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Subject: Re: Experimental new UI for the Recorder : This is great !!!
From: roland (for_spam_at_gmx.de)
Date: 2003-02-21


Hi Joaquim,
the file doesnt work.
I get crc checksum error when loading with rolo.
i downloaded 3 times (ie, mozilla, flashget) - so i think the file is
corrupt.

regards
roland

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joaquim Carvalho" <jdc_at_x64.com>
To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: Experimental new UI for the Recorder : This is great !!!

> New version available at:
> http://www.x64.com/public/ajbrec.ajz
> Joaquim
>
> Changes:
>
> wishes and remarks:
> >
> > general :
> >
> > - use left to exit a menu (to go back of one level I mean, as right Key
is
> > used to enter a menu...). (yeah.... why is left not used while in menu??
> > ;) )
> You're right. Fixed.
>
> >
> > - ON/F1/F3 would go back to Browser/WPS/Sound directly (while in a menu)
> > (and not back up of one level in the menu hierarchy as left Key is
already
> > doing so).
> Right again. Fixed.
>
> > - I really miss the QuickConfig screens that are available in the normal
> > Rockbox. I think it would be nice to display them after a long press
(one
> > sec. or so) on F1 F2 F3 :
> > .A long click on F1 would bring a sort of "context menu" :
> > delete/rename/record/createplaylist/editplaylist... while in Browser
mode
> > and editID3/showID3/PichUp/PitchDown/ while in WPS.
> > .A long click F2 would bring the General Setting quick Screen
> > (fileview,followplaylist, StatusBar)
> > .A long click on F3 would Bring the Play Settings Quick Screen
> > (RepeatMode/ShuffleMode/resume/EqPresets)
> > (this would also remove the ON+Play and ON+F1 tricky shortcuts :) )
> I'll do it later.
>
> >
> > sound menu :
> >
> > - I would prefer to have dB instead of %age for bass/Treble/loudness
(make
> > more sense in my opinion)
> ...later. Need more time/info/help
>
>
> >
> > - balance 50% should be 0 (centre) (more logical isn't it ?)
> Don't have enough space to display -30 or 30L. Any suggestions?
>
> >
> > - I have the feeling that the volume control is way too sensitive when
going
> > above 60. I actually prefer the oldschool one. more precise and easier
to
> > use.
> Right. Fixed.
> Volume setting above 60% now has the smallest stepping available.
>
> >
> > - the mini icon volume seems not to match the value showed the volume
> > slider. while the slider is at 47, the mini icon shows 0.
> The mini icon volume was linearized, the slider display wasn't.
> 47 is near silence so the linearized display is more correct, I think.
> Any comments on this?
>
> >
> > -I also liked the fact the original rockbox shows the volume as
numerical
> > value in the status bar when changing it. it is missing it this release.
> My fix to the volume setup code is not mathematically correct. It's just
> a quick fix to make the rockbox use more pleasant. I'd like to have a
> linear and mathematically correct volume setting with the perceived
> volume displayed in Db but didn't have the time to read the datasheet
> and do it.
> The rockbox % value is just a number with little meaning:
> 75% should be 3 times 25% but it isn't.
>
> >
> > Henri
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 13:49, Henri DAVID wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > oh my god !!! GREAT work !!
> >
> > I really love it, and I think it was time to deeply "RE-Think" the
rockbox
> > interface.
> >
> > -new icons are really nice looking
> > -the Sound menu is just Great !
> > -the Video Inverse selection is really useful
> >
> >
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se]On
> > > Behalf Of Joaquim Carvalho
> > > Sent: 19 February 2003 13:27
> > > To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
> > > Subject: Re: Experimental new UI for the Recorder
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I put a new version up for download
> > > Changes:
> > > - pressing Enter for a longer time while browsing enters all
> > > folders and plays the first song. This is not a real folder
> > > play function but it's the best we have for now.
> > > - Numeric values on the sound settings screen
> > > as suggested by Roland
> > > Values end in 99 as there's not enough space do display 100
> > > Any further suggestions?
> > >
> > > Joaquim
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 01:40, roland wrote:
> > > > Hi Joaquim !
> > > >
> > > > Your changes are very very nice !
> > > > I like it - but I need to get used to the different key-mapping :)
> > > >
> > > > > - Graphical sound setup with vertical sliders 5 + 2 bars
> > > > this is VERY cool !
> > > Thanx :)
> > >
> > > > The scrolling to the last 2 bars is a little bit "funny",
> > > though - actually
> > > > I think the display is big enough to hold all 7 bars on ONE screen.
> > > There wouldn't be enough space for Vol Bas Tre Bal Lou ...
> > > It'd have to be VoBaTrBlLo ...
> > > I don't use "Super Bass" or AVC as they sound bad to me and there's
> > > already too much AVC on most recordings.
> > >
> > > > Integrating some numerical represantation of the settings would
> > > be helpful,
> > > > too.
> > > I did that this morning. You can download the new version at the
> > > same address.
> > >
> > > > I think about this and will post my ideas in form of some "fake
> > > pics", if
> > > > somebody would
> > > > like this.
> > > That would be great.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > - Linear volume setup
> > > > Is there an advantage/disadvantage of this ?
> > > All audio devices that I know off have linear perceived volume
settings.
> > > In hardware they use Log variable resistors to do it, in software
> > > it should be much simpler.
> > > Is it the need to be different that makes rockbox people think
> > > otherwise?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > - Cleaner icons (volume and others)
> > > > the music-note icon for mp3 files really looks good ! I like it.
> > > >
> > > > > - Inverted video cursor line
> > > > hey - this was a suggestion I made some time ago. thank you for
> > > implementing
> > > > !
> > > Thank you for the suggestion :)
> > >
> > > >
http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-01/0164.shtml
> > > > What about extending inverted line, so that icons also being
inverted ?
> > > > I find this would be more consequently !
> > > I started by doing it that way but it felt funny as I always started
> > > reading the text at the icon and my brain took a few millisecs to skip
> > > the "invalid character"
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > - More responsive keyboard
> > > > this is nice,anyway!
> > > >
> > > > thanks for your work !
> > > > I hope all the best of it will go into official rockbox release soon
!
> > > > regards
> > > > Roland
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Joaquim Carvalho" <jdc_at_x64.com>
> > > > To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:19 PM
> > > > Subject: Experimental new UI for the Recorder
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > http://www.x64.com/public/ajbrec.ajz
> > > > >
> > > > > I made the a few last changes that make me 100% happy with the
> > > > > Recorder user interface. Please download, try and comment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Complete list of changes:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Graphical sound setup with vertical sliders
> > > > > 5 + 2 bars
> > > > > to go to the 2 right bars [Right] must be pressed for 1/2 sec
> > > > > - Linear volume setup
> > > > > - Cleaner icons (volume and others)
> > > > > - Inverted video cursor line
> > > > > - More responsive keyboard
> > > > > - Global Keys
> > > > > ON=Browse
> > > > > F1=Sound_Setup
> > > > > F2=Menu
> > > > > F3=WPS, browse when stopped
> > > > > - Play/Pause=Play/Pause always, except when browsing
> > > > > - Stop=Stop always
> > > > >
> > > > > Joaquim
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>



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