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Subject: Re: Hd failure on recorder 20
From: mielpop (mielpop_at_free.fr)
Date: 2003-11-30


thanks for answering so quickliy...
>

> mhhh - replace the batteries with some fresh charged ones and try again.
> archos JB behaves really strange when batteries begin getting empty or if
> on cell of the 4 is going to get bad.

1) Firstly : I assume when I replace the batteries, I'll have to charge them
before, and place it into the JB BEFORE charging. Am I right ?

> the shutdown after 1-2 seconds, the register error and the tactactac sound
> familar to me.
> let me guess: the tactactac goes in sync with flickering of the lcd
> backlight, right? (btw: even the charger usually doesn`t deliver enough
> power for permanent "running" of the jukebox. so big datatransfers and
> long-lasting-operations like defrag _can_ be problematic - at least with my
> car adapter this happens quite often and gives me the typical "tactactac"
> on startup)

2) Ok, this is exactly what I get... But, I must say i had charged the
batteries before booting... The led indicated the batteries were full. Does
the malfunction you suggested implicate my issue keeps affecting the JB
eventhough ?

3) As I've been writing to archos, they said nothing about the battery issue.
How did you discover this was the problem ?

4) As I've initiated the disk format, the operation failed with the disk
making a louder "tactactac" noise. Does this mean my HD is down, or, may I
expect the batteries changing will solve everything (after formatting, again)
?

5) As I suppose you solved the problem changing the batteries, did you do it
yourself, or did you send it to your retailer ? If you did it yourself, what
kind of batteries did you use ? Same as original or others ?

6) Sorry for asking so much ;)

tx or everything

>
> roland
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mielpop" <mielpop_at_free.fr>
> To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:36 PM
> Subject: Hd failure on recorder 20
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have encountered the following problem recently :
> >
> > I was trying to acces my archos recorder 20 with linux mandrake 9.1. And
> > that was NOT a piece of cake :
> >
> > Archos jukebox is supposed to be recognized as a usb mass storage, and I
> > read everything I could to do so : what I finally got was that it was
> > possible for me to access it if the archos was plugged BEFORE booting...
> >
> > I recently re-intalled the 9.1, and then, on boot, I was asked if I
> > wanted to run the config tool, what I did.
> >
> > I remember I did not do anything with this tool (meaning : no suppression
> > of partition or anything, no formating or so).
> >
> > But after that, I couldn't acces to th internal harddrive in my rockbox :
> >
> > Here is the thing :
> >
> > when I run the jukebox, the system begin to load during 1 or 2 seconds,
> > then shut down. If I keep the on button pushed, I get these values :
> >
> > Hd register error
> > SC1 (85) 128
> > SN1 (170) 128
> > SC2 (170) 128
> > SN2 (85) 128
> >
> > I firstly thought the linux config tool I ran had messed up my partition
> > table or anything. Which seemed to be confirmed by the fact I could plug
> > the archos with usb (keeping the "on" button on boot usb pllugged).
> >
> > So, I tryed to do something with windows XP :
> >
> > I tryed a scandisk, wich freezed at 25 %
> > I tryed to format the hard drive (fat 32), expecting I could get a new
> > formatted hard drive, but the format didnt' succeed (an error message
> > occurred at 10 %).
> >
> > - Now, I can not anymore access the hard driove with usb (under linux or
> > windows).
> >
> > - I can hear a strange little noise when I keep the "on" button pushed
> > (something like a speedy "tac tac tac tac".
> >
> > - Still, I get the given values.
> >
> > Hd register error
> > SC1 (85) 128
> > SN1 (170) 128
> > SC2 (170) 128
> > SN2 (85) 128
> >
> >
> > I read the thread
> > http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-08/0497.shtml
> > But it does concern a new HD recognition problem.
> >
> > Anyway, my feeling is that my hard drive is down... But, as I didn't
> > manage to do anything mechanically, I wonder if I could not do anything
> > (except changing the drive).
> >
> > Firstly, does anywone know what is wrong with my jukebox (is it
> > necessarily a HD problem).
> > Secondly, does anywone have any idea of what happenned ?
> > Thirdly, does anywone have a suggestion to fix it ?
> >
> >
> > Thank you for reading all this long message.



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