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Subject: RE: Koss Porta pros... WARNING
From: rinty (
Date: 2004-07-04

HI, for portable use, the PX200's again by Senheiser aren't at all


-----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of Zakk Roberts
Sent: 04 July 2004 19:22
To: Rockbox development
Subject: Re: Koss Porta pros... WARNING

The Sennheiser HD212-Pros sound really good..

On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 05:23:04 -0700, Michael T. Kupietz, wearing a
pointy hat <> wrote:
> At 8:09 AM +0100 7/4/04, rinty wrote:
> >Certainly the plastic housing pressing directly onto the wire isn't
> >likely to contribute to the longevity of the headphones.
> I got out the screwdriver and soldering iron and took mine apart
> completely... it wasn't even the wire, the driver had given out
somehow. It
> was funny, the bass kept cutting in and out but the mids & treble
> seem to be affected.
> At 3:25 AM -0400 7/4/04, Fred Maxwell wrote:
> >I know that Koss specs them the same, but how do you know that it
is really
> >the same driver?
> Dunno, just read that in several places... supposedly the KSC-35,
> portapros & sportapros are all the same driver. I think I first saw
it in a
> TiDBiTs article. Google for "tidbits koss" and I'm sure you'll find
> >Regardless of that, they have a lifetime warranty:
> Yeah, actually in my eagerness to try and have a working set of
> before my vacation tomorrow I imagine I voided the warrantee... it
> looks obviously re-soldered, there's screwdriver gouges on the
> etc. When I get back from vacation I'll write them and see if I can
> them to replace it anyway.
> Warrantee or no, this is a pain, though. It took them 4 weeks to
ship my
> first pair.
> On another note, they did have a lovely low end, although overall I
> even really think they sounded *that* good. The bass response is
> exceptional but the sound quality isn't, especially in the mids to
highs -
> vocals and electric guitars come out slightly wimpy and indistinct,
> you EQ the hell out of them. They just have sort of a slick but
> indistinct sound, the definition just isn't there in the mids &
highs. (The
> reason I actually liked the tiny, cheap P4 earbuds is that even
though they
> had much crappier frequency response, the stereo imaging was crisp
> spacious and the sound was detailed.) I suppose for classical music
the 35s
> would be ok, though.
> I guess I'm too demanding, maybe I'm beginning to understand why
> spend hundreds on good phones. Oy, just what I need, another
> hobby.
> mike
> --
> The great thing is, over the internet, nobody knows I'm a dog.
> _______________________________________________

-Zakk (

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