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Subject: Re: ignoring paths when playingg from playlists
From: Jeff Waltzer (jeffwaltzer_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 2003-01-06


    Then I guess the best solution is a fix playlists program running on
the PC side of things?

--- "Paul \"Winkie\" Robins" <paul_at_gamingmp.com> wrote:
> I think it's more important to keep rockbox untainted with code used to
> fix
> errors on the user side of things. Musicmach has always been a bloated
> pile
> of crap, even more so now it seems.
>
> If you can't create your own playlists, stick with default firmware imho
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Waltzer" <jeffwaltzer_at_yahoo.com>
> To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: ignoring paths when playingg from playlists
>
>
> >
> > Both relative and absolute paths have legimate uses. Absolute
> paths
> > are good if you want to move all your playlists to a seperate playlist
> > folder seperate from the mp3 files. Relative paths are good if you
> like
> > to move directories around and keep your playlists correct.
> >
> > Unfortunetly these two goals are not compatible with each other.
> > Moving directories with absolute playlists screws things up and moving
> > playlists with relative paths screws things up also.
> >
> > I don't know if there is a good solution for this problem. One
> could
> > have the archos be intelligent about looking for the files. One could
> > have utlities on the PC side that automatically fix playlists as files
> are
> > moved. Or one could just call the users 'stupid'. :)
> >
> > --- Greg Haerr <greg_at_censoft.com> wrote:
> > > : I'd rather have good documentation on how to create correct
> playlists
> > > : than to have Rockbox cluttered with code that corrects mistakes
> made
> > > by
> > > : the user.
> > >
> > > We better start documenting how to use the default win32 jukebox
> > > software
> > > package then. (any volunteers ;(
> > >
> > > :
> > > : Creating a correct playlist is such a simple thing.
> > >
> > > Well, since few people except the original guy who asked for this
> > > feature seem to agree with me, I'll stop, after my last attempt at
> > > explaining why this feature _could_ be considered a decent feature,
> > > (with an on/off switch):
> > >
> > > "It would be nice to read documentation on how to create correct
> > > playlists, etc, instead of having the machine just work. However,
> the
> > > reason the playlist was created 'wrong' in the first place is
> because
> > > the windows software that comes with Jukebox creates it incorrectly,
> > > non-intuitively, for the user. Then the user tries to run the
> playlist,
> > > and of course, it doesn't work with Rockbox. Of course the user
> > > is a newbie, and doesn't 'get it', nor understand why it doesn't
> work,
> > > when he uses Rockbox, although the same playlist works on the
> > > original firmware."
> > >
> > > I'm willing to bet somebody lunch that this is the reason that
> Archos
> > > added the "feature" in the first place: the windows jukebox program
> they
> > > redistribute
> > > creates non-relative playlists, and they required it so that windows
> > > users can use the box...
> > >
> > > : I still don't agree. The Archos firmware does it, good for them. I
> > > never
> > > : have to "muck" with my playlists, because they are correct,
> without
> > > any
> > > : extra path information.
> > >
> > > Well it works for you, when you use non-archos-packaged
> > > playlist creation software not on windows.
> > >
> > > Note: the archos-bundled software is called "MusicMatch".
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > :
> > > : > I think the point here is to have Rockbox run playlists without
> > > having
> > > : > to muck with them. Archos does, so should we...
> > > :
> > > :
> > > : /Linus
> > > :
> > >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > ---
> > In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In
> practice
> there is.
> > - Yogi Berra
> >
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