--- Log for 03.05.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 hours and 26 minutes ago 00.00.56 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m179.net81-66-123.noos.fr) 00.03.24 Join MTee [0] (n=MT@41.233.133.230) 00.04.36 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 00.04.40 Quit XavierGr (Client Quit) 00.05.23 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.05.41 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.05.58 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.07.03 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.09.25 Quit freqmod_n (Remote closed the connection) 00.20.02 Join billy1ear [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-240-208-97.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 00.21.29 Quit bertrik ("Ex-Chat") 00.49.25 Quit gevaerts ("I'll find bricks tomorrow") 00.49.59 Quit homielowe () 00.52.15 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 00.52.25 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@66.183.89.40) 00.53.48 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 00.57.48 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.58.55 Quit scorche (Connection timed out) 01.00.32 Quit homielowe () 01.00.37 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.00.46 Join scorche [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 01.09.56 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 01.19.49 Join Synergy6 [0] (n=Synergy6@0-1b-24-4c-ae-79.hb.esol.dur.ac.uk) 01.30.42 Part toffe82 01.34.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.34.58 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 01.38.46 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.40.46 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.45.30 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet14.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 01.50.00 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.50.45 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 01.53.05 Quit kkurbjun ("Leaving.") 01.53.11 Join hd [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 01.53.46 Quit MTee (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.54.01 Nick hd is now known as HellDragon (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 01.56.37 Quit barrywardell () 01.57.19 Part pixelma 01.59.12 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m179.net81-66-123.noos.fr) 02.12.45 Quit n1s () 02.32.57 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.34.07 Join bepe86 [0] (n=Bepe@213.151.130.162) 02.45.49 Part mirak ("Ex-Chat") 02.47.49 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet14.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 02.48.05 Quit Zarggg () 03.14.49 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 03.18.02 Part bepe86 ("Forlater kanalen") 03.18.08 Join bepe86 [0] (n=Bepe@213.151.130.162) 03.25.53 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 03.25.59 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.26.08 Quit ender (" If God had intended us to go around naked, He would have made us that way.") 03.30.56 Join Kornfan71 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-24-210-150-61.woh.res.rr.com) 03.34.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.35.53 Quit simonrvn (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.35.53 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.35.53 Quit krazykit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.35.53 Quit TMM (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.36.10 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.36.10 NJoin simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 03.36.10 NJoin TMM [0] (n=hp@c514753fe.cable.wanadoo.nl) 03.36.10 NJoin krazykit [0] (n=kkit@140.141.29.54) 03.37.03 # Are there any plans to make Rockbox's MPEG player compatible with MPEG-4 files? 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04.48.48 # I have 3 bricked views already... 04.51.47 # MarkJaques, the e200tool will not work 04.56.03 # i had a view that the force format caused it to stay in manufacturing mode 04.57.55 # that's what happened to mine. 05.04.27 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF690F.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.06.12 Join saratoga [0] (n=41becb3b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f2f3a6ecdb1e28b1) 05.12.43 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.16.00 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 05.17.09 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 05.21.15 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 05.34.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.37.15 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.37.53 Join zajacattack [0] (n=42617d5a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2e31dc201d545470) 05.50.03 Join billy1ear [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-240-208-97.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 05.50.26 Quit billy1ear (Client Quit) 05.53.29 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.01.43 Quit XavierGr () 06.03.39 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 06.03.55 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.10.16 Quit Zarggg () 06.12.20 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 06.12.35 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.13.32 Quit MarkJaques (Remote closed the connection) 06.20.14 Quit scorche (Nick collision from services.) 06.20.40 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 06.20.55 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.21.15 Join scorche [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 06.22.45 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 06.30.59 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 06.31.14 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.42.25 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 06.42.40 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.52.56 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 06.53.11 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.53.36 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 06.53.47 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-43-44.A166.cust.bahnhof.se) 07.04.54 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 07.05.09 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 07.07.06 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@190-023-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 07.11.29 Quit zajacattack ("CGI:IRC") 07.12.20 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 07.12.35 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 07.12.45 Quit jhulst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.22.06 Quit wpyh ("Leaving.") 07.24.06 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 07.24.26 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.33.51 Join BlackChaos [0] (i=BlackCha@ool-182cdaac.dyn.optonline.net) 07.34.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.38.52 Join bertrik_ [0] (n=bertrik@190-023-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 07.39.04 Join Synergy66 [0] (n=Synergy6@0-1b-24-4c-ae-79.hb.esol.dur.ac.uk) 07.39.13 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 07.39.24 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 07.39.42 Quit Synergy6 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.41.35 # the gui_splash implementation prototype and the header file prototype are not in sync 07.42.20 # the gui_splash implementation uses a const *unsigned* char *fmt, while the header file uses const *char* *fmt 07.43.27 Join jwyeo2 [0] (n=kvirc@S010600e0291359c5.gv.shawcable.net) 07.44.59 Quit nicktastique (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.48.57 Quit jwyeo2 ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 07.49.43 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 07.49.54 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 07.54.13 Quit bertrik (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.57.27 Join webguest72 [0] (n=7d49b808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d7099c9a3895d3c1) 07.58.05 Quit TMM (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.59.15 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@c514753fe.cable.wanadoo.nl) 07.59.29 Quit webguest72 (Client Quit) 08.00.28 Nick bertrik_ is now known as bertrik (n=bertrik@190-023-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 08.07.06 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCEDC6.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.15.57 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 08.16.03 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 08.21.35 Join nicktastic [0] (n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic) 08.24.35 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.27.02 Part toffe82 08.29.25 Join Lollipop [0] (n=89ba5c7e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e29cc0b33242e0cc) 08.31.59 # hi all 08.32.23 # on my gigabeat f, bass and treble settings dont work 08.33.14 # Anyone else have this problem? 08.33.27 # nope 08.33.45 # * Mouser_X doesn't use those settings. 08.33.49 # try updating to the latest stable release? 08.33.52 # (In other words, I have no idea.) 08.33.56 # i just did 08.34.11 # don't use them? 08.34.11 # haha 08.34.24 # lol, but its there! 08.34.26 # works fine for me, not sure why it wouldn't work for you 08.34.45 # you could try various archived releases i suppose to see if they work 08.35.07 # I'm at 17273 and that one works 08.35.20 # the latest daily build didn't work 08.35.32 # nor did compiling my own build 08.36.19 # 2008-05-02 05:27 r17304: Working ROLO for the Gigabeat F/X 08.36.34 # that's from the changelog, looks like they were working on the gigabeat 08.36.43 # could've introduced a bug 08.37.07 # at 17274, they did something with the audio 08.38.17 Quit XavierGr () 08.38.35 # hmm i see that 08.38.40 # specifically to the bass 08.39.01 Quit BlackChaos ("Leaving") 08.40.07 # bass and treble settings 08.40.11 # EQ doesn't seem to be affected 08.41.11 # :/ 08.41.27 # It looks like finding a new HDD for my Gigabeat S will be expensive... 08.41.37 # At least, for anything exceeding 100 GB. 08.42.29 Quit Lollipop ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.43.58 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 08.45.07 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 08.52.16 Nick miepchen^schlaf_ is now known as miepchen^schlaf (n=miepchen@p54BF690F.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.54.10 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 08.54.14 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 09.09.57 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 09.10.08 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 09.25.29 Join NewUser [0] (n=4e32ee1a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7d56948e9533ec64) 09.25.32 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.25.34 # hello 09.25.47 # hello 09.25.48 # NewUser, hello 09.26.01 # i'm from germany, so sorry for my english 09.26.15 # i've got only one question 09.26.56 # * Mouser_X has many many many questions, but 99% of them are not Rockbox related. Thus, they remain unasked. 09.26.57 # what is your question 09.27.37 # i have an ipod nano, with the newest rockbox buit. and i buyied new headphones yesterday. now i want to know, how to get more bass. 09.27.54 # what must i do? 09.28.07 # Magic. Or you could try reading the manual. 09.28.08 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB2F60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.28.20 # One of those 2 methods is likely to help. 09.28.58 # ok. thank you. 09.29.02 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 09.29.14 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 09.29.59 # NewUser: Try this - http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-buildch6.html#x9-1000006 09.29.59 Quit NewUser (Client Quit) 09.30.05 # Missed... 09.31.46 # haha 09.31.49 # solid advice there 09.32.05 # personally the manual didn't help, i had to rely on black magic 09.34.49 # oh, you found something missing or an error in the manual? 09.34.50 # Heh. 09.35.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.35.40 # Me? No. He asked about bass. I found a section that had the word "bass" in it, so I assumed it was the right one, and pasted a link to it here. 09.35.55 # hmm, the build seems to be hanging :( 09.36.01 # * Mouser_X noticed. 09.36.25 # Nice job breaking it bertrik. 09.36.36 # * bertrik bows 09.36.42 # It made shoes for orphans. 09.36.48 # Nice job breaking it, hero. 09.36.56 # It's better than I could have done. I don't even have commit access. 09.38.13 # actually all of the targets do have a new binary, it seems it's just the build table 09.38.25 # I was wondering about that. 09.38.47 # So, the shoes are made, but they didn't tell anyone? 09.39.44 # Somebody should write a Portal game plugin 09.39.58 # It seems fitting, right 09.47.13 # o shi - 09.47.20 # portal on daps? 09.49.38 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-215-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.50.29 Quit Synergy66 ("Adios") 10.11.27 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@66.183.89.40) 10.27.45 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 10.27.55 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 10.42.00 Quit amiconn (" boot boot boot....") 10.42.08 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 10.47.13 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 10.47.23 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 10.48.46 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=742a3f33@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4615d53e6d224d97) 10.48.50 # hello 10.49.22 # long time no see 10.49.40 # anyone? 10.49.59 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.50.07 # hello 10.51.53 # Hi 10.54.30 # yep 10.54.43 # i have one question 10.55.25 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A62B2.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.56.16 # * bertrik gazes into crystal ball and guesses that it's about bass 10.57.14 Join Domonoky [0] (n=domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 10.58.40 # how much size can read in text viewer? 10.58.59 # The text viewer has no file size limit 10.59.13 # (except the fat32 limit, which is 2GB) 10.59.16 # ah, really? 10.59.20 # yes 10.59.26 # good 10.59.37 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 10.59.58 # It will load the text in chunks if it doesn't fit at once 11.00.12 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-220-26.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 11.00.18 # Bagder: ping 11.00.53 # ok, thanks 11.00.56 # bye 11.01.06 Quit Jungti1234 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.04.07 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 11.04.42 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 11.06.25 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 11.07.17 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 11.17.47 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.17.50 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 11.20.27 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 11.33.10 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 11.35.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.37.45 # yay, build table works again 11.39.23 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 11.39.25 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 11.50.48 # bertrik: and... gives you a bit of yellow... ;) 11.51.18 # should 've waited a few seconds more :) 11.52.00 # I made some things a little more strict, but the yellow fix is being built now 11.52.13 # -but 11.52.51 # amiconn: yes? 11.53.14 # * gevaerts votes to just compile with -Wnone -Ewarn :) 11.53.20 # Bagder: Wanted to point out the hanging build, which is fixed now 11.53.31 # ah 11.53.43 # I'm curious what happened this time though 11.53.51 # looks like it auto-killed itself 11.53.52 # The auto restart didn't work... 11.55.19 Join ido_sh [0] (n=ido_sh@bzq-79-181-235-82.red.bezeqint.net) 11.56.06 # * linuxstb wonders why Sansa put a backup battery for the RTC in the m200, but then doesn't display the date/time in the OF... 11.56.08 # 17308-17310 finished building but did not show up in the build table. 17311 didn't get built at all, with 17312 things seemed normal again 11.56.25 # s/Sansa/Sandisk/... 11.56.51 # linuxstb: don't complain, just use it :) 11.56.53 # linuxstb: reference design told them to do it like that :P 11.57.32 # * gevaerts wonders if some drm schemes might need a working RTC 11.57.38 # bertrik: Your yellow fix should give a bit of green delta for the affected targets 11.57.53 # Although I wonder why ipod nano doesn't support lcd flip 11.58.08 # linuxstb: are you sure that there is no "RTC mode" to be enter by having the hold switch on during power up and hold button X, Y and Z? 11.58.14 # *entered 11.58.15 # It uses HD66789R, so the controller command is known 11.58.47 # Ipod color is a problem though, as it can either have HD66789R or an unknown one 11.59.04 # H10 5/6GB will hopefully soon be able to flip the display 11.59.24 # * amiconn has too many incomplete code snippets laying around :( 11.59.25 # gevaerts: Yes, I think WMA DRM requires it - it must be set via MTP... 12.00.04 # amiconn: the green is nice, but wasn't really my intention :) 12.00.14 # bertrik: don't admit that ! 12.00.21 # * linuxstb should attach it to a windows PC and see if the clock gets set. 12.00.57 # oh, MTP has some kind of mechanism of setting the RTC? 12.01.06 # I would assume so, as part of the DRM. 12.01.38 # * bertrik feels like the fixer of non-essential things this week 12.01.46 # AFAIK WMA DRM has a time-lock feature 12.02.02 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 12.02.07 # * gevaerts bashes himself on the head for using too many acronyms in a single sentence 12.02.15 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 12.02.38 # gevaerts: Oh, right, the "after 1 month it expires" thing. 12.02.46 # For the rental services. 12.03.37 # yes. I wonder how clock-tamper-resistant that is 12.05.20 # I guess one could guess based on whether any OFs let you *actually* change the RTC, or if they just let you change an offset the OF uses and leave the RTC under windows' control. 12.07.50 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 12.07.50 # Yes, but the windows clock is under _my_ control 12.09.09 # That being said, the Gigabeat supports WMA DRM, and you can reset its clock very easily. 12.09.37 # * gevaerts stops discussing drm. It probably is off-topic :) 12.11.52 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-256-1-77-73.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.15.40 Part ido_sh 12.19.03 Quit homielowe () 12.23.21 Quit Domonoky ("Leaving.") 12.32.23 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 12.33.18 Quit JdGordon|afk (Remote closed the connection) 12.35.24 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.163.196) 12.51.03 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 12.52.45 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 12.52.59 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 12.53.05 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.53.41 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 12.53.49 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 12.55.47 Quit merbanan (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 12.55.47 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 12.55.47 Quit AndyIL (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 12.55.47 Quit fyrestorm (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 12.55.47 Quit lostlogic (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 12.55.47 Quit FOAD (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 12.55.47 Quit crwl (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 12.55.47 Quit daywalker (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 12.57.02 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 12.57.02 NJoin FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 12.57.26 NJoin merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.163.196) 12.57.26 NJoin AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.208.235) 12.57.26 NJoin fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-171-53.nyc.res.rr.com) 12.57.26 NJoin lostlogic [50] (n=lostlogi@rockbox/developer/lostlogic) 12.57.26 NJoin crwl [0] (n=crawlie@a88-114-143-95.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 12.57.26 NJoin daywalker [0] (n=daywalke@ip-77-87-189-6.dnspower.de) 12.59.32 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eeeed7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-107db6026b97ab43) 12.59.48 # gevaerts: I would doubt WMP uses the Windows clock - I would expect it to get it via a secure connection to a server on the internet. 13.00.43 # That would mean it requires an internet connection to sync a player 13.01.08 # Doesn't it? 13.01.12 Quit OlivierBorowski (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.01.17 # It wouldn't surprise me... 13.01.34 # Or at least when first transferring DRM'd songs. 13.01.42 # But yes, we're getting off-topic... 13.11.59 Join webguest23 [0] (n=4b8a3dd0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2dd8b3542808bf21) 13.13.59 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m179.net81-66-123.noos.fr) 13.15.01 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-93-8.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.17.16 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0pre/2008050118]") 13.21.18 # has anyone tested out the quickscreen patch? 13.21.23 # Is the cabbiev2.wps line '%?C<|%s%ac%?It<%Ia|%Fn>>' correct ? 13.22.24 # looks like something is missing 13.22.29 # I read that as 'if there is a next track title, show the next track artist' 13.22.57 # he, a bit illogical to check for next track title abd then display next traxk artist 13.23.08 # *and 13.23.37 # and *track too 13.24.41 # this is what it's supposed to look like for the h300 port: %?C<%s%m|105|%al%?it<%it|%fn>|%s%ac%?it<%it|%fn>> 13.25.56 Part mirak ("Ex-Chat") 13.27.43 # is there another line with "%It" in it? I could imagine that it makes a little sense for the else case in which it should show the next track's file name to avoid doubling information when you have a "artist - title" naming scheme 13.28.59 # There is one other line with %It, but that one is for the album art case, so they don't overlap 13.29.06 # oh, yeah, that would have been the next track line. my bad. here it is: %?C<%s%m|105|%al%?It<%It|%Fn>|%s%ac%?It<%It|%Fn>> 13.29.48 # gevaerts: in what version did you find that odd line? 13.29.52 # Gigabeat seems to be a bit different. In case of album art it shows the next track info on a different line 13.30.10 # * gevaerts apologizes. he should have mentioned that he is looking at gigabeat f 13.30.28 # that could make sense.... 13.31.08 # does it work? 13.31.33 # I haven't tested with album art 13.31.42 # What is '%?C<|>' supposed to do ? 13.32.04 # define what happens if there is album art present 13.32.13 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 13.32.26 # check out how the gigabeat version is supposed to look like with and without album art http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DefaultWPS 13.32.43 # amiconn: pixelma: had a chance to play with the QS patch? 13.32.55 # ZincAlloy: I meant that literal line. Nothing else on it 13.33.22 # though it still strikes me odd that it would check for the next track's titel and then display the artist... 13.33.25 Join Synergy6 [0] (n=Synergy6@0-1b-24-4c-ae-79.hb.esol.dur.ac.uk) 13.34.05 Quit webguest23 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 13.34.23 # give me a second... I'm checking out the actual wps code 13.34.43 # JdGordon: I didn't and my Archos target doesn't have a quick screen 13.35.06 # gevaerts: that line seems unneeded 13.35.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.35.49 # I believe Nico_P created the last version of the gigabeat cabbiev2 13.36.14 # it's not unneeded... 13.36.35 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.36.37 # but somebody messed it up I think.. 13.36.40 # a long time ago 13.37.04 # I have a very old version on my computer and it has the same issue 13.38.51 # it should check for artist, not title 13.39.11 # * JdGordon gets the feeling there isnt much interest in the damn patch :p 13.40.17 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet20.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 13.41.12 # pixelma: I only tweaked it a bit 13.42.02 # second mistake in that line is %fn 13.42.52 # Nico_P: ok, didn't know exactly what you did and just thought you could know something 13.43.13 # it needs to be changed to %D2 13.46.05 # there's probably something wrong with the next line as well 13.46.41 # * gevaerts decides to let ZincAlloy work this all out 13.47.06 # what's the next line in your wps file, gevaerts? 13.48.50 # ZincAlloy: after the It?Ia thing ? '%?C<%s%ac%?Ia>%It|>' 13.50.04 # interesting... 13.50.25 # http://imagebin.ca/view/1rl1R-LD.html .... should the icons be closer to the text or is that good? 13.50.37 # for the side items i mean... 13.53.21 # * ZincAlloy is loading down a gigabeat sim now... 13.55.05 # JdGordon: I'd think it would look better if the text was closer to the icons... (not moving the icons though)... 13.56.10 # how much closer? 14.00.40 # that probably depends on the display, e.g. it doesn't look that bad on the remote display (especially since you also have a bit of space between used display area and the casing on greyscale/mono displays. The issue for me is more the H300 display where the text is almost sticking at the border (especially because in real it's a colour display where you have a black frame around the used area of the display) 14.01.03 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.02.32 # yeah, agreed.. but we dont want them pushed off too far from the edge 14.03.05 # does the flip display optoin on the F3 QS change live? 14.04.39 # don't know - but it changes live in the menu on my Ondio 14.04.51 # no 14.04.51 Join ibycus [0] (n=sam@resnet-187765.resnet.bris.ac.uk) 14.05.03 # confused it with inverted 14.05.22 # the flip doesn't change live 14.05.27 # hi all, i've got a problem with my ipod video 14.05.27 # ok, good 14.05.43 # easy to change it to be live now thouhg if its wanted 14.05.45 # since i upgraded to the latest firmware, the rbutil program won't recognise it's there 14.07.22 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 14.07.40 # it won't autodetect it, and if I choose mountpoint and type manually then try to do a complete installation it claims that "no ipods were found" 14.09.58 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-220-26.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 14.11.04 # should i try a manual installation, or is that a bad idea considering the automatic one failed? 14.11.30 # It's always worth trying of course, but I have no idea about what might be causing this 14.11.49 # it's weird because i've had rockbox on this ipod for ages before 14.12.00 # oh.... the sim comes with a broken theme? 14.12.09 # i restored with itunes and upgraded to the latest firmware, now it wont recognise it's there :-S 14.12.13 # now it's getting funky... 14.13.32 # the only other thing i changed was the name of the ipod but i highly doubt that;s affecting it, i thought it had to be due to the new firmware version 14.13.44 # as in, apple firmware, not rockbox 14.13.57 # ibycus: do you have administrator/root privileges ? 14.14.09 # well yes but I am not running rbutil as root 14.14.15 # that was never necessary before 14.14.21 # i can try it now 14.14.27 # to install a bootloader i think it is 14.14.55 # well i'll try it, but it's saying no ipods detected rather than installation failed due to insufficient privileges or anything like that 14.16.13 # aha, seems to be working 14.16.14 # thanks 14.16.26 # odd though, i never had to run it as root befotre 14.16.32 # pixelma: this look better? http://imagebin.ca/view/LHpFlU7F.html 14.17.05 # ibycus: it's only necessary when installing a bootloader because it needs raw disk access 14.17.06 # i get a themes not found error now but presumably thats completely unrelated 14.17.50 # ibycus: yes, that's because the ipod video themes were taken down because of bandwith issues iirc 14.18.08 # ok, i remember this happeneing before, will they be up again at some point? 14.18.34 # or is there a mirror? 14.18.49 # or a torrent even maybe? 14.19.39 # there's a new themes site in the pipe 14.19.47 Join wintermute23 [0] (n=41bd3699@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-70250dfb7d5785f0) 14.19.52 # * Bagder pokes scorche 14.20.03 # Hi there. 14.20.27 # How do I go about getting permission to edit the Wiki? 14.22.02 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.23.42 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.24.15 # any objections to comiting this as it is? (no customizability or top item)... we can tweak it if its needed, but I think its good... 14.24.21 # * JdGordon wants to get onto other things 14.25.49 # wintermute23: register in the wiki with your Real Name (tm), ask in here (and promise not to spam) 14.27.48 # wintermute23: And deliver unto us your first born as security 14.28.14 # You wouldn't want my first born. 14.28.21 # hehe :) 14.28.29 # OK, I have registered... 14.28.44 # JdGordon: yes looks better. Is every item in a viewport now? (unfortunately I have to go in a few minutes though, maybe it's not worth discussing now) 14.28.57 # As RossThompson 14.29.05 # JdGordon: I meant especically the side items 14.29.09 # pixelma: yes 14.29.23 # im gonna commit it now... the delta looks to be tiny :) 14.29.48 # wintermute23: OK done. No spamming now... :) 14.30.00 # Promise. :) 14.30.02 # Thanks. 14.30.41 # no problems 14.31.24 # JdGordon: then I could _imagine_ that it looks good if the left side item was right aligned in its viewport and vice versa (so they both have the same distance to the center). But I'm not sure and would need to actually see it. 14.32.31 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A62B2.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.32.34 # really have to leave now though, sorry 14.32.56 Part pixelma 14.36.23 # yeah, I thought about that as well... didnt want to change it too much from the old version though 14.40.01 # arg.. that deltas not what I expected... 14.40.56 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 14.42.42 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c211-28-93-8.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 14.43.08 # There. I added my new theme to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300 14.43.27 # waaa, I just saved about 100 bytes, now you add another 1000! :P 14.44.52 # the recorder .elf and .bin differenes were much smaller on my comp for some reason 14.45.40 # OK, thanks for the help. 14.45.43 # Bye. 14.46.28 Quit wintermute23 ("CGI:IRC") 14.47.25 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.48.31 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 14.55.31 Join bepe86 [0] (n=Bepe@213.151.130.162) 14.55.31 Quit Bepe_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.55.50 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.57.07 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 14.58.19 Quit ibycus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.58.20 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.05.38 Quit Horscht ("Snak 5.3.3 Unregistered copy. Evaluation period is over. Program will now quit. Thanks for using Snak.") 15.08.23 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eeeed7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-95b0d2ee527c467f) 15.09.28 # * ZincAlloy is really confused now, as cabbiev2 works great on the gigabeat f sim, but not on the gigabeat s 15.15.47 # ZincAlloy: In what way doesn't it work? 15.16.42 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.19.17 # linuxstb: as soon as it tries to load a cover art file (l|50|35|140|140|) it shows the old default theme 15.20.12 # whoops, that was supposed to read l|50|35|sc140|sc140| 15.20.54 # d'oh... no idea why irc keeps messing up the text.. 15.21.05 # s? 15.23.52 # that was supposed to be a Cl tag... 15.27.02 # Yes, but the wiki doesn't mention s as being a valid parameter, that I saw. 15.27.04 # What's it supposed to do? 15.28.19 Join rvvs89_ [0] (n=rvvs89@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au) 15.28.36 Join ibycus [0] (n=sam@resnet-187047.resnet.bris.ac.uk) 15.29.22 # oh, that doesn't matter actually. I think it's from an old version of the bmp resize patch. it can be used instead of the c tag for some reason. no issues with that. I've tried it without s and c 15.29.24 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.29.59 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.170.235) 15.30.05 # Are you 100% sure you've tried it without the s? Since it's an unsupported tag, you really shouldn't be asking about WPSes using it here. 15.30.26 # And, are you sure there aren't any other unsupported tags somewhere? 15.30.28 # yes. I'm 100% sure 15.30.42 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 15.30.52 # Why don't you paste the unworking .wps code to a pastebin then, for someone to look over? 15.31.24 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-93-8.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 15.33.41 # the theme's included with every build. it's cabbie v2 :) 15.33.59 # Are you saying the SVN version has these unsupported tags in it? That needs to be fixed... 15.34.01 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 15.34.19 # I wouldn't say they're unsupported. they're undocumented 15.34.23 Join freqmod_n [0] (n=freqmod@m052h.studby.ntnu.no) 15.35.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.35.17 # I think they have the same functionality as c 15.36.50 # * gevaerts apologises to ZincAlloy for getting him into this 15.37.31 # gevaerts: never mind :) 15.37.39 # fascinating stuff 15.38.00 # ZincAlloy: They're unsupported if they're not supposed to exist. 15.38.05 # It should reject them. 15.38.56 # in theory, yes :) 15.40.03 # Why were they in it in the first place? 15.40.57 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.41.03 Quit rvvs89 (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 15.41.04 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup") 15.41.48 # good question.. I think I took a look at how other people implemented album art.. 15.42.39 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.43.16 # I find the WPS doesn't work with or without album art present, anyway. 15.44.37 # yes. as soon as you include a Cl line in the .wps file, right? 15.45.13 # Well, I also noticed that any time I try to play back a song, the song seems to vanish off the disk. 15.46.13 # seems? 15.46.22 # Well, the song isn't there any more 15.46.36 # But i haven't done the investigation to figure out what actually happened. 15.46.48 # odd, really 15.47.05 # Yes. I would say don't worry about the WPS for the S until music playback works properly anyway 15.47.09 # It should be identical to the F anyway 15.47.19 Quit barrywardell () 15.47.30 # If you're going to spend time on something, fix the errors in its tag syntax elsewehre 15.48.06 # sure 15.50.12 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 15.55.33 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 15.58.04 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 15.58.04 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.00.58 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 16.05.16 Quit Ragnor (Nick collision from services.) 16.05.16 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.05.25 Join Ragnor [0] (n=Ragnor@dslb-084-060-140-075.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.08.15 Join austriancoder [0] (n=5448f3c8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-13c7ddf9595cd699) 16.08.48 Join bluebrother [0] (n=Dom@f053154208.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.09.28 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eeeed7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-91482f34bc28d743) 16.10.03 # gevaerts: I fixed the wps file 16.10.07 # ouch. Around 1000 bytes binsize increase only for converting the quickscreen to viewports? 16.10.29 # ZincAlloy: great :) 16.11.03 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 16.11.42 # gevaerts: how can I send it to you? 16.11.49 # dcc or email 16.11.58 # or pastebin 16.12.20 # email 16.13.54 # ok. Did you get my address 16.13.55 # ? 16.14.31 # sent 16.14.40 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.14.49 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 16.19.14 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.Globcom.Net) 16.20.08 Join dabujo_ [0] (i=xx@p4FDB2F60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.21.01 # * JdGordon thinks a bit of that delta can be reclaimed :) 16.21.01 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.21.20 Join davina^ [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 16.21.53 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 16.23.41 Quit dabujo (No route to host) 16.23.50 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.26.12 Quit ibycus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.26.32 # ZincAlloy: thanks. committed 16.27.16 # cool. looking forward to the bug reports :) 16.28.22 # * gevaerts even tested it in the sim before committing :) 16.28.49 # * ZincAlloy did that as well 16.28.55 Quit Synergy6 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.33.50 Quit austriancoder ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.36.12 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 16.36.21 Quit davina (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.36.22 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 16.37.50 Quit dabujo_ (No route to host) 16.37.58 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.41.24 Join styleism [0] (n=styleism@87-194-104-214.bethere.co.uk) 16.41.26 Quit styleism (Remote closed the connection) 16.41.47 Join styleism [0] (n=styleism@87-194-104-214.bethere.co.uk) 16.45.48 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host13-217-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 16.47.21 # mcuelenaere: CONFIG_USBOTG == USBOTG_ISP1583 isn't very explicit as ZVM-specific code 16.47.22 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.48.47 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup") 16.49.31 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.49.49 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 16.52.08 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 16.53.16 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 16.53.32 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 16.54.43 # Nico_P: I try to make the ISP1583 driver cross-platform 16.56.06 # hmm, I should have looked more closely 16.57.38 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@th245021.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn) 17.04.41 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.21.196) 17.12.11 Quit petur ("burps") 17.13.02 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.17.28 Quit freqmod_n (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.18.20 # \☺ 17.19.36 # * gevaerts looks at r17327 17.20.01 # we get signal! 17.21.11 # woohoo!! \o/ 17.21.16 # jhMikeS: congratulations :) 17.21.21 # * Nico_P tests 17.21.35 # \☺/ 17.22.34 # \o/ 17.23.05 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection) 17.23.20 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.21.196) 17.23.52 Join cas [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-224-210.net.novis.pt) 17.24.12 # * jhMikeS bows ... then faints from being up all night 17.24.15 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection) 17.24.17 # fuck me 17.24.19 # ooops 17.24.22 # wrong channel 17.24.30 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.21.196) 17.24.33 # I meant to say congrats in here, and that in the other :) 17.24.35 # hello :-) - I would like to know If there is an PC application with gui to install Rockbox... I searched on wiki page but I didn't found.... 17.24.47 # cas: It is called rbutil and linked from the manual 17.25.11 # BigBambi: thank you, I will look at that :-) 17.25.19 # what's the deal with cabbie using the default WPS? 17.25.20 Nick cas is now known as Casainho (n=chatzill@87-196-224-210.net.novis.pt) 17.26.06 # yeah, strange. probably a parse error 17.26.44 # Is there a checkwps for the S? 17.27.08 # * jhMikeS hasn't a clue about that 17.27.21 # linuxstb_: no idea 17.27.30 # * linuxstb_ answers his own question - yes. 17.28.26 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-75-12-169-182.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 17.29.30 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection) 17.29.45 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.21.196) 17.30.28 # Failed parsing on line 15 : unexpected conditional char after token 2: "Unknown token" 17.30.48 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.31.50 # ha, easy 17.35.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.38.33 # I did created a new TWiki page, the "RockboxPlayerPrototypeDevelopmentTools" - but I now think that it should be under "RockboxPlayerPrototype" page... how can/could I do/did that? 17.41.50 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB2F60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.42.22 Quit K4rP4D ("Leaving") 17.43.19 Join druidbartek [0] (n=Miranda@156.17.240.169) 17.46.28 # Casainho: I think you need a wiki admin such as Bagder to move/delete pages 17.46.58 # BigBambi: okok... I will wait to someone do that move... thanks. 17.47.05 # Casainho: Do you just want to set "RockboxPlayerPrototype" as the parent of your new page? 17.47.25 # linuxstb_: yes, is that... 17.47.38 # ah, OK 17.47.40 # Then just click on "more" at the bottom of "RockboxPlayerPrototypeDevelopmentTools" and change it 17.48.05 # I isunderstood what you wanted 17.48.11 # *misunderstood 17.48.20 # congrats jhMikeS! truly great work :) 17.48.40 # jhMikeS: Congratulations, did I miss the "gentlemen we have sound" mail? :) 17.49.52 # done! Thanks :-) :-) 17.51.19 Join saratoga [0] (n=41becb3b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-76afc1f517ecd787) 17.52.32 Quit faemir ("If debian was Arch then Ubuntu would own.") 17.53.49 # anyone here familar enough with the gigabeat S hardware to give me advice on fixing a broken screen? 17.54.33 # toffe82 would be your best bet :). 17.55.04 Join AceNik [0] (n=AceNik@117.98.20.242) 17.55.36 # The gigabeast is indeed the loudest target rockbox has (at least it is more loud from all other targets I own) 17.56.13 # toffe82: around? 17.56.15 # hey guys, anyone thought of kind of using an interface like flash on rockbox, kind of makes the whole thing a little less cpu intensive & more organised 17.56.25 # wow yes it's *loud* 17.57.04 # for a fact the ipod nano2 uses flash, its fast & the benefits are it can be customised easily 17.57.05 # AceNik: using flash would make the interface *less* CPU intensive? 17.57.37 # the nano doesn't use flash 17.57.43 # you mean flash as in adobe's flash ? 17.58.08 # NICO: thats what i belive, since flash would already load a part of its core ont he ram, & others will follow easily, saratoga ? 17.58.34 # saratoga: thats what i think it does ?, a flash menu, otherwise that kind of an interface is not possible 17.58.50 # i don't think you know what flash is 17.59.02 # I agree with saratoga 17.59.05 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-220-26.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 17.59.15 # XavierGr: no mail sent. just thought I'd get to the point. :) 17.59.19 # ok guys then ? what do you think ? 17.59.29 # there is *no way* a flash interface would be less CPU intensive than what we have currently 17.59.30 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008041818]") 17.59.54 # i think your idea is both physically impossible and really bad 18.00.08 # my guess is that there wouldn't even be any cpu left to decode music 18.00.12 # Nico: it can be, if a part of the files loaded onto ram 18.00.21 # ok my bad then i guess 18.00.27 # AceNik: that argument doesn't make sense 18.00.43 # Nico: but then is it possible to code soemwhat an interfae like flash with rockbox 18.00.57 # AceNik: I think you should try to explain what exactly you want to do, not things like 'like flash' 18.01.42 # 'like flash' is either unwanted or extremely vague 18.02.03 # how do i work on the interface with rockbox, what kind of files control the main menu, other than themes i cant see any other way, how can i change the menu structure etc 18.02.06 # I know my ears are faulty but this is the only target that I can't listen to it on full volume (on earphones of course). It's starting to hurt at -10db! 18.02.22 Quit Xerion (" ") 18.02.52 # * gevaerts hands XavierGr new ears 18.03.01 # AceNik: You need to edit the source code (Rockbox is written in C) 18.03.20 # linuxstb: which files 18.03.26 # * XavierGr tries to reattach the new ears. 18.04.18 # AceNik: Do you know how to program in C? 18.04.38 # linuxstb: yes a little bit 18.05.26 # jhMikeS: you're not planning on working on the keymap, are you? 18.05.51 # AceNik: Then you should just download a copy of the Rockbox source, and start familiarising yourself with it. If you have specific questions, I'm sure people will help. 18.07.07 # linuxstb: i have the source, have gotten fmailiar with it since quite a while, been patching my builds for my h10[20GB] 18.07.14 # XavierGr, wow. 18.07.30 # i listen to my music at -20db, and that's loud, imo 18.07.49 # (my music is mp3gained, so also quieter than usual 18.08.00 # Horscht: on what target? 18.08.11 # Ipod Video 18.08.21 # * Nico_P is at -50 dB on the beast right now 18.08.24 # but does that realy make that big a difference? 18.08.55 # or am I not interpreting that number correctly? 18.08.56 # linuxstb: i want to be able to create a patch or a new interface where the main menu, structure, can be customised along with the theme, currently we dont have that, also menu renders different fonts & styles than the wps, also a menu, that has loads of sub menus as different pages or something 18.08.56 # 0 dB is the maximum level that would not distort for a full-range signal on a particular target, doesn't really say much about loudness 18.09.06 # Nico_P: I planned on just passing the buck on that one. 18.09.16 # oh, i see now, bertrik 18.09.16 # Horscht: I am not known for my sensitive hearing. :) Right now I am watching elephants dream at -20db on the gigabeast 18.09.16 # jhMikeS: I think I'll have a go at it then 18.09.39 # jhMikeS: btw, are doom and rockboy supposed to work? 18.10.07 # Nico_P: it is very good to have a nice keymap early so that people don't get used to a bad one and start complaining when it changes later :) 18.10.34 # it seems a lot of plugins have their own mapping, is that right? 18.10.43 # n1s: I agree. I think I'll start making it a bit more like the F's keymap if noone objects 18.11.24 # Bagder you need to update the current rockbox builds with one more target. :D 18.11.58 # Nico_P: go! (have never used an F though) :D 18.12.07 # XavierGr: We need an installation method first... 18.12.11 # So if the gigabeat S is kind of ready, will it work ont he zune too ? 18.12.29 # AceNik: no 18.12.31 # AceNik: it would if someone knew how to run code on a zune 18.12.39 # Nico_P: I made a keymap for the remaining stock plugins but mostly a cut & paste of the F ones (anything "A" = "Play") 18.12.50 # what Nico_P said ^ :) 18.13.00 # linuxstb_: ah yes it is a bit tricky at the moment 18.13.03 # but from what i read ont he forums, both the players have the same hardware 18.13.27 # AceNik, read again. they're similar, but not the same. there's also the issue of trying to run custom code on the zune. 18.13.28 # AceNik: yes but we can't run any code on the Zune 18.13.35 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 18.13.37 # same chips or literally the same connections? 18.13.41 # AceNik: the difference is that the Zune's firmware encryption doesn't have the same hole as the S' 18.14.35 # jhMikeS: I don't think anyone knows but I would expect it to be very similar connections because of same chips + same manufacturer + approx same size 18.14.42 # Nico: the processor security thing ? 18.15.31 # Nico: so its till someone figures how to crack the whole encryption thing ? 18.15.59 # AceNik: AFAIK the firmware is digitally signed to prevent homebrew execution. on the S that scheme had a hole, but that hole is plugged on the zune 18.16.20 # yes, that's it. same thing as with the recent ipods 18.16.21 # saratoga: you have a broken lcd on a S ? 18.16.27 # Nico_P: do you know the details of the hole and the exploit? 18.16.41 # toffe82: yes I got ripped off on ebay 18.16.51 # jhMikeS: Are bass and treble implemented yet? 18.16.58 # n1s: not really, but it's all in mknkboot.c. ZunePet and ptw419 were the ones who found the exploit 18.17.02 # i'm wondering if I should buy a bricked gigabeat and try to swap screens 18.17.03 # saratoga: how much did you pay for it? 18.17.11 # it is difficult to find a lcd and buying from toshiba it is 140$ I think 18.17.18 # $90 18.17.23 # n1s: the port thread probably has details too 18.17.23 # * krazykit has a dead S with a working LCD 18.17.29 # yeah rip-off :( 18.17.38 Part AceNik 18.17.54 # we need this HW eq stuff straightened out to enable that on the 'beast 18.17.58 # try to find one that say message on the screen contact the manufacturer so you are sure that the screen is ok 18.17.59 # toffe82: think i could take the LCD out of this unit: http://cgi.ebay.com/Toshiba-Gigabeat-30-GB-White-MES30VW-Needs-Repair_W0QQitemZ300219723208QQihZ020QQcategoryZ73839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ? 18.18.06 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 18.18.12 # ah good idea 18.18.33 # krazykit: interested in selling it? (or interested in buying the parts to fix it) 18.18.36 # I was looking this one but they don't say if the screen is working 18.18.37 # jhMikeS: OK, I guessed not (I just tried to increase bass and the volume changed, but not the bass that I could tell) 18.19.02 # * BigBambi is dead chuffed with this 18.19.07 # saratoga, yes, which is why i mentioned it :) 18.19.53 # saratoga: this one seems to be working http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=110248678947 18.20.22 # yeah i'm also looking at that one 18.22.40 # jhMikeS: How did you find for the sound ? 18.23.19 # krazykit: sent you a message 18.23.21 Join moos [0] (n=51c0deac@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e161fd53c2038a46) 18.23.33 # hi there 18.23.43 # toffe82: disassembly 18.24.02 # jhMikeS: w00t ! 18.24.20 # saratoga, i didn't recieve a /msg. are you identified on freenode? 18.24.28 # no i'm not 18.24.29 # jhMikeS: nothing with the tracing ? to difficult ? 18.24.32 # maybe you could messageme? 18.24.58 # does somebody as the email of low_light ? 18.25.01 # krazykit you can turn on messages for unidentified people 18.28.06 # toffe82: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2006-05/0129.shtml 18.29.05 # thanks 18.36.27 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 18.38.24 # has anyone run test_codec on the gigabeast yet? 18.40.54 # hmm, the beast isn't mounting and lsusb is reporting it as "Toshiba Corp. Gigabeat S (mtp)" in the bootloader usb mode 18.41.00 # * Nico_P thinks he has a nice keymap 18.43.07 # go go go ! 18.44.49 # toffe82: I recally mentioning that part of the board seems broken. other stuff was traceable wrt codec hookup (to verify the connections). 18.45.27 # one thing on the S, it support the remote BUT, the same contact is also the video output, so it must be checked before use 18.46.53 Quit Horscht ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 18.47.27 # HP detect isn't really right anyway and hence dealing with the remote. some buttons show the sense we're using for headphone detect goes hi or low depending on the remote button pushed. 18.48.20 # jhMikeS: what I am syaing is that there is a switch to select either the contact as remote or video output 18.48.25 Quit desowin (Excess Flood) 18.48.39 # which should be stop: long PLAY or short POWER or both? 18.48.52 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 18.50.06 Quit AndyIL () 18.50.08 # Just short POWER IMO 18.50.12 # I personally prefer long play 18.50.18 # ;) 18.50.28 # short power for me 18.50.29 # jhMikeS: great job on the beast! 18.50.32 # jhMikeS: the max9505 make the switch 18.50.39 # I really dislike setups that use the same button for stop and to back out of menus 18.50.42 # short POWER is what we have on the F 18.50.57 # * BigBambi is fan of cross target consistency 18.51.08 # jhMikeS: to back out menus I've set the BACK key (and LEFT works too) 18.51.32 Quit moos ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.51.39 # and given I use the F everyday at the moment, I rather not have a few minor yet annoying quirks between them 18.52.23 Join moos [0] (n=51c0deac@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a32eb32801eeaf55) 18.52.53 # change the F :) 18.53.07 Quit moos (Client Quit) 18.53.15 Join moos [0] (n=51c0deac@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0ec27abeb7dea5a5) 18.53.49 # yeah I have to vote short power for consistency with other targets 18.53.50 Quit moos (Client Quit) 18.53.51 # jhMikeS: And many other targets... 18.53.58 # * jhMikeS wants a replacement for that awful "window" key 18.54.24 # I think I'll set it to short power. of course we can still discuss this later on 18.54.35 # * jhMikeS begrudges consistency when he doesn't like what's consistent 18.55.06 Join houbysoft [0] (n=houbysof@30.255.broadband5.iol.cz) 18.55.13 # * BigBambi likes to be able to pick up any of the targets and once he knows which button is which, they act consistently 18.55.16 # jhMikeS: I don't really see what's wrong with power... it's never been used to back out of menus AFAIK 18.55.38 # it's like the stop on power on e200 where stopping playback or power off from a certain menu back out of the menu 18.55.52 Join moos [0] (n=51c0deac@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3151d66add208ea5) 18.55.53 Quit moos (Client Quit) 18.56.05 # Nico_P: depends if the target is short on buttons 18.56.10 # * jhMikeS supposes 18.57.24 Join moos [0] (n=51c0deac@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7324f7d653c1f3ca) 18.58.04 # to be honest i've been using the e200 for a year and I still don't understand the nauances of its buttons 18.58.43 # * BigBambi thinks pixelma should commit her c200 changes. The svn keymap is *horrible* 18.58.59 Join Bepe_ [0] (n=Bepe@213.151.130.162) 18.59.11 # * gevaerts never uses the c200 to control svn 18.59.13 Quit bepe86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.59.15 # is there an e200 button that goes back to the WPS? 19.00.23 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.01.18 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 19.01.18 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.01.25 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 19.02.29 # hmm, my gigabeast bootloader paniced with "Unhandled IRQ -1" 19.03.07 # try again. it happens to me at times 19.03.43 # saratoga: yes, the play button does that (top button) 19.03.51 # * Nico_P committed the keymap change. please try it out :) 19.03.53 # Nico_P: it's just that having stop on the S be power puts one playback control way out the way of all the others 19.04.28 # jhMikeS: they're all on the right hand side now 19.04.28 # took me a while before I discovered the quickscreen on my e200 :) 19.05.09 # * jhMikeS has to charge the beast for awhile 19.06.30 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 19.07.12 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 19.07.33 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.208.235) 19.07.40 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9vm.cable.mindspring.com) 19.07.44 Nick Bepe_ is now known as bepe86 (n=Bepe@213.151.130.162) 19.09.03 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 19.09.16 Quit mcuelenaere (Client Quit) 19.09.25 # strange the beast skips frames on elephants dream (320*240) in certain scenes 19.10.08 # i assume all the display hardware acceleration isn't implemented yet 19.10.32 # IIRC it is running at 50% CPU too 19.10.57 # I think there's 1) core voltage issues (the current ATA driver just loads up 100% cpu) that cause those spurious interrupts 2) no dma of any sort yet 19.11.29 Quit moos ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 19.11.32 # Hello all! 19.11.33 # assembly code also needs to be written to keep the piplines full 19.11.38 # nice to hear that this thing has more juice in it 19.11.52 # It is a beast :) 19.12.07 # 532 MHz, FPU, hardware display acceleration, .... 19.12.26 # what target are you guys talking about? 19.12.31 # gigabeat s 19.12.32 # i'm betting it breaks a 1000% playback speed on MP3 easily 19.12.40 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 19.12.46 # saratoga: test_codec? 19.12.47 # gigabeat S aka gigabeast aka the beast :) 19.12.47 Join moos [0] (n=51c0deac@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9d53167d47d6b5e3) 19.12.55 # at what point is the porting? 19.13.07 # Davide-NYC: audio playback came just today :) 19.13.09 # Since a few minutes ago it plays sound 19.13.14 # Nico_P: yeah 19.13.19 # CRIPES! Buying one. 19.13.22 # So it's now entirely done :) 19.13.22 # impressive 19.13.30 # Congrats!!! 19.13.37 # i'm speculating (I don't have a working gigabeast yet) 19.13.46 # * BigBambi points at jhMikeS for praise 19.14.11 # * XavierGr praises jhmikes that tamed the beast!! 19.14.15 # saratoga: ah, right. I'll try to test a bit later 19.14.24 # 2000% might be possible if anyone felt like putting the ARMv5 DSP asm into the decoders 19.14.25 # * Davide-NYC has been lavishing praise on jhmikes for years and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. 19.14.31 # though maybe thats just silly :) 19.14.50 # * Nico_P takes his beast shopping 19.15.10 # Can the beast run doom without interrupting playback ? 19.15.24 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet24.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 19.15.26 # it should be able to, theres no IRAM problems 19.15.27 # question: does anyone have an opinion on the DC offsett seen in recordings made by sansa C2x0 targets? 19.15.43 # saratoga: rockbox is being ported to other targets that can use arm v5 instructions :) 19.15.54 # gevaerts: last time I tried, doom didn't work 19.15.56 # doom uses the audio hardware though 19.16.01 # n1s: yeah but they're all too fast to care about mp3 optimization i think 19.16.14 # and the buffer 19.16.14 # It could go via a mixer 19.16.27 # Nico_P: that might be an issue :) 19.16.33 # oh i was assuming he meant with the doom sound disabled 19.16.34 # pulse? 19.16.40 # saratoga: faster -> longer batterytime so imho it's still a good idea 19.16.57 # gevaerts: You going to port pulse audio then? :) 19.17.05 # there's a whole new DSP instruction set to use too :) 19.17.15 # n1s: i doubt the difference between 800% and 1200% realtime really helps with battery life much 19.17.33 # * gevaerts reminds BigBambi that he doesn't have a beast ;) 19.17.37 # though it will be welcome for mpegplayer and faac 19.17.46 # gevaerts: Otherwise, no problem :) 19.18.25 # BigBambi: there might be other reasons as well :) 19.18.26 # saratoga: there are a few decoders that aren't that fat like mac for example 19.18.46 # ah yes MAC 19.19.27 # the S has the VFP extensions right? 19.19.33 # yes 19.19.43 # are they FP only or can they do Integer ops in vector too? 19.19.47 # VFP + SIMD 19.20.17 # and Java as well in case we want to go there ;) 19.20.22 # the SIMD stuff is standard in v5 and higher, right? 19.20.34 # its not stardard in any arm flavor i think 19.20.59 # though the dsp stuff might be standard in v5 or v6 19.21.34 # http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/DDI0211J_arm1136_r1p5_trm.pdf 19.22.35 # ohh pipeline diamgrams 19.23.42 # ah, SIMD is standard in v6 and the dsp stuff came in v5TE 19.25.08 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@barry-workstation.ucd.ie) 19.26.10 # jhMikeS: have you looked into USB on the beast yet? 19.26.54 # markun: we have bl USB mode now :) 19.27.09 # * linuxstb_ thinks markun has some catching up to do ;) 19.27.58 # jhMikeS: for user friendly USB I guess we need to hot-fix the bootable flags and the visibility of the first partition. Is there more ? 19.28.26 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 19.29.36 Join npl [0] (n=npl@141.25.Globcom.Net) 19.29.41 Quit nplus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.29.52 # gevaerts: not that I know of? changing them was all that's needed for linux, correct? 19.30.01 # Yes 19.30.30 Join K4rP4D [0] (n=KrPD@unaffiliated/krpd) 19.30.34 # * jhMikeS wonders about just adding a filter layer (for more reasons than just that) 19.30.53 # * gevaerts worries about complexity 19.31.41 # This is all just sector zero, which is simple to do. A real filter layer would also allow exporting part of a block device, so you need remapping 19.31.53 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 19.31.59 # It would be kept neatly out of the way so no lines of code would be added for other devices. like read/write_sectors_filtered which just map to nonfiltered versions on other targets. 19.33.20 # * gevaerts looks at the source to get an idea of the complexity 19.35.02 Join gevaerts_ [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-134.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.35.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.35.21 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 19.35.28 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@195-144-092-134.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.36.09 # * gevaerts finds that it's complex enough to get disconnected 19.36.24 # hehe :) 19.37.30 # jhMikeS: it's probably simple enough to be doable. It just needs a different block_count at the start of handle_scsi() and an offset in the ata read and write functions 19.37.31 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 19.37.45 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 19.37.46 Nick npl is now known as nplus (n=npl@141.25.Globcom.Net) 19.37.52 Quit linuxstb_ (Nick collision from services.) 19.38.12 # well, as far as "complexity" goes, I don't think I'm holding back on this port. the lcd driver will need to be able to use multiple framebuffers in order to use the IPU+graphics functions and so nothing will get in the way of using the hardware fully. 19.38.22 Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 19.39.28 # Of course doing the remapping the easy way will get you a partitionless device, i.e. only the filesystem. 19.40.05 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 19.41.33 # * gevaerts is thinking about the best way to handle this. We always need the data partition, we sometimes need the firmware partition, and we rarely need the entire disk 19.41.35 # I'd like to hide the bootloader partition unless it's intended to be displayed 19.42.20 # Couldn't we just make the partition table read-only, and fake the partition type so OSes don't mount it? 19.42.39 # i.e. keep the geometry the same. 19.42.48 # There are two ways to do that : (1) export only the data partition (i.e. a smaller block device), and (2) make the partition of type '0' (empty). 19.43.19 # as long as it's done without actually modifying the disk itself I"m happy 19.43.25 # If we go for (2), I suggest that we also fake the bootable flags 19.43.58 Quit moos ("CGI:IRC") 19.44.05 # (2) would be purely in software. The beast doesn't boot if you try to do this on disk 19.44.05 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 19.44.18 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 19.44.43 # * gevaerts is undecided 19.44.54 Join freqmod_qu [0] (n=quassel@2001:700:300:1800:213:d3ff:fee9:5ed0) 19.45.13 # What happens if we patch the partition table in transit and the user runs fdisk ? 19.48.28 # My proposal would be to have three modes : 19.48.32 # as in changing the partition table we're filtering? I had though about it and it will have to be watched and cached info kept synced. 19.48.58 # (1) (normal mode) Only show the data partition, remapped so the host sees nothing else 19.49.39 # (2) (bootloader upgrade mode) Show both partitions, remapped as two LUNs so the host sees two disks, but still no partition table 19.49.41 Quit houbysoft (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.49.52 # (3) (expert recovery mode) Show the entire disk 19.50.21 # (3) is implemented now :) 19.51.06 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54967C1F.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.51.55 # of couse we know users will insist on abusing (3) just to do nasty things to the disk and cause endless support headaches :) 19.52.18 # gevaerts: That's what I meant with "make the partition table read-only" - i.e. any attempt by the host OS to repartition will fail. 19.52.18 Join borges_ [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c99a2.pool.mediaWays.net) 19.52.42 # The user will of course need to type 'Yes, I know what I'm doing' on the rockbox virtual keyboard :) 19.54.41 # linuxstb: we need to either make it fail silently (i.e. ignore the write), or return an error. Returning an error will be nasty, and I don't like failing silently as I don't know how different OSes will handle that 19.54.43 # The correct answer is of course "no" which then shows the whole disk. 19.55.39 # gevaerts: Why would returning an error be nasty? 19.56.02 Quit bepe86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.56.06 # linuxstb: the host will see that as a normal write error, i.e. a bad sector 19.56.18 Join bepe86 [0] (n=Bepe@213.151.130.162) 19.56.44 # AFAIK you can't just say 'this is read only' without saying it for the entire disk 19.57.15 # Is this the right list of error codes? http://www.miditemp.com/english/scsiec.html 19.58.41 # It looks about right. There are more, but I think most OSes actually ignore the exact error 19.58.56 Join webguest16 [0] (n=444f180d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-af0c163865719d87) 19.59.21 # * gevaerts refines his proposal. Combine (1) and (2) and always show two disks, only usually the firmware disk is ejected 19.59.31 # I would be interested to know how OSes deal with them... e.g. DATA PROTECT would seem applicable. 19.59.50 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 20.00.03 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 20.00.11 # hey im having some issues with rockbox on my e200, its with the sound settings 20.00.35 # hello? 20.00.45 # webguest16: Just ask your question. 20.00.55 # webguest16, what kind of issue 20.02.01 # Nico_P: the keymap seems to work nicely 20.02.06 Quit webguest16 (Client Quit) 20.02.10 # linuxstb: It would be the applicable one, but from my reading of the specs it still applies to the entire medium 20.02.30 # pff, he left already :( 20.02.52 # jhMikeS: thanks 20.03.18 # what happens if someone formats the firmware partition? would it require an ata adapter to fix? 20.03.30 # I don't think so 20.03.37 # Nico_P: I like it too, everything so far is as i expected them to be :) 20.04.35 # saratoga: I think the player would just ask the user for a new firmware 20.05.16 # What if someone formats it as ntfs or hfs+ ? Would it still recover from that ? 20.05.33 # * gevaerts thinks of actual c250 recovery support questions 20.05.47 # from what I've understood so far, it would reformat it and ask for an update 20.06.12 # so it sounds like protecting the firmware partition isn't a big deal 20.06.38 # * Nico_P warns he hasn't verified his claims 20.06.40 # Someone should test ;) 20.07.26 # * jhMikeS elects toffee82 20.07.45 # * linuxstb was going to vote for GodEater, as he isn't here 20.07.53 # if you can just repartition and reinstall rockbox, it seems like protecting the firmware partition beyond hiding it by default is silly 20.08.04 # * jhMikeS forgot to use tab completion again :0 20.08.40 # no passwords? 20.09.11 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 20.09.12 # saratoga: hiding by default is fine, it's just that this requires lying about the partition table which _may_ cause trouble if the host writes to that 20.09.13 # saratoga: It's not just a safety issue - the firmware partition is just a normal FAT32 partition (which isn't normally visible with the OF), so it could confuse users to see it. 20.09.37 # Does the OF refuse to boot if we change the partition type? 20.09.47 # (of the firmware partition) 20.09.54 # Yes 20.09.55 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.10.09 # Someone tried, I don't remember who 20.10.25 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 20.10.38 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 20.10.39 # That's the main reason (IMHO) to not just fix it on the disk 20.10.49 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-220-26.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 20.15.06 # I realize I'm a little late, but AWESOME NEWS! on audio for the beast! 20.15.18 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 20.15.25 # jhMikeS: Thanks! Now I need to get a bigger battery... 20.15.29 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-220-26.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 20.16.42 # jhMikeS: any reason not to turn low battery shutdown on now that battery reading works? 20.16.56 # correct battery capacity selection will be important since changing is software controlled and uses current sense (though the current PM code isn't very friendly to what has to be done) 20.17.17 # n1s: maybe get some idea of the correct curve first? 20.17.58 # ok, will do a battery bench 20.18.12 # I think some kind of abstraction layer between UMS and ata_* would be a good idea anyway. Once that's done it will be easy to experiment with all sorts of wild ideas 20.20.27 # gevaerts: I plan on a full DMA ata driver and possibly DMA-ing usb transfers (almost) directly to the disk. Would anything preclude that? 20.21.04 Quit crope`` ("Leaving") 20.21.38 # the disk debug screen needs to show more than PIO modes nowadays 20.22.17 # jhMikeS: depends. Direct transfers from the usb controller to the ata controller won't work with the current architecture, but you get a 16k block of RAM that either has to be filled from disk or written to disk 20.22.30 # How you do that disk transfer is up to you 20.24.08 Join crope` [0] (n=crope@dyn3-82-128-184-125.psoas.suomi.net) 20.24.37 # * gevaerts isn't sure if direct ata-usb transfers would be allowed. It's not clear what should happen if a USB transfer doesn't complete 20.25.28 # I say "If transfer doesn't completel, detonate the device." 20.25.42 # At least this way it's clear as to what happens. 20.25.56 # the DMA is a RISC-core based programmable controller so it's not the usual setup 20.26.53 # This thing really is mental 20.26.55 # For reading direct ata to usb transfers should not cause any correctness issues 20.28.23 # On the other hand, I don't think it's actually possible to do device to device dma with the iMX31 usb controller. 20.29.58 Quit nplus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.32.01 Quit Horscht ("User was distributing pornography on server; system seized by FBI") 20.36.35 # gevaerts: true, I don't see it in the SDMA event list 20.36.43 Join spotUP [0] (i=John@c-a97ce455.21-19-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 20.37.03 # i am sure this question gets asked all the time, but i am confused =) 20.37.11 # does rockbox work on this: 20.37.12 # http://image1.play-asia.com/170/5z/pa.107687.1.jpg 20.37.16 # ipod yet? 20.37.29 # i used and loved it on my old ipod, but it got stolen grr 20.37.31 Join tedr0ck [0] (n=tedrock@d235-144-17.home1.cgocable.net) 20.38.11 Join orang1 [0] (n=lorne@dynamic-216-26-210-180.tbaytel.net) 20.39.02 # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NsNZqZ6ECI 20.39.12 # that video seems to suggest it does? 20.39.43 # hmm nope 20.39.48 # wrong nano 20.40.27 # that's a 3g and rockbox doesn't work on it 20.40.38 # aha 20.40.48 # anyone working on 3g support? 20.41.01 # is it possible? 20.41.13 # no ones working on it 20.41.21 # Possible, yes. Working on it, no. 20.41.34 # ok too bad :/ 20.41.39 # (In other words, it can be done, but no one has any idea how to yet.) 20.41.44 # aha 20.41.50 # spotUP: apple refurb have some of the old gen nanos afaik 20.42.03 # i think i'll wait 20.42.17 # Don't hold your breath. 20.42.17 # someone hack it one day =) 20.42.22 # +will 20.42.23 # patience is a virtue which spotUP seems to have. 20.42.33 # indeed =) 20.42.41 # i am an amiga user, i used to waiting 20.42.47 # +am 20.42.47 # lol 20.42.57 # i am skipping words today haha hung over 20.43.25 # does rockboys support hively tracker yet? 20.43.34 # hively tracker is a tracker me and a friend did 20.43.41 # ( www.hivelytracker.com ) 20.43.54 # it's an enhanced ahx clone 20.44.05 # if that means anything to you guys =) 20.44.25 Quit tedrock (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.44.28 # No idea. I've never heard of it. I assume this means no. 20.44.30 # hahah wtf rockbox=rockbox 20.44.45 # uhm 20.44.48 # i give up =) 20.44.51 # What state is USB hosting/"on the go" at? I would like to connect a usb keyboard to my sansa e200. 20.45.04 # orang1: None whatsoever. 20.45.16 # USB transfer is still being worked on. 20.45.31 # (Let alone host.) 20.45.34 # orang1: as far as we know the e200 does not provide the required 5V for usb host 20.45.48 # So that compatability would not be possible? 20.46.00 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180075175.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.47.29 # Maybe it's possible if you find an external 5V supply, but even then I'm not sure if the usb signals get there 20.48.14 # That'd be interesting. A battery powered USB keyboard. 20.48.16 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.48.34 # I would like to help work on USB transfer and usb on the go, is the guide for writing plugins a good place to start? 20.48.44 # Not really 20.49.11 # The source carries battery powered usb keyboards, the membrane ones. 20.49.58 # The keyboard doesn't need to be battery-powerd as-such (it probably does, for other reasons). The problem is that the usb bus itself needs 5V 20.50.10 # Ah... 20.50.22 # * Mouser_X was unaware of this limitation. 20.50.41 # What about Llorean's wonky USB hub that seems to provide power to the host? 20.50.56 # That one might work :) 20.50.59 # (That is, IIUC, that's what it appears to do.) 20.51.18 # Heh. That'd be fun to play with. 20.51.27 # (In this usage, that is.) 20.51.35 # jhMikeS: what percentage is the DAC driver at? 20.51.50 # (I'd like to update the beast port wiki page) 20.54.41 # bye! 20.54.46 Quit spotUP () 20.59.42 Join Delaney [0] (n=chatzill@c-69-248-63-43.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 20.59.54 # rock box doesnt work with 6g does it 21.00.10 # check the front page 21.00.20 # theres a handy list there 21.01.12 # guess not 21.02.02 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 21.02.06 # * n1s battery benches 21.02.15 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 21.02.45 # bets are on! 21.02.54 # * n1s bets 10h 21.04.06 Join daurn [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 21.07.14 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 21.07.34 Quit Delaney ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 21.09.27 # speaking of battery bench, I think it needed fixing because it uses a soon-to-be-deprecated ata_disk_is_active function 21.11.18 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC") 21.12.42 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 21.15.57 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.16.00 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4FFEB.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.16.06 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.16.44 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 21.19.18 Quit styleism (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.19.38 # bertrik: don't we have some kind of callback system for when the disk is spun? 21.19.43 # * Nico_P wonders why there aren't any playback bug reports ATM 21.19.54 # Nico_P: very odd :) 21.19.55 # n1s: we have one 21.20.01 Join Falco98 [0] (n=60f17af1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d7daafc8ad0bd951) 21.20.05 # n1s: I've seen a few 21.20.37 # I need to go visit the forums 21.21.02 # I got some very short crackling in track transitions on my h300 once in a while the last couple of weeks but it is so unreliable now that I can't test 21.21.04 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 21.21.34 # I plead non guilty on that :) 21.21.41 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.21.56 # it was the lovely "happens sometimes" kind :) 21.22.09 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=stephen@67.64.145.45) 21.22.44 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.24.29 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.27.51 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 21.34.35 # n1s: yes, I think the idea is to install an ata_notify_idle callback (or something similar named) to notify the battery bench plugin when the disk is spun up and done with other (main) tasks. In this callback we can flush the battery measurements buffer. At least that's what I think is supposed to happen. 21.34.43 # so... 21.35.02 # since when do the forum mods just go in and remove messages at random from threads? 21.35.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.36.53 # Depends on a few factors, but I always thought it was "This is new?" 21.37.14 # (As in, haven't they always done that? :P ) 21.39.30 # Falco98: i hardly think they do it at random 21.40.45 # meh 21.41.13 # n1s: I may have a look at battery bench tomorrow when jdgordon has woken up (I think he asked for volunteers :) ) 21.41.33 # i was following a slightly-divergent (but not o/t) undercurrent in a long thread last night, and today i've found that the posts pertaining to that have been obliterated without warning or explanation 21.42.15 # * gevaerts finds the thread in question... 21.42.23 # How was that not off-topic ? 21.42.32 # Falco98: which thread? 21.42.36 # * gevaerts also adds that he was not the deleter... 21.43.43 # the rockboxPlayer thread 21.43.51 # n1s: unless I'm mistaken it was the "what does bootlegger mean" subthread of the rockbox player thread 21.43.56 # 6751 21.44.09 # yeah that's it 21.44.56 # well, it was pertaining to audio-inputs 21.44.59 # which is relevant 21.45.31 # and it's not like a flamewar had broken out which was taking over the thread, parts of the posts were still on-topic in a stricter sense 21.46.18 # the rockbox player thread contains everything these days 21.46.43 # Heh. 21.47.05 # Bagder: Any chance we'll see Gigabeat S builds in the "Current Build" section soon? 21.47.43 # (Though, due to a lack of a good bootloader installation method on Windows, I can understand why there isn't one available yet). 21.48.48 # well, I could add it anytime I've just not got a request 21.48.52 # Mouser_X: the linux install method is hardly user friendly either 21.49.16 # I think we should wait untill we have that sorted and a manual 21.49.26 # It's far, far better than the Windows method. 21.49.41 # * Mouser_X tried the Windows method, and gave up. 21.49.47 # * bertrik agrees with n1s but doesn't really have a say in it 21.49.51 # (It never once worked for me.) 21.50.26 # also, is the manual for the S working? 21.50.46 # I think LambdaCalculus was working on it. 21.50.54 # yeah he was/is 21.51.38 # it doesn't work yet, no platform file 21.54.07 # Falco98: I removed those posts, as an argument about the nature of bootlegging is entirely non-relevant to the Rockbox player thread 21.54.18 # Or indeed taping 21.55.21 # The posts I removed were not the ones about wanting what inputs, but an argument about the ethics of recording shows 21.56.29 # The New Ports forum specifically says it is for development discussion. 21.57.42 Join moos [0] (n=c40cd9b5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-425f2eb7568f92eb) 21.58.18 # The Rockbox Player thread is already well out of hand, I cleaned up the latest raft of irrelevancies 22.00.45 Join saratoga22 [0] (n=9803c50e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d847ad77793b6697) 22.05.25 # Is dual-booting working on the S? 22.05.48 # yes 22.06.05 # But it requires an OF nk.bin to patch? 22.06.10 # but you need to patch an original nk.bin with the bootloader.gin produced when building the bootloader 22.06.26 # bootloader.bin of course :) 22.06.33 # Is that nk.bin easily available? 22.06.36 # Sort of 22.06.44 # You can't get it from the player 22.06.58 # But there is a link to it hosted somewhere or other on the wiki 22.07.35 # linuxstb: Are you looking for it? 22.07.44 Quit Horschti ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 22.07.51 # As in would you like a DCC? 22.08.00 # No, I'm just wondering what the official install method will be. 22.08.04 # aha 22.08.05 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 22.08.07 # I have a copy of it somewhere already. 22.08.17 # Well it depends if we want to dual boot of course 22.08.42 # s/we/the user/ ... 22.08.51 # But if so, I imagine you having to source it somewhere and provide it to the installer 22.08.58 # As we can hardly distribute it 22.09.17 # If possible we should make the default installation dual-boot. 22.09.36 # Is charging for the S supported in Rockbox? If it is, I've seen no indication of it charging. 22.09.44 Quit borges_ ("bye") 22.09.46 # I agree, but it is going to be tricky - unlike the irivers it isn't even available from Toshiba 22.09.53 # Mouser_X: I don't think so 22.09.55 # yet 22.10.02 # That's what I thought. 22.10.22 # it sounds like you'd have to install rockbox, and then mount the S in rockbox USB mode to get at the retail firmware 22.10.49 Quit Falco98 ("CGI:IRC") 22.10.54 # But you have to overwrite the OF nk.bin with the Rockbox bootloader to use the bootloader 22.10.57 # saratoga22: The problem with that is that installing the bootloader will (I think) overwrite the existing firmware file. 22.11.08 # BigBambi beat me to it. 22.11.16 # :) 22.13.55 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.15.20 # Mouser_X: rockbox doesn't handle charging yet but I think the pmic does a stand alone low current trickle charge without being configured 22.15.58 # Hmmm. 22.16.13 Join Synergy6 [0] (n=Synergy6@0-1b-24-4c-ae-79.hb.esol.dur.ac.uk) 22.17.22 # where did the wiki get the nk.bin from then? 22.17.43 # I believe it was extracted from a hacked updater or something similar 22.17.50 # Nico_P is your man I think 22.18.07 # can the updater be downloaded from toshiba? 22.18.27 # I don't know 22.18.33 # saratoga22: I'm not sure where the original nk.bin came from. the updater is a hacked version of the one for the V 22.19.00 # maybe the nk.bin is the one for the V. they're pretty much identical AFAIK 22.19.02 # I'm going to stop talking now as I'm in danger of talking rubbish :) 22.21.01 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.170.235) 22.22.28 # Didn't someone plug the S's drive into an ipod video and copy the files? 22.23.59 # yes, I think someone did that 22.24.08 # the port thread probably has answers 22.25.16 # the first install that requires another dap! :P 22.25.25 # Heh. 22.30.33 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@drv51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 22.34.07 # JdGordon|zzz: Interesting deltas... 22.34.56 Quit K4rP4D ("Leaving") 22.43.09 # the nk.bin come from a direct copy of the file from the disk 22.43.19 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup") 22.43.48 Quit Synergy6 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.46.35 # toffe82: Via a caddy or ipod? 22.48.03 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 22.49.26 Join bluebrother [0] (n=Dom@f053154208.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.49.33 # since it looks like toshiba does not distribute any firmware update at all, dual booting may be out of the question for people who don't want to open their gigabeat 22.49.45 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet26.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 22.49.48 # officially 22.49.59 # or easily rather 22.50.15 # saratoga22: was it you who was interested in Rockbox on the DS? 22.50.24 # marginally so 22.50.34 # i looked at the DS linux stuff briefly last summer 22.51.17 # well, I was thinking about getting one of those cards that allows running own code. I fear I won't have the time for it but maybe porting Rockbox would come up eventually 22.51.53 # it'd be a pretty easy port 22.52.02 # everything is documented and theres GPLed code for it all 22.52.44 # hmm. Anything to look for regarding those modules? 22.53.53 # i don't remember offhand 22.53.59 # i think i looked at the dslinux source 22.54.13 # or maybe one of the DS homebrew sdks 22.54.28 # anyone seen this before: " Error at entry 12 in entries file for 'apps/codecs/libwma'" 22.54.34 # when trying to run svn 22.54.52 # there is a port of scummvm for DS, so you could build the sim for the DS 22.54.53 Quit moos ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.55.11 # meaning SDL building should be documented for DS. 22.55.38 Join moos [0] (n=c40cd9b5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5447fb488d06f7fb) 22.55.44 # the scummvm port doesn't use SDL from what I read on their page. 22.56.00 # since the DS is a (slow) ARM target i don't think you'd want to 22.56.15 # it makes the Ipods seem quick, aside from its fast display hardware 22.56.16 Quit moos (Client Quit) 22.58.14 # ok. At least that's a point to start looking at code. 22.58.53 # What storage is available on a DS? 22.59.04 # linuxstb: Flash adapters. 22.59.37 Join V-K [0] (n=dsagfe76@213.43.75.106) 22.59.44 # Proprietory ones? 22.59.45 Join moos [0] (n=c40cd9b5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-de24c144fb7496bb) 22.59.51 # depending on what you buy you can use SD, microsd or Compact flash 22.59.56 Part V-K 23.00.33 # moos: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080416#12:55:27 23.00.39 # With a current SVN bootloader, my GigabeatS is not booting. 23.00.58 # BigBambi: thx internet troubls :( 23.01.06 # Is that adapter enough for you to be able to run your own code, or do you need something else? 23.01.10 # Llorean: I updated mine maybe five versions ago and it was OK 23.01.15 # What's the issue? 23.01.16 # teh adapter is enough 23.01.27 # although some have better support for homebrew then others 23.01.30 # BigBambi: And is it patched or clean? 23.01.33 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.01.43 # also, running svn up corrupted all three of my SVN folders just now 23.01.47 # * amiconn looked up what DS means, and its specs 23.01.56 # no one else had trouble? 23.02.06 # The main core should be effectively about the same speed as one PP core 23.02.07 # BigBambi: Bootloader and bootloader USB works, but it won't boot Rockbox. No error mesage 23.02.29 # The DS would be the first target with wifi... 23.02.50 # Llorean: Weirdodd 23.03.03 # * Llorean can't test any more now. 23.03.03 # It's clocked somewhat lower, but it's arm9 instead of arm7tdmi 23.03.03 # Llorean: Was it a dual boot? 23.03.38 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("This computer has gone to sleep") 23.04.20 # saratoga22: SVN seems fine for me... 23.04.37 # any ideas what "Error at entry 17 in entries file for 'apps/codecs/libwma':" would mean? 23.04.45 # i'm getting it on any copy of SVN i try to update 23.04.56 # one from this week and one from last year both ended up with it 23.05.14 Quit Horscht (Client Quit) 23.05.20 # Have you looked at that entries file? 23.05.27 # (in the .svn directory) 23.06.51 # If you haven't made any custom changes in the libwma directory, you can just delete it and svn update it again 23.07.36 # i tried that but it just gums up SVN even worse 23.08.08 # weird, I just did that and it came back fine 23.08.26 # ah that time it worked 23.08.52 # * amiconn already has the first bug report for the new quickscreen 23.09.08 # The status bar isn't redrawn 23.09.31 # ...so that the virtual disk icon doesn't work properly 23.09.49 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 23.20.02 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.22.44 # Bagder: around? 23.22.48 # yes 23.23.17 # that other UMS mode on teh V2 Sansa c200 seems odd to me 23.23.41 # it sounds like the firmware update mode described in the AMS datasheet 23.24.10 # was there some reason no one else seems to think this that I missed 23.24.37 # I don't think anyone checked those parts of the data sheet and compared with that info 23.24.42 # I certainly haven't... 23.25.20 # I looked at that last night, but thought it odd that there were files already in that partition... Someone still needs to work out how to use it though. 23.25.31 # the datasheet says if you hold a certain button during power up with the USB plugged in while off, you get the firmware update mode built into the AMS chip's room 23.26.00 # and since that mode shows you files hidden by the Sandisk UMS mode, I assume its not the same code running 23.26.07 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 23.32.34 # * amiconn thinks that the new quickscreen is way better than the old svn one, and even better than the first viewported try, but the vertical layout is a bit weird 23.32.54 # saratoga22: it just seems a bit odd that it would show some of the files seemingly in both modes then 23.33.21 # Depending on font size and screen size, the left & right items either end up unexpecteldy high, or unexpectedly low 23.34.24 # BigBambi: I tried it with and without dual boot. 23.34.27 # * Llorean is gone again 23.34.34 # Hit and run :) 23.35.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.38.17 Quit moos ("reboot") 23.39.33 Join styleism [0] (n=styleism@87-194-104-214.bethere.co.uk) 23.42.17 # * amiconn notices that bertrik fixed the M3 yellow... 23.46.43 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 23.50.47 # Bagder: what do you mean? 23.51.49 # is it the "Special Mode" (the term used on my v2 page) you're talking about? 23.52.10 # Bagder: yes 23.52.21 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 23.52.27 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.53.50 # saratoga22: Your commit was full of tabs... 23.54.44 # ugh i went through and remoed them using gedit, but I guess it rewrote them when i hit save 23.54.49 # saratoga22: is that AMS mode supposed to be plain usb-storage with some magic powers? 23.55.48 # i don't have the device to try it on, but i understood it to be UMS mode that showed a couple uninteresting binary files 23.55.53 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 23.56.01 # while the OF showed the same thing but with a few of those files hidden 23.56.06 Quit davina^ (Remote closed the connection) 23.56.17 # Bagder: Yes, that's how the datasheet describes it. Search for "usb promer"... (I've no idea what that means) 23.56.33 # which sounds like the AMS update mode to me 23.56.42 Join Synergy6 [0] (n=Synergy6@0-1b-24-4c-ae-79.hb.esol.dur.ac.uk) 23.56.48 Quit Synergy6 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.57.35 # i wonder if anyone tried it on an m200 23.57.46 # they're only about $15, so I wouldn't mind bricking one