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Subject: Re: Rockbox Digest, Vol 9, Issue 10
From: Peter VG (petesimon_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 2004-10-07


A 2.5' IDE drive to USB adapter cable or enclosure box might help you connect your old drive or replacement 2.5' drive to your computer for formatting/partitioning.
 
The enclosure box:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-155-701&depa=0
 
This adapter cable also works with 3.5' / 5.25' drives.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=12-156-001&depa=0

-peter

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Today's Topics:

1. replacing the HD in a recorder V1 (rinty)
2. Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 (Manuel Dejonghe)
3. Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 (Gary)
4. RE: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 (rinty)
5. RE: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 (rinty)
6. Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 (scott)
7. message for Bjorn (rinty)
8. Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 (Michael Graham)
9. Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 (Menachem Shapiro)
10. Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 (Michael Graham)

> ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822
From: "rinty"
Subject: replacing the HD in a recorder V1
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:24:42 +0100
To: "Rockbox development"

HI all, I want to replace the HD in my recorder v1. Do I buy the same
HD as I did for the recorder V2? also How do I format it as FAT 32
when I've done it?

Someone mentioned that there was a document on the website telling me
how to do it. Anyone got the link?

Thanks very much,

Rob

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> ATTACHMENT part 3.2 message/rfc822 From: Manuel Dejonghe

Subject: Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:41:07 +0200 To: Rockbox development

the documentations page holds some, from which I took the following: http://www.mctubster.com/hd.html

manuel

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:24:42 +0100, rinty wrote: > HI all, I want to replace the HD in my recorder v1. Do I buy the same > HD as I did for the recorder V2? also How do I format it as FAT 32 > when I've done it? > > Someone mentioned that there was a document on the website telling me > how to do it. Anyone got the link? > > Thanks very much, > > Rob > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.773 / Virus Database: 520 - Release Date: 05/10/2004 > > _______________________________________________ > http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox >

> ATTACHMENT part 3.3 message/rfc822 From: Gary Subject: Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 CC: Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 07:58:42 -0500 (GMT-05:00) To: manuel_at_dejonghe.de, Rockbox development

How complicated was the V-2 install? I want to try it.

-----Original Message----- From: Manuel Dejonghe

Sent: Oct 6, 2004 6:41 AM To: Rockbox development Subject: Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1

the documentations page holds some, from which I took the following: http://www.mctubster.com/hd.html

manuel

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:24:42 +0100, rinty wrote: > HI all, I want to replace the HD in my recorder v1. Do I buy the same > HD as I did for the recorder V2? also How do I format it as FAT 32 > when I've done it? > > Someone mentioned that there was a document on the website telling me > how to do it. Anyone got the link? > > Thanks very much, > > Rob > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.773 / Virus Database: 520 - Release Date: 05/10/2004 > > _______________________________________________ > http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox > _______________________________________________ http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox

> ATTACHMENT part 3.4 message/rfc822 From: "rinty" Subject: RE: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 CC: Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:11:45 +0100 To: , "Rockbox development"

Thanks Manuel, the only problem appears to be reformatting the drive. I don't really want 2 partitions. I want the whole drive for music and audio books, and therefore I want the archos to see the whole drive.

Rob

-----Original Message----- From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se]On Behalf Of Manuel Dejonghe Sent: 06 October 2004 12:41 To: Rockbox development Subject: Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1

the documentations page holds some, from which I took the following: http://www.mctubster.com/hd.html

manuel

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:24:42 +0100, rinty wrote: > HI all, I want to replace the HD in my recorder v1. Do I buy the same > HD as I did for the recorder V2? also How do I format it as FAT 32 > when I've done it? > > Someone mentioned that there was a document on the website telling me > how to do it. Anyone got the link? > > Thanks very much, > > Rob > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.773 / Virus Database: 520 - Release Date: 05/10/2004 > > _______________________________________________ > http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox > _______________________________________________ http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox

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> ATTACHMENT part 3.5 message/rfc822 From: "rinty" Subject: RE: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 CC: Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:14:41 +0100 To: "Gary" , "Rockbox development"

Hi Manuel, I can't answer that, I had a friend do it for me.

Rob

-----Original Message----- From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se]On Behalf Of Gary Sent: 06 October 2004 13:59 To: manuel_at_dejonghe.de; Rockbox development Subject: Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1

How complicated was the V-2 install? I want to try it.

-----Original Message----- From: Manuel Dejonghe

Sent: Oct 6, 2004 6:41 AM To: Rockbox development Subject: Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1

the documentations page holds some, from which I took the following: http://www.mctubster.com/hd.html

manuel

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:24:42 +0100, rinty wrote: > HI all, I want to replace the HD in my recorder v1. Do I buy the same > HD as I did for the recorder V2? also How do I format it as FAT 32 > when I've done it? > > Someone mentioned that there was a document on the website telling me > how to do it. Anyone got the link? > > Thanks very much, > > Rob > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.773 / Virus Database: 520 - Release Date: 05/10/2004 > > _______________________________________________ > http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox > _______________________________________________ http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox

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> ATTACHMENT part 3.6 message/rfc822 From: scott Subject: Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 CC: Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:41:18 -0700 (PDT) To: Gary , Rockbox development

--- Gary wrote:

> How complicated was the V-2 install? I want to try it.

I did it after taking an intro to electronics class and it seemed pretty simple to me, but YMMV.

-scott

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> ATTACHMENT part 3.7 message/rfc822 From: "rinty" Subject: message for Bjorn Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:56:36 +0100 To: "Rockbox development"

HI could Bjorn send me an email, my copy of Microsoft's finest won't let me "see" people's email addresses. I've an idea that I want to run past you before I put it on the list.

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> ATTACHMENT part 3.8 message/rfc822 From: Michael Graham Subject: Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 15:43:58 -0400 To: Rockbox development

> HI all, I want to replace the HD in my recorder v1. Do I buy the same > HD as I did for the recorder V2? also How do I format it as FAT 32 > when I've done it?

I used the Toshiba MK8025GAS (80GB, 4200 RPM). I followed the instructions here:

http://www.mctubster.com/hd.html

Before I put the new HD into the Jukebox, I attached it to my computer directly via a 2.5" to 3.5" IDE interface adapter. These adapters always frighten me because they include power on the connector and if you put them in backwards you can release the magic smoke from your drive.

But it worked for me. While it was attached to the computer via IDE, I used Partition Magic to add a partition and format it as FAT32. I then copied all my data to the drive (quicker than USB2).

Getting the old drive out of the recorder and the new drive in was not too bad. The most important advice I can give is to be patient throughout the process - take your time and don't force anything. Also, some of the metal edges are quite sharp. At one point I cut my finger without even noticing it.

I also couldn't find "the hole you're not supposed to cover" on this particular drive. I hope I didn't end up covering it.

When I put the whole thing together, the Archos wouldn't boot, because I had made my 80GB partition into a logical partition, instead of a single primary partition. However, Partition Magic was able to convert the logical partition into a primary partition. It did this over USB and without losing any data. Pretty cool.

After that, I had some problems with Rockbox. I had more than 400 directories in the root of my drive, and Rockbox didn't like this. When I went into its settings, I found it was defaulting to a maximum of 0 files per directory, and when I changed this value, it didn't seem to stick. But I reorganized my file hierarchy, reinstalled Rockbox, changed the max files to 1000, and everything seems to work fine now.

Michael

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> ATTACHMENT part 3.9 message/rfc822 From: Menachem Shapiro Subject: Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:36:18 -0700 To: Rockbox development

B"H

Did you have to desolder in order to get to the hard drive for the Version 1 Recorder like you have to for the Recorder Version 2? Are the guts of the Recorder V1 the same as the guts for the Jukebox Studio (not including the actual circuitry, of course)?

Menachem

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 15:43:58 -0400, Michael Graham wrote: > > > HI all, I want to replace the HD in my recorder v1. Do I buy the same > > HD as I did for the recorder V2? also How do I format it as FAT 32 > > when I've done it? > > I used the Toshiba MK8025GAS (80GB, 4200 RPM). I followed the > instructions here: > > http://www.mctubster.com/hd.html > > Before I put the new HD into the Jukebox, I attached it to my computer > directly via a 2.5" to 3.5" IDE interface adapter. These adapters > always frighten me because they include power on the connector and if > you put them in backwards you can release the magic smoke from your > drive. > > But it worked for me. While it was attached to the computer via IDE, I > used Partition Magic to add a partition and format it as FAT32. I then > copied all my data to the drive (quicker than USB2). > > Getting the old drive out of the recorder and the new drive in was not > too bad. The most important advice I can give is to be patient > throughout the process - take your time and don't force anything. Also, > some of the metal edges are quite sharp. At one point I cut my finger > without even noticing it. > > I also couldn't find "the hole you're not supposed to cover" on this > particular drive. I hope I didn't end up covering it. > > When I put the whole thing together, the Archos wouldn't boot, because I > had made my 80GB partition into a logical partition, instead of a > single primary partition. However, Partition Magic was able to convert > the logical partition into a primary partition. It did this over USB > and without losing any data. Pretty cool. > > After that, I had some problems with Rockbox. I had more than 400 > directories in the root of my drive, and Rockbox didn't like this. When > I went into its settings, I found it was defaulting to a maximum of 0 > files per directory, and when I changed this value, it didn't seem to > stick. But I reorganized my file hierarchy, reinstalled Rockbox, > changed the max files to 1000, and everything seems to work fine now. > > Michael > > -- > Michael Graham > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox >

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> ATTACHMENT part 3.10 message/rfc822 From: Michael Graham Subject: Re: replacing the HD in a recorder V1 CC: Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:11:41 -0400 To: Menachem Shapiro , Rockbox development

> Did you have to desolder in order to get to the hard drive for the > Version 1 Recorder like you have to for the Recorder Version 2? Are > the guts of the Recorder V1 the same as the guts for the Jukebox > Studio (not including the actual circuitry, of course)?

No, there was no soldering or desoldering involved, thank goodness!

It looked pretty similar to the pictures I've seen of Studio internals. The only difference was that the buttons are made up of about five or six loose pieces of plastic which you have to set in their correct places when you put the cover back on.

Michael

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