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Subject: Re: Avos and strategy
From: Jack (
Date: 2003-12-15

Has anyone told the EFF? They'll probably be able to tell us where we stand.


On 15.12.2003 at 02:39 PM SteamShip wrote:

>Having been on both sides of numerous lawsuits, David is correct. Here in
>the USA, to initiate a lawsuit, most lawyers require $20,000 USD up front
>a retainer before they will take your case and file the suit. A typical
>lawsuit that goes to a jury trial will exceed $50,000 in legal, deposition,
>other expenses, expert witnesses, and court/transcription fees. Appeals
>on top of that.
>Using a lawyer to defend yourself as a victim in a suit can have similar
>expenses. You cannot use public defenders in a civil lawsuit. You may win,
>but lose your home defending. Most people just live in a fantasy world
>about this topic. It is the tactic that the RIAA is using (publicizing the
>few they actually take to a trial) to try to scare copyright abuse.
>I'm not saying anyone should back down, but blowing off in an email
>distribution list is one thing. Blowing off in a court subpoena mandated
>deposition while paying your lawyer $200 per hour is quite another.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David McIntyre" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:15 PM
>Subject: Re: Avos and strategy
>> It doesn't take much of a threat to get someone to stop something. The
>> of a lawsuit alone is enough for most people. Not everyone has the
>> warchest to withstand a legal filing against them.
>> An attorney's retainer and his time to respond to a deluge of filings
>> corporate lawyer can run someone dry very quickly, and the eventual
>> will probably just cover legal fees, if you survive the ordeal up to the
>> of going to court. The system is stacked in favor of corporate bully

Jack (My Website)

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