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Subject: RE: Rockbox Digest, Vol 3, Issue 118
From: A. Alkon (andy_at_paradoxpoetry.com)
Date: 2004-04-28


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Archos talking directory items ([IDC]Dragon)
   2. RE: Archos talking directory items (Aman Singer)
   3. Re: Archos talking directory items (Brian Wolven)
   4. Click when Pressing Next (Brian)
   5. Re: Click when Pressing Next (Brian Wolven)
   6. Re: Stop with remote (Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de)
   7. Talking Directories & Fast Key Presses (Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de)
   8. Re: Stop with remote (Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de)
   9. Re: re-flash (was Re: Video on Archos) (Geedavee)
  10. Car auto-power on (RK)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 19:55:06 +0200 (MEST)
From: "[IDC]Dragon" <idc-dragon_at_gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Archos talking directory items
To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <5941.1083088506_at_www9.gmx.net>
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It worked nicely as j:\ for me.

> One correction to Aman's comments about the mp3clipgen script - it's
not
> going to work (AFAIK) if you specify a drive letter as the input. It
> must be a folder. The script operates recursively, and folders and
> drives are accessed by different methods in vbscript. It *could* be
made
> to use a drive letter, but it won't as presently coded. So J:\music is

> fine, but j:\ is not.

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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:14:58 -0400 From: "Aman Singer" <aman_at_asinger.net> Subject: RE: Archos talking directory items To: "'Rockbox development'" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> Message-ID: <20040427181423.TBRW286963.web02-imail.rogers.com_at_newaman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Hi, Brian. You said One correction to Aman's comments about the mp3clipgen script - it's not going to work (AFAIK) if you specify a drive letter as the input. It must be a folder. The script operates recursively, and folders and drives are accessed by different methods in vbscript. It *could* be made

to use a drive letter, but it won't as presently coded. So J:\music is fine, but j:\ is not.

Hmm. That's odd. I can get it to use j:\

quite easily. It creates a .dirname.tbx file in the root directory as well, but it certainly works for all the other directories, just as if I had entered j:\music Have you tried this on Windows XP? I've only used it on that system, and perhaps it interprets Vbscript differently somehow. Aman

-----Original Message----- From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se] On Behalf Of Brian Wolven Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:19 PM To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se Subject: Re: Archos talking directory items

fanus wrote:

> Hi Aman > You are a little superior to my knowledge. Do you mean that if I have > all the software which speaks the menu items, it is just a matter of > changing the settings you mentioned to get the foldernames announced > like "folder 1 ..." etc. or must I only want folder 1 etc. and not > download other software. In other words, I do not want voice clips, so > will my current software work to set it for folder1 ... Etc. > I hope you follow what I mean. > Thanks > Fanus

If you just want the folders and files to be identified by a number, then you need not create any voice clips. You only need a recent daily build of rockbox and a copy of the voice file for your desired language.

I think that English, French, and German vioce files have been created by people so far. It is possible to create your own voice file if you're

willing to do a little work. Here's the page with links to the already made voice files, BTW:

http://rockbox.haxx.se/lang/

And yes, it does currently show links for deutsch/english/francais.

One correction to Aman's comments about the mp3clipgen script - it's not

going to work (AFAIK) if you specify a drive letter as the input. It must be a folder. The script operates recursively, and folders and drives are accessed by different methods in vbscript. It *could* be made

to use a drive letter, but it won't as presently coded. So J:\music is fine, but j:\ is not.

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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:28:43 -0400 From: Brian Wolven <brian.wolven_at_verizon.net> Subject: Re: Archos talking directory items To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se Message-ID: <c6m8ou$e4t$1_at_sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Aman Singer wrote:

> Hi, Brian. > You said > One correction to Aman's comments about the mp3clipgen script - it's > not > going to work (AFAIK) if you specify a drive letter as the input. It > must be a folder. The script operates recursively, and folders and > drives are accessed by different methods in vbscript. It *could* be made > to use a drive letter, but it won't as presently coded. So J:\music is

> fine, but j:\ is not. > > > Hmm. That's odd. I can get it to use > j:\ > > quite easily. It creates a .dirname.tbx file in the root directory > as well, but it certainly works for all the other directories, just as if I > had entered > j:\music > Have you tried this on Windows XP? I've only used it on that system, > and perhaps it interprets Vbscript differently somehow.

Oops - no - you and Jörg are quite right, that script *does* work fine on drive roots or folders. One of my playlist building scripts does not,

however, and I confused the two. Mea culpa. =)

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Message: 4 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:26:30 -0400 From: "Brian" <GCRockboxer13_at_columbus.rr.com> Subject: Click when Pressing Next To: "Rockbox development" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> Message-ID: <001901c42c95$ed3f3bb0$6600a8c0_at_brianscomp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I know you guys are hard working at everything you do at Rockbox development, but one thing could be improved that stands out to me is the loud click when you press next. Well, it may not be loud on headphones, but when using a car adaptor or plugged into an amplified stereo, it is quite loud. This used to be an issue to me with play and stop before the fade out was released, but the fade eliminated the problem. How do we feel about perhaps a slightly faster fadeout (half or even a fourth of the stop/pause fadeout length) to get rid of the click?

Brian

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Message: 5 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:57:35 -0400 From: Brian Wolven <brian.wolven_at_verizon.net> Subject: Re: Click when Pressing Next To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se Message-ID: <c6mhfv$6sh$1_at_sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Brian wrote:

> I know you guys are hard working at everything you do at Rockbox > development, but one thing could be improved that stands out to me is the > loud click when you press next. Well, it may not be loud on headphones, but > when using a car adaptor or plugged into an amplified stereo, it is quite > loud. This used to be an issue to me with play and stop before the fade out > was released, but the fade eliminated the problem. How do we feel about > perhaps a slightly faster fadeout (half or even a fourth of the stop/pause > fadeout length) to get rid of the click?

Erm, what click? Is this a 'feature' of some models, but not others?

-- The Other Brian

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Message: 6 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:29:52 +0200 (MEST) From: Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de Subject: Re: Stop with remote To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> Message-ID: <23283.1083101392_at_www42.gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi James,

I guess with 2.2 the STOP command via remote is only working in file browse mode, but not while playing a song (try to remote stop playing a song).

I mentioned that bug (remote STOP not working in WPS) and Linus did a fix first published in daily build 23.04.04, means all newer daily builds should contain that bugfix too.

For your reference, here there is a link to the mail archive: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-03/0942.shtml

Greetings,

Matthias

> Thanks. version 2.2 fixed the problem with the stop on the remote. > > > >From: scott <die_pokemon_die123_at_yahoo.com> > >Reply-To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> > >To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> > >Subject: Re: Stop with remote > >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:52:00 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >--- James Currie <currie0522_at_hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I've got one remaining issue with my remote. It wasn't working at all > >and > > > indeed the batteries were dead. I installed new batteries and > >everything is > > > working except the Stop function. I am using a Studio 10 with > version > >2.1 > > > of Rockbox. The player is obviously seeing the stop command because > the > > > backlighting is activating, but it is not responding. The stop button > >on > > > the player does work. Suggestions? > > > >upgrade to 2.2. if that doesn't work, upgrade to a daily build, i seem to > >remember this bug being > >fixed. > > > >-scott > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ > >http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash > >_______________________________________________ > >http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra > Storage! > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362 ave/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox >

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Message: 7 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:45:48 +0200 (MEST) From: Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de Subject: Talking Directories & Fast Key Presses To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se Message-ID: <12154.1083102348_at_www42.gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi,

first of all I would like to point out that this talking dir feature is really great. I'm using my AJB in the car and it was sometimes difficult to read the display when the sun was shining on it. I have the talking dirs now working and it is also a great step ahead in security, because you don't need to take your eyes off the road while cruising aroudn with 180km/h (in Germany hihi ;-)))

I found some behaviour, that could be improved:

I have only the talking directories enabled. I'm browsing around with the keys pretty fast. When a .dirname is played and I'm pressing the +/- keys, the current .dirname is aborted and the next one begins to play. So far so good. Try this with some fast key presses and it sounds a little bit confused.

Maybe it would be a solution to bring in a user configurable delay into the menu, that delays playing of the next .dirname when the previous one was aborted. Means that would create a little pause between them.

I was thinking in user configurable delay, because I suppose that some users don't like it the way I purposed. In this case it would be only a matter of configuration.

Any opinions ?

Greetings

Matthias

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Message: 8 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:46:59 +0200 (MEST) From: Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de Subject: Re: Stop with remote To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> Message-ID: <14691.1083102419_at_www42.gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Uuuuh, I've forgotten one thing. That bug mentioned below, apears only with the AJB Studio's as far as I know.

Greetings

Matthias

> Hi James, > > I guess with 2.2 the STOP command via remote is only working in file > browse > mode, but not while playing a song (try to remote stop playing a song). > > I mentioned that bug (remote STOP not working in WPS) and Linus did a fix > first published in daily build 23.04.04, means all newer daily builds > should > contain that bugfix too. > > For your reference, here there is a link to the mail archive: > http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-03/0942.shtml > > Greetings, > > Matthias > > > Thanks. version 2.2 fixed the problem with the stop on the remote. > > > > > > >From: scott <die_pokemon_die123_at_yahoo.com> > > >Reply-To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> > > >To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> > > >Subject: Re: Stop with remote > > >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:52:00 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > >--- James Currie <currie0522_at_hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > I've got one remaining issue with my remote. It wasn't working at > all > > >and > > > > indeed the batteries were dead. I installed new batteries and > > >everything is > > > > working except the Stop function. I am using a Studio 10 with > > version > > >2.1 > > > > of Rockbox. The player is obviously seeing the stop command because > > the > > > > backlighting is activating, but it is not responding. The stop > button > > >on > > > > the player does work. Suggestions? > > > > > >upgrade to 2.2. if that doesn't work, upgrade to a daily build, i seem > to > > >remember this bug being > > >fixed. > > > > > >-scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ > > >http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash > > >_______________________________________________ > > >http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra > > Storage! > > > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362 ave/direct/01/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sent by: Matthias Klumpp > E-Mail : Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ACHTUNG : Diese E-Mailbox wird nur einmal wöchentlich gelesen ! > ATTENTION: This E-Mail account is read only once a week ! > ATENCAO : Este box e-mail será lido apenas uma vez por semana ! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > NEU : GMX Internet.FreeDSL > Ab sofort DSL-Tarif ohne Grundgebühr: http://www.gmx.net/dsl > > _______________________________________________ > http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox >

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Message: 9 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:51:38 -0700 From: Geedavee <eck_david_at_hotmail.com> Subject: Re: re-flash (was Re: Video on Archos) To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se Message-ID: <c6mrnl$lpl$1_at_sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

It works now. Thank you all for your help.

This video is really cool.

If anyone comes across any more videos ready to play, let me know.

[IDC]Dragon wrote: >>Geedavee wrote: >> >> >>>Do I need to flash it again? I updated with the daily build with the

>>>ajbrec.ajz. I notice when I turn on the player, it still says version >> >>2.1. > > > Yes, flashed boxes don't care about a ajbrec.ajz in the root. Otherwise, the > benefit of flashing would be taken away. To update, play a newer .ucl file, > very easy. > > >>>What file do I use to flash it again? >> >>You should be able to go in the .rockbox directory and 'play' the .ucl

>>file located there, as long as your current build isn't too old. > > > Yes, that's right. > > >>If you >>get messages about 'incompatible versions' or something like that, you

>>may need to go back and re-run the whole flashing procedure again, just >>like the first time you flashed it, but with the newer code. > > > No need to go that drastic, you should rolo (=play) the new ajbrec.ajz to be > consistent with the also updated plugins. This is always possible and the > recommended way. > > But if this gives you a reminder that your boot loader is outdated, you > should do the full flash like the first time. > > Jörg >

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Message: 10 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:31:13 -0500 From: "RK" <randyk_at_wi.rr.com> Subject: Car auto-power on To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> Message-ID: <001301c42cc0$7e74e6f0$0200a8c0_at_windows> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I have the JBR V2, and like a few others noticed that when you shut the power off--it pauses and powers down. However, it does not power on when power is restored.

This is not completely true though, the last few times I've turned on my ignition it did in fact power on and start playing again. Sometimes it does not power on though and I have to do it manually.

Maybe it has something to do with how soon you start your car after turning the ignition on? I have to try it quickly and with a pause. So there is a resume feature in it already, but it doesn't always work.

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