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Subject: RE: new extension for talkbox directory clip: ".dirname.tbx"
From: Aman Singer (aman_at_asinger.net)
Date: 2004-04-11


Hi, Glenn.
        .dirname.mp3 is the actual file name, as I said before, and doesn't
refer to the directory name. Not sure how you got it working with
        radio shows.mp3
        in the root directory, as even Danan's original Talkbox patch,
released back in the stone age (may, 2003), used .dirname.mp3 files in the
directory for which speech was to be provided,
        
http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/0235.shtml
        Perhaps there was some patch along the road which used directory
names as the names of files
        j:/radio shows would have a file associated with it called radio
shows.mp3, but this isn't the way it is on my recorder. Anyhow, if it's
working for you, would you care to have a look at my currently dead copy of
Openbook <laugh>? Seriously, though, you might want to reinstall the AT&T
voices, making sure that the checkbox for "install SAPI 5 interface" is
checked. AT&T voices do have a SAPI 5 interface, but you have to tell them
when you're installing that you want the thing as SAPI 4 and 5, rather than
just 4. If you manage to install AT&T as SAPI 5, you can then use the script
to generate your files.
        Aman
   

-----Original Message-----
From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se] On
Behalf Of Glenn Ervin at Home
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 9:37 PM
To: Rockbox development
Subject: Re: new extension for talkbox directory clip: ".dirname.tbx"

Hello Aman,
I have AT&T Crystal, but my windows98 only wants to recognize Mary as my
default voice along with Mike.
But all that aside, I had it working fine with the said folders, never using
a strange file called dirname, in fact, I understood "dirname" to mean the
name of the folder you want to be spoken, with the MP3 with the same folder
name speaking the folder name, or whatever.
Like I said, this method used to work for me, and it made sense.
The MP3 of the same name as the folder would reside in the same folder as
the folders I want spoken.
Glenn
----- O
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aman Singer" <aman_at_asinger.net>
To: "'Glenn Ervin at Home'" <GlennErvin_at_cableone.net>; "'Rockbox
development'" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 8:15 PM
Subject: RE: new extension for talkbox directory clip: ".dirname.tbx"

Hi, Glenn.
All right, let me try this again. I'm not sure where you are,
exactly, and I think one of us is confused <g>.
At the moment, this is how it works. Let's say I had three folders
on my Archos. Folder1, folder2, and folder3.
This is what I should do if I want the folders to speak their names
while hovering over them.
I should have a file called
.ddirname.mp3
in folder1. That is, the path to this file should be
j:/folder1/.dirname.mp3
assuming that my Archos is recognised as drive J. This file should
have some voice in it saying "folder 1". I should also turn on speaking of
directories "while hovering" which can be done through the voice menu, under
main menu/general settings. Now, as I hover over folder1, I should hear
"folder 1".
The same thing should happen in folders 2 and 3. I should have a
file called
j:/folder2/.dirname.mp3
which should contain some voice saying "folder 2".
and
j:/folder3/.dirname.mp3
which should contain some voice saying "folder 3".
Again, as I hover over folders 2 and 3, I should hear "folder 2" and
"folder 3".
Let me say again that the folder name should be recorded in the MP3
file, not the actual name of the MP3 file. Whatever the folder name is, the
MP3 clip which announces that folder name should be called .dirname.mp3, and
should be inside the folder to which it belongs, not in the root of the
drive. BTW, I do ask, once again, why you're not using the script Brian
released to do this? Do you have some special voice to use or something? Are
you sure it's not available in SAPI? It's just that this would be allot
easier if the script did it <laugh>.
HTH.
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se] On
Behalf Of Glenn Ervin at Home
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 8:54 PM
To: Rockbox development
Subject: Re: new extension for talkbox directory clip: ".dirname.tbx"

Hi Aman,
This is how it used to work, and perhaps now it is different.
If I have 3 folders in my root:
folder 1
folder 2
folder3
I would have to make 3 MP3 files, one for each folder, and put them in the
root with the folders:
folder1.MP3
folder 2.MP3
folder 3.MP3
and all the folders would be read as I hovered over the folder.
This used to work this way, but since the introduction of putting the dots
in front of the dirnames, it does not work, even after I manage putting some
dots in the right places.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aman Singer" <aman_at_asinger.net>
To: "'Glenn Ervin at Home'" <GlennErvin_at_cableone.net>; "'Rockbox
development'" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 7:40 PM
Subject: RE: new extension for talkbox directory clip: ".dirname.tbx"

Hi, Glenn.
Sorry, but I'm confused. Why would you be writing
ren radio shows.mp3 ".radio shows.mp3"

The file that should contain the name of the directory is
.dirname.mp3, not .directory name.mp3. That is, if I had a folder called
music, I wouldn't put .music.mp3 in the directory, but .dirname.mp3.
Further, if I had a folder called audio books, I'd put .dirname.mp3 into
that directory, too, not .audio books.mp3. May I ask why you have .radio
shows.mp3 in the drive at all?
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se] On
Behalf Of Glenn Ervin at Home
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 7:50 PM
To: Rockbox development
Subject: Re: new extension for talkbox directory clip: ".dirname.tbx"

I did not know about the quotes thing.
So I can now write:
ren radio shows.mp3 ".radio shows.mp3"
I thought I new about all there was to know about DOS.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aman Singer" <aman_at_asinger.net>
To: "'Glenn Ervin at Home'" <GlennErvin_at_cableone.net>; "'Rockbox
development'" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: new extension for talkbox directory clip: ".dirname.tbx"

Hi, Glen.
If I may ask, what trouble are you having with the files? I, too,
use Windows and DOS boxes, but am having no difficulty though I will admit
that my attitude has been "create and forget". Could you give specifics of
what you have trouble doing with them? I never have to rename the files, as
I use Brian's script to get them in the first place. Even when I do have to
rename them (when I made them with Dectalk Access 32), and when they
contained spaces, I used quotes in the ren command and it worked fine.
Again, I'm not saying the period should be kept, just that I'm not sure why
removing it is necessary.
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se] On
Behalf Of Glenn Ervin at Home
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 12:16 PM
To: Glenn Ervin at Home; Rockbox development
Subject: Re: new extension for talkbox directory clip: ".dirname.tbx"

So I guess I did not actually make the request below, I more or less just
offered a statement.
But my question is:
Can we use the TBX extension, but drop the period in front?
Thanks.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Ervin at Home" <GlennErvin_at_cableone.net>
To: "Rockbox development" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: new extension for talkbox directory clip: ".dirname.tbx"

I hate to ask for another change now, but I sure have had trouble renaming
my files with a . in front of them. Especially since I typically have
spaces in my folders & files. I prefer to not use dashes in my names, I
prefer using files like radio shows.tbx, as even in a DOS box, it will have
trouble with files like this with a period in front.
Glenn

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