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Subject: What player should I buy?

What player should I buy?

From: randy knapp <rlknapp_at_sbcglobal.net>
Date: 2005-05-14

I am new to this list and am seeking some advice regarding what player to
buy. It seems that the players listed on the web site are discontinued or
are being discontinued. What current players from Archos, Iriver, or
another manufacturer can run the rock box software? Thanks in advance for
your help.

Randy L. Knapp

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Ondio Player (Rocker)
   2. Re: Ondio Player (Chris Hurley)
   3. Re: Archos question (mat)
   4. Re: Archos question (Cathy De Viney)
   5. Re: Ondio Player (cb)
   6. Re: Ondio Player ([IDC]Dragon)
   7. Re: Ondio Player (Talksina)
   8. Re: Ondio Player (Chris Hurley)
   9. Re: Ondio Player (Rocker)
  10. how to get out batteries (basslover)
  11. Re: Ondio Player (Rocker)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:02:21 -0600
From: Rocker <rocker@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Ondio Player
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
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Go for it if it is a good price. That's in Euros right?

Maybe you could ship it to me here in Canada? Lol...rocker

----- Original Message -----
From: "Talksina" <talksina@gmail.com>
To: "Rockbox development" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Ondio Player

>I found one in an italian store, something like kelkoo.it but the problem
>for you is the language, there is not the English version of the site I'm
>afraid. The ondio FM recorder was 62,39?
> This difficulty you have to find it, means it's not available in "normal"
> stores, right?
> I did not look for it before, I just found this yesterday and was
> considering to buy it because it's quite cheap for me.
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:05:08 -0400
From: Chris Hurley <chrish-rockbox@ax84.com>
Subject: Re: Ondio Player
To: rockbox@cool.haxx.se
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Rocker wrote:
> Hi Jourg,
>
> I've seen one EBay seller who advertises used & sometimes new Iriver's
> where he states that "this player is rockbox ready".
>
> He seems to always get top dollar for his players. Charges $40 US for
> shipping as well. I guess that's the pit falls of open source eh?

On the other hand, nothing is stopping the devs from doing this either.
  I wonder if someone mentioning "I am one of the developers of the
excellent Rockbox firmware" in their auction would raise the price?

With open source, you should never release anything that you'd be upset
if someone else sells. Regardless of what the license says, if you make
the source available, someone, somewhere, will make a buck off of it-
whether they tell you to your face or not.

I learned this lesson with an arcade emulator for the Palm that I wrote.
  A software publisher contacted me about making changes to it. They
pretty much told me that they could just hire someone else to make the
changes to it, but they wanted to "give me a shot". They of course
didn't want to pay anything to have it done, so nothing got done. Oh
well. Open source is great, but if you're worried about someone making
money with it, you'd better just plan to be ahead of them.

my opinions, of course.

-Chris

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:17:27 +0100
From: mat <matholton@landofconfusion.com>
Subject: Re: Archos question
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
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I mean, can i run a power lead into it as an alternative to using the
batteries?

Dawid Ferenczy wrote:

>Mat Holton napsal(a):
>
>
>>..and can you power them from the mains supply?
>>
>>
>
>Yes for all your questions ;) (but I'm not sure, I understood what do
>you mean with "can you power them from the mains supply?")
>
>
>

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:49:59 -0500
From: "Cathy De Viney" <ccdeviney@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Archos question
To: "Rockbox development" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <004d01c557ec$90aaacd0$6401a8c0@cathy>
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Get a memory based player...not a hard drive based player for the gym. You
will want something small...not the Archos Jukebox.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Smith.Ryan" <Ryan.Smith@SunTrust.com>
To: <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 8:48 AM
Subject: Archos question

> Hello,
>
> I am contemplating a bid on an Archos JBR FM or Studio player, but have
> some questions. My brother-in-law advised me that since these players
> use hard drives that they could be easily damaged if dropped. He also
> mentioned that jarring the player could be harmful as well, so it would
> not be a good player to use at the gym. Another downside he said, is
> that you have to go through the menu to adjust the volume. Is that
> correct? All I am wanting the player for is so that I can listen at the
> gym. Could someone advise me if the things he warned me against are
> valid?
>
> Ryan Smith
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 20:07:17 +0100
From: "cb" <c-l-b@usa.net>
Subject: Re: Ondio Player
To: "Rockbox development" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5773866883
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5772561666
----- Original Message -----
From: "Smith.Ryan" <Ryan.Smith@SunTrust.com>
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.systems.archos.rockbox.general
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 4:33 PM
Subject: Ondio Player

> What do you know? I've asked all these questions and gotten all of this
> help and can't find an Ondio anywhere, not even on Ebay. Any
> suggestions? Does anyone recommend another player instead?
>
>
> Ryan Smith
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 21:27:36 +0200 (MEST)
From: "[IDC]Dragon" <idc-dragon@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Ondio Player
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
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> On the other hand, nothing is stopping the devs from doing this either.
> I wonder if someone mentioning "I am one of the developers of the
> excellent Rockbox firmware" in their auction would raise the price?

One day I will. I got about 20 Studio and a few Recorder "barebones" from
Ebay, waiting to be refurbished with harddisk, batteries and wall-wart. Any
takers? Only my limited time stops me from selling wholesale.

> With open source, you should never release anything that you'd be upset
> if someone else sells. Regardless of what the license says, if you make
> the source available, someone, somewhere, will make a buck off of it-
> whether they tell you to your face or not.

I'm not upset. Actually, rather pleased to see an impact of my doing.

Jvrg

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:37:36 +0200
From: Talksina <talksina@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ondio Player
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
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At 19.02 13/05/2005, you wrote:
>Go for it if it is a good price.  That's in Euros right?
...sorry it was an Archos ondio 128 SP  and not FM recorder, so I am not
interested in that.
the price was in euro,yes.
>Maybe you could ship it to me here in Canada?  Lol...rocker
LOL! :)
If you don't mind, open your room's window I'll throw the player and let's
see if it arrives straight into your room (super-LOL!)
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 15:48:10 -0400
From: Chris Hurley <chrish-rockbox@ax84.com>
Subject: Re: Ondio Player
To: rockbox@cool.haxx.se
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[IDC]Dragon wrote:
> One day I will. I got about 20 Studio and a few Recorder "barebones" from
> Ebay, waiting to be refurbished with harddisk, batteries and wall-wart.
Any
> takers? Only my limited time stops me from selling wholesale.
>
You could always have an agent sell them for you...
I wish someone would sell 8MB boards, or even whole units.  I'd love to
get the extra battery life, although my new batteries doubled what I was
getting before.
> I'm not upset. Actually, rather pleased to see an impact of my doing.
That's the spirit.  :)
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 15:14:50 -0600
From: Rocker <rocker@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Ondio Player
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
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Very nice if you live in the UK...rocker
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From: "cb" <c-l-b@usa.net>
To: "Rockbox development" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Ondio Player
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5773866883
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5772561666
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Smith.Ryan" <Ryan.Smith@SunTrust.com>
> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.systems.archos.rockbox.general
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 4:33 PM
> Subject: Ondio Player
>
>
>> What do you know?  I've asked all these questions and gotten all of this
>> help and can't find an Ondio anywhere, not even on Ebay.  Any
>> suggestions?  Does anyone recommend another player instead?
>>
>>
>> Ryan Smith
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:15:53 -0700
From: "basslover" <basslover@adelphia.net>
Subject: how to get out batteries
To: "Rockbox development" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <000e01c55800$f2457650$0ddcac45@D790L811>
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I have the Recorder 20.
I know how to take off the side rounded piece to expose the batteries.
Once I've done that, do I have to remove one of the rubber bumpers, or what
do I do to allow the batteries to be taken out?
With just the rounded piece taken off, if I try to take out the batteries by
pulling from the center where they touch, it seems like I'd have to
dangerously force them out.
Thanks!!
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 15:16:22 -0600
From: Rocker <rocker@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Ondio Player
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
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Chortle, Chortle, Chortle!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Talksina" <talksina@gmail.com>
To: "Rockbox development" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Ondio Player
> At 19.02 13/05/2005, you wrote:
>>Go for it if it is a good price.  That's in Euros right?
>
> ...sorry it was an Archos ondio 128 SP  and not FM recorder, so I am not
> interested in that.
> the price was in euro,yes.
>
>>Maybe you could ship it to me here in Canada?  Lol...rocker
> LOL! :)
> If you don't mind, open your room's window I'll throw the player and let's
> see if it arrives straight into your room (super-LOL!)
>
>
>
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