--- Log for 26.04.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 24 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.02 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.01.59 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.04.46 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ALagny-154-1-59-150.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.05.06 # Does anyone have personal experience with the sound quality differences between the ipod's 3.5mm jack and it's line-out port? 00.05.58 # rephrase: If you do have that experience, is it worth getting an ipod line-out > 3.5 female adapter? 00.08.04 # Leperkawn: well, you are going to need an external amp if you are going to use the line out... 00.08.52 Quit dabujo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.09.37 # Is it required? 00.10.26 # well if you want to be able to hear the music at any kind of decent volume 00.10.45 # What exactly causes it to get so power hungry? 00.10.59 # eh? 00.11.08 # saywhat? 00.11.30 # Leperkawn: might want to expand on those pronouns.. 00.11.51 # Sorry 00.12.17 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.12.25 # I don't fully understand impedance and when amping is needed. What causes this setup to require an amp? 00.12.41 # The fact that the volume is locked at line level, for one. 00.13.26 # this isnt quite a rockbox topic, but to make this bried, you need an amp so you can adjust the volume...the entire point of a line out is to bypass the internal amp for a cleaner signal (usually) 00.13.33 # s/bried/brief 00.14.11 # scorche: Sorry, I didn't want to ask about this in -community 00.14.44 Quit knittl (Remote closed the connection) 00.15.47 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.16.00 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.16.45 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.18.07 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@rockbox/developer/barrywardell) 00.19.11 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Connection timed out) 00.24.40 Part BrianHV 00.25.26 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.31.29 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.32.00 Join knittl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.135.231) 00.33.18 Quit barrywardell () 00.33.25 Quit midgey () 00.34.56 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.35.16 Quit BigBambi_PC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.44.27 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 00.45.39 Join Music^Hound [0] (i=glamrock@mctnnbsa42w-142162104065.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net) 00.47.17 Quit borges|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.47.18 Join borges|afk__ [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c0ecc.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.47.23 Nick borges|afk__ is now known as borges|afk (n=bruges@brln-4d0c0ecc.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.52.10 Quit freqmod_n (Remote closed the connection) 00.52.15 Join webguest68 [0] (n=4ba18f20@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c302c38885f6044d) 00.53.00 # hello 00.53.13 # no one here huh 00.53.26 # ok well then byebye 00.53.33 # * gevaerts spots an impatient visitor 00.53.36 Quit webguest68 (Client Quit) 00.54.23 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 00.54.23 # heh too late :-P 00.54.25 Join ednos [0] (n=ednos@gray-337.res.umass.edu) 00.54.37 Quit DerDome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.54.48 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.01.00 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 01.01.11 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 01.01.29 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.01.33 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.03.30 # What is the likelihood of rockbox supporting Zune (ever)? 01.04.13 # pretty small I guess, but of course you never know 01.04.36 # ednos: Nobody's working on it, so odds are very, very, very slim. 01.04.39 # You might want to check out (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6848.0) 01.05.09 # ednos: Rockbox is running (in a very basic way, not fully working yet) on the Gigabeat S, which is similar hardware to the Zune. The problem with the Zune is that no-one has cracked the firmware encryption/protection, so we can't run third-party code on it. 01.05.20 # linuxstb, ah thanks 01.05.37 # So if I learn cryptography and embedded devices tonight... I could solve the problem? 01.06.02 Join borges|afk___ [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c0ecc.pool.mediaWays.net) 01.06.38 # If you're a fast learner, and if you're lucky... 01.06.45 # Right. 01.08.07 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3016.gwdg.de) 01.08.14 # Well, I'll get right on that. Thanks. 01.08.17 Quit ednos ("Alea iacta est.") 01.08.32 Quit knittl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.11.29 Quit borges|afk___ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.11.53 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=stephen@67.64.145.45) 01.13.24 Quit styleism () 01.16.00 Join PaulJam__ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3016.gwdg.de) 01.16.25 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 01.17.38 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-FORTY.MIT.EDU) 01.17.43 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.19.10 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.19.38 Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 01.22.11 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.22.18 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.22.40 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 01.22.42 Quit borges|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.22.51 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.24.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.27.09 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 01.27.20 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 01.27.34 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.28.23 Join Chronon [0] (i=vircuser@d23-104.uoregon.edu) 01.29.32 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@124-168-78-176.dyn.iinet.net.au) 01.36.11 Quit PaulJam_ (Connection timed out) 01.38.24 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 01.38.39 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 01.42.41 Join styleism [0] (n=styleism@87-194-104-214.bethere.co.uk) 01.43.03 Quit styleism (Client Quit) 01.43.40 Quit w1ll14m (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.48.47 Quit Chronon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.49.44 Quit DerPapst_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.52.50 # how do you display album art ? 01.54.35 # Music^Hound - use a wps that supports it, and make sure the albumart follows the guidelines that are documented on the website. check the wiki documentation. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/albumart?topic=AlbumArt 01.55.40 # thanx stripwax 01.55.52 # just found rockbox yesterday and loing it 01.55.57 # loving* 01.56.09 # great 01.56.34 # anything is better then the boring ipod look 01.57.03 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.57.44 # of course, rockbox is more than just how it looks 02.00.19 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.01.31 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.04.10 # rockbox is like linux... its all bout choice 02.04.47 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 02.07.04 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.11.12 Part Byron 02.12.26 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 02.12.58 Nick hd is now known as HellDragon (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 02.13.55 Quit gevaerts ("sleeping time") 02.15.33 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 02.22.27 Quit Adys (Client Quit) 02.23.01 Quit Leperkawn ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 02.23.33 Join Adys [0] (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) 02.25.34 Join Leperkawn [0] (n=chatzill@68-188-192-35.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 02.26.12 Quit Leperkawn (Client Quit) 02.26.34 Join Leperkawn [0] (n=chatzill@68-188-192-35.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 02.28.37 Join Peregrina [0] (n=chatzill@189.161.170.243) 02.29.56 # hi there, i keep geting io errors, is this common? 02.30.06 # (gigabeat f40) 02.31.44 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.32.19 # thanks 02.32.21 Quit Peregrina (Client Quit) 02.32.59 Quit Leperkawn ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 02.35.59 Join Leperkawn [0] (n=chatzill@68-188-192-35.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 02.39.53 Quit Leperkawn (Client Quit) 02.46.19 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 02.46.26 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.48.56 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.50.42 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@189.164.198.12) 02.55.36 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC") 02.57.46 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 03.00.23 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.00.30 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.01.54 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.08.02 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.08.08 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.09.27 Join nickwebcoukok [0] (n=chatzill@host86-159-130-51.range86-159.btcentralplus.com) 03.10.05 # how on earth do you restart the ipod after the initial db scan? I cant find anything in the manual, and the select and menu combo dosent seem to workl :( 03.10.37 # long press play/pause to reboot the ipod in rockbox 03.11.21 # ahh! cool! thanks! :D 03.11.47 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.11.54 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.14.23 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.14.29 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.16.07 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 03.16.38 Quit DerPapst_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.17.52 Part pixelma 03.19.39 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@75-165-234-225.slkc.qwest.net) 03.23.16 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.23.23 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.24.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.26.06 Join Leperkawn [0] (n=chatzill@68-188-192-35.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 03.26.21 Quit Leperkawn (Client Quit) 03.28.21 Nick Hillshum is now known as Hillshum_ (n=chatzill@75-165-234-225.slkc.qwest.net) 03.31.04 Join webguest47 [0] (n=18222c97@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e29ec520eb52eb6b) 03.31.14 Nick Hillshum_ is now known as Hillshum (n=chatzill@75-165-234-225.slkc.qwest.net) 03.31.43 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.33.08 Quit webguest47 (Client Quit) 03.34.26 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.34.27 Join toffe82_ [0] (n=chatzill@189.164.198.12) 03.34.36 Nick toffe82_ is now known as toffe82 (n=chatzill@189.164.198.12) 03.34.50 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.34.57 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.37.13 # what does everyone reccomend to manage thier rockbox under linux? 03.37.30 # cp 03.38.19 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.38.25 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.41.17 Quit PaulJam__ (".") 03.42.27 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.42.34 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.47.06 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.47.55 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.48.02 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.49.42 # whats the best way to learn C? 03.51.44 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.51.50 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.54.06 # anyone? 03.54.23 # Hillshum: wikibooks maybe, read source code, write some 03.54.41 # Hillshum: i started by fixing compilation issues 03.54.42 # heh 03.55.23 # hmm... i started reading C++ for Dummies don't remember much tho 03.57.03 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.57.10 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.58.17 # how close is C++ to C? 04.01.48 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.04.12 # depends 04.04.41 # its basically C with some extensions and OOP 04.05.02 # OOP? 04.05.04 # but the similarity in actual code can be anywhere from marginal to profound 04.05.20 # object-oriented programming... the main point of C++ 04.10.22 # all the links at svn.rockbox.org are too white to read 04.11.24 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.11.26 Join toffe82_ [0] (n=chatzill@189.164.198.12) 04.11.34 Nick toffe82_ is now known as toffe82 (n=chatzill@189.164.198.12) 04.12.15 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-144-17.home1.cgocable.net) 04.12.50 Quit tedrock (Client Quit) 04.16.12 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.16.49 Quit DerPapst_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.19.03 Quit nickwebcoukok (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.19.25 Join nickwebcoukok [0] (n=chatzill@host86-159-130-51.range86-159.btcentralplus.com) 04.28.07 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c122-107-143-237.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au) 04.29.34 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.31.55 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C5DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.32.09 # if an ipod 5.5 completley freezes, and long play does nothing (even flicking the hold button does nothing to the screen) - how to i reset it? 04.32.24 Quit aliask (Client Quit) 04.35.17 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/aliask) 04.37.50 # nickwebcoukok: Hold menu and select for ~15 seconds 04.38.15 Join zajacattack [0] (n=426171c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a03a4dd9b68d155e) 04.39.40 Quit aliask (Client Quit) 04.40.07 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c122-107-143-237.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au) 04.43.21 Quit nickwebcoukok ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0b5/2008041514]") 04.44.02 Join Davidz [0] (i=David@60.166.103.8) 04.46.32 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-934e374023a2535b) 04.46.39 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.50.32 Quit Davidz () 04.55.42 Quit leox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.13.55 Quit DerPapst_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.16.06 Join leox [0] (n=leox@165-162-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) 05.24.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.27.32 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=user@wl198036.wright.edu) 05.29.00 # Hey guys 05.29.53 # boo! 05.31.43 # its been idle lattely 05.33.44 # I see 05.43.50 Join TheBashar [0] (n=User@adsl-75-27-189-107.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) 05.45.11 # Sometime over the last month of periodically updating my sansa c200, it lost hw detection of the fm radio. I don't remember seeing commits related to the radio. Any idea when the change might have happened? 05.47.43 # Oops, meant to post the question on the dev channel. 05.51.04 Join TheWarden [0] (n=thewarde@69-11-127-180.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 05.54.35 Part toffe82 06.01.34 # Hi. I have an iPod 80g (new) which is I believe a 5.5 generation as it was bought just about a month before the iPod Classic came out. Is it possible to use RockBox? 06.01.48 # yep 06.02.16 # http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo64mb/rockbox.zip 06.02.20 # and can I do rockbox without it affecting what I have on it now? 06.02.26 # yup 06.02.34 # no way... really... oh hot damn 06.03.22 # so I use the iPod Video on you are say? Anything I need to know ? 06.03.54 # the hold swich changes the firmware from apple trash to RB 06.04.29 Quit inakihjlg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.04.39 # this is the manual http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-build.html 06.04.49 Join mnakifaec [0] (i=0@86.122.116.44) 06.05.01 # install: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002 06.06.50 # okay ty, I suppose I should in theory make a backup of my iPod first right? 06.07.44 # yeah i guess 06.07.53 # you guess lol ? 06.08.12 # I just have like major amount of stuff on there that's all 06.08.17 # ipods are hard to brick tho, id just make sure i have my tunes etc. 06.08.30 # yeah 06.09.35 # make sure you have the 80gb RB 06.11.14 # ok 06.11.16 # ty 06.12.15 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.20.31 # is there plans to support iPod Classic 80g? 06.21.01 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14871.0 06.21.16 # no plans are ever made 06.22.25 # apple encrypted the firmware and otherwise protected it from 3rd party firmware 06.25.20 # oh that is sick 06.25.47 # oranges are better 06.25.49 # geez Apple needs to quit being so anal about these things argh 06.26.05 # * TheWarden is happy then he has a 5.5 generation then :) 06.26.33 # * Hillshum is not happy he has an e200 v2 instead of v1 06.27.19 Quit TaylorKillian (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.32.27 # * Hillshum goes to bed 06.32.37 Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 06.42.54 Quit alienbiker99 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 06.50.22 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 06.51.04 Join chrfme [0] (n=46d0948a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b6b41470e08aa1f1) 06.54.23 Join J-23 [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 06.56.25 # my sandisk e200 showed up as f and g drives in my computer. f worked so i tried installing rockbox, but it said to change my configuration. can someone help me install please? 06.56.58 Join Jessica429 [0] (n=Jessica@adsl-70-239-94-158.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) 06.59.43 # does one suggest I do manual install or automatic ? 06.59.46 Quit Jessica429 (Client Quit) 06.59.47 Quit chrfme ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.00.13 Join Jessica246 [0] (n=Jessica@adsl-70-239-94-158.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) 07.00.44 # Hiya folks. anyone know anything about an Archos Gmini 120 07.00.46 # ? 07.00.59 # specs and such? opinions? 07.01.24 # TheWarden: try automatic first 07.02.15 # Hello. 07.02.16 # scorche: okay, mm let me re-read then I'm confused how to do that 07.03.07 # Jessica246: well, the Gmini port doesnt work atm....it is way out of date 07.03.22 # see: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GminiPort 07.03.28 # mmmm I need to use the rbuilt 1.05 for automatic install mmm 07.04.10 # I'm trying to build Rockbox with http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4755 patch for Sansa c240 simulator, but make returns http://pastebin.com/d699b2830 07.04.12 # hmmm... I've got a jukebox recorder 20. someone wants to trade me a gmini 120 for it, and i cant even find specs on the 120. 07.04.27 # I've downloaded newest Rockbox sources from SVN. 07.04.30 # Jessica246: well, this isnt quite the place for that 07.04.54 # yeah, i know... but i figured that if anyone knows the kit, you all would. 07.05.15 # you folks know -everything-! 07.05.27 # *grins* 07.08.02 # mm do I have to uncompress or have the rockbox.zip file with the rbuilt ? 07.08.26 # TheWarden: you should be able to do it all through rbutil 07.08.58 # scorche: Okay,, well damn I wish my iPod was already charged so I could go do this.. now 07.12.22 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 07.14.49 Quit aliask (Remote closed the connection) 07.14.51 # * TheWarden crosses his fingers 07.16.06 Quit Jessica246 ("http://irc.netsplit.de/") 07.19.07 # um I have errors on TTS & Encoder do I have to have those apps downloaded ? 07.23.37 Quit zajacattack ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 07.24.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.27.14 Quit TheWarden ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 07.35.10 Quit scorche|sh (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.38.05 Part TheBashar 07.39.26 # How can I fix http://pastebin.com/d699b2830 ? 07.39.56 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-71-203-172-58.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 07.44.45 Join scorche|sh [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 07.49.33 Quit RoC_MasterMind (Remote closed the connection) 07.58.38 Join knittl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.135.41) 08.13.00 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/aliask) 08.13.47 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 08.15.51 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 08.17.43 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.19.05 # J-23 what are you trying to do ? 08.19.20 # applying a patch or / 08.19.42 # I'm trying to compile Rockbox with MediaWiki Viewer patch 08.20.10 # (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4755) 08.21.29 # hm 08.21.41 # are you using a current svn tree? 08.22.13 # oh, ok, let me see 08.22.34 # Yes, I am. 08.28.14 # It's a fundamental bug in that plugin code. It won't compile for sims. 08.28.41 # But I've tried to compile it for real player and it returned a lot of errors. 08.29.50 # The plugin redefines read() - but that is already redefined for sims as sim_read() 08.30.32 # hmm, now it builded without errors 08.30.52 # (for real player, Normal build, target - Sansa c240) 08.30.55 # Hmm, that's actually enclosed into #ifndef SIMULATOR 08.32.25 # Still that code looks rather dirty to me 08.34.25 # amiconn what specifically looks dirty to you? 08.35.12 # (not that i've had a look at the code...) 08.39.44 # (1) It includes a .c file from another .c file, and both contain actual code. (2) It redefines read() and write() for targets, but not for sims. That *probably* means that on sims the plugin accesses the file system directly, circumventing the plugin api 08.40.48 # these 2 looks like easily correctable... 08.40.56 # * J-23 tries to read English Wikibooks from his player 08.42.06 # It works :) 08.43.56 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-174-251.nyc.res.rr.com) 08.50.58 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC262.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.52.37 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@rockbox/developer/midgey) 09.09.33 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.15.59 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 09.21.40 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d98f-CM0012c90feb0c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 09.24.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.31.39 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645e8d1-CM0012c9ab589a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 09.43.17 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.44.08 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF77BC.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.47.21 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.48.17 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d959-CM0012c9a9ae36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 09.49.16 Quit BigBambi ("Please insert girder") 09.49.41 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 09.52.05 Join pixelma_ [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.52.32 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 09.52.32 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.53.59 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@ip565fbeaa.direct-adsl.nl) 09.55.41 Quit midgey () 09.57.02 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 10.00.53 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.06.16 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 10.15.15 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645e8d1-CM0012c9ab589a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 10.20.35 Quit csc` ("If you can't do anything smart, do somethin right ~Serenity") 10.21.32 Join Llorea1 [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-69-154-187-90.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 10.21.46 Quit Llorean (Nick collision from services.) 10.21.48 Nick Llorea1 is now known as Llorean (n=DarkkOne@adsl-69-154-187-90.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 10.22.34 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB37D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.25.12 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B161946.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.27.36 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.27.44 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 10.29.56 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.Globcom.Net) 10.30.54 Join Mathiasdm2 [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 10.31.29 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.39.30 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.39.49 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d95b-CM0011aea49e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 10.44.36 Part linuxstb ("Leaving") 10.48.24 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.49.18 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d969-CM000f9fa62b04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 10.53.50 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 10.55.17 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.55.54 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 11.01.15 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.01.27 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645e8d1-CM0012c9ab589a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 11.04.01 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 11.09.53 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.11.35 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE0013464a03d5-CM00111ae6c2c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 11.12.00 # 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?Who 12.43.14 Join keenox [0] (n=592f7353@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4c49154e29cc40a2) 12.43.34 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B033033.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.43.50 # How can I undo patch? 12.44.05 # patch -R 12.44.48 # can somebody help me with tcctool? 12.45.51 # Whats the problem keenox? 12.46.02 Join freqmod_n [0] (n=freqmod@m052h.studby.ntnu.no) 12.52.13 Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.53.14 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.53.30 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d959-CM0012c9a9ae36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 13.00.08 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 13.01.43 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.02.27 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-238-240.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.06.47 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d969-CM000f9fa62b04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 13.07.34 # ali_as 13.07.40 # i want to add x20 to the list 13.08.03 # and i'd like to know what is the third hex number 13.08.59 Quit Mathiasdm2 ("Yuuw!") 13.12.43 # Memory fading, is that the sdram config register setting? 13.12.57 # If so do you know the x20 sdram layout? 13.14.34 Part Davidz 13.16.26 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 13.16.53 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 13.17.23 # Ok, checked and it is. You need to know how much sdram is in the player and how wide the bus is. 13.18.25 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.18.39 # If these values and the cpu match an existing player, you can use those values. 13.19.00 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d98f-CM0012c90feb0c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 13.19.04 # hmm.... i got my hand on some telechips firmware writer and some technical pdf's 13.19.14 # If not you need to plug them into the telechips software to find out the value. 13.19.54 # the problem is that i flashed my x20 13.20.01 # with logik dax firmware 13.20.02 # What details do you have on the x20 player? 13.20.09 # and it's bricked now 13.22.17 # If tcctool applies then you have a good chance of unbricking. 13.22.40 # You may need 2 versions of your old firmware. 13.22.51 # One to boot and one to burn. 13.23.32 # i have the original firmware 13.23.53 # could we please talk on prv? 13.24.05 # i pasted the details there 13.24.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.24.31 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 13.24.37 # That will have failed becuase you arn't registered on the network. 13.25.01 # If you do have a private convesation and any interesting finds come up in your conversation, please post them here too, as this channel is logged and searchable 13.25.03 # i want to add iriver x20 to the list because tcctool doesn't support it 13.25.35 # oh 13.25.54 # I'll log in, one mo. 13.26.00 Nick ali_as_ is now known as ali_as (n=as@ambix.plus.com) 13.26.06 # and how can i register? i'm registered on the forums 13.26.34 # main Chip make: TeleChip model: TCC8200 other#: OOXX-YNR-PR NO57BKM 0652 uses: the brains i guess. Other Chip make: Coremagic 0076 modle: CMS4A32LAH-75EE other#: 0647A KOREA uses: from what i can gather from its position to the processor and other googled info its 128 megs of quick access memory Memory Chip make: Samsung 652 modle: K9HBG08U1M other#: PCB0 FEK4941A uses: the ma 13.29.13 # ali_as can you see what i'm writing on prv? 13.29.29 # No, did you get my 'Hi'? 13.29.54 # yes i did 13.30.07 # Did you try replying? 13.30.24 # when i logged in i used the username and p/w from the forums 13.30.24 Quit w1ll14m (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.30.33 Join w1ll14m [0] (n=william@dhcp-077-249-150-171.chello.nl) 13.30.39 # yes i wrote three lines 13.30.44 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 13.30.48 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.30.50 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 13.30.56 # Hmm, that ought to have worked, but didn't. 13.31.49 # so... i have a bricked x20 with logik dax firmware. i managed to put it in usb mode 13.32.06 # Ok, and you installed the tcctool driver? 13.32.24 # and installed the tcctool driver 13.32.32 # yes 13.32.40 # Have you tried the settings for the other players? 13.32.48 # just fyi, if you can put it into usb mode it's not bricked.. bricked really means ' you can do nothing with it, ever again ' 13.33.08 # Bricked generally means hosed the flash. 13.33.12 # i tried the logik dax and the cowon d2 but sais device not found or something like that 13.33.23 # '/without invasive surgery' 13.33.26 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF77BC.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.34.04 # for me it's bricked right now... it looks dead :(( and i'm really not into low-level programming 13.35.21 # D2 has a different core chip. What value are you using for the first? 13.35.22 # the good thing is that windows sees it in usb mode... but i can't write any firmware with fwdn or tcctool 13.35.56 # usb mode, means you did the debug reset? 13.36.01 # so it's not bricked, just need to find a way to recover it. iriver apparently has a recovery program 13.36.46 # the x20 uses tcc8200 vid=140e pid=b051 13.37.12 # Or usb mode meaning upload files? 13.37.24 # would this help? http://www.iriver.com/support/down_view.asp?searchProductIdx=81&searchCategoryIdx=&searchString=&page=1&idx=736&tmpSearchProductIdx=&tmpSearchCategoryIdx=&tmpSearchString= 13.37.41 # i didn't find any button combination 13.37.43 # ignore me if you've already tried that 13.38.11 # but it has 6 pins.... 2 "USB" 2 "NAND" 2"NAND/USB" 13.38.31 # currently i have desoldered the nand pins 13.38.45 # In a word, huh? 13.38.57 # and windows recognizes it with the tcc firmware download driver 13.39.18 # Okaay. 13.39.37 # let me show you a pic with the pins 13.39.48 # Ok. 13.40.13 # http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5844/dsc08037pcbgb4.jpg 13.40.27 # they are in the red marker 13.41.17 # Ok, they are the bootstrap settings for the cpu. 13.41.36 # Or so I assume. 13.41.59 # Hang on, I thought you were just trying to unbrick it, but you're desoldering pins on the board? 13.42.02 # Have you tried the software stripwax has posted? 13.42.06 # stripwax.. i have the fw download tool from iriver... it just copies the firmware on the mp3 player.... right now it doesn't see my player connected 13.42.19 # i thought you said windows showed the player as connected 13.42.33 # The player has bootstrap options on the board. 13.42.51 # not in the normal way... i thing it's the "manufacturing usb mode" 13.43.35 # ali-as... you can see the NAND pins soldered there 13.43.49 # now they are desoldered 13.44.21 # i noticed that this way windows sees the device, but not in the normal way, as a drive 13.44.24 # I can, youve checked these with the chip datasheet I assume> 13.44.35 # Yes, usb debug mode. 13.45.07 # i didn't really find a chip datasheet 13.46.11 # i found some schematics of the demo board... that i found with the telechips firmware app on the forums 13.46.49 # i thing they were obtained somewhat illegally from the telechips site or by an auth person 13.47.51 # I'm just looking at those now. 13.48.15 # Not sure there was an 8200 datasheet in that post now I come to look at what I downloaded. 13.48.20 # you found them? 13.48.50 # if something is missing i can give it to you... i downloaded them all 13.49.54 # TCC8200A specification r0.pdf 13.50.18 # Should be part of the list, it's in the pile I downloaded. 13.50.20 # there is more software than hardware documentation in those files 13.50.40 # And it's an ARM9, niiice. 13.51.13 # yes... it's arm946es 13.52.00 # Does the telechips flashing utility support the support/recognise the 8200? 13.52.28 # (note, linuxstb suggests not actually trying to flash with it). 13.53.16 # But if it will spit out sdram config numbers on being given sdram size/bus size that is really helpful. 13.53.21 # yes 13.53.42 # (This is how I derived the numbers for the K3). 13.54.05 # hmm... i'll give you some screenshots with the telechips software and my player 13.54.22 # Ok. 13.54.40 # let me switch to win xp 32bit as the driver doesn't work on x64 13.55.01 # brb 5 min 13.55.20 # Ok. 13.55.21 Quit keenox ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.57.33 Join keenox [0] (n=592f7353@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0cc03b3c1cca4803) 13.58.05 Join keenox2 [0] (n=592f7353@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-43a4a8926f4fd1dc) 13.58.27 # back.. seems that the nick stayed logged in 13.58.35 # Now in stereo. 13.59.07 # * keenox (n=592f7353@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4c49154e29cc40a2) Quit ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.59.07 # * keenox (n=592f7353@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0cc03b3c1cca4803) has joined #rockbox 13.59.07 # * keenox2 (n=592f7353@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-43a4a8926f4fd1dc) has joined #rockbox 13.59.37 # :D 13.59.52 # hmm ... weird... seems that now it recognizes it 14.00.11 # tcctool or the flashing utility? 14.01.49 # the flashing utility... this means that the tcctool really wrote something 14.02.02 # tcctool doesn't write anything. 14.02.17 # hmm? then what does it do? 14.02.23 # But you do need the drivers installed for either to work. 14.02.30 Quit keenox (Client Quit) 14.02.45 # http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4825/screeenqt4.jpg 14.02.47 # tcctool allows you to boot a firmware to ram, you can then use this for flashing the player. 14.03.06 # the screenshoot 14.03.23 # last night it showed failed... 14.03.40 # and the target fields were empty 14.04.23 # Prior to installing the tcctool driver? 14.04.46 # If you click settings you might see the sdram config numbers. 14.04.57 # I don't think I used this version of the software. 14.05.09 # Try checking the scrollback too. 14.05.48 # Using tcctool is safer as your old firmware has a better understanding of flashing your board than the telechips software does. 14.06.02 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d959-CM0012c9a9ae36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 14.06.23 # hmm.. i now used it and flashed with the original fw 14.06.29 Quit knittl ("-- visit http://myftphp.sf.net") 14.06.31 # it said all ok 14.06.48 # Is this the iriver version, or one off the forums? 14.06.50 # should i solder the nand pins back and see if it works? 14.06.55 # You may as well. 14.07.10 # no... i used the iriver version 14.07.24 # Ahh, then this has a much better chance. 14.07.47 # Did you need to change the sdram setting to 128M? 14.08.20 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 14.08.25 # We'll be slightly dissapointed if you've fixed it this easily, as tcctool won't get another config line ;) 14.09.30 # if i succeed i'll do my best ... anyways.. i started doing this because i wanted to start porting rockbox to x20 14.09.44 # so.. should i solder the nand pins back? 14.09.47 # Then you will get to know tcctool very well. 14.10.03 # linuxstb wrote it so people could develop without writing to the flash. 14.10.14 # Yes. 14.10.24 # If you think it worked, go for it. 14.10.39 # is the pid in the screen shot the last of the "magic numbers" 14.11.09 # No, it's the first. 14.11.31 # Identifying the TCC chip itself. 14.12.01 # The last is the sdram config and depends on the player, how much ram it has and how it is connected. 14.12.03 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 14.12.03 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@124-168-78-176.dyn.iinet.net.au) 14.12.13 Join Miles [0] (i=[U2FsdGV@65.98.26.250) 14.13.08 # hmmm.. i knew the pid of the tcc chip... i didn't knew what the last number was 14.13.14 # *didn't know 14.13.38 # darn it... it doesn't work 14.13.48 # dead as a brick :) 14.14.00 # Did you change the sdram size prior to flashing? 14.14.20 # The flash writer ought to have come with specific instructions. 14.14.50 # Since the debug usb is essentially one way the flash writer may have no idea if the flash burn has worked or not. 14.15.15 # back in 15 min 14.15.23 # urgent job 14.15.24 # can i dual boot my ipod? 14.15.35 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet07.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 14.15.37 # withe the original os 14.15.38 # ali_as will you still be here? 14.15.44 Quit Horscht ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 14.15.51 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.15.59 # Miles: yes. The manual has details 14.16.01 # Miles: Yes, you can. You should read the manual for more details 14.16.11 # I'll be here. 14.16.19 # ok 14.16.52 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 14.17.00 # oka 14.21.35 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 14.26.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 14.27.13 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 14.27.29 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d95b-CM0011aea49e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 14.28.11 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet07.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 14.28.42 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B033033.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.34.51 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23CC39.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.36.37 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF77BC.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.38.14 Quit hannesd (No route to host) 14.39.19 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.39.38 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d95b-CM0011aea49e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 14.40.02 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23CC39.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.40.48 Join DerPapstr__ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23F84D.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.42.12 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host13-217-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.43.00 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 14.43.03 Quit w1ll14m (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.43.07 Nick DerPapstr__ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der_Paps@p5B23F84D.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.45.41 Quit freqmod_n (Remote closed the connection) 14.45.46 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 14.47.55 # i'm back 14.48.31 # ali_as... how can i find out what's my player's sdram config? 14.48.56 # I've been trying ti use fwdm v3, and failing. 14.49.20 # on what player? 14.49.25 # K3. 14.49.37 # a... samsung? 14.49.40 # Just to see if it will spit out the numbers you need. 14.49.41 # Yes. 14.49.57 # I think there are driver problems. 14.50.04 # did you put it in usb recovery mode? 14.50.08 # Yes. 14.50.24 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.50.25 # you may need to restart your system 14.50.40 # Maybe, but it may be a problem with old drivers. 14.50.47 # i think that may be another cause of the program not working 14.50.58 # what os are you using? 14.51.03 # XP. 14.51.11 # 32 bit? 14.51.32 # Yes, tcctool has worked fine on this before, so I know that side of it is ok. 14.52.16 # If all else fails, one way to get the sdram config is always to look the address in the datasheet and then dissasemble the firmware. 14.52.25 # oh... you need to uninstall the tcctool driver and install the one they provided 14.52.28 # Should be pretty early on in the bootloader. 14.52.52 # Nods, I tried that but XP reloaded the old one. 14.53.00 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 14.53.14 # weird... 14.53.51 # If you plan to port rockbox you may need to do some code dissasembly anyway. 14.54.11 # I'm not familier with any x20 rockbox port attempts. 14.54.32 # Or with rockbox generally as it happens. 14.54.34 Quit DerPapst_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.55.18 # i think that is because there haven't been any serious ones... and i don't have the needed knowledge yet 14.55.30 # maybe when i'll get to college 14.56.43 # I suspect some time with tcctool, a firmware and IDA would work wonders. You know any ARM assembler? 14.57.39 # no... i've looked for one myself... i've seen that gcc can compile for arm targets 14.58.01 # in the telechips docs i've seen codewarrior or something like that 14.58.04 # I get the impression digging out the taret specific code is the hardest first step. If you can locate information on the display used in your device, thats very helpful. I drew blanks with the K3 so my plans to port rockbox are on hold. 14.58.44 # I mean't do you know any ARM assembly language. :) 14.58.47 # hmm.. i'm now trying to unbrick mine... so there can be any hope 14.58.49 # keenox2: the tools aren't the problem, gcc will work just fine. 14.59.53 # no ... i don't know any asm.. not even x86.. only c++, visual basic and pascal 15.00.49 # That may be a problem then, I've programmed assembler for a long time and it's C I have a big problem with. 15.01.07 # Different ways of thinking. 15.01.31 # * gevaerts tries to imaging ali_as reading visual basic :) 15.01.36 # Moving on to your bricked x20 problem, where can I download a firmware and do you know if the bootloader is seperate? 15.02.00 # I hate VB a great deal, but not as much as prolog. 15.02.14 # Acorn BASIC I like. 15.02.14 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 15.02.23 # no... the fw comes in one piece 15.02.32 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 15.02.51 # If there is a bootloader in the box they may never give out a copy, just the fw. 15.03.07 # i can give you the latest... iriver drew this one back...don't know why .. it worked fine 15.03.26 # Sure, send then please and I'll have a quick look. 15.03.36 # No guarentees I'll make head or tail of it. 15.03.44 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.03.47 Quit pondlife (Client Quit) 15.04.00 # how may i send it to you? 15.04.18 # Email ok? I'll pm an address. 15.05.57 Join keenox [0] (n=592f7353@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-794bab6419f56230) 15.05.57 Quit keenox2 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.06.43 # Problems? 15.06.55 # ali_as... could you please repeat what you said after my question? i clicked back in my browser by mistake 15.07.14 # I did wonder :) 15.07.37 # how may i send the files to you? 15.08.13 # You should have an email address by PM. 15.08.59 # ok 15.09.25 # Or another method would be fine. IRC by browser is not exactly ideal. 15.09.57 # The SDRAM config register is at 0xF0000000. 15.09.59 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23F84D.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.10.13 # keenox: The forum logins are completely different to IRC 15.10.32 # If you want to register your nick on IRC you do it with (in this case) freenode 15.12.09 Join Amien [0] (n=5591d834@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a827594e0349a6da) 15.13.00 # i'v just updated rockbox (ipod video 5g) .. but rockbox hangs on : rockbox loaded .. any ideas? i both used copy/past as well as the installation tool 15.15.20 # do i need to update the bootloader too? 15.15.27 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 15.15.51 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.16.10 # Amien: how old was the previous installation ? 15.17.35 # 2006 15.17.56 # Then you will need a new bootloader, yes 15.18.30 Join DerPapstr__ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23D22B.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.18.49 # k ... works .. thanks 15.20.03 Quit Amien ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.20.38 # bigbambi ... can you please be more precise? is freenode an irc command or an user? 15.20.42 # keenox, ok, have the firmware, looking. 15.20.51 # keenox: freenode is the irc network 15.21.03 # keenox: freenode is the network you are connected to 15.21.38 # oh ... i forgot to ask... the fw has a header... a starting arm instruction, version, 2 crcs and then the fw itself 15.21.38 # Try private messaging "nickserv REGISTER putapasshere" 15.22.05 # Thats the standard telechips header. 15.22.36 # There is also the option to jump to a more complex checksum routine. 15.22.48 # when i use fwdn should i use the whole file or only the fw itself? 15.23.13 Quit Horscht ("IRC is just multiplayer notepad") 15.23.15 # I can't answer that, linuxstb recommended not using fwdn. 15.23.29 # are you talking now with him? 15.23.33 # No. 15.24.21 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.24.22 # I visited here trying to work out a method to rescue bricked K3's and those that samsung's new firmwares had rendered ununpgradable. 15.24.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.24.33 # you said that tcctool doesn't write anything... but my firmware that is stored in the nand is f&*ked and i need to rewrite it 15.24.34 # A month or two ago. 15.25.10 # Right, the method for the K3 after tcctool was made to work with the K3 was... 15.25.13 # so i need to use fwdn, don't i? 15.25.18 # No. 15.25.42 # i'm listening (watching) 15.26.06 # Boot the K3 using a very old firmware. 15.26.29 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 15.26.39 # Copy the firmware files you want to update too to the player. 15.26.53 # And do the update again booting from the very old firmware. 15.27.19 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eee91f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-17ee6dd806d79a4c) 15.27.33 # It doesn't know its booting from ram and not flash, so it updates the firmware nomatter what it's previous state was. 15.27.46 # Everything else behaves normally. 15.28.33 # oh... that would be a way 15.28.49 # but ... i don't know the x20's sdram config 15.28.50 # There is a minor trick, in that to flash you need to pull the usb cable very quickly just after tcctool boots it. 15.29.00 # and i can't compile tcctool 15.29.01 # Hopefully the firmware will tell us that. 15.29.24 # I didn't either, I patched tcctool with a hex editor. 15.29.39 # It was just easier at the time. 15.29.46 # hmm... i've tried to find that magic number in the logik dax' fw, but no luck 15.31.41 # I didn't have to do it this way, as I had a schematic for the K3. 15.32.09 Join borges|afk_ [0] (n=bruges@e178032170.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.32.21 Quit DerPapst_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.32.23 # LDR PC, =0x20000060 15.32.42 # First bit of relavent data, the ram is at 0x20000000 15.33.11 Quit Horscht ("IRC is just multiplayer notepad") 15.33.25 # do you have an arm disassembler? 15.34.51 # you said earlier something about pming nickserv.. i can't find it 15.35.17 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.35.39 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 15.35.56 # keenox: google for freenode and read their help pages 15.35.56 Quit keenox ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.37.03 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.37.17 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 15.39.45 # I think using a web client may be too taxing for all concerned. 15.40.13 Join keenox [0] (i=keenox@89.47.115.83) 15.40.26 # back 15.40.41 # sorry for being late... i installed good ol' mirc 15.41.14 # keenox: google for freenode and read their help pages 15.41.30 # In response to your previous question 15.41.47 # in mirc type, 15.42.03 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE0013464a03d5-CM00111ae6c2c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 15.42.03 # /msg nickserv REGISTER pickapass 15.42.13 # Where pickapass needs to be the password. 15.42.17 # * DerPapstr__ hates mirc for being comercial 15.42.30 Nick DerPapstr__ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der_Paps@p5B23D22B.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.42.36 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 15.42.38 # * gevaerts notices that DerPapst is finally awake for real :) 15.42.41 # I don't think an email address is required, but you can ad one optionally. 15.43.00 # lots of internet problems latetly :-/ 15.43.02 # isn't nickserv a nick? 15.43.14 # that's why it is almost imposible to irc. 15.43.16 # keenox: it is, but it's not on this channel 15.43.17 # It's a nick sat on by services. 15.43.55 # yes... i succeeded 15.44.07 # keenox: now everytime you connect you type /msg nickserv identify 15.44.20 # ok... thanks very mush 15.44.24 # *much 15.44.27 # /ns identify password for the short version :-P 15.44.50 Join Drak [0] (n=Nick@user-142h7jl.cable.mindspring.com) 15.44.55 # that would only work if /ns is aliased in your IRC client 15.44.58 # keenox: then you will be able to send and receive pm's from everyone, or reclaim your nick if someone has stolen it. /msg nickserv help for details 15.45.21 # ok 15.45.46 # ali_as... do you have an arm disassembler? 15.45.53 # Horscht: i'm pretty sure it is in mirc :-P 15.46.08 # I'm using IDA. 15.46.21 # works for arm? 15.46.23 # Is there any way I can enable shuffling music, without my playlist being shuffled out of order? I've got 200 songs, finding any specific one when they're random is a pain. 15.46.41 # Works for damn neer everything, but obscenely expensive. 15.46.54 # Drak: save it as a new playlist and suffle this 15.47.01 # keenox - isn't there a gnu dissassembler? 15.47.22 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.47.26 # or use tag cache, Drak 15.47.34 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC262.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.47.46 # stripwax, i don't know 15.48.06 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B161946.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.48.08 # keenox: there is an arm disassembler in the rockbox sources 15.48.43 # i've seen that but i have dev-c++ and i can't (don't know how to compile it) 15.48.48 # i get many errors 15.48.53 # Hm. Never heard of tag cache. 15.49.28 # database 15.49.31 # keenox - try using one of the supported dev environments (vmware image or cygwin) 15.49.35 # Drak: it's know as the "database" these days. Horscht is apparently a bit old-fashionned 15.49.39 # i'll try 15.49.40 # Drak, tagcache is the internal name for rockboxs database 15.49.41 # Ahh. 15.50.29 # i always thought tag cache is the "common" name of it 15.50.50 # as I am definately not old fashioned, gevaerts. I started using rockbox in january :p 15.50.53 # Yeah, I've considered it, but the database seems like it'll only play ALL my music or none of it. I'd like to use playlists, so I could separate my music into things like techno or rock and stuff. 15.51.23 # there's the "genre" view in the database 15.51.31 # Horscht: it was in the beginning, but it was renamed to "database" at least in the GUI and docs, (in code its still tagchache) 15.51.34 # True. 15.51.42 # you could simply enuqueue all techno song 15.52.26 # I myself have all my music enqueued shuffled, and when I want to listen to a specific song, I go to the database and add it as next song 15.52.51 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.53.11 Quit borges|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.56.19 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.57.07 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 15.58.26 Nick borges|afk_ is now known as borges (n=bruges@e178032170.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.02.02 Quit Drak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.06.06 Quit keenox (Excess Flood) 16.06.12 Join keenox [0] (i=keenox@89.47.115.83) 16.07.57 Quit SUSaiyan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.10.08 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 16.12.07 Join borges_ [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c3d63.pool.mediaWays.net) 16.13.01 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0b5/2008041514]") 16.23.53 Quit borges_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]") 16.24.49 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d969-CM000f9fa62b04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 16.28.32 Quit borges (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.32.25 Join Jessica841 [0] (n=Jessica@adsl-70-239-94-158.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) 16.32.32 Join borges [0] (n=bruges@e178032170.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.32.36 Quit borges (Client Quit) 16.33.30 # heya folks, i was on last night and someone told me their was a problem with the port to an archos gmini. do any of you have the link re the problem? Is it gonna be fixed? 16.33.36 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 16.34.45 # There is no rockbox port to the gmini 16.35.00 # I believe there is another project that branched off old Rockbox code 16.35.48 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.35.49 # err... umm... yeah. last night I was given a link on this channel that talked about it. unfortunately, I lost the link. :( 16.35.52 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d98f-CM0012c90feb0c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 16.36.11 # Jessica841, lucky for you, the channel is logged, so you could go back and find it :) 16.36.23 # ArchOpen does gmini stuff I believe 16.36.25 # oh. cool 16.36.36 # where is the log? 16.37.00 # rockbox.org/irc has all the logs 16.37.39 # kat, is there a reason why no port is being worked on for the gmini? 16.38.03 # Because no interested owners are doing it 16.38.17 # that makes sense 16.38.23 # Ports are done by owners, there is no rockbox 'team' that works on a port 16.39.06 # But as I say, I believe ArchOpen does something for the gmini - if you wanted to port Rockbox to them, that would seem a good place to start for infor on hardware, drivers etc 16.39.43 # I own a jukebox recorder 20 and someone wants to trade me a gmini for it. I've got RB on the jukebox and i like it a hella more than the archos code which is crap. 16.40.10 # Understandable :) 16.40.11 # Then I would suggest not to trade 16.41.09 Part pixelma 16.41.13 # the thing is, I take lots of photos as well. I guess the gmini can store my images while I'm on vacation. this would keep me from having to lug my laptop everywhere. 16.41.35 # * BigBambi points out there are different models of gmini 16.41.49 # That are very different hardware wise 16.42.12 # gmini120 16.42.36 # looking for a good codec to use with a ipod nano 16.43.20 # for now its between ogg and aac 16.43.33 # Music^Hound: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CodecPerformanceComparison may be helpful 16.43.43 # thanx gevaerts 16.45.25 # mpc is still used ?? 16.45.55 # people can use what they want, I think 'moos' uses mpc. 16.45.58 # yes 16.46.32 # hmmm wonder if the ps3 will ever support mpc ? 16.46.34 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.47.01 # Music^Hound: That is off topic for here 16.47.30 # sorry BigBambi 16.47.38 # No problems :) 16.50.41 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 16.51.22 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnd004.ugent.be) 16.51.40 # hmmm using dbpoweramp and nero m4a encoder rockbox won't play the file 16.54.53 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 16.56.14 # blah, i hate that db update that happens every time i boot my sansa 16.58.08 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 16.58.31 Part mcuelenaere 16.58.33 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 16.59.16 # hmmmm won't work either if I change it to a mp4 format 17.00.05 # maybe just still with mpc or ogg 17.00.07 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host13-217-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 17.00.13 # still= stick 17.00.17 # Tuplanolla: there are some hints on the forums on how to avoid or minimize this 17.01.42 Join borges [0] (n=bruges@e178032170.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.02.15 # course could use wma 17.02.28 # man too many formats of choice lol 17.03.36 Quit borges (Client Quit) 17.03.52 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 17.04.50 # Music^Hound: does it actually matter ? 17.05.42 # naww as long as rockbox plays it I suppose not 17.06.11 Join b_ [0] (n=b@dsl-133-9.aei.ca) 17.06.55 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 17.07.04 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 17.08.29 Quit homielowe () 17.10.28 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.12.08 Quit hannesd (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.12.44 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@66.183.89.40) 17.13.16 Quit homielowe (Client Quit) 17.17.08 # ew, windows says that can't unplug the device, how to eject it the right way? (i'm using finnish xp, dunno what it is in english :>) 17.19.40 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.20.24 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.20.25 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 17.22.00 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 17.24.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.25.21 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 17.26.02 Join borges [0] (n=bruges@e178032170.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.26.58 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=SUSaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 17.26.58 Quit keenox () 17.31.31 # Tuplanolla, retry 17.32.30 # Windows plain out refuses to "remove a device" if it's currently in use by a program. 17.32.57 Quit b_ ("Konversation terminated!") 17.35.45 # Horscht: tried it about ten times 17.35.46 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE0013464a03d5-CM00111ae6c2c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 17.36.25 # hm... your antivirus software might be accessing it... 17.45.24 Join joshin [0] (n=joshin@VDSL-130-13-240-229.PHNX.QWEST.NET) 17.47.55 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.48.15 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE0013464a03d5-CM00111ae6c2c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 17.49.34 Part joshin ("brb") 17.50.18 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@127-013-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 17.55.59 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 17.58.03 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 17.59.47 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180072069.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.00.18 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.00.26 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d95b-CM0011aea49e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 18.02.31 Join SilkTribe [0] (n=4e5e7a37@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3ccc0139190a56ef) 18.02.42 # hey guys.... 18.03.01 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@dslb-088-075-067-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.03.24 # can anybody help me out with something? 18.03.33 # only if you ask 18.03.45 # well...i guess i could do that.... 18.04.04 # so...i just installed rockbox on my sansa e280 18.04.08 # and it works just fine... 18.04.32 # so i moved some directories over there and start the player and the music is all there... 18.04.34 # but 18.04.45 # its no more archived as directories.... 18.04.49 # and it sucks 18.04.59 # SilkTribe: Could you not use the enter key for punctuation? 18.04.59 # cause now it's all mixed up... 18.05.17 # sorry, i dont understand 18.05.31 # punctuation? 18.05.32 # Try to write full sentences on a line 18.05.34 # don't 18.05.35 # write 18.05.36 # like 18.05.38 # this 18.05.43 # oh, yes sure. 18.05.45 # sorry 18.05.52 # Anyway, how are you copying the music? 18.05.54 Join Rincewind [0] (i=QpTqi1A7@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 18.06.27 # And how are you accessing it through Rockbox? 18.06.33 # well, i just moved the directories i created into the root directory 18.06.41 # copy and paste? 18.06.56 # yes, i think so 18.07.07 # i might have dragged and dropped them too 18.07.14 # OK 18.07.23 # And how are you accessing the music in Rockbox? 18.07.49 # im not sure what you mean... 18.08.03 # What are you doing in Rockbox? 18.08.07 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.08.41 # well what im trying is to open a directory i moved there and play all its files in random, but the directory name dont exist anymore... 18.08.49 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 18.08.58 # And how are you trying to get to that directory? 18.09.06 Join mrkiko [0] (n=pv@adsl-ull-85-33.47-151.net24.it) 18.09.07 # like i have one directory called jukebox because its like a few unsorted mps 18.09.29 # i tried both Database and File 18.09.35 # Filelist 18.09.35 # File is the one you want 18.09.49 # What operating system are you using? 18.09.51 # bt they're not there... 18.09.56 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d969-CM000f9fa62b04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 18.10.00 # Computer? 18.10.05 # yes 18.10.05 # Win XP Pro SP2 18.10.26 # So if your DAP was F:\ you copied the directory so you had f:\jukebox 18.10.39 # and in F:\jukebox\song.mp3 for example 18.10.47 # guess so 18.10.53 # Have you or not? 18.11.09 # It kind of matters where they are when we are trying to find them... 18.11.18 # I changed a few times moving the stuff right into the rootdirectory of rockbox 18.11.33 # but i believe i moved thm there first 18.11.40 # Could you check? 18.11.55 Quit Rincewind ("bye") 18.12.04 # sure, was about to...sorry if i keep asking but im german and some things sound odd at first 18.12.55 # no problem 18.13.31 # should i be in MTP or MSC Mode? 18.13.35 # MSC 18.13.52 # okay, hang on 18.15.44 # okay... 18.16.07 # they're not there at all cause i transferred them in MTP Mode i guess? 18.16.10 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.globcom.net) 18.16.26 # Yes 18.16.41 # MTP doesn't preserve directory structure when you copy them over 18.17.23 Join chrfme [0] (n=4bc7f887@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-16095ad9d981446f) 18.17.27 # wow...and i was gettin really freaked about it cause i hate it when there's no directory navigation...lol 18.18.02 # If you want to just use good old directories (as I do - personally I dislike MTP) then you need to use UMS/MSC mode, nt MTP 18.18.02 Quit chrfme (Client Quit) 18.18.51 # i used to have rockbox on my oldschool archos jukebox rec and there was no such thing as MTP as far as i remember and i loooved the directory thing.... 18.19.02 # No, that's right 18.19.36 # thanks man... 18.19.43 # you really made my day! 18.19.53 # Rockbox USB mode is being worked on for the targets with no hardware USB (later iPods, H10, Sansas) after which you won't have to use the Original Firmware for transferring, and Rockbox will do MSC/UMS natively 18.19.59 # SilkTribe: No problems :) 18.20.08 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.20.22 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 18.21.09 # this MTP thing is kinda redundant isnt it? i mean about 30% of my mps aren't even id3 tagged and i couldnt even tell which song it was besides listening to it... 18.21.58 # Well some people like MTP for the synching software aspects and other stuff 18.22.26 # why doesnt it support directory structure? 18.22.44 # is it technically impossible? 18.23.02 # I don't know much about it to be honest 18.23.20 # yeah...there's no need to eventually...;) 18.23.36 # SilkTribe, do not know myself too but i hate mtp mode too 18.24.39 # i didnt even know that it disenables directory structure and all... 18.25.04 # i just thought that it wouldnt be possible to keep directories anymore and i was really sick about it... 18.25.26 # go Rockbox! 18.25.47 # like spending 4 hours of browsing mp3s to create directories and all and never finding them after moving...lol 18.26.07 # god bless rb and irc support....=) 18.26.20 # :) 18.26.21 # sounds like amrine language...lol 18.26.23 # copy 18.26.29 # marine 18.26.35 # ? 18.26.47 # aha, I undertand 18.26.53 # no offense... 18.26.58 # none taken 18.27.07 # excellent soldier...;) 18.27.13 # (I agree) but we are getting off topic here 18.28.47 # yeah...well you don't have to keep carpeting me...;) Ill just be happy and off I go...thanks again! Have a nice wekend.... 18.29.09 # you too 18.30.01 Quit SilkTribe ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.33.35 Quit ali_as ("reboot") 18.34.23 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549675E3.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.38.16 # gevaerts, Is it intentional that my iPod's hard drive spins the entire time it is in Rockbox USB mode? 18.38.59 # soap: does it ? That would explain the battery discharging... No, it's not intentional 18.39.33 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@dslb-088-075-067-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.39.40 # it does as of Monday. 18.39.47 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 18.39.48 # I'll build anew and test again. 18.39.50 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.39.57 # * gevaerts checks the svn log 18.40.59 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d95b-CM0011aea49e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 18.41.33 # I also experienced what _appeared_ to be resets on my 5th gen when emptying the trash. I'm not sure yet how to properly test for resets, but will read up and get back to you on that. 18.42.04 # One way is to enable logf for usb-drv-arc.c 18.42.16 Quit Bagder (Success) 18.44.25 Quit Adys (Connection reset by peer) 18.45.12 Join Adys [0] (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) 18.49.31 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.51.31 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.59.21 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d95b-CM0011aea49e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.02.17 Join ali_as [0] (n=as@ambix.plus.com) 19.04.48 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtb217.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 19.07.09 # hmmm I can get itunes encoded m4a's to work in rockbox but not nero encoded 19.07.45 # maybe nero does evil things to then such as drm stuff 19.09.41 # apparently there are some known issues with m4a files, see for example FS#8664 19.10.06 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.10.19 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.10.34 # 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does logf requires something more than setting it in ../tools/configure? 22.17.58 # You need to enable it in each file that you want output from (#define LOGF_ENABLE) 22.18.15 # ah ok 22.18.43 # before #include "logf.h" I presume? 22.18.49 # Yes 22.20.04 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.21.42 # does the logf debug menu supports scrolling and if so, how do I scroll? :) 22.22.09 # It doesn't do scrolling unfortunately, no 22.22.41 # Do you have working disk writing ? 22.22.45 # yes 22.22.48 # logfdump? 22.22.50 # yes 22.23.03 # how can I enable this from in the beginning of the OS? 22.23.15 # or is the buffer automatically flush to HDD if it's full? 22.23.19 # flushed* 22.23.27 Join jumpatrain [0] (i=juma@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xB9002659) 22.23.38 # You run it at the moment you want to dump, not before 22.24.00 # hmm, so it could be that some of the messages were already discarded at that moment? 22.24.06 # can rockbox playback the musepack beta? 22.24.38 # 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Is there somewhere i can watch the status ? 23.18.09 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 23.18.55 Part J-23 23.19.18 Join zajacattack [0] (n=4261759e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c8f4e5a40b84cfdf) 23.20.42 # herrwaldo: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PortalPlayerUsb 23.22.29 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.22.41 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.23.03 # thanx ... and again .. you're doing a GREAT job 23.24.10 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 23.24.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.30.55 # * ender` yawns 23.32.51 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eee91f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7c5b04371669d056) 23.34.08 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.35.23 Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.37.45 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 23.38.20 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 23.38.51 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-220-26.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 23.40.54 Quit bughunter2 ("Leaving.") 23.43.47 Quit zajacattack ("CGI:IRC") 23.44.12 Quit simonrvn (Remote closed the connection) 23.47.27 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 23.48.43 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.50.09 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645e8d1-CM0012c9ab589a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)