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Subject: RE: What's left for 2.0?
From: Josh (rockbox_at_nyip.net)
Date: 2003-04-04


I have gotten this error numerous times. All of them have been static to
queuing, recording, and writing a .cfg file though. After it had been
freshly formatted this started. I scandisked it in Windows the first
time it came around and it fixed. It broke a few days later though.
After playing with it over and over I have found a rather strikingly
static conclusion. If I leave the disk spindown at 5s, the default, I
have NO PROBLEMS whatsoever, besides things being a bit slower. If I
change it to 30s, which is what I am used to, it does not work. Bringing
it back down to 5s does not work either. I must reset settings and not
touch the disk spindown settings. Any other tests you think I should
perform to see what the problem is?

Josh - PDAJunkie.net

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se] On
Behalf Of Chris Hoekstra
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:43 AM
To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
Subject: Re: What's left for 2.0?

What percentage of the users get the red LED error? I have never gotten

this on either my 1.3 year old recorder 6Gb or my replacement (shorting
out display) recorder 6Gb (3 months old).

I know the emails of "Well *I* don't get that error" are not productive,

but I am just curious as to whether this is a widespread problem or
isolated group. All we have seen so far is from the people that have
the problem, so it is hard to judge how widespread this problem is.

Just curious, that's all.

Chris H.

Eldridge, Fredric G. wrote:

>For me I still assert that the red led lockups are related to
>temperature. This morning it was quite cold, below 20 Fahrenheit. I
>left my warm house and started the Archos running. About two blocks
>later, well before the car was warmed up, I stopped for gas. Shortly
>after leaving the gas station the Archos entered the red led dead state

>and would not even reboot (the progress bar of Archos OS version 1.30j
>hung at about 1/3 of the way) until I warmed it up inside my jacket.
>It then ran flawlessly, inside my jacket next to my chest, for the next

>1.5 hours of my drive. I understand that battery output is
>substantially lower in cold temperatures and for that reason I'm not
>sure that Rockbox can solve this problem. It may be just an inherent
>problem of the hardware
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jack [mailto:jack_at_sylviawebster.f2s.com]
>Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:03 AM
>To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
>Subject: RE: What's left for 2.0?
>
>Can you buy (expensive) batteries to stop this?
>
>=======================================
>
>On 03.04.2003 at 10:09 PM Gerald Clark wrote:
>
>
>
>>Battery output decreases significanty at lower temperatures. In cold
>>weather, disk spinup could very well fail.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>> From: "Eldridge, Fredric G."<Fredric_at_mail.crk.umn.edu>
>> Sent: 4/3/03 8:16:00 AM
>> To: "rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se"<rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>> Subject: RE: What's left for 2.0?
>> I have a really off the wall idea about this. For some time I
>>
>>
>have
>
>
>> thought that this problem might be temperature related. I know this
>> sounds bizarre but it has been consistent ever since I got my
>>
>>
>Archos FM
>
>
>> Recorder about three months ago. I live in North Dakota where we
>>
>>
>get a
>
>
>> lot of cold weather but since the weather has started to get a
>>
>>
>little
>
>
>> more spring like this problem is a lot less common. I always take
>>
>>
>the
>
>
>> unit indoors at night and when I first start it up in the car it
>>
>>
>works
>
>
>> for a while. If it is cold out it will lock up after 10 - 15
>>
>>
>minutes.
>
>
>> After restarting if I keep it warm, for instance, by putting the
>>
>>
>unit
>
>
>>in
>> my shirt pocket under my coat it will not reoccur.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daniel Stenberg [mailto:daniel_at_haxx.se]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 7:35 AM
>> To: Rockbox
>> Subject: What's left for 2.0?
>>
>> We're down to only one single flaw that is still considered a
>> show-stopper
>> for the upcoming 2.0 release, and that is the ATA/disk problems
>> sometimes
>> referred to as the 'red led death' (and similar).
>>
>> Some minor adjustments have been made lately that according to some
>> people
>> have improved the situation.
>>
>> We need more feedback, more reports, more analyses. Bring your
>>
>>
>opinions
>
>
>> and
>> your ideas.
>>
>> The problem that sometimes appears in combination with rewinding or

>>fast
>> forwarding, is not the same problem and will not be addressed
>>
>>
>before
>
>
>>the
>> 2.0
>> release since it will require a somewhat larger fix.
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Stenberg -- http://rockbox.haxx.se/ --
>>
>>
>http://daniel.haxx.se/
>
>
>
>
>
>Jack (Futurealive Games)
>
>
>
>



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