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Subject: RE: Experimental new UI for the Recorder : This is great !!!
From: Joaquim Carvalho (jdc_at_x64.com)
Date: 2003-02-19


New version available at:
http://www.x64.com/public/ajbrec.ajz
Joaquim

Changes:

wishes and remarks:
>
> general :
>
> - use left to exit a menu (to go back of one level I mean, as right Key is
> used to enter a menu...). (yeah.... why is left not used while in menu??
> ;) )
You're right. Fixed.

>
> - ON/F1/F3 would go back to Browser/WPS/Sound directly (while in a menu)
> (and not back up of one level in the menu hierarchy as left Key is already
> doing so).
Right again. Fixed.

> - I really miss the QuickConfig screens that are available in the normal
> Rockbox. I think it would be nice to display them after a long press (one
> sec. or so) on F1 F2 F3 :
> .A long click on F1 would bring a sort of "context menu" :
> delete/rename/record/createplaylist/editplaylist... while in Browser mode
> and editID3/showID3/PichUp/PitchDown/ while in WPS.
> .A long click F2 would bring the General Setting quick Screen
> (fileview,followplaylist, StatusBar)
> .A long click on F3 would Bring the Play Settings Quick Screen
> (RepeatMode/ShuffleMode/resume/EqPresets)
> (this would also remove the ON+Play and ON+F1 tricky shortcuts :) )
I'll do it later.

>
> sound menu :
>
> - I would prefer to have dB instead of %age for bass/Treble/loudness (make
> more sense in my opinion)
...later. Need more time/info/help

>
> - balance 50% should be 0 (centre) (more logical isn't it ?)
Don't have enough space to display -30 or 30L. Any suggestions?

>
> - I have the feeling that the volume control is way too sensitive when going
> above 60. I actually prefer the oldschool one. more precise and easier to
> use.
Right. Fixed.
Volume setting above 60% now has the smallest stepping available.

>
> - the mini icon volume seems not to match the value showed the volume
> slider. while the slider is at 47, the mini icon shows 0.
The mini icon volume was linearized, the slider display wasn't.
47 is near silence so the linearized display is more correct, I think.
Any comments on this?

>
> -I also liked the fact the original rockbox shows the volume as numerical
> value in the status bar when changing it. it is missing it this release.
My fix to the volume setup code is not mathematically correct. It's just
a quick fix to make the rockbox use more pleasant. I'd like to have a
linear and mathematically correct volume setting with the perceived
volume displayed in Db but didn't have the time to read the datasheet
and do it.
The rockbox % value is just a number with little meaning:
75% should be 3 times 25% but it isn't.

>
> Henri
>
>
>
>

On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 13:49, Henri DAVID wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> oh my god !!! GREAT work !!
>
> I really love it, and I think it was time to deeply "RE-Think" the rockbox
> interface.
>
> -new icons are really nice looking
> -the Sound menu is just Great !
> -the Video Inverse selection is really useful
>
>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se]On
> > Behalf Of Joaquim Carvalho
> > Sent: 19 February 2003 13:27
> > To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
> > Subject: Re: Experimental new UI for the Recorder
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > I put a new version up for download
> > Changes:
> > - pressing Enter for a longer time while browsing enters all
> > folders and plays the first song. This is not a real folder
> > play function but it's the best we have for now.
> > - Numeric values on the sound settings screen
> > as suggested by Roland
> > Values end in 99 as there's not enough space do display 100
> > Any further suggestions?
> >
> > Joaquim
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 01:40, roland wrote:
> > > Hi Joaquim !
> > >
> > > Your changes are very very nice !
> > > I like it - but I need to get used to the different key-mapping :)
> > >
> > > > - Graphical sound setup with vertical sliders 5 + 2 bars
> > > this is VERY cool !
> > Thanx :)
> >
> > > The scrolling to the last 2 bars is a little bit "funny",
> > though - actually
> > > I think the display is big enough to hold all 7 bars on ONE screen.
> > There wouldn't be enough space for Vol Bas Tre Bal Lou ...
> > It'd have to be VoBaTrBlLo ...
> > I don't use "Super Bass" or AVC as they sound bad to me and there's
> > already too much AVC on most recordings.
> >
> > > Integrating some numerical represantation of the settings would
> > be helpful,
> > > too.
> > I did that this morning. You can download the new version at the
> > same address.
> >
> > > I think about this and will post my ideas in form of some "fake
> > pics", if
> > > somebody would
> > > like this.
> > That would be great.
> >
> > >
> > > > - Linear volume setup
> > > Is there an advantage/disadvantage of this ?
> > All audio devices that I know off have linear perceived volume settings.
> > In hardware they use Log variable resistors to do it, in software
> > it should be much simpler.
> > Is it the need to be different that makes rockbox people think
> > otherwise?
> >
> > >
> > > > - Cleaner icons (volume and others)
> > > the music-note icon for mp3 files really looks good ! I like it.
> > >
> > > > - Inverted video cursor line
> > > hey - this was a suggestion I made some time ago. thank you for
> > implementing
> > > !
> > Thank you for the suggestion :)
> >
> > > http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-01/0164.shtml
> > > What about extending inverted line, so that icons also being inverted ?
> > > I find this would be more consequently !
> > I started by doing it that way but it felt funny as I always started
> > reading the text at the icon and my brain took a few millisecs to skip
> > the "invalid character"
> >
> > >
> > > > - More responsive keyboard
> > > this is nice,anyway!
> > >
> > > thanks for your work !
> > > I hope all the best of it will go into official rockbox release soon !
> > > regards
> > > Roland
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joaquim Carvalho" <jdc_at_x64.com>
> > > To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:19 PM
> > > Subject: Experimental new UI for the Recorder
> > >
> > >
> > > > http://www.x64.com/public/ajbrec.ajz
> > > >
> > > > I made the a few last changes that make me 100% happy with the
> > > > Recorder user interface. Please download, try and comment.
> > > >
> > > > Complete list of changes:
> > > >
> > > > - Graphical sound setup with vertical sliders
> > > > 5 + 2 bars
> > > > to go to the 2 right bars [Right] must be pressed for 1/2 sec
> > > > - Linear volume setup
> > > > - Cleaner icons (volume and others)
> > > > - Inverted video cursor line
> > > > - More responsive keyboard
> > > > - Global Keys
> > > > ON=Browse
> > > > F1=Sound_Setup
> > > > F2=Menu
> > > > F3=WPS, browse when stopped
> > > > - Play/Pause=Play/Pause always, except when browsing
> > > > - Stop=Stop always
> > > >
> > > > Joaquim
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



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