being special in bash? 00.20.16 # Using it unescaped isn't possible, and escaping it includes the escape char... 00.20.24 # it lets you recall a previous command, but isn't it fine between quotes? 00.20.37 # amiconn: try using the `rc' shell 00.20.45 # rc ? 00.20.51 # it's much nicer than Bash 00.20.55 # I'm on cygwin... 00.20.56 # and it considers ! a normal character 00.21.02 # * gevaerts never heard of it 00.21.12 # `rc', from the Plan 9 OS 00.21.38 # http://swtch.com/plan9port/ POSIX port of it 00.22.07 # http://swtch.com/plan9port/man/man1/rc.html the shell's man page 00.23.12 Quit Rincewind ("bye") 00.23.16 # i'm using the shell daily for various scripts >_>;; 00.23.37 # Looks nice. Anyway, this is really off-topic here :) 00.24.38 # * dexen nods 00.29.48 Join thundr2 [0] (n=Sam@75-121-150-104.dyn.centurytel.net) 00.30.00 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435403e9.dyn.optonline.net) 00.31.54 Quit Jon-Kha (Remote closed the connection) 00.33.06 Quit domonok1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.35.29 Join Brian_S [0] (n=dabtd@unaffiliated/mrfish) 00.36.30 Part Brian_S ("...") 00.37.24 Join RoTtE [0] (n=mj1985@ti0011a380-4752.bb.online.no) 00.38.06 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.38.26 # Hello, i have installed rockbox on my sansa, works grate! and i wold like to install it to my Ipod Vide 30.gig 00.38.55 # is there any uillity for that to? 00.39.10 # yes, it's called the manual ;) 00.39.37 Join netrex [0] (n=netrex@216-202-14.541210.adsl.tele2.no) 00.39.38 # How did you install on sansa ? The normal utility, "rbutil", works for most or all supported players 00.39.57 Quit ColinT (Remote closed the connection) 00.40.15 # i used rbutil-0.1a-setup.exe 00.40.26 Join ColinT [0] (n=realizat@69-11-97-130.regn.static.sasknet.sk.ca) 00.40.50 # and i can only see iriver and sansa in the menu 00.41.43 # are you sure about that version number? When and where did you get it (from)? 00.42.18 # You can download Rockbox Utility for Windows from 00.42.18 # http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~christi/misc/rbutil-0.1a-setup.exe 00.42.25 # google it 00.42.31 # http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2005-12/0106.shtml 00.43.23 # that's a really old one http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility and http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002 00.43.34 # is more up-to-date 00.43.42 # tank you so much :=) 00.44.01 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 00.44.02 Quit dexen ("see ya") 00.44.27 Quit dabujo ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 00.44.35 # on my sansa i have a few games and appelications, is it posseble to install more of them? 00.45.16 Nick hd is now known as HellDragon (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 00.45.41 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 00.46.19 # Everything that is considered 'ready' is included. 00.48.09 Join MaxxTwayne [0] (n=52e7f0c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c419c700a7f9bd41) 00.48.37 # bonjour bonjour 00.49.18 # helo 00.49.21 # hi 00.49.28 # gutentag 00.49.29 Quit DerDome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.49.39 # MaxxTwayne, hello 00.49.49 # finally someone 00.49.54 # once would have done... 00.50.54 # MaxxTwayne: on irc (especially on technical channels) it's quite normal not to get an answer for some minutes. Also, if you look at the topic, it links to a page explaining all this... 00.51.33 Quit ender1 (" The Japanese really love nature. For instance, the art of bonsai. That's where they take a little baby tree and torture it") 00.52.04 # i'm used to get answers quite fast on IRC 00.53.17 # You often get answers reasonably fast here as well, but only if you actually ask a question 00.53.20 # i'm used to get answers quite fast on IRC ? 00.53.33 # sorry 00.53.40 # MaxxTwayne: This channel is logged, so we try to keep discussion on-topic for those who read it later. 00.53.45 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-18-212-2.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 00.53.51 Nick chronon is now known as Chronon (i=chronon@c-24-20-117-106.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 00.54.04 # ok, so i'll try to make it fast 00.54.28 # if it's ontopic you can take your time 00.54.36 # It's not quite like that. I just don't tend to respond unless necessary. 00.55.23 # is there a known solution for the "can't load rockbox.ipod" problem ? On a nano 00.55.24 # is the only way to check if an unsupported player will be supported to post about it in the Wiki? Like the iRiver PMC-120 00.56.03 # netrex: the only way to know if a player will ever be supported is to do all the work yourself... 00.56.12 # MaxxTwayne: That means you haven't installed Rockbox - just the bootloader. 00.57.14 # linuxstb: Well, i've unzipped on my ipod, got the directory at the root of the ipod 00.57.24 # what else should i check ? 00.57.29 # What is the directory called? 00.57.38 # .rockbox 00.57.54 Quit appleipodder () 00.58.03 # Is there a rockbox.ipod within that directory? 00.58.15 # yes, there is 00.58.17 # And your ipod is FAT32 formatted? 00.58.25 # yes, it is 00.58.33 # What else does the bootloader say, apart from "can't load rockbox.ipod" ? 00.58.34 # What instructions did you follow to install? 00.58.36 # gevaerts: yes, of course, I just don't have any other iRiver players to check with as it's not sold here in Europe as far as I know, and I don't know anything about programming this way :/ 00.58.38 # is this a new installation? 00.58.49 # * Chronon wonders if the bootloader is the correct version 00.59.47 # linuxstb: says the usual things in this case, it gaves keys t reboot and start in disk mode 01.00.15 # What usual things? It displays different things depending on the reason it can't load it... 01.00.16 # Chronon: i followed the manual i found on the rockbox site for the ipod nano 01.00.57 # linuxstb: i'll restart it and check 01.02.32 Quit sarixe ("(EE) Failed to load "quit" module") 01.04.26 # linuxstb: the given reason is "file not found". Do you want anything more ? 01.05.00 # MaxxTwayne: No, that's pretty conclusive... Did you format your ipod yourself? 01.05.12 # Forget that question... 01.13.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.13.19 Quit netrex ("Hadet. Jeg chattet p? www.mIRC.no") 01.13.33 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-61.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.13.44 Part tomcat_ha 01.18.36 # MaxxTwayne: What's the bootloader version? 01.19.18 # amiconn: 2.0 01.26.31 # sorry guys, but got to go 01.26.33 # bye 01.26.44 Quit MaxxTwayne ("CGI:IRC") 01.26.49 Nick philoware is now known as fehmicans (n=canavar@88.229.11.101) 01.27.03 Quit fehmicans (Remote closed the connection) 01.30.58 Quit BumAz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.32.02 # how does ubs-drv-xxx know how an endpoint must get set up? 01.32.08 # usb* 01.32.28 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.32.31 # hmm. Let me check 01.32.48 # there doesn't seem to be a call from usb_core 01.33.06 # so I suppose usb_drv gets the data from some structs out of usb_core? 01.34.06 # Actually, right now the endpoints are hardcoded (except for the packet size) 01.34.40 # I need to change that one of these days 01.35.00 # in? usb_drv or usb_core? 01.35.07 # can't seem to find them.. 01.36.28 # ah never mind, got them 01.36.40 # init_endpoints() and init_bulk_queue_heads() in usb-drv-pp502x.c are basically it IIRC. On the device side basically every endpoint is associated with a queue head 01.38.24 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 01.38.24 # are queue heads specific to the pp502x usb driver? 01.39.45 # Yes and no. Queue heads are pretty usual on host controllers, and the pp502x controller re-uses them on the device side, but from what I've seen other controllers seem to be different 01.41.45 # so all endpoints (2) are currently set as BULK ? 01.42.34 # Actually, I forgot init_control_queue_heads() for the endpoint 0. But yes, the other two are currently bulk 01.42.46 Quit bughunter2 ("Leaving.") 01.46.29 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.47.35 # isn't usb_drv_ack() implemented? 01.48.07 # looking... 01.49.32 # apparently not. Also not used 01.49.45 # ok 01.50.47 # I probably replaced that with ack_control() in usb_core.c at some point. If it needs to come back as a non-static function, I think it will be as usb_core_ack() 01.53.18 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 01.53.59 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.56.57 Join erillanos [0] (n=4cd3b8f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c373d1b5f922be07) 01.58.39 # hi i have a question about the video player on the ipod nano 1st gen wen i try to play a video on part of the video is shown not lenght wise but screen size is there any was i can change the resolution on the player 01.59.18 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.00.23 # you need to encode it to your LCD's resolution (176x132) 02.00.32 Quit erillanos (Client Quit) 02.00.56 Quit ColinT (Remote closed the connection) 02.01.09 Join ColinT [0] (n=realizat@69-11-97-130.regn.static.sasknet.sk.ca) 02.02.03 Part toffe82 02.03.42 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 02.03.48 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 02.06.13 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 02.10.01 Quit asdrubal ("Leaving") 02.10.39 # gevaerts: how is the usb stack triggered? has this to do with usb_detect() in usb-.c ? 02.12.17 # yes. usb_detect gets called from usb_tick() in usb.c. This sends an internal event that eventually results in usb_enable() in usb-.c 02.13.01 # and usb_enable() has to call the usb stack? 02.13.56 # usb_enable calls usb_core_init(), and after that it's basically device dependent. On PP502x the rest is interrupt-driven 02.14.46 Join argumentD [0] (n=argument@cpe-76-173-115-95.socal.res.rr.com) 02.15.20 # Notifications are passed through the event loop in usb.c which slightly complicates the code, but otherwise the actual usb driver would need its own thread 02.16.38 # does the usb stack compiles as a bootloader? because it complains about a missing UNCACHED_ADDR() 02.17.08 # I never tried 02.24.31 Quit gevaerts ("goodnight") 02.28.22 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 02.33.47 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 02.35.48 Join dewarrn1 [0] (n=DaveAdmi@c-98-212-180-83.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 02.37.22 # I've got a quick question; has the USB handling or stack changed in recent builds of Rockbox? 02.38.22 Part pixelma 02.38.38 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-99-146-83-95.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 02.38.38 Join darkapostrophe [0] (n=darkapos@216-53-82.231210.adsl.tele2.no) 02.38.46 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 02.38.52 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 02.39.17 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 02.39.22 # I ask because I updated yesterday and now my FreeBSD box is throwing a kernel panic when I connect my iPod. 02.39.23 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.39.40 Quit ali_as_ ("zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz") 02.39.49 # Whereas the two used to play together quite nicely. 02.40.34 # Or is this the wrong place to ask? 02.40.49 Join Gr34t3st [0] (i=stoodtst@dialup-4.188.75.23.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) 02.41.36 # Can anyone help me witth dual-booting on a sansa e200r? 02.41.57 # dewarrn1: it's a fine place to ask. I don't know the answer. 02.42.25 # Gr34test: Are the instructions in the manual not working for you? 02.42.32 # K, thanks. 02.42.40 # just thought it would be easier and quicker to ask here. 02.42.47 Join DavidS1 [0] (n=Tordre@n098h202.wsr.mun.ca) 02.43.31 # Ah.. well, I hold "<<" (i.e. Left) while booting to get into the sansa firmware on my e280. 02.43.47 # But please give the manual a read. THere's a lot of info in there on basic usage. 02.44.01 # thanks 02.45.30 # does anyone has the email of Derpapst ? 02.45.58 Quit argumentD (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.48.12 # Gr34t3st, yes, you can.. i have an e280R and it works great 02.49.39 # alright I booted into original firmware but can I get different custom builds and boot to all of them? 02.51.12 # you can but rockbox will not support the custom build tho 02.51.37 # well I don't need the custom build. 02.51.51 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.53.58 # And what exactly are the H3mods? 02.54.26 # that is way different from rockbox.. so it is offtopic 02.54.41 # You could always Google. . . 02.54.45 # ok 02.54.50 # that was plan b 02.54.56 Quit Dark_Apostrophe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.55.28 Quit Chronon ("Real life calls.") 02.56.11 Part Gr34t3st 02.59.45 Quit DavidSG (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.00.12 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.08.13 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@124-168-77-248.dyn.iinet.net.au) 03.08.32 Quit XavierGr () 03.09.04 Join Numinak [0] (n=47e77780@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0ec003cb81551b76) 03.12.12 Part dewarrn1 03.13.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.15.41 # Sorry to bother, but with the forum unaccessable, I've come across a problem I can't resolve. I have the Sansa e250, and it is no longer reading any files I put onto it. It was working fine earlier and for the past week, but today I shut it off and when I turned it back on none of the files will show up in their folders. 03.16.20 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 03.18.29 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 03.20.02 # Numinak: what is your "Show files" setting? 03.21.30 # Let me check. 03.23.27 # I'm not sure, but I went ahead and did 'show all files' and they showed up again. Not sure what happened there, but thank you for pointing me in the right direction. 03.24.01 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.25.05 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 03.27.53 Quit Numinak ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.46.38 Part luckz 04.01.56 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.19.03 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF6F2A.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.19.29 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 04.35.59 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.39.03 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 04.51.30 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 04.57.40 Quit Seedy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.58.29 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d7b99f9f491fc765) 05.03.21 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.09.21 Join Rogue84 [0] (n=Rogue@pool-71-162-232-114.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) 05.10.33 # anybody know how to put songs on ipod in linux thanks 05.10.59 # like what directory 05.11.04 # just drag them over 05.11.23 # I did but it doesn't see them 05.11.26 # any directory you want....most people make a dirctory called "Music" or something liek that though 05.11.42 # what doesnt see them? 05.12.01 # I did but they are on the ipod but the ipod doesn't see them 05.12.22 # what way are you trying to see them? 05.13.04 # on the ipod once it is disconnected from the computer 05.13.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.13.33 # erm...is this in rockbox? 05.13.57 # no just ipod didn't run rockbox yet 05.14.05 # ok....this is #rockbox...where we talk (surprisingly) about rockbox... 05.14.24 # okay just thought I would ask thanks anyway 05.14.33 Quit flynux (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.14.33 Quit jhMikeS (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit m0f0x (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit Xerion (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit DataGhost (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit gromit` (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit fxb__ (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit advcomp2019 (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit rasher (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit daywalker_ (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit tarbo (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit Naked (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit suom1 (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit Slasheri (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit ol_schoola (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit XavierGr (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit Zom (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit markun (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit csc` (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit ch4os_ (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit ChristopherW (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit parafin|away (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit n17ikh (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit ceclin (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit Rick (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit crope`` (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit crwl (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit cg (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit qm (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit maxkelley (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.14.33 Quit Rogue84 ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.1-final for the Atari 2600 today!") 05.14.35 # * scorche|sh sighs 05.14.39 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.14.39 NJoin jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 05.14.39 NJoin Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp975288-b.landg1.lb.home.nl) 05.14.39 NJoin DataGhost [0] (n=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 05.14.39 NJoin gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ALagny-154-1-93-206.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr) 05.14.39 NJoin flynux [0] (n=flynux@2a01:38:0:0:0:0:0:1) 05.14.39 NJoin fxb__ [0] (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 05.14.39 NJoin advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 05.14.39 NJoin rasher [50] (n=rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 05.14.39 NJoin tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 05.14.39 NJoin daywalker_ [0] (n=daywalke@ip-77-87-189-6.dnspower.de) 05.15.05 Part wisp_sh ("õÈÏÖÕ") 05.15.19 Quit ColinT (Remote closed the connection) 05.15.32 Join ColinT [0] (n=realizat@69-11-97-130.regn.static.sasknet.sk.ca) 05.18.07 Join `Tanner` [0] (n=4a809077@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fb2d2963b7ca2b13) 05.19.20 # <`Tanner`> Hi, i have a ipod video (5g) and i can't get it to stop recording, any tips ? 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( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 05.25.32 # `Tanner`: did you check the manual for how to get out of the recoridng screen? 05.29.59 Quit HellDragon (No route to host) 05.33.27 Join vile_maxim [0] (n=jeff@ip24-252-121-136.no.no.cox.net) 05.45.23 Quit tatoot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.49.46 Join deameyes [0] (n=mark@CPE-69-23-137-242.wi.res.rr.com) 05.50.44 # on the sandisk sansa c200 is there a limit to the size of microsd card that can be used when running RockBox? 05.54.11 # deameyes, you can use microsdhc cards but you cant use OF to transfer to them.. i have heard it might be buggy too 05.54.28 # not any that has been reached by actual cards 05.55.29 # and the c200 doesn't have a v2 like the e200, correct? 05.55.55 # the c200 does have a v2 05.56.15 # is it unsupported like the e200's? 05.56.29 # yep 05.56.47 # (like the e200v2) 05.57.25 # alrighty, suppose I'll just wait on the e200 and just work with my 1g nano in the meantime, thanks for all the info 06.00.41 Join Jon-Kha [0] (n=jon-kha@80-248-247-190.cust.suomicom.fi) 06.10.14 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 06.10.27 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0634ad48ea35ba28) 06.12.44 Quit vile_maxim ("Ex-Chat") 06.14.51 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 06.15.02 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-43-44.A166.cust.bahnhof.se) 06.15.27 Join hd [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 06.16.19 Quit hd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.21.44 Quit `Tanner` ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.23.26 Join krz [0] (n=irc_by@turbo.sml.by) 06.23.48 # #gsoc 06.25.16 Quit DavidS1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.31.31 Quit deameyes ("Leaving") 06.35.08 Part bd_ 06.36.17 Quit kritter` (Remote closed the connection) 06.38.17 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 06.39.03 Join kritter` [0] (n=ident@c-98-196-14-134.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) 06.42.10 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.46.21 # i 06.47.09 # o, u, and sometimes y? 06.57.39 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B16216C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 06.59.56 Quit midgey () 07.08.13 # forgot e? 07.10.31 # You said "i," which a and e fall before. 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"svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/trunk rockbox" returns "svn: No repository found in 'svn://svn.rockbox.org/trunk'" 09.49.03 # because that isnt the correct URL 09.49.57 # hmm, "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox" 09.50.00 # thanks. 09.50.03 # ;) 09.50.16 # Beat me to it. 09.50.23 # Not a surprise. 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(interrupt between reading the boold and writing the bools) 12.51.46 # hmm, that's true 12.51.55 # what do you suggest to use instead? 12.52.15 # cant you just disable interrupts while you are in you interrupt routine ? 12.53.07 # hmm, I could temporarily disable that particular interrupt, yes 12.53.50 # * domonoky thinks that should be safe, of course the disabling should be as short as possible.. 12.56.35 Quit qwedsa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.56.45 # anotherway could be to use a atomically test-and-set command on your bool lock.. (then you cant be interupted between reading and writing) 12.58.31 # what do you mean by 'an atomically test-and-set command'? some wrapper around the bool like set_bool(value) ? 13.00.03 # normally all cpu have such a atomic test-and-set command (in asm) , but this isnt aviable in normal C and i dont know if rockbox already has a function or Macro to wrap such a asm command.. 13.00.06 Quit Nevtus ("Gone") 13.00.47 # I think on PP it's a swap command. The kernel code uses it for the locks 13.02.50 Join Christopher1 [0] (n=christop@ip68-3-220-253.ph.ph.cox.net) 13.02.59 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@124-168-77-248.dyn.iinet.net.au) 13.03.32 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.04.08 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 13.05.00 Quit mcuelenaere () 13.05.11 Join Casainho [0] (n=fotograf@87-196-53-37.net.novis.pt) 13.06.13 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 13.06.25 # swap should work.. then its a "compare-and-swap" (cas) but it can be used the same as "test-and-set" (tas) .. 13.07.03 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 13.07.16 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.07.39 # markun: thank you :-) - I have one question: what is "u-boot-1.2.0-atmel.patch.bz2"?? 13.08.01 # markun: nice that you put there the binaries... 13.08.27 # but just locking the interupts should probably the best in a interrupt routine... 13.08.47 Join qwock [0] (n=4fd3efab@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5c3f6dfbfcecef0d) 13.09.30 # amiconn: hello. Do your recent changes also affect sansa e200? 13.09.35 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 13.09.55 # markun: I think I understand now - "u-boot-1.2.0-atmel.patch.bz2" is the patch from Atmel do u-boot and after there is the patch from Olimex dev. board to u-boot :-) 13.10.24 # qwock: do you mean the greyscale lib changes ? 13.10.28 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 13.10.51 # Another question (to everybody): is it possible to do a timed out recording? I.e. I want to start a recording and setup rockbox so that it will automatically stop after, say, one hour? 13.10.56 # domonoky: yes 13.11.24 # doesnt the sansa have a colour display ? 13.11.25 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 13.11.49 # domonoky: yes. Hmm. Stupid question then! :-) 13.12.42 # domonoky: another one: why is the lib in the plugin lib? Isn't it also used in the core rockbox? 13.13.19 # qwock: as far as i know, its only used in plugins.. 13.13.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.13.53 # the greyscale lib uses too much cpu to use it in the core, i think.. 13.15.38 # domonoky: ok. What about the recording timer? 13.16.06 # i dont know, have you checked the manual ? 13.16.06 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-214-055.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 13.17.31 # Wanted to find a setting for this and found the following (bug?) In the trigger setting, the tird line is prerecord and then some rectagles. I use nimbus font. But my RB version is quite old (r15957). Could you verify? 13.17.49 # i think you can do this recording timer thing using the triggers.. 13.18.18 # the trigger settings are fine for me, please update your build.. 13.19.59 Quit ChristopherW (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.20.24 # domonoky: ok. With my old build, but on h120, I see Prerecording time and then nothing. If I press left/right, the setting value appears. But not initially when I've just entered the screen. I'll see if an update will help. Not tat I use the feature though. 13.20.52 # qwock: always update before reporting any bug :-) 13.21.22 # domonoky: the reason why my build is so old is that I try to update only when I really need to, e.g. if there's a problem. 13.21.43 # domonoky: yes, I know. That's why I asked if it's really a bug. 13.22.09 # qwock: thats fine.. just update now and recheck if the problem persists.. 13.22.10 # take a backup of your build, update, check, report 13.23.45 # BigBambi: hehe, that's very true: backup! 13.24.06 # One of the most important words :) 13.27.02 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.27.27 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.28.52 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 13.28.56 # Why isn't the model name appended to the downloadable .zip (i.e. rockbox-e200.zip)? 13.33.51 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 13.33.57 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.34.26 Quit qwock ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 13.34.55 Join qwedsa [0] (n=superman@ip51ccca31.speed.planet.nl) 13.39.39 Join qwock [0] (n=4fd3efab@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0295b5f102e5d301) 13.40.27 # markun: are you there? 13.42.04 Quit Thundercloud (Remote 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development time and Rockbox could reduce the price of product." i dont think we can reduce the price below zero .. :-) 15.20.26 # maybe the users will get money for using rockbox? 15.20.32 # :D 15.20.50 # would be a completely new concept for sw production :-) 15.21.53 # Is it just me or are there a few which are a bit weird? 15.21.58 Join Nevtus [0] (n=Nevtus@unaffiliated/nevtus) 15.22.07 # it's not just you 15.22.17 # Ok cool 15.22.27 # The integration with itunes thing seems a bit silly 15.22.38 # As how would rockbox deal with DRMed crap? 15.22.49 Join Vampiryan [0] (n=vacz@nemesis.dunainfo.net) 15.22.54 # hi all 15.22.57 # Also, the usability study one annoys me simply because they quote GNOME as a reference :P 15.23.01 # Good day 15.23.23 # i'd like to ask something about th eiaudio g3 15.23.27 # Thundercloud: are you referring to our wiki page? 15.23.49 # I was talking about the actual applications 15.24.05 # is it impossible, to enable recording with higher than 128kbps mp3 in line in mode? 15.24.05 # Nico_P: I thought the wiki page had a list of proposals on it 15.24.18 # is it a hardware, or a software limited issue? 15.24.32 # Thundercloud: yes, that's the project proposals we made to students 15.24.37 # Nico_P: Ah 15.24.39 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.24.58 # I think using GNOME as a reference for usability is a bad idea 15.25.04 # Vampiryan: iaudio g3 ? 15.25.23 # yeah 15.25.26 # GNOME is certainly usable but using their paradigms usually result in a lack of configurability. 15.25.42 # Vampiryan: rockbox doesnt run on those, so its offtopic here 15.26.18 # I mean 15.26.48 # what can be the reason for no higher recording rate enabled, even the hardware supports it? 15.26.58 # for any player which can record line in 15.27.15 # Thundercloud: GNOME's choices are mostly irrelevant here. They're just cited as related, not necessarily as an example to follow. 15.27.22 # Llorean: Okay 15.27.37 # Just last thing i'd want is to see Rockbox be GNOMEified 15.28.00 # Vampiryan: This channel is for the Rockbox software... 15.28.05 # ehh 15.29.04 # yeah and while developing rockbox, this question never has appeared or? 15.29.25 # What the original software does doesn't matter to Rockbox. 15.29.39 # Vampiryan: rockbox doesnt run on this player, so we dont know the hardware (but rockbox can record in a higher quality :-) ) 15.30.03 # so it can be a software limit, that's what Im askin 15.30.12 # It can be either. 15.30.31 # ok, one more question if I may 15.30.44 # Vampiryan: only if it is rockbox related 15.30.49 # This channel is not for questions about random MP3 players. 15.31.01 # are you using any service manuals why delevoping rockbox software for DAPs? 15.31.28 # (sorry for my english:D) 15.31.32 # for the Gigabeat it was useful 15.31.40 # (the service manual) 15.31.40 # We use any documentation we feel we legally can, but that ranges from "fully documented datasheets" to "nothing at all but what we can work out by our own experimentation" 15.31.42 # Vampiryan: we are using any documentation we can get legally.. :-) 15.32.13 # understood, thx 15.34.02 Quit Ravendug () 15.34.32 Join Ravendug [0] (n=ravendug@73.100-84-212.ippool.ndo.com) 15.37.25 Quit midgey () 15.49.52 Quit appleipodder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.51.49 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("This computer has gone to sleep") 15.54.37 Join qwedsa_ [0] (n=superman@ip51ccca31.speed.planet.nl) 16.05.50 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 16.05.51 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-230-102.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.05.57 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-230-102.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.07.12 Quit qwedsa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.07.24 Join ByeongKeon [0] (n=skysign@221.150.30.39) 16.08.28 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-214-006.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 16.12.44 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 16.12.48 Quit kushal_12_27_200 (Remote closed the connection) 16.23.21 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-208-236.student.uu.se) 16.26.32 Join domonok1 [0] (n=Domonoky@e181176205.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.27.06 Quit disorganizer (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.28.08 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.28.20 Quit UncleRemus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.33.53 Quit Nevtus ("Gone") 16.45.03 Quit domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.55.02 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279396235.dsl.bell.ca) 16.58.51 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-159.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 17.01.33 Quit ol_schoola () 17.05.46 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 17.13.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.13.54 Join piga [0] (n=leonardo@189.5.228.43) 17.15.11 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4CEAE.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.15.55 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 17.21.37 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 17.25.07 # is there some kind of #define for the sector size? 17.25.59 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-230-102.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.26.03 # sector size is one of these fun things that are not always easy to get... 17.26.52 # For what context do you need it ? 17.27.50 Quit ByeongKeon () 17.28.35 # sqlite :) 17.28.57 # I'll just return 512 (the default) for now, the cause of the crash I'm having seems to be elsewhere 17.29.02 # :) Ok, so you have a filesystem I guess ? 17.29.44 # the new rockbox database? 17.29.47 # :D 17.30.24 # gevaerts: If you mean a VFS, I have the start of one, yes 17.30.29 # I added a variable 'disk_sector_multiplier' somewhere (only available if MAX_LOG_SECTOR_SIZE is defined) which is 1 for 512 byte sectors and 4 for 2048 byte sectors 17.30.40 # what is the idea with sqlite for rockbox? 17.30.56 # Actually I meant a rockbox filesystem, i.e. you're not trying to format a fresh partition or anything 17.30.59 # Slasheri: just trying the thing out as a plugin 17.31.29 # Slasheri: We were curious how well it'd work as a plugin library. 17.31.44 # ah, for plugins that would be ok 17.32.05 # Just trying to pave the way to eventually use oracle on rockbox :) 17.32.48 # Slasheri: actually I'm not sure if it's really unusable for the tagcache 17.33.39 Quit ColinT (Remote closed the connection) 17.34.20 # gevaerts: i might not be completely unusable, but i see many ways it could decrease performance, increase ram consumption & code size a lot, and prevent certain features 17.34.23 # *it 17.35.04 # That's why it has to be tried. Once it's available as a plugin we can actually measure these things 17.35.05 Join Mathiasdm2 [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 17.35.10 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.35.21 Nick Mathiasdm2 is now known as Mathiasdm (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 17.35.39 # And I don't really see what features it could prevent 17.35.53 # what would be the advantage of using sqlite? 17.36.17 # i see no reason to put it into the tagcache core 17.36.24 # * gevaerts lets Nico_P answer that. After all he started this :) 17.36.58 # i am pretty sure same will happen than happened with the playback engine.. but in a much more devastating way 17.37.00 # I'm not sure there would be advantages as a tagcache replacement and I agree it's very likely to be slower 17.37.33 # shat happened with the playback engine? 17.37.42 # s/shat/what 17.37.55 # I agree that if it's not clearly better it shouldn't go in. But I also think that we don't know yet if it is or not 17.38.15 # tagcache is quite well optimized for performance (there is still room for improvements) and the engine itself is stable 17.39.59 # Nico_P: it became unstable for a long period of time. but probably the current state is now much cleaner and better it was earlier 17.40.24 # ah, you got me worried there :) 17.40.38 # I'm still hoping to improve it btw 17.40.49 # (and by that I mean make it more stable) 17.40.58 # * gevaerts wants playlists as sql views :) 17.41.45 # Nico_P: will you call it rocklite or sqlbox ? 17.41.50 Join ColinT [0] (n=realizat@69-11-97-130.regn.static.sasknet.sk.ca) 17.42.15 # hehe... currently it's sqlite3test and it crashes miserably 17.43.48 # Does it have a serial console ? 17.44.40 # the plugin or sqlite? 17.45.07 # The plugin. You could use usbserial for it (once it stops crashing anyway) 17.45.25 # I'm still quite far from that, but why not 17.45.58 # right now I'm filling the holes in my VFS implementation 17.46.01 # Do you already have an idea about binary and RAM size ? 17.46.09 # not really 17.46.59 # I don't know how plugins are linked against the pluginlib... could someone enlighten me on that? 17.49.11 Quit ol_schoola () 17.49.55 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 18.09.37 # * Nico_P got rid of his crash :) 18.09.45 # now to do a real test 18.11.37 # I think that those wikipedia plugin folks might actually like to have a database 18.11.58 # I was also thinking of some kind of AA DB maybe 18.12.09 # a test DB would be nice now 18.14.26 # Northwind ? 18.17.09 Quit fehmicans (Remote closed the connection) 18.20.00 # looks like my DB commands don't do anything right now 18.24.34 Quit krz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.28.03 # it's working! \o/ 18.28.34 # \☺/ 18.29.33 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9vm.cable.mindspring.com) 18.29.59 # gevaerts: btw, can vim comment a line or a block of selected code? 18.30.18 Nick Christopher1 is now known as ChristopherW (n=christop@ip68-3-220-253.ph.ph.cox.net) 18.30.29 # It probably can, but I usually use search/replace for that 18.31.45 # Rasher's pre-built sim server is down. Is there a mirror? I wanted to send someone a link to check out RB. 18.32.15 # No mirror that I know of 18.33.04 # :( 18.34.00 # gevaerts: my test plugin is 900K right now ;) 18.34.24 # I haven't tried to bring it down though 18.34.26 # Put it in the core and commit immediately ! 18.34.48 # * gevaerts wants to know how many heart attacks that delta would cause 18.34.51 # haha I'll get stripped of my commit rights within a couple hours 18.35.50 # Can you run 'size' on it to see how much of that is code ? 18.36.49 # which part is the code? 18.36.49 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]") 18.37.10 # dec? 18.37.13 Quit Vampiryan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.37.28 # text 18.37.35 # 448089 18.38.22 # Did you build with all optional features enabled ? 18.38.33 # probably some 18.39.07 # I added the amalgamation and defined OS_OTHER at the top of it 18.39.43 # at first I thought I had to write a special makefile but that doesn't seem to be needed 18.40.20 # What did you have to actually change ? Only the os_* files ? 18.40.56 # I just wrote a VFS implementation based on the one in http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=SqliteVfs 18.41.07 # which is a bit outdated I found out later 18.41.15 # I used os_unix as a reference 18.42.14 # So no internal changes required. That's pretty good... 18.42.35 # yep... i only added three lines on top of sqlite3.c (the amalgamation) 18.43.07 Join bluebrother [0] (n=Dom@f053154008.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.43.25 # At least that makes it easy to update it for new upstream releases 18.43.27 # one is the OS_OTHER define and the other two are the declaration of the plugin API pointer because currently isdigit is a macro that leads to using it 18.45.05 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 18.45.53 # * gevaerts watches FS like a hawk to make sure he doesn't miss the new sqlite entry 18.46.12 # I'll warn you ;) 18.46.30 # I'm trying to test northwind now but first I need to see what's in it and I suck at SQL 18.47.02 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 18.47.11 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@layl001.digis.net) 18.47.42 # sqlite entry in FS? 18.48.00 # bluebrother: yes 18.48.47 # select * from sqlite_master; in Northwind seems to have worked just fine 18.49.29 # for what usage? Plugins? 18.49.34 # Maybe try an insert to see if writing works 18.49.42 # bluebrother: yes, it's in the pluginlib 18.49.51 # bluebrother: because it's there ? 18.49.59 # gevaerts: I've tried that already, creating a table, inserting two values in it and then reading them 18.50.15 # is that already on FS? Haven't noticed such a thing 18.50.24 # bluebrother: no it's not there yet 18.50.44 # ah, ok. 18.50.47 # gevaerts: I can give you the VFS impl and the test plugin if you're interested 18.50.53 # * bluebrother just found an interesting mail on qt-interest 18.51.11 Join darkapostrophe [0] (n=darkapos@216-53-82.231210.adsl.tele2.no) 18.51.11 # Nico_P: according to http://www.sqlite.org/compile.html you have to add defines to omit features, so now you probably have a full everything-enabled build 18.51.21 # I guess so 18.51.30 # thanks for the link 18.52.15 # I don't know how to run the test suite yet though 18.52.28 # Nico_P: I am interested, for now mainly to see how small I can get it 18.52.46 # It is fairly important that it's possible to get it small enough to use in other plugins. 18.52.53 # gevaerts: does DCC work for you? 18.53.08 # DCC should work 18.54.25 # I'll make a patch 18.54.35 # ()without the amalgamation 18.56.53 # apply this patch and copy sqlite3.{c,h} to apps/plugins/lib 18.57.24 # then add the follwing lines to the top of apps/plugins/lib/sqlite3.c 18.58.04 # #include "plugin.h" 18.58.04 # struct plugin_api* rb; 18.58.09 # #define OS_OTHER 1 18.59.24 # I found the Northwind db here: http://www.mail-archive.com/sqlite-users@sqlite.org/msg22708.html 18.59.25 # bluebrother: what have you found ? anything of interest for rbutil ? :-) 18.59.27 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 18.59.56 # * gevaerts tries to compile 19.00.17 # a link to stacktrace. It's said to be helpful when debugging recursion issues. 19.00.20 # why are the forums down this weekend? 19.00.33 # but it's linux only 19.01.04 # robin0800: I seem to be able to get to them ,but they've been problematic lately. 19.01.15 # robin0800: If they were intentionally down, we'd put up a message saying why. 19.01.46 # * bluebrother likes those questions and thinks about answering "because we want to have more complaints and fun" 19.03.02 # gevaerts: oh, and make install won't copy the test plugin anywhere because it's not in CATEGORIES, so either add it there or copy it manually after running make 19.03.05 # its all for our customers inconvenience :-) 19.03.21 # Nico_P: I get linker errors about missing mem* and str* functions 19.03.30 # just this time managed to get there !! 19.03.31 # hmm, I'm wondering if the buildall.sh for checkwps could be done with make only 19.03.48 # gevaerts: what are you building? I made a sim 19.04.03 # This is c200 I think 19.04.26 # I didn't test any target 19.04.36 # only the gigabeat sim 19.04.40 # * gevaerts tries a sim 19.05.42 # spoke too soon they don't work 19.05.43 # oh I forgot at least one "rb->", so that might cause problems 19.07.39 # and everything in sqlite3.c is going to cause problems on target too without that rb-> prefix 19.08.09 Quit DA_Desktop (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.08.41 # getting it to compile on targets might be much harder :/ 19.09.05 # Well, it compiles. It just doesn't link ;) 19.10.01 # true :) 19.10.44 # Maybe some #define memset rb->memset tricks ? 19.11.12 # maybe, but there are a few of those that need to be done 19.11.25 # also there seems to be some malloc calls 19.13.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.14.57 Join bruges|afk_ [0] (n=bruges@e178039202.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.21.42 # The malloc calls can be "removed" by #define SQLITE_MEMORY_SIZE nnn (but nnn will have to be determined by app testing) 19.22.19 Quit ColinT (Remote closed the connection) 19.22.23 # yes 19.22.32 Join ColinT [0] (n=realizat@69-11-97-130.regn.static.sasknet.sk.ca) 19.22.41 # gevaerts: does it work OK for you in a sim? 19.23.11 # Actually, I haven't tried that yet :) But it does compile 19.23.38 # ok :) 19.23.48 # * Nico_P goes to do some shopping, bbl 19.23.49 Join ap0 [0] (i=kvirc@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 19.25.57 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 19.26.40 Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection) 19.27.14 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-214-006.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 19.28.18 Quit corevette (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.28.42 Join DA_Desktop [0] (n=darkapos@216-53-82.231210.adsl.tele2.no) 19.31.53 Quit XavierGr () 19.33.39 Quit bruges|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.39.55 Quit ColinT () 19.41.38 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-18-212-2.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 19.45.32 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.45.45 Quit darkapostrophe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.46.53 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 19.47.04 Join Nevtus [0] (n=Nevtus@unaffiliated/nevtus) 19.50.02 Join mrfree [0] (n=mrfree@79.32.176.44) 19.50.46 Join markun_ [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 19.51.39 # hi all I noticed a strange behaviour when I browse music using next/prev and playing music... the switching is slow and usually (root) appears instead of track name 19.51.50 # I have an iPod nano 19.52.17 Quit markun (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.03.41 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-165-151.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 20.03.58 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@drb87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 20.04.33 Quit ap0 ("Bye.") 20.05.45 Join Wiz [0] (n=5901b423@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9be4ea24811c4da5) 20.09.33 # Hi. I need help. 20.10.15 Join bluebrother^ [0] (n=Dom@f053152013.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.10.21 # Then you should ask a question 20.11.47 Nick Wiz is now known as AHDKLS (n=5901b423@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9be4ea24811c4da5) 20.13.47 # Can't see any hebrew in my Sansa E250. All i see is gibberish. 20.14.20 # Have you selected a font with Hebrew characters? 20.14.32 # And what codepage is it set to? 20.14.47 # And are you talking about menus etc, or metadata 20.14.50 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 20.14.54 Nick bluebrother^ is now known as bluebrother (n=Dom@f053152013.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.15.06 # And what encoding are you using for the metadata etc? 20.15.28 # I'v Selected a font called Hebrew-Big 20.15.44 # About the codepage, dunno 20.16.15 # Well, could you possibly check? I can't see from here 20.16.25 # The menus are in hebrew but the filenames are the problem 20.16.33 # gevaerts: have you gotten somewhere? 20.16.38 # Does anyone know how to prevent gcc to generate memcpy calls, or how to allow the pluginlib to link if they are generated ? 20.17.28 # Nico_P: the sim works, and the only remaining target link problems are gcc-generated memcpys 20.17.35 # nice 20.18.10 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.18.16 # Plz instruct me. 20.18.26 # Please use real words 20.18.39 # The manual will tell you how to set/check the codepage 20.19.02 # hah, the S6D0154X data sheet needs a korean fontset for acrobat reader... 20.19.16 # otherwise it turns up blank 20.19.39 # so I fixed the fonts, but I can't see any korean in the document! 20.20.02 Join Reinhart [0] (i=wizard@chime.student.utwente.nl) 20.20.48 # AHDKLS: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch7.html#x10-1160007.5 20.20.49 # it is a "MOBILE DISPLAY DRIVER IC" used in the meizu, and the docs was posted in the meizume forum 20.21.02 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 20.21.25 # AHDKLS: Hebrew is Hebrew ISO-8859-8 I believe 20.21.45 # Or rather, the wiki believes: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UnicodeGuide 20.22.28 Quit domonok1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.23.18 Quit AHDKLS ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.23.30 # * gevaerts decides to cheat 20.25.05 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 20.31.20 Join AHDKLS [0] (n=AHDKLS@89.1.180.35.dynamic.barak-online.net) 20.32.01 # * Reinhart is wondering what the binsize of sqlite is in target builds (only linking failed, right?) 20.32.31 # AHDKLS: Sorry, I just reread your previous messages - for filenames, you should just need the correct font 20.33.20 # size sqlite3.o 20.33.20 # text data bss dec hex filename 20.33.20 # 349403 147 1660 351210 55bea sqlite3.o 20.33.50 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.34.06 # That's for c250, with all optional features enabled 20.34.14 # But i'v already chose the Heb font. 20.34.20 # I know 20.35.05 # still pretty big :/ but yeah, you can disable a lot. especially since we don't have to worry about locking against other processes. 20.35.09 # AHDKLS: I'm going to PM you, OK? I'd like you to type me something Hebrew out so I can check it. You should see another tab appear with my username 20.35.26 # hi all I noticed a strange behaviour when I browse music using next/prev and playing music... the switching is slow and usually (root) appears instead of track name 20.35.28 # I have an iPod nano 20.37.27 # mrfree: (root) is from the WPS and it's normal that it appears when skipping to nonbuffered tracks 20.37.57 # the being slow is also partly normal for the same reasons, but what build/version are you using? 20.38.44 # Reinhart: when you talk about locking against other processes, do you mean things like sqlite3OsLock/Unlock? 20.38.53 # gevaerts: did you get it to link? 20.39.10 # Nico_P: yes, but not yet to work 20.39.16 # it crashes, 20.39.17 # ? 20.39.39 # Plugin returned an error 20.41.27 # Nico_P, gevaerts : what is missing to write a driver for the usb of the S, we have all the datasheet 20.41.54 # Basically you need to find out how to enable the controller 20.42.40 # so you need to find the pin used by the cpu for the chip select and the reset ? 20.43.12 # of the usb chip 20.43.54 # As far as I can see, yes. The things in usb-fw-pp502x.c basically 20.44.13 # gevaerts: did you copy the Northwind.db file? 20.44.43 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 20.44.53 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@79.20.214.140) 20.45.09 # gevaerts: I put this on my todo list, I will try to trace it as soon as I can 20.45.22 # now I have to go 20.47.03 # is the GBSYSTEM folder on the gigabeat hidden / system? 20.47.15 # bluebrother: Both 20.47.33 # thanks. Then autodetection can't detect the mountpoint for the gigabeat ... 20.47.43 # Nico_P: it's there 20.47.50 # * bluebrother just ran into a similar issue with iPod_Control detection 20.55.22 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 21.02.33 Join keanu [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 21.06.31 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=stephen@adsl-68-88-140-226.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.07.52 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p5B23DEC0.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.11.16 Join ap0 [0] (i=kvirc@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 21.13.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.14.37 Join petur [0] (n=51a46d93@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.14.45 # gevaerts: the locking stuff I was talking about is mainly in os_*.c, are you compiling any of that code? 21.14.48 Join gregzx_ [0] (n=chatzill@dru91.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 21.15.12 # Reinhart: Nico_P did that bit, but AFAIK we don't use that 21.15.51 # no we don't. most of the functions are stubs 21.16.17 # I think I wrote the absolute minimum to get it to work 21.17.30 # I now disabled all optional features. It's now at 260000 bytes text, or 235000 if I use -Os 21.17.50 # ok, I figured as much when I found the code I was talking about. I was just working from memory from a while ago 21.21.07 # the size is a bit disappointing (it's bigger than on x86 iirc?), especially since I figure the current tagcache db code at about 30-50kb 21.21.41 # rough estimate from some object file sizes :) 21.22.41 # tagcache is 29840 text, 108 data and 19340 bss here 21.23.10 # tagcache is far more specialized 21.23.15 # The annoying thing is that with my disable-everything version nothing seems to work any more 21.23.30 # even on sim? 21.23.42 # yes 21.23.43 # * petur spots a golden quote 21.24.17 # haha :) 21.24.18 # * gevaerts warns against the dangers of quoting out of context 21.24.30 Join Vampiryan [0] (n=vacz@nemesis.dunainfo.net) 21.24.37 # tagcache object includes a lot of stuff we'd still need on sqlite (specific handling for metadata fields), but it excludes the custom query code we now have which sqlite could potentially also replace 21.24.48 # * petur doesn' t care :p 21.24.50 # gevaerts: have you tried disabling only malloc? 21.25.44 # Nico_P: I think I did, but I'll try again to make sure 21.25.48 Quit hannesd (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.25.58 # gevaerts: I think things like "file access" (pager.c) are also technically optional, but I assume you didn't disable that? 21.26.23 # Reinhart: "disable everything" means http://www.sqlite.org/compile.html#omitfeatures 21.26.27 Quit ol_schoola () 21.28.12 # ok, nm then :) 21.28.18 # *nevermind 21.28.31 Quit gregzx_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]") 21.29.25 # Reinhart: Well, it's probably true that sqlite isn't the most suitable thing for replacing the metadata database. 21.29.30 # But it still may be useful for future plugins. 21.29.55 # Nico_P, I'm using the latest build 21.30.07 # and why that would need to be replaced? 21.30.12 # I updated rockbox some hours ago 21.30.46 Quit gregzx (Connection timed out) 21.30.57 # Slasheri: afaik, it doesn't. 21.30.58 # Nico_P, can I make something about buffering? 21.31.49 Quit petur ("relatives -> home") 21.31.54 # * Reinhart wouldn't dare argue against porting cool libraries to rockbox 21.32.31 # * Reinhart is working on porting some OpenSSL code, in fact :) 21.32.32 # mrfree: how long does it typically take? 21.32.53 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 21.33.26 # the UI part of the tagcache (tagnavi) could be replaced with something even better, but moving tagcache engine to some other implementation would be most likely pointles 21.34.21 Join icemong [0] (n=ice@70-57-172-86.clsp.qwest.net) 21.34.42 # Is anyone aware of an implementation of the game 'Go' on Rockbox? 21.34.57 Join wjlroe [0] (n=will@willroe.gotadsl.co.uk) 21.37.25 Join critter- [0] (n=ident@c-98-196-14-134.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) 21.37.32 Quit wjlroe (Client Quit) 21.40.01 # icemong: AFAIK there's not one. I don't think it'd work very well, traditionally Go AIs are very weak 21.40.05 # you can search the tracker for one if you wish 21.40.20 # I think there is a feature request for it. 21.40.54 # thanks =) 21.43.51 # Nico_P, with some music almost always 21.44.52 # mrfree: always meaning everytime you skip? 21.44.59 # Nico_P, sure 21.45.19 # what kind of music would that be? very long tracks? 21.45.28 # Nico_P, I thought is could be related with the file size 21.45.43 # high bitrate, I think 320 21.45.47 Join solss [0] (n=diGiheX@88.253.83.73) 21.47.57 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.48.14 # Nico_P, yes I checked 320Kbps and file size of about 10-15MB 21.48.38 # so 2 or 3 of them would fit in the ~30 MB buffer 21.49.30 Quit bruges|afk_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.49.32 Join bruges|afk__ [0] (n=bruges@e178039202.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.49.42 Nick bruges|afk__ is now known as bruges|afk (n=bruges@e178039202.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.49.43 Quit HellDragon (Remote closed the connection) 21.50.05 # ok thanks for the info, I think I'll recompress with ogg -q 6 :) 21.53.13 Join hd [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 21.54.17 # Nico_P: it doesn't crash anymore, and on the sim it does the select * from sqlite_master correctly (no idea on c200, can you use logf from a plugin ?) 21.54.41 # you could try to output it to a file 21.55.21 # gevaerts: see http://www.sqlite.org/sqlite.html 21.55.41 # I'll try it in my sim 21.55.42 Quit ap0 ("Bye.") 21.56.46 # Nico_P: insert statements don't seem to work reliably, and on the target a create table seems to fail 21.57.08 # hmm no the .output thingy doesn't seem to work with sqlite3_exec, but the callback could write the file 21.57.16 # hmm 21.57.21 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b8fa1e4513600eee) 21.57.30 Quit saratoga (Client Quit) 21.57.47 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-26a377c32d789726) 21.57.59 # Question: The VMware image doesn't come with 7z, does it? 21.58.15 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform 21.58.39 # has anyone applied for the rockbox as an app project yet? 21.59.04 # saratoga: Only in a roundabout way 21.59.14 # Rockbox on Android (which seems infeasible) 21.59.38 # yes the timing is a bit off for that project 21.59.39 # Shouldn't it come with 7z? The rockbox source code is in a 7z archive 21.59.55 # we'll probably have to wait for an actual shipping phone before people can start hacking that 22.00.08 # saratoga: That, and Android is supposed to be all JAVA-ey 22.00.10 # i think there's a rather advanced emulator 22.00.26 # kugel: You're supposed to check it out with SVN, not download the .7z file 22.00.30 # it even runs arm code 22.00.45 # ah then maybe not too early 22.00.50 # Llorean: Sure, but the archive should be an legal option 22.01.27 # kugel: Not necessarily 22.01.37 # is there some developer I should talk to about the rockbox as an app work? 22.01.45 # i'm curious how people think that should be done 22.01.45 Quit icemong ("Leaving") 22.02.00 # kugel: adding 7zip is a healthy exercise 22.02.00 # kugel: The archive was only changed to 7z recently 22.02.11 # saratoga: linuxstb has been the most vocal requester lately 22.02.11 # for the user I mean 22.02.15 # kugel: The archive is there more for cases where SVN cannot be used. Any serious development should be done with SVN, and if you're using the VMWare image, your obviously in an environment where SVN is present 22.02.26 # kugel: Feel free to provide an updated VMWare image 22.02.27 # *you're 22.02.50 # ´Nah, I'm not using it, and I don't use VMware at all (I prefer VBox) 22.02.54 # BigBambi: I don't think we need it. We should be discouraging use of the source archive anyway (even with the FILES gone, it's probably still not as consistent) 22.03.18 # Llorean: I agree, but if he really wants to I don't see the harm 22.03.25 # But a user of my build came up with that problem, he wanted to use my source, which I have packed in a 7z archive 22.03.43 Quit hd (Client Quit) 22.03.44 # kugel: Then tell him how to install 7-zip. :) 22.03.54 # I don't think we are too bothered about unsupported builds as well 22.03.56 # I'm doing 22.04.03 # They aren't a reason to do anything 22.04.05 Nick solss is now known as serdarakkan (n=diGiheX@88.253.83.73) 22.04.36 # My build isn't the topic 22.04.50 # But a user of my build came up with that problem, he wanted to use my source, which I have packed in a 7z archive 22.05.02 # So? 22.05.03 # i asked linuxstb a little about it, but he didn't go into too much detail 22.05.04 # And all I said was that that wasn't a reason to include it 22.05.37 # kugel: put it in a svn repo! ;-) 22.05.49 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549677AD.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.05.49 Quit Vampiryan () 22.06.00 # Bagder: I just had this idea too ;) Then I had commit rights :P 22.06.57 # kugel: you can always set up your own repo ... 22.07.26 # BigBambi: I just thought, it would be a good idea to have the VMWare image prepared for rockbox in all aspects, which includes being able to extract the source archive 22.07.35 # and a user of vmware could extract the sources on the host, then copy it to the guest ;) 22.07.41 # kugel: git with something like stgit could be useful 22.07.51 # kugel: Sure, and I agree, I just don't think it is that important 22.08.07 # I never said ti would be a bad thing 22.08.28 # hello everyone 22.08.29 # meh, I'm satisfied with my enviroment actually 22.08.53 # i want to join google summer of code program for rockbox 22.09.04 # doing what? 22.09.08 Nick qm is now known as qwm (i=qwm@c83-254-194-26.bredband.comhem.se) 22.09.16 # and i prepared a proposal for this 22.09.22 # doing an arm emulator 22.09.43 # serdarakkan: did you notice our comments on it? 22.10.13 # gevaerts send me a comment about my proposal 22.10.23 # can I see your proposal? 22.10.27 # I added some too 22.10.54 Join robin0800_ [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 22.11.22 # yes 22.11.28 # i saw it now 22.14.00 # gevaerts, Nico_P: There's a macro, MEM_FUNCTION_WRAPPERS(rb), that you can call in your plugin to insert *mem functions that call the real *mem functions through the api so that gcc can do its thing. 22.14.12 # ok i read it 22.14.20 # i think i should edit my proposal 22.14.40 # according to Bagder's comment 22.14.46 # shuold i? 22.15.16 # serdarakkan: also, you've selected a project that at least one other student also has proposed, so you should probably try to also include details on why you are the most suitable student to do this 22.15.27 # kugel: maybe you could add that on the wiki page for the vmware image, I added 2 things that i would like to see fixed in the next version when I used it last 22.16.01 Join xroq [0] (n=JBouncer@athedsl-258069.home.otenet.gr) 22.16.27 # n1s: thanks for the tip :) 22.16.39 Part xroq ("Leaving") 22.16.54 # Bagder: ok thanks for your comments. i will edit it 22.17.30 # gevaerts: I've written a callback that writes to a file 22.17.58 # I would love to see a skyeye based emulator 22.18.11 # Nico_P: great. I'm now testing with rb->splash() 22.19.00 # gevaerts: http://pastebin.ca/972900 22.20.21 # Bagder: did he propose using skyeye? 22.20.32 # no, I did 22.20.46 # gevaerts: add the O_CREAT flag to the open call, that way you won't have to touch the file 22.21.03 # what emulator did he propose? 22.21.16 # Nico_P: good idea :) 22.21.25 Join hd [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 22.21.38 # saratoga: I'd rather not reveal too much from his proposal unless he wants to himself 22.22.29 # can't skyeye run rockbox ATM? 22.22.44 # it should be able to run a lot of ARM code 22.23.04 # but it lacks peripherals so it won't function 22.23.29 # Bagder: I'm not going to be applying for that project, and the proposal was my idea, so is there someway i can be involved in the emulator proposal? 22.23.44 # err emulator GSOC project 22.25.46 # Nico_P: it seems to run fine on the sansa, but my create table and insert statements don't seem to do anything. I did add sqlite3_close(db); at the end 22.26.28 # gevaerts: so it outputs the Northwind tables correctly but doesn't seem to write? 22.26.37 # Exactly 22.26.58 # does your writing code work OK in the sim? 22.27.05 # I mean your writing commands 22.27.27 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.27.27 Nick robin0800_ is now known as robin0800 (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 22.27.36 Quit hd (Client Quit) 22.27.51 # * gevaerts checks to make sure 22.28.08 # the commented code worked fine for me in the sim 22.28.32 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.28.37 # Maybe I don't allocate enough memory for it to work 22.29.13 # #define SQLITE_MEMORY_SIZE 75*1024 works for me 22.29.22 # 50*1024 didn't 22.29.57 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.32.06 Join darkapostrophe [0] (n=darkapos@216-53-82.231210.adsl.tele2.no) 22.32.39 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.32.56 # back 22.34.32 Part J-23 22.35.07 Join hd [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 22.36.20 # gevaerts: how did you get it to link on target btw? 22.36.34 # Nico_P: wrappers around all missing functions 22.36.45 # like the ones in MEM_FUNCTION_WRAPPERS(api) ? 22.36.55 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p5B23DEC0.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.36.57 # would you mind putting them in a pastebin? 22.37.34 # I'll do that soon. I have some RL-stuff for about 10 to 15 minutes now 22.37.47 # no problem 22.38.06 # * amiconn wonders about all this sqlite talk 22.38.22 # it's mostly experimental 22.38.38 # * Bagder sees people looking out the window while whistling 22.41.10 # * Nico_P wonders what Bagder means 22.41.18 # Imho the pure binsize comparison leaves a single option: drop the idea, it's not worth it 22.41.34 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.41.38 # linuxstb: ping 22.41.48 # amiconn: in plugins binsize doesn't matter much, does it? 22.42.45 # Depends on the target. And why would we need a second database engine if we already have one that works fairly well in the core 22.42.47 # ? 22.42.51 Quit serdarakkan () 22.42.54 Nick hd is now known as HellDragon (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 22.43.10 # I'm not aiming towards replacing tagcache 22.43.16 # I agree it works fine 22.43.56 # The quoted binsize is more than half of the plugin ram on big-mem targets, and about 9x the plugin ram on low-mem targets 22.44.46 # but if it brings new fun things, what's the harm? 22.44.54 # I'm aware of that. I'm simply having fun :) 22.45.17 # * Nico_P sometimes gets tired of playback.c, honest! 22.45.23 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-211-241.dsl.scarlet.be) 22.45.46 # amiconn: swp(b) appears to be broken on PP5022/4 as well when using it with uncached dram (surprise :\). http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/nocache_sections.diff 22.46.13 # * amiconn can't imagine an application where an sql database would be useful on a rockbox target 22.46.37 # jhMikeS: Yeah, but on PP5002 it is broken even when using it in iram, like on 5020 22.47.18 # amiconn: I'm sure we can find some ;) 22.48.26 # I tried it with my lcd-gray corelock (with the hit-lcd-only-if-necessary condition disabled, like in my first tests). It behaved just as if it wouldn't exist... 22.48.28 # On 3g/e200 somehow I could get away with using SPC but mpegplayer would fail almost instantly. It's more broken on PP5020 than anything else. 22.49.25 Quit DA_Desktop (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.49.28 # of course utimately it's either broken or not and not in degrees :) 22.49.35 # I guess that the dram controller has some kind of pipeline, so operations that appear atomic from the core aren't atomic anymore when both cores are involved 22.50.11 # They seem to have fixed the issue for iram on pp5022+, but not for dram 22.50.37 # Still, UNCACHED_ADDR is useful for data other than such locks 22.50.38 # even the lock in set_cpu_frequency will eventually cause failure even when cop isn't involved (when playing mp3 for instance) 22.50.59 # The locks obviously need to reside in iram 22.51.26 # jhMikeS: did you see mcuelenare's question about interrupts? 22.51.31 # they're integrated into the various object structures 22.51.45 # Nico_P: no. I just got here. 22.52.04 # Then either the whole objects need to go into iram, or if they're large, have a pointer to the lock 22.52.47 # jhMikeS: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080405#11:35:44 22.52.57 Join krz [0] (n=irc_by@turbo.sml.by) 22.52.58 # queues are definitely the largest by far but that makes a mess for all targets 22.53.32 # You colud put the default for NOCACHE_BASE into the #else of the first #if block 22.54.07 # Well, the queues *are* in iram atm, correct? 22.54.44 # anything allocated with NOCACHE*_ATTR is atm 22.54.48 # Hmm, that means a plugin using both cores *and* queues is *required* to stop playback 22.55.23 Join DA_Desktop [0] (n=darkapos@216-53-82.231210.adsl.tele2.no) 22.55.35 # ...because it needs to use iram for the queues. Plugins using queues with single core don't need to, as well as plugins using both cores but no locks, iiuc 22.55.42 # yes, if the locks are allocated in plugin IRAM 22.56.00 # YOu're thinking about a lock pool in the core? 22.56.29 # possible but then every single object needs both init and delete functions without exception 22.57.24 # or do this the easy way and forget swp on pp targets alltogether. perhaps D2 is nicer. :) 22.57.55 # Well, D2 isn't dual-core, or did I miss something? 22.58.35 # it is. two arm 9 cores 22.58.43 # The nocache* patch for plugins is still useful though. I'll need it for the greylib and plugins which should not stop playback 22.59.40 # (jpeg, plasma, mandelbrot, fire) 22.59.49 # I haven't seen a measurable performance penalty in a real app to using SW_CORELOCK. There's about a 25% speed hit for it if executing scheduling code almost exclusively (test_queue.c). 23.00.38 # Right now those plugins aren't usable during playback on PP5002, because sound will stutter and animated content will slow down to a crawl 23.01.04 Quit AHDKLS () 23.01.12 # On PP502x it's a bit better but can still cause problems depending on the sound codec 23.01.40 # But with the greyscale isr on cop there's practically no slowdown (the spc codec will suffer though) 23.02.15 # jhMikeS: Hmm. Can't we use swp-based locks in the core, and sw corelocks in plugins? 23.02.20 # Is it being forced to always run on COP or can it be specified? 23.02.39 # It can be specified with no extra ifdefing in the plugin 23.02.52 # It's just a feature flag, which is ignored on single core targets 23.03.00 # GREY_ON_COP 23.03.35 # The neat thing is that now mpegplayer is working quite well even on PP5002 23.04.27 # (mpegplayer can already use it because it puts struct _grey_info into iram) 23.05.04 # amiconn: thread.c expects one or the other as well as the objects in kernel.c. it would be really messy to use different kinds depending on where it's allocated. 23.05.06 # Only occasional frame skips for fullscreen, no frameskips for widescreen, and smooth audio + fast buffering 23.07.33 # Are you going to commit that patch? 23.08.15 # jhMikeS: Regarding the feature flag - I'll make test_fps test both cases on dualcore greyscale targets 23.08.44 # I can commit it. It works for me. I didn't know if you wanted to check anything specific first. 23.09.22 # Hmm, I can try to use it for the greylib 23.10.04 # btw, do we really need three app.lds for PP targets? They really should just share the same one. 23.10.25 # Yes, the PP targets should be rearranged in the target tree 23.10.54 # I'd go for separate PP5002 and PP502x folders though 23.11.40 Quit darkapostrophe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.13.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.13.47 # what about target/arm/portal-player/[5002|502x]//. I'd also like to factor the target bits out of thread.c nicely. 23.14.03 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@ip565fbeaa.direct-adsl.nl) 23.14.13 # That's not the same amount of levels 23.14.40 # The tree requires 3 levels for the .h files 23.14.41 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.15.48 # SO I'd go for the same system that the gigabeat already uses: target/arm/pp5002/ipod-1g2g, target/arm/pp502x/sansa-e200 ... 23.15.53 # why is it it fixed to 3? 23.16.21 # it's just the way it was done 23.16.50 # as it works generically there must be some kind of system 23.16.57 Quit krz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.17.16 # It's how the include path is put together - 3 variables, defining the path from the most special (deepest) to the most generic level 23.17.57 # of course perhaps the t_-variables can contain slashes to build "pp/5002" etc 23.18.25 # Maybe, but then you can't put any .h files into pp/ 23.18.25 Quit Zarggg () 23.18.35 # exactly, so it won't be as intuitive either 23.19.54 # I don't see the need for the separate 'brand' level in this case, because brand and model are tied anyway, and the number of pp targets, especially when already split into pp5002 and pp502x, isn't *that* high 23.20.25 # And two pp50xx dirs instead of one pp dir with two subdirs aren't a problem either, imho 23.20.26 # * jhMikeS wondered about the relevancy of the brand level too 23.20.41 # So I think it's not worth it to make the system more complicated 23.21.37 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.163.196) 23.22.18 # It means that *a bit* of code needs to be either duplcated, or oddly placed (but less so than now) 23.22.49 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 23.22.55 # * amiconn is unzipping the nocache* build to his 2nd Gen 23.24.11 Part mcflow 23.24.13 Quit Jon-Kha (Remote closed the connection) 23.24.40 # or use some kind of xxx-common construct (to share a bunch of iriver stuff if needed) 23.29.58 # Hmm, the patch seems to work well 23.30.09 # fire.rock doesn't want to display anything though 23.30.33 # Doesn't crash, music continues, and I can quit with Select+Menu normally 23.36.08 # something overlooked in plugin.lds? 23.36.29 Join sneeze [0] (i=jplang@unix1.cc.ksu.edu) 23.36.38 # is anyone doing rockbox development on an asus eee pc? 23.36.44 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]") 23.37.53 # that should work just fine 23.38.20 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.38.47 # hmm. Installing a build on the mrobe takes quite a while. With no indication from rbutil -- not good. 23.38.54 # jhMikeS: At least I can't spot a problem. struct _grey_info ends up exactly where it should 23.39.01 # * amiconn compiles for mini G2 23.39.30 # bluebrother: Does the m:robe use a seagate microdrive like the small H10? 23.39.40 # * jhMikeS wonders what mcuelenaere was trying to do by mixing mutexes and interrupts 23.40.29 # amiconn: ST650211FX -- I think that's a seagate 23.41.30 # yeah 23.41.33 # Those drives are notoriously slow 23.41.50 # Exactly the same as in the H10 5GB and H10 pure 23.41.58 # jhMikeS: he wanted to make sure his ISR wasn't interrupted 23.42.25 # by itself, apparently 23.42.26 # jhMikeS: Something must be wrong - test_fps also doesn't show the overlay - but that one *does* use iram for sturct _grey_info 23.42.44 Quit bughunter2 ("Leaving.") 23.43.07 # I think we need to add a progress on build extraction. Requires changing the zip module though. 23.43.27 # * amiconn tries a full rebuild 23.44.32 # Nico_P: ISRs aren't interrupted (except by an FIQ interrupt) 23.48.03 # Can rb->ftruncate() in rockbox be used to enlarge a file ? 23.48.05 # amiconn: that sounds rather weird. any problem initializing the ncdata/ncbss sections? The bss init should get the ncbss section as well. 23.48.09 # jhMikeS: Weird. On mini G2 I get the same effect for fire (white lcd, but no crash/hang), but not for test_fps (working normally) 23.50.57 # The greylib only needs ncbss, and that is initialised dynamically 23.52.13 Quit petur ("*plop*") 23.52.24 # yes, the single bss clear should clear both bss and ncbss since they're together 23.53.47 # Does the plugin loader flush the cache?